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Rurik "The Silent" 03-06-05, 07:47 PM	Arcinis Eipisc looked up from his studies for a moment to ponder the question addressed to him by Lepis; his faithful ally. "No...I don't think settling here was a bad idea. We have nothing to fear. I am the stongest being in creation." Smiling and his undead skin pulling tight against his skull the lich points a finger at the manticore and makes an arcane gesture. Instantly a black beam with dark red glowing edges shoots from his finger tip torwards the beast. It veres at the last second and strikes a plant and it disappears into oblivion. The lich laughs as the creature cowers in fear. "Leave my quarters now!" No longer in a friendsly tone but meanacingly. The beast saunters out the door having to pull in its wings and crouch to fit through the doorway. "You are not to return before sun set unless a new prospective member has arrived." The manticore nodded in understanding. "..also, if they wish to knwo our purpose just inform them that me and my fellow lichs needed to stand and finally exercise our control. The undead will rise. Any who seek my alligence will be promised power in the new age." The manticore nods again with understanding. Pointing his finger out the door, "Now hurry im getting bored of you, don't make me turn you into oblivion ive become attached to having you around." The manticore hurried to the main entrance to welcome the new guests. This foundation will change its agendas depending on the poilitics involved within the land. But the main agenda will always be power seeking. Probally starting subtle and then raising hopefully to all out chaos among every guild. But basically this guild is intended to be fun and forfilling in a role playing prespective and also a out of game experience. If you have ever wanted to play an complete lunitic character bent on distruction this is the place for you. This foundation will be growing quite strong in the next week or two as i have 3 other friends who want to make lichs for it. So if you want power this is the place for you. We will listen to all ideas for destruction and then role play them. I just want to emphasis the role playing thing. It will be stressed heavily in this guild. The difference between in character and out of character will be respected. but i want everyone to have fun. Also knowing that the characters are chaotic. I think it fiar to warn everyone my lich has got a temper issue as shown with his manticore. He won't hesitate to just destroy people he doesn't like. A great ally if you can befriend him but also very dangerous to be around. But everything will be role played in this thread. So if someone attacks someone, make descriptions nice and fruitful and fun to read then do the rolling on the thread. Hope to see some new members. And feel free to introduce yourself to my character, well the manticore; and you have premission to make the manticore talk back to your character as long as you keep him true to his alignment and personality with are lawful evil and meancing respectfully. Guild members: Creator:Arcinis Eipisc character can be found here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5563249&postcount=164)
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-06-05, 09:02 PM	Well as you may or may not know I'm entirly against joining foundations with guildmasters and I have somewhat of a problem with authority. Combine that with the fact that I'm already in a powerfull guild and that your three friends will probably be pushed to the top higher then me if not totally cutting me off from advancing very fast. However I'm willing to cut you a deal. A secret in-game alliance between me personally and you personally. Then as trust goes we will start including respected members of our organizations together and then we will have a secret alliance between our two great foundations, which will indeed be secret to even many of those who walks our ranks. Of course this is all in-game so I have no trouble mentioning it here. What say you? -Frosty
Wilds 03-06-05, 10:51 PM	A swich precedes the forming of a dark clad figure behind which a shadow of darkness wavers. "I here that there is space for our kind here." As he pulls back his hood you see a face pulled tight with death, bone showing in random parts on the skull. A wave of shadows pores from the darkness behind him. tunring "I told you never to do that unless ordered, a lightening bolt streaks and blasts the shadow which recoules and whithers behind him. turning back, "Aaaa yes now where were we....." Frostbite, dont worry Rurik is a fair person, there shouldnt be much troblem in the power sector. he is a fair person who will not mess with any one just because this is a game unless that person starts it
turalisj 03-06-05, 11:00 PM	a green blade appears hovering in the air, seconds later, its weilder appears; turalisj. :D chaos!! yay!!!! :D
Droga 03-06-05, 11:01 PM	A dark laugh echoes from the shadows. Filling the entire citadel with it's dark sound. A deep, menacing voice hisses out of the shadows, echoing through the room. "What an amusing idea. The walking dead, those who are mockeries of even foolish mortals. They think they can take the world. Perhaps we should share it with them. It would be an interesting concept. Working with the rotten and decaying. But are they smart enough to make an alliance with us... that... is the question."
