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[UDW]Drizzt Do'Urden

03-07-05, 06:47 PM
Welcome patrons of the bow! This is the Archers Guild stationed in Baldurs Gate! (I know in truth there isn't one so bear with me and have some fun.)
Basically this guild is all archery and ranged fighting, i.e. magics, arcane archers, and the like. Be warned that there are rules to this guild! Disobey and you will have the watch on you.
1. Refrain from being cruel to your fellow guildmates. No harmful things said here.
2. There is no stupid question so ask away!
3. Out of personal preference please refrain from using any bad language.

Oh and any one who knew me from previous forums I am none other than Battlehammer114!! Praise Moradin and Mielekki that I am back! :P
Dyne

03-09-05, 12:13 AM
*Draws a longbow, aiming for [UDW]Drizzt Do'Urden's smilie*
*FIRES*
*MISSES*
*Remembers that he is a terribly bad shot*
Oh, darn.

I'll join. Count me in. Out of curiousity, would you be interested in join/allying with the Purple Dragons of Cormyr? I'm considering bringing that guild back.
Tenzhi

03-09-05, 12:49 AM
The Elf-Bane likes archers (not elf archers, of course (except for dinner)).

I've actually been trying to find a base archer class that I like. So far, I like the Scout in that regard, though it isn't entirely archery-focussed. IMO, the Ranger should've been more archery-focussed (yes, I realise they made an effort to include it in 3.5 but I want more than that).
Dyne

03-09-05, 12:53 AM
Everything should be more archery-focused in D&D. As I understand it, most soldiers in the middle ages died of arrows. Yet do you know what the weapons of choice for adventurers are? Swords and axes. Not even any polearms, always swords and axes (unless you're a spellcaster, in which case it's a stick (quarterstaff)).
Tenzhi

03-09-05, 01:00 AM
Adventurers stereotypically spend a great deal of time fighting in underground or otherwise closed-in complexes, so it is kind of understandable that the bow and polearms aren't particularly common weapons among them.

If the crossbow didn't suck so much, I would expect to see it used more often among them (I'd like to use one myself - an armoured dwarven crossbow-man would be awesome).
[UDW]Drizzt Do'Urden

03-10-05, 06:23 PM
Outta curiousity do any of ya know what UDW means? Just a question. Anyway welcome to the baldurs gate archers guild! Oh and elf bane im a drow so ya might not wanna say that... :mad:
Dyne

03-10-05, 09:38 PM
What does UDW stand for?
Tenzhi

03-10-05, 11:29 PM
Drizzt Do'Urden"]Outta curiousity do any of ya know what UDW means? Just a question. Anyway welcome to the baldurs gate archers guild! Oh and elf bane im a drow so ya might not wanna say that... :mad:

UnderDark Wimp? ;)

I didn't get to be the Elf-Bane by fearing drow, yanno. ;)

As always, I feel compelled to point out that I won't actually join your guild, though I may feel compelled to contribute at random. Merge the Everfull Quiver with a Heavy Repeating Crossbow so you have a Heavy Repeating Crossbow that you never have to reload...

I'd like to create an archer class at somepoint, but it's a daunting task that many have tried. In the meantime I have a PrC I'm working on that unfortunately doesn't have anything to do with archery. I'm trying to decide where I'll eventually post it.
premier666

03-11-05, 07:08 PM
An arrow lands right next to elf bane. The High elf who fired it is holding an glowing bow and smiles sarcasticaly. _are you sure you're an elf bane? you look more like an orc loser...
Anyway, I 'd like to join your guild, just to show the almight power of the arcane archer to you underdark crossbow lovers. :cool:
Dyne

03-11-05, 10:41 PM
Orcs can kick butt. Especially Orc Warlords with swarms of brutal followers. I'm a fan of Elves, too.
Tenzhi

03-12-05, 01:48 AM
The old man picks the arrow up thoughtfully, then pushes it into his forehead, twisting it slowly until it comes poking out through the back of his skull. He then grabs the point and pulls it the rest of the way through his head. Impaled on the arrow are three elvish souls writhing in torment.

Smiling wistfully, he holds out his other hand and a silver flame springs forth. He begins roasting the three elvish souls over the open flame with a small sigh, there thin wails forming a sad yet eerily beautiful song.

