Zen Archery [Archive] - Wizards Community

Zen Archery [Archive] - Wizards Community

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CheeseMan
06-12-07, 03:22 PM i recently bought Complete Warrior, which has the Zen Archery feat in it. seems to me that it'd be a great feat for paladins that like ranged combat, or rangers that really like to put their spellcasting to use, or a somewhat useful feat for clerics/druids that like ranged weapons.

anyway, i was just wondering if anyone who's used this feat knows of any issues with it or any creative ways to really make it extremely worthwhile to take
MareltEkiran
06-12-07, 03:32 PM As far as I know, there aren't many issues with it. It has indeed the primary uses that you just listed.

As for other things to do with your WIS, check out this thread. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=320889)
InkBlot
06-12-07, 08:19 PM Well, there's the Soulbow prestige class. They create arrows with their minds, and add their Wis bonus to damage. So a Soulbow greatly benefits from Zen Archery.

There's also the Crystal Archer concept, which uses the Psychic Warrior class and the crystal shard psychic power (which creates a shard of crystalized thought and launches it). Psychic Warriors are a gish-class that has wisdom-based psychic powers and lots of bonus feats. There's also a [psionic] feat that lets you add your manifester stat to ranged-touch-attack powers. So it all comes together pretty well.
Koretsu
06-13-07, 01:07 AM Any divine spell caster with Zen Archery has the added advantage of using thier Wisdom over thier Dex for Ranged Touch Attack and Ray spells.
Grogmir
06-13-07, 04:32 AM I think its best (apart from the exotic classes mentioned) for a cleric. A druid and ranger needs Dex for AC due to light armour. But a Cleric can walk around in Full Plate - dump dex and still make a great archer.

my 4p.
Steely_Dan
06-13-07, 05:25 AM I think its best (apart from the exotic classes mentioned) for a cleric. A druid and ranger needs Dex for AC due to light armour. But a Cleric can walk around in Full Plate - dump dex and still make a great archer.

Yeah, especially an elven (automatically proficient in the longbow) cleric.
claypigeons
06-13-07, 05:28 AM I think its best (apart from the exotic classes mentioned) for a cleric. A druid and ranger needs Dex for AC due to light armour. But a Cleric can walk around in Full Plate - dump dex and still make a great archer.

Not so much, considering you still need a high dex for all the archery related feats (rapid shot, many shot, etc.), unless you have a DM that lets you remap all those feats to WIS if you've already got Zen Archery...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CheeseMan 06-12-07, 03:22 PM	i recently bought Complete Warrior, which has the Zen Archery feat in it. seems to me that it'd be a great feat for paladins that like ranged combat, or rangers that really like to put their spellcasting to use, or a somewhat useful feat for clerics/druids that like ranged weapons. anyway, i was just wondering if anyone who's used this feat knows of any issues with it or any creative ways to really make it extremely worthwhile to take
MareltEkiran 06-12-07, 03:32 PM	As far as I know, there aren't many issues with it. It has indeed the primary uses that you just listed. As for other things to do with your WIS, check out this thread. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=320889)
InkBlot 06-12-07, 08:19 PM	Well, there's the Soulbow prestige class. They create arrows with their minds, and add their Wis bonus to damage. So a Soulbow greatly benefits from Zen Archery. There's also the Crystal Archer concept, which uses the Psychic Warrior class and the crystal shard psychic power (which creates a shard of crystalized thought and launches it). Psychic Warriors are a gish-class that has wisdom-based psychic powers and lots of bonus feats. There's also a [psionic] feat that lets you add your manifester stat to ranged-touch-attack powers. So it all comes together pretty well.
Koretsu 06-13-07, 01:07 AM	Any divine spell caster with Zen Archery has the added advantage of using thier Wisdom over thier Dex for Ranged Touch Attack and Ray spells.
Grogmir 06-13-07, 04:32 AM	I think its best (apart from the exotic classes mentioned) for a cleric. A druid and ranger needs Dex for AC due to light armour. But a Cleric can walk around in Full Plate - dump dex and still make a great archer. my 4p.
Steely_Dan 06-13-07, 05:25 AM	I think its best (apart from the exotic classes mentioned) for a cleric. A druid and ranger needs Dex for AC due to light armour. But a Cleric can walk around in Full Plate - dump dex and still make a great archer. Yeah, especially an elven (automatically proficient in the longbow) cleric.
claypigeons 06-13-07, 05:28 AM	I think its best (apart from the exotic classes mentioned) for a cleric. A druid and ranger needs Dex for AC due to light armour. But a Cleric can walk around in Full Plate - dump dex and still make a great archer. Not so much, considering you still need a high dex for all the archery related feats (rapid shot, many shot, etc.), unless you have a DM that lets you remap all those feats to WIS if you've already got Zen Archery...