turalisj 03-06-05, 11:03 PM	:zzz: "oh, great. just who i needed to hear. i think i'll go off to the forest dwellers foundation.." turalisj says as he dissapears. night all.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-06-05, 11:09 PM	Well as you may or may not know I'm entirly against joining foundations with guildmasters and I have somewhat of a problem with authority. Combine that with the fact that I'm already in a powerfull guild and that your three friends will probably be pushed to the top higher then me if not totally cutting me off from advancing very fast. However I'm willing to cut you a deal. A secret in-game alliance between me personally and you personally. Then as trust goes we will start including respected members of our organizations together and then we will have a secret alliance between our two great foundations, which will indeed be secret to even many of those who walks our ranks. Of course this is all in-game so I have no trouble mentioning it here. What say you? -Frosty Sounds good frosty, just role play it out in game and it will be good. Take to my character off to the side and we can set something up. Thats what evil characters do they scheme so im all for it. A dark laugh echoes from the shadows. Filling the entire citadel with it's dark sound. A deep, menacing voice hisses out of the shadows, echoing through the room. "What an amusing idea. The walking dead, those who are mockeries of even foolish mortals. They think they can take the world. Perhaps we should share it with them. It would be an interesting concept. Working with the rotten and decaying. But are they smart enough to make an alliance with us... that... is the question." Hearing the echo throughout the citadel the lich gets up from hsi studies and walks into the main hall where he sees his manticore and another lich. Along with a creature of shadow. Disregarding the lich he stares directly into the shadow thing, his deep red eyes glaring. "We are smart enough creature. Death has a face here and not only that, but years of wisdom behind it. I have watched kingdoms fall. I've met your kind before. I respect your power." Eying the other lich for a moment. Then turning back to the thing of shadow. "Your kind holds much power and wisdom, and i can ally with power. It seems we might be able to help eachother." Turning the face the lich. "I see you came with the call to the liches. you are welcome to endow your own studies or have joint opperations. But we will all be allied in a web soon enough. Ive grown bored of you..." He says addressing them both, and his manticore. With a wave of his hand turns back torwards his study. He seems to float more than walk. But he thinks to himself there might soon be enough strong powers to ammount to something. To everyone, if you wish to join up then post a link to your character and ill put you under the members on the first post. but this is looking liek it will be a power house and be pretty sweet. "oh, great. just who i needed to hear. i think i'll go off to the forest dwellers foundation.." turalisj says as he dissapears. night all. Thinking to himself, im lad he left we don't have room for the weak, and dull minded here. Anyone who wouldn't want to be allied with the shadows is very unwise indeed.
Wilds 03-06-05, 11:18 PM	"That person annoys me, the shadow on the other hand could be usefulll...."
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 02:55 PM	Appearing out of the shadows Arcinis steps once again into the main hall. "Fellows of darkness. I have a proposition for you." He says addressing everyone. "The time is comming soon where we might again take control of the lands. Both shadows and the undead. But for my plan i will need your assistance and coporation. And your own ideas and schemes. Ultimately, we will attempt to bind this material plane with a rift to the planes of shadow and the negitive energy plane. Creating a wave of desruction and chaos." Smiling at the thought his leathery skin pulls tightly against his decaying maw. "This will take time, but in the mean while, we need to remain subtle insergents. Do any have an opinion to express. Does the binding of the planes seem to be a good idea for chaos?" He glares at everyone. His manticore espically. Beconing him to leave the room. Just Arcinis and his visitors stand in the room. "You're welcome to use of my fortress. and hopefully we can work together to bring chaos to the land." i think that woudl be a good long term goal, opening a permanent rift to the negitive energy plane and the plane of shadow. Maybe right in the middle of the city...that coudl eb devestating. Any other ideas guys for goals and such?