"Why yes," he says with almost a hint of sadness, "I am quite sure I am the Elf-Bane."
Orcy The Green Wonder

03-12-05, 01:58 AM
An arrow lands right next to elf bane. The High elf who fired it is holding an glowing bow and smiles sarcasticaly. _are you sure you're an elf bane? you look more like an orc loser...
Anyway, I 'd like to join your guild, just to show the almight power of the arcane archer to you underdark crossbow lovers. :cool:

Orc loser? Does Orcy need to get the club?
Dyne

03-12-05, 03:20 AM
Don't be angry, Orcy. It's not his fault that he has terrible eyesight.

...Wait, I thought you were supposed to be an Elf....
turalisj

03-12-05, 05:41 PM
The Elf-Bane likes archers (not elf archers, of course (except for dinner)).

I've actually been trying to find a base archer class that I like. So far, I like the Scout in that regard, though it isn't entirely archery-focussed. IMO, the Ranger should've been more archery-focussed (yes, I realise they made an effort to include it in 3.5 but I want more than that).
mybe a prc that requires weapon spec. longbow, weapon focus longbow, point-blank shot, rapid shot, and such? that would mean of course the person taking the prc would need to be a fighter.
turalisj

03-12-05, 05:44 PM
An arrow lands right next to elf bane. The High elf who fired it is holding an glowing bow and smiles sarcasticaly. _are you sure you're an elf bane? you look more like an orc loser...
Anyway, I 'd like to join your guild, just to show the almight power of the arcane archer to you underdark crossbow lovers. :cool:
i wouldn't have done that, both orcy and tenzhi will be after you now. have fun getting your soul rosted over an open flame. :D
Dyne

03-12-05, 07:06 PM
mybe a prc that requires weapon spec. longbow, weapon focus longbow, point-blank shot, rapid shot, and such? that would mean of course the person taking the prc would need to be a fighter.

Some of the best archers don't have levels in Fighter (like Rangers), so I would leave out Weapon Specialization.

Also, there is a PrC called the Cragtop Archer from Races of Stone, I believe. It's on the Wizards site somewhere, I'll see if I can pull it up.

Cragtop Archer (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040815b&page=1)
Tenzhi

03-12-05, 08:09 PM
Cleric and Rogue are both interesting branch classes for an archer PrC, I think.
Sssargoth

03-13-05, 08:52 PM
The Bowman Charger
By Thomas M. Costa
Dragon magazine issue 325

Many nations and many armies make the claim to have the finest cavalry or the most splended horsemen. None, however, are born and raised in the saddle like the great nomadic cultures of the steppes. From a young age, childre learn to ride and shoot, and many recieve bows and arrows as gifts. By the time children become adults, they are skilled riders and excellent marksmen.

As adults, these warriors fight almost entirely on horseback, making extensive use of their riding tradition to attack their enemies from a distance. When their foes rush into battle, the nomadic warriors retreat, avoiding melee to shoot their enemies from a safe distance. Some consider them cowards, but this strategy minimizes their losses in a battle. The wandering tribes lead a harsh life, and consiquently many place a low valu on the lives of those outside their culture.

These mighty warriors live in vast, open steppes where a nomadic lifestyle is both common and necessary. Examples of such people include the Mongols under the great khans, the Valenar elves of Eberron, the Rovers of the Barrens and the Plains of Paynim's numerous tribes in Greyhawk, and the Tuigan hordes of the Forgotten Realms. Not all members of these horse-riding steppe dwellers become bowman chargers, but those who do rise to great esteem among their clans and tribes.

Bowman chargers wear the best light armor they can acquire. They almost exclusively use the composite shortbow, scimitar, and spear, although a few occasionally make use of other weapons. Depending on their particular culture, needs, or beliefs, some bowmen chargers make use of falchions or kukris.

Fighters have the easiest time becoming bowman chargers, and indeed nearly every bowman charger has multiple fighter levels, but the majority of bowman chargers have at least one level of another class. Most who multiclass take levels in barbarian or ranger, although a fair number of fighter/paladins join the ranks of bowman chargers. Other classes gain little or no benefit from the class and most find its requirements difficult to meet.