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-07-05, 03:50 PM	Orcy posted on the wrong thread... Orcy has no idea how he managed that one... but he did. Oh well, while Orcy is here he might as well make a comment or two. Since this is going to be a foundation for the guild wars, Orcy would have to suggest something about your attacks and that stuff. Instead of fighting here, Orcy would encourage you to fight in the arena. We've been asked to try and keep fighting off the foundation threads themselves. So if someone angers you, perhaps you could challenge them to a battle at the arena rather than just lunging at them. It works better for us GMs that way. We can watch over things easier when they're in a central place.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 04:42 PM	Orcy posted on the wrong thread... Orcy has no idea how he managed that one... but he did. Oh well, while Orcy is here he might as well make a comment or two. Since this is going to be a foundation for the guild wars, Orcy would have to suggest something about your attacks and that stuff. Instead of fighting here, Orcy would encourage you to fight in the arena. We've been asked to try and keep fighting off the foundation threads themselves. So if someone angers you, perhaps you could challenge them to a battle at the arena rather than just lunging at them. It works better for us GMs that way. We can watch over things easier when they're in a central place. Well ym character has an angery problem so if he just decided to lash out at someone, should that be expressed then moved to the other thread. Then just give me a surprize round or something or how is that handled? Also, if you guys need help or another GM. IVe got plenty of free time and most of the books. So i can help out. Just an offer.
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-07-05, 05:29 PM	Well ym character has an angery problem so if he just decided to lash out at someone, should that be expressed then moved to the other thread. Then just give me a surprize round or something or how is that handled? Also, if you guys need help or another GM. IVe got plenty of free time and most of the books. So i can help out. Just an offer. We don't appoint GMs, thats the Wizo's job. Orcy would like another, but that is really up to the Wizos to decide who it would be. As for the anger problem... hmmm.... Orcy doesn't really know. If this foundation is dedicated only to the Guild Wars, then perhaps it would be accepted for battle on this thread, but Orcy would probably have to check with someone else. He doesn't really see a problem if this foundation is for nothing other than the wars, the idea of keeping battle off the foundation threads is to keep the foundation threads relatively free to continue discussion of their topic.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 06:16 PM	can we have small conflicts here?
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-07-05, 06:29 PM	can we have small conflicts here? Small conflicts meaning what exactly? If yer refering to wars of sorts then no. All large scale battles will be fought on the battlegrounds thread we'll be making. Orcy is currently working on rules for this section. The battlefield will actually be a shifting place. It does not have a set description, but rather it is where the battle is taking place.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 07:12 PM	by small conflicts i mean small things between members. Like if a member challenges anothe rmember. OR what will probally happen more often is they will just attack eachother. Im guessing most f the members will be chaotic. So i coudl see small scale battles between two members errupting everyonce and a while. Can those be settled here? i mean we don't want other threads to knwo we have battles with our own guild. But it will most likely occur. And i think it would be intresting to see it role played out here while stayign within the context of the battle. Is that alright? i don't think there will be any wars within our guild, but one on one or 2 on one small scale things are definately a possibility.
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-07-05, 07:25 PM	Orcy would prefer that you fight at the arena, but if theres no way around it... Now, Orcy isn't saying that you can or you can't just yet. We'll still need to talk this over a bit. Orcy would suggest asking Silmarien as well. He has just as much say over wether you can fight within your guild or not as Orcy does.
Demonfey 03-07-05, 07:32 PM	It would make sense, though, because this guild is based on bringing the most volatile characters together from what I have gathered.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 07:52 PM	It would make sense, though, because this guild is based on bringing the most volatile characters together from what I have gathered. exactly what i was going for. Also, ive got a question on how wizards chooses DM's. Is there any way i can try out, if you guys need or woudl liek another i tihnk i coudl help out. I already volenteered to make You guys some NPC's on the other thread if you need them for aroudn the city. If you have no idea then don't worry about it. But if we have a probllem once the rules come out within the guild ill come to you or sil, but this is supposed to be a really loosely structured guild of chaos so...
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-07-05, 07:59 PM	exactly what i was going for. Also, ive got a question on how wizards chooses DM's. Is there any way i can try out, if you guys need or woudl liek another i tihnk i coudl help out. I already volenteered to make You guys some NPC's on the other thread if you need them for aroudn the city. If you have no idea then don't worry about it. But if we have a probllem once the rules come out within the guild ill come to you or sil, but this is supposed to be a really loosely structured guild of chaos so... We choose the DMs, but the Wizos choose the GMs. GM is Orcy and Sil's title here on these boards. We are the big guys when it comes to the games. So we could appoint you as a DM, but not as a GM. Orcy may have confused you with that point. Orcy is a GM, but he can appoint DMs, who would be under us but still be allowed to watch over the games, so we don't have as large a workload.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 08:05 PM	Do you need or want another DM to help out, lady R requested for me to make some Merc guilds for use in the wars so im working on that for her, but would you want my help with approving characters. i coudl check some out while at school. I spend about 2 hours a day on the internet at school between digital art and independent study then lunch. ive got a ton of books to so i coudl help out there if you would like.
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-07-05, 08:08 PM	Do you need or want another DM to help out, lady R requested for me to make some Merc guilds for use in the wars so im working on that for her, but would you want my help with approving characters. i coudl check some out while at school. I spend about 2 hours a day on the internet at school between digital art and independent study then lunch. ive got a ton of books to so i coudl help out there if you would like. We'll have to see what we can do when the rules get finished. Orcy can't just make the decision right now. He needs to speak to Sil first. Orcy will get back to you when he knows more.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 08:14 PM	We'll have to see what we can do when the rules get finished. Orcy can't just make the decision right now. He needs to speak to Sil first. Orcy will get back to you when he knows more. alright. Ide be glad to help if given the chance. Back to the thread now. Just give me a PM or something later. Staring at his silent members the lich retreats back to his chambers. Leaving the doors open for them to follow and continue conversation if they wish.
Wilds 03-07-05, 08:47 PM	lol bringing the most volatile people to one place, sounds fun Laughs deeply and evilly emaginaing ways to create more chaos and to help open the rift. "Dracolichs always make things more interesting....."
Droga 03-07-05, 08:55 PM	The shadows cackle, slowing into a deep and dark laugh. A menacing and evil voice echoes from the shadows. Flowing through the rooms. "We skygge are known for our portals. We are... efficient builders of portals that allow us to travel between planes. Perhaps, our portalsmiths could make... modifications to open a rift. The Dromkarian bone used in the building is a condoctor of magical energies. It will be sufficient to tear a rift between the planes depending on the magics used and the positioning of the bones. Yes... it is quite possible to do. To fill the world with shadows and darkness. To make mortals fear and suffer. To bring chaos to their lives and cause them to hide within their homes in hopes that they will be safe. Let the blood of mortal man flow in rivers. Let mortal man know what it is to fear. Man shall be the hunted, no longer shall the so called evil be tracked by fools in shining armor. But mortal man and woman shall be hunted down by beasts of shadow and creatures of death. The world shall fall, and in it's place shall rise a dark shadow to strike down all they have ever known and loved. In the end... their world shall not end with a bang... but a whimper."
Wilds 03-07-05, 08:58 PM	"Excellent, then we shall have chaos and we shall coem to power" my lich will be done sometimes this week, lacrosse is taking a lot of time out of my life
Demonfey 03-07-05, 09:51 PM	Are the skygge immune to negative energy?
Droga 03-07-05, 10:15 PM	No, but they arent really planning to do anything with negative energy, notice only talking about shadows ;)
Wilds 03-07-05, 10:40 PM	Either way if it works there will be a lot of chaos. arent shadows and negative energy close to each other in this game, not really close, but close enought that the lines blur sometimes?