HD: d10
Requirements: To qualify to become a bowman charger, a charicter must fulfil the following criteria.
BAB: +6
Skills: Handle Animal 8 ranks, Ride 8 ranks
Feats: Mounted Archery, Mounted Combat, Ride-by Attack, Weapon Focus (composite shortbow)

Class Skills: The bowman charger's class skills (and the key ability for each) are Craft (Int), Handle Animal (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Ride (Dex), Spot (Wis), and Survival (Wis).
Skill points at each level: 2 + Int modifier

Class Features
All of the following are class fetures of the bowman charger prestige class.
Weapon and armor profiency: Bowman chargers are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, and with light and medium armor and bucklers.
Burst of Speed (Ex): The bowma charger can urge her mount to greater than normal speeds. This ability doubles the distance of the mounts normal charge movement (the mount must charge to use this ability). The bowman charger can use this ability once per day without without risk of injury to her mount. She can try to use this ability more than once per day by "pushing" her mount as per the Handal Animal skill (see the Players Handbook, page 74). If the bowman charger succeds at her skill check, the mount makes an additional charge using burst of speed, but it must then make a DC 20 Fortitude save after the conclusion of the charge. If it succeds, the mount becomes fatigued; if it fails, it becomes fatigued and takes 2d6 points of damage.
Two as One (Ex): At 1st level, the bowman charger can attune herself to her mount by spending two weeks alone with it. She can bring no food or water for herself or her mount, and instead they both must eat and drink where and when they can. During these two weeks, the bowman charger must learn to eat and sleep in the saddle. At the end of those two weeks, she and the mount become attuned. The bowman charger gains a bonus on all future Handle Animal checks made to influence the attuned mount equal to her bowman charger level.
The attuned mount and bowman charger gain specific benefits, depending on the charicter's level in bowman charger, as shown on the table below. The only gains these benefits when rideing her attuned mount, and her mount only gains these benefits when its attune bowman charger rides it. A bowman charger can't be attuned to multiple mounts at the same time, but should a mount die or should the bowman charger wish to attune to a new mount, she must spend two weeks with it as previously described.

Bowman Charger Level Special Ability
2nd Riding Mastery
4th Speed of trust
6th Elusive
8th Riding Dervish
10th Horse sense

Riding Mastery (Ex): The bowman charger gains a bonus on her ride checks equal to her bowman charger level.
Speed of Trust (Ex): The bowman charger gains a bonus on her initiative checks equal to half her bowman charger level when she begins combat on her attuned mount. In addition, her mount gains the use of the Dodge feat as long as the bowman charger is riding it. Her mount can choose to dodge a different foe than the bowman charger.
Elusive (Ex): Once per round, when her mount is affected by an effect that allows a Reflex save, the bowman charger may make a Reflex save (using her bonus) instead. The result of her save becomes the result of her mount's save. The bowman charger must declare that she is going to use this ability before she makes the roll.
Riding Dervish (Ex): The bowman charger may utilize Ride-by Attack to make a powerful assult through the ranks of her foes. While riding in a straight line and using a full-round action, the bowman charger can move up to her mounts speed, making a melee attack against any foe within reach on her path. For each foe attacked beyond the first, each attack suffers a -1 penalty, so the bowman charger must declair how many foes she attacks before she starts (minimum two). The bowman charger gives up her regular attacks to take this action. This is an extraordinary ability that draws no attacks of opportunity, even if the bowman charger passes through threatened areas on her way through the assult.
In addition, her mount gains the use of the Mobility feat as long as she is riding it.
Horse Sense (Su): Once per round, when her mount is affected by an effect that allows a Will save, the bowman charger may make a Will save (using her bonus) instead. The result of her save becomes the result of her mount's save. The bowman charger must declare that she is going to use this ability before she makes the roll.
Improved Mounted Archery (Ex): At 3rd level, a bowman charger suffers no pealty when using a ranged weapon from horseback while her mount is making a double move, and a -2 penalty while her mount is running.
Weapon Specialization (Ex): At 5th level, the bowman charger gains Weapon Specialization (composite shortbow) as a bonus feat.
Improved Critical (Ex): At 7th level, the bowman charger gains Improved Critical (composite shortbow) as a bonus feat.
Greater Weapon Specialization (Ex): At 9th level, the bowman charger gets Greater Weapon Specialization (composite shortbow) as a bonus feat.
Great Khan (Ex): At 10th level, a bowman charger evinces confidence. She gains Leadership as a bonus feat, and gains a +2 bonus on her leadership score.
On the battle field, all cohorts, followers, and allies within 60 feet of a bowman charger gain a +1 morale bonus on their attack rolls while mounted.