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 11:03 PM	Either way if it works there will be a lot of chaos. arent shadows and negative energy close to each other in this game, not really close, but close enought that the lines blur sometimes? not really, while the shadow plane undead coudl survive. Draga and his people couldnt survive the negitive energy drain if im not mistaken. But either way engulfing the world in shadow sounds very nice indeed. So we have a plan. Draga@ nice RP i liek the way your character talks and thinks. Allies of darkness. Wilds@ ill be loking forward to seeing your character. when you finish let me knwo and ill post you under the members. Same goes to you Draga. I hope we end up with more than 3 members, but im sure we woudl eb strong enough any way lol. "Now that we have agreed on a scheme, i think its time we begin to think about consolidating power. Should we take the city by force, insert insergents, or take out a political leader and implant a fake to take his place and assume control of the city allowing the city paladians to set up the portals under the 'Kings' orders." Addressing his peers the lich seemed to start through them, they can't tell if the empty eyes are even focused. Speaking to the creature of shadow. "You said your kind is good with portals? This could come to great use. Do you think this scheme coudl succeed?" Standing still he awaits a respnse. The manticore saunters out of the room. The lich glares.
Droga 03-07-05, 11:29 PM	The names Droga, not Draga... The shadows speak yet again, the creature having yet to show itself. The erie echoing voice sounds through the halls. "Yes... it is possible. Though these mortals tend to see things they should not. The wench Silmarien of the Half Elves spys on many places with her scrying magics. It is a wonder she can keep up so many scrying pools at once. But she knows not of this place, so she knows not of what happens here. The problem with "king's orders" is that there is no longer a king in Tyrannor. Though there are many ways to fool these mortals. We would need only hold the section of the city we need. Then we could develop these portals with ease."
Rurik "The Silent" 03-07-05, 11:49 PM	The names Droga, not Draga... The shadows speak yet again, the creature having yet to show itself. The erie echoing voice sounds through the halls. "Yes... it is possible. Though these mortals tend to see things they should not. The wench Silmarien of the Half Elves spys on many places with her scrying magics. It is a wonder she can keep up so many scrying pools at once. But she knows not of this place, so she knows not of what happens here. The problem with "king's orders" is that there is no longer a king in Tyrannor. Though there are many ways to fool these mortals. We would need only hold the section of the city we need. Then we could develop these portals with ease." First of all Sorry about the Spelling error. "Exelent then", the lich replies to the shadows. Not yet knowing where exactly the shadow creature is. "Yes, i can see this might be easier than expected. We can take a protion of the city. This should be simple." The lich seems to be thinking everything voer in his head. "I must go back to my studies. I will research these 'portals' and see what i can come up with. And see if i can help your people." The lich dissipates into this air leaving dust from his undead body. You hear a cackle as he dissappears.
Wilds 03-08-05, 07:52 AM	"I will help in the research for these portals and how to use them. Yes the mortals shall all pay with their blood and we shall reap it. Aquriing control of a portion of a large city might prove changelleging. We can do it though, for we are not mortals, so they can do nothign to stop us." Looks around and sees his cohort walking around scratching designs into the walls with his claws, upon seeing the lich glares, he shifts his claws back to a mortal hand and walks away. "That one will be useful to infultrate the city before we make our arrival"
Droga 03-08-05, 12:43 PM	The voice flows out of the shadows, an amused tone in it. Finally, a pair of glowing red eyes open in the shadows. Looking out through the room, the eyes nearly touched the celing. Either the creature was on the wall or was incredibly tall, or it was perched somehow upon the wall. "There is no problem in gaining entry to the city. As all my brothers can travel as I do. Within the shadows, hidden from mortal eyes. I could have an army within their walls in a single night."
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-08-05, 01:26 PM	Sounds good frosty, just role play it out in game and it will be good. Take to my character off to the side and we can set something up. Thats what evil characters do they scheme so im all for it. Just so you know I'm CG. My character has no problem working with dark side of things as long as you respect a few things. Such as not killing CoA members and not sadistically killing women and children for pleasure ect. Other then that, I'm sure we kind find some neutral ground that will help up both. -Frosty
Rurik "The Silent" 03-08-05, 02:31 PM	Just so you know I'm CG. My character has no problem working with dark side of things as long as you respect a few things. Such as not killing CoA members and not sadistically killing women and children for pleasure ect. Other then that, I'm sure we kind find some neutral ground that will help up both. -Frosty As a chaotic evil character i dont care who i work with, just as fair warning ill probally turn on you sometime. Alliences never seem to last that long with chaotic character espically evil ones. but something coudl be worked out so we both have gain.
Demonfey 03-08-05, 04:00 PM	No, but they arent really planning to do anything with negative energy, notice only talking about shadows ;) Here: Ultimately, we will attempt to bind this material plane with a rift to the planes of shadow and the negitive energy plane.
Droga 03-08-05, 04:24 PM	Yes, I saw that, but the SKYGGE arent planning to do anything with negative energy. Just to use the shadow idea. Thats why I was only talking about shadow stuff. Not negative energy.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-08-05, 04:52 PM	Yes, I saw that, but the SKYGGE arent planning to do anything with negative energy. Just to use the shadow idea. Thats why I was only talking about shadow stuff. Not negative energy. As was understood.
Demonfey 03-08-05, 05:01 PM	Note to self: read into other posts better.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-08-05, 06:04 PM	Note to self: read into other posts better. its quite alright. We need to get some other people. Or have other people see the thread. Its growing a little dull. Becasue we can't commense doing anything else untill the rules are finished. "So what do you way we endulge ourselves in a friendly game..." you hear a ghastly voice whisper. Out if the dark hall the lich stands before you once more. He seems to always be impatient. "Whey don't we go out of the fortress and see what we can findout about the surrounding country side. And maybe we can come back with a peasent or two to tourture." An evil smiel crossing his lips.
Wilds 03-08-05, 08:46 PM	"Muuuuhaha, good idea, peasent are of use. You can tortue all that you want, just give me the ones that are strong enough to survive for a few days. They will make an excellent addition to the pack my cohort is rallying." Looks around for the wolf, sees that he is examining a wall. i plan on taking leadership, with a few werewolves thrown in
Demonfey 03-08-05, 08:51 PM	Ah, traditional villains. So refreshing, even though my own villain characters believe that being direct is best.
Wilds 03-08-05, 09:00 PM	Hehe :schemes:
Rurik "The Silent" 03-08-05, 09:26 PM	yeah once i finish making the stronghold for the shadows breath, shudl be a few days. then the merc guilds for the Dm's ill make our guild, well the guild is effectively my characters fortress from before but additions canbe made. But we shoudl have a pretty decent guild house.
Wilds 03-08-05, 10:06 PM	sweet
Dyne 03-09-05, 12:56 AM	I was considering making a Lich character with a vampire cohort that is in search of controlling all undead (at least, most), as well as making the entire world into an undead wasteland. Not sure if I would make him a Wizard, Sorcerer, or Cleric. Wizard or Sorcerer would probably fit the concept better, but Clerics have the Rebuke Undead ability, which is essential. Hmmm.... I hope I'd be able to use that character. Perhaps I could create an MuP? No, too much hassle. Darn.
Dyne 03-09-05, 12:57 AM	yeah once i finish making the stronghold for the shadows breath, shudl be a few days. then the merc guilds for the Dm's ill make our guild, well the guild is effectively my characters fortress from before but additions canbe made. But we shoudl have a pretty decent guild house. What? You're making the map for the Merchants Guild? Why am I not told of such things, I am the founder, afterall....
Droga 03-09-05, 02:09 AM	What? You're making the map for the Merchants Guild? Why am I not told of such things, I am the founder, afterall.... I think he means mercenaries.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-09-05, 02:31 PM	I think he means mercenaries. yeah, well dyne ill hope to have you join us.
Wilds 03-09-05, 08:14 PM	ya join the fun dyne, be the evilest thign you can be EDIT: lol i cant spell for crap
Rurik "The Silent" 03-09-05, 11:31 PM	ive got a question...once the rules are up. If i create undead they are NOt under my control, so can i create undead to fight us then we kill them for xp? Casue i can used create greater undead if we can get corpses...should be able to kill some low level characters of followers of some guild then desecrate the bodies easy enough.