Different Bowman Chargers
Halfling Warhound Corps: Riding armored dogs into battle, the Halfling Warhound Corps accepts only the most experienced halfling riders. Those who manage to join the prestigious fighting force enter a rigorous training program that focuses ot only upon riding and archery, but also upon taking up the pack mentality that allows the Halfling Warhound Corps to function almost entirely by instinct as a unit on the battlefield.
Goblin Wolflords: Feared throughout the lands that border the misty forests they claim as home, these goblins are known for their unusual tactic of dismounting and firing their bows from behind the cover of their prone mounts. When a foe comes too close, a goblin's wolf knows to stand and trip the foe, allowing the goblin to attack their prone enemy with a melee weapon.
Elven Windriders: The Elven Windriders divide their members into two forces: the pegasi riders who patrol elven lands during the day and the giat-owl-rideing night patrol. Although people more often see the pegasi riders, the mysterious night patrol is the most famous of the two. Accustomed to quietly flying through the close confines of the forest, members of the night patrol even venture into caves and dungeons when threats arise from such places.

Bowman Charger Advancement

Level BaB Fort Ref Will Special
1st +1 +0 +2 +0 Burst of Speed, Two as One
2nd +2 +0 +3 +0 Two as One (Riding Mastery)
3rd +3 +1 +3 +1 Improved mounted archery
4th +4 +1 +4 +1 Two as One (Speed of trust)
5th +5 +1 +4 +1 Weapon specialization(composite shortbow)
6th +6 +2 +5 +2 Two as one (elusive)
7th +7 +2 +5 +2 Improved critical (composite shortbow)
8th +8 +2 +6 +2 Two as one (Riding Dervish)
9th +9 +3 +6 +3 Greater Weapon Specialization (composite shortbow)
10th +10 +3 +7 +3 Two as one (Horse sense), Great Khan
premier666

03-14-05, 08:47 AM
Ha! I'm not afraid of some orc! If you trie to hit me, I' just cast teleport and run away like I've always done :D ! (not before I shoot an arrow in your B...)
Now, thats a good trick with the arrow in your haed! I can do it too!
He get an arrow and pulls in his had. (you all see its ilusionary tough)

Now down to business, thats a great Prc you got there. Its also unique, as far as I know.
[UDW]Drizzt Do'Urden

03-19-05, 05:56 PM
UnderDark Wimps?!?!?!?! I shalt skewer you and turn you into a bloody pincushion for that remark sah! More like UnderDarkWarriors! In any case it's not that I'm a drow or hight elf and the fact the so-called 'Elf-Bane' is a load o' hooey therefore FEAR THE ALMIGHTY POWER OF THE DROW! BOW BEFORE ahahahahahah!!!! Just to instill reasonable doubt..... LoL! :w00t: :evillaugh :heehee :fight!:
turalisj

03-19-05, 06:15 PM
Drizzt Do'Urden"]UnderDark Wimps?!?!?!?! I shalt skewer you and turn you into a bloody pincushion for that remark sah! More like UnderDarkWarriors! In any case it's not that I'm a drow or hight elf and the fact the so-called 'Elf-Bane' is a load o' hooey therefore FEAR THE ALMIGHTY POWER OF THE DROW! BOW BEFORE ahahahahahah!!!! Just to instill reasonable doubt..... LoL! :w00t: :evillaugh :heehee :fight!:
shut up you weak, deprived, and beaten image of a drow!
*summons millions of arcane archers*
*watches as they skewer drizzt with arrows*
oh, and hope you have fun when golos comes here, he likes to eat drow (he was raised near a drow trade route, and that was the most avialible food source)
Tenzhi

03-19-05, 11:53 PM
Another hero-clone with delusions of grandeur. I haven't had such a lack of fear since I faced down Batman1069 and SSJ-Sephiroth. ;)

Say - has anyone seen a repeating crossbow that produces its own ammo? I know there was a quiver that did it for regular bows. Just combine that concept with a heavy repeating crossbow and it becomes a decent weapon.
[UDW]Drizzt Do'Urden

03-29-05, 09:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA...... wow that was so funny i forgot to **** my self!

COMEDY RELIEF!! THAT WAS ALL IT WAS oh and it was high elf not hight elf. i goofed that one. FEAR THE DROW FOOLISH SHORT LIVED HUMANS!! FEAR ME AHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! :evillaugh :bow:
[UDW]Drizzt Do'Urden

04-18-05, 07:42 AM
Im not sure wether or not its a good thing that comedy relief is a good thing. Still it comes in handy. Nice idea with the bowman charger. I like the design. Thank you all for coming into this guild. Hey tenzhi you should make that a special weapon in your campaigns.