Dyne 03-09-05, 11:52 PM	Or you could just snatch up a few commoners. Or even raid a graveyard. Just tell the GMs what's up, and I'm sure they'd help you roleplay through it.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-10-05, 06:38 PM	Or you could just snatch up a few commoners. Or even raid a graveyard. Just tell the GMs what's up, and I'm sure they'd help you roleplay through it. sounds just dandy
Wilds 03-10-05, 08:38 PM	sweet, time to get some new little dogs for my pet
Dyne 03-10-05, 09:49 PM	I'm in the mood of having a character that just mindlessly kills things. Perhaps I will make a character here as my first big bad guy. Yes, I think I will. The horde can wait, a horde of undead will come first. Unless there's some way of being an arcane spellcaster who commands undead, I'll make a Lich Cleric. My character will not be as chaotic as what most of the others here seem to be, he will just be uncaring. Anger him, and he kills you and makes you his undead minion. Other than that, he really doesn't care. He's too ambitious to pay much attention to alliances and loyalties, he wants it all for himself. However, he will be a powerful asset to the guild, and he will be non-hostile at least to the other members of this guild, and quite helpful at some times.
Wilds 03-10-05, 11:52 PM	sweet, the lichs are forming together, we shall be unstoppable Eyes the new lich, "great a divine one......, well more is better i guess" "Need to find some more food for my pets"
Rurik "The Silent" 03-10-05, 11:52 PM	I'm in the mood of having a character that just mindlessly kills things. Perhaps I will make a character here as my first big bad guy. Yes, I think I will. The horde can wait, a horde of undead will come first. Unless there's some way of being an arcane spellcaster who commands undead, I'll make a Lich Cleric. My character will not be as chaotic as what most of the others here seem to be, he will just be uncaring. Anger him, and he kills you and makes you his undead minion. Other than that, he really doesn't care. He's too ambitious to pay much attention to alliances and loyalties, he wants it all for himself. However, he will be a powerful asset to the guild, and he will be non-hostile at least to the other members of this guild, and quite helpful at some times. sounds a lot liek hwo i planned on playing my lich lol. just sees life as a play thing kills and raises the dead for fun and ammusment. If you bother him then he'll just try to kill them lol. Yeah ive never really played a chaotic evil character before, but i think its going to be fun. "HA, your pets eat...the undead never eat." Thinking about his hordes of undead followers. "Yes, they dont waste time on nutrition."
Dyne 03-11-05, 12:02 AM	"Undead consume the flesh of the living. Whether or not it is necessary for their survival, it is still amusing to hear the screaming as the flesh of the creature is torn into." After saying this, the Lich goes to his study and closes the door, obviously not wanting to be disturbed. My character will be Neutral Evil. Don't really care much for the Law-Chaos axis unless I'm a Paladin or Monk, since I really don't understand it too well. Good vs. Evil makes perfect sense to me, but Law vs. Chaos is completely foreign. D&D is the only game that I've ever played that lists Chaos as something separate from Evil and "Justice" separate from Good.
Wilds 03-11-05, 12:19 AM	"Yes my pets eat, but thats what makes them so much of better machines to control, your undead have no drive only your will. My pets on the other hand after a week of no food will do almost anything to get to there meal......"
Rurik "The Silent" 03-11-05, 12:19 AM	"Undead consume the flesh of the living. Whether or not it is necessary for their survival, it is still amusing to hear the screaming as the flesh of the creature is torn into." After saying this, the Lich goes to his study and closes the door, obviously not wanting to be disturbed. My character will be Neutral Evil. Don't really care much for the Law-Chaos axis unless I'm a Paladin or Monk, since I really don't understand it too well. Good vs. Evil makes perfect sense to me, but Law vs. Chaos is completely foreign. D&D is the only game that I've ever played that lists Chaos as something separate from Evil and "Justice" separate from Good. Aight, sounds cool. PS if your looking for a great build for the divine Lich check out my character. Feats are a bit sloppy, but the spells rock. But no domains *sigh*... Standing tall and facing the other lich. "My minions are far from mindless. They were not merely created...well some of them were." He smiles pulling the decrepid flesh tighly aroudn his cheek bones. "..They were converts. They chose to embrace the undead state of servitude...Some might have had slight persuasion but most chose to serve in a bid for power."
Wilds 03-11-05, 10:23 AM	"Bid for power? the power of what? stench? zombies and skeletons are mindless. Though i do have to applued you for your apparently amazing effort to convice your followers that undeath was better than life. But i stil prefore the living for my pets, they are rabid and feral, just what is needed to control mortals and strike terror into those who oppose me."
Dyne 03-11-05, 02:02 PM	The lich comes out of his study once more, slightly perturbed and slightly interested in the discussion. "You are one to talk, lich. If you do not see the undeath as power, then why did you embrace it?" I am all-powerful. Serve me. You there, spit-shine my boots!
Wilds 03-11-05, 05:35 PM	"I embrace undeath, fully and totally. I just find that the living can have much more powerful motivations when it comes to killing and chaos." Thinks for a little. "Unless of course you keep several vampires from feeding for a while and then lettign them lose."
Dyne 03-11-05, 06:06 PM	I simply couldn't decide whether my character was going to be a Cleric or a Wizard. So, I reached a comprise. I've created a base class that combines elements of the Wizard with the ability to rebuke undead. I call it the Lord of the Dead. Let me know what you think. Lord of the Dead Basically, take the Wizard class and make the following changes: Alignment: Any nongood. Bonus Feats: A lord of the dead receives no bonus feats. Summon Familiar: Only through use of the Stitched Flesh Familiar, which gives the spellcaster an undead familiar. School Specialization: A lord of the dead specializes in the school of Necromancy at 1st-level. He must choose two prohibited schools as normal. Rebuke Undead: A lord of the dead rebukes undead as a cleric according to his levels in lord of the dead. Spells: A lord of the dead has the option of learning and adding the following spells to his spellbook: 0 level: Inflict minor wounds 1st-level: Hide from undead, inflict light wounds 2nd-level: Doom, inflict moderate wounds 3rd-level: Desecrate, inflict serious wounds, speak with dead 4th-level: Deeper darkness, inflict critical wounds 5th-level: Mass inflict light wounds 6th-level: Antilife shell, harm, mass inflict moderate wounds, undeath to death, unhallow 7th-level: Mass inflict serious wounds 8th-level: Create greater undead, destruction, mass inflict critical wounds 9th-level: Implosion I think it's fairly balanced. The only things added are the additions to the spell list and the rebuke undead ability, but the restrictions and elimination of bonus feats should balance that out nicely.
Droga 03-11-05, 06:08 PM	The shadows laugh coldly. The eyes moving down toward the floor a bit before a figure begins to form from within the shadowy area. From within the shadows steps a sixteen foot tall creature. It wears armor made of black bone, a helmet of the same material covers most of it's head, letting it's red eyes shine through the only opening. The mantle it wears on it's back ends in a pair of large shoulderpads. Upon which large black spikes stretch out toward the sky. It hisses and reaches it's claw back into the shadows, pulling a sword from within larger than most men. The hilt of the sword is carved with the head of a half-elf, screaming in unseen terror and pain. It's entire length is crafted from the black bone material that composes the armor. He holds the sword before him so that the head and blade face upward. The face on the blade twists into a smile and winks. "Mortals and their corpses are nothing compared to the power of the planes. The shadows have much greater strength than these walking decaying forms could ever hope to have. Yet, mortal... dead... or immortal. It matters not. As long as the suffering of fools and those who would think themselves "holy" is ensured. As long as those who stand before us are destroyed, and seperated from their lives, all is well."
Rurik "The Silent" 03-11-05, 06:09 PM	"I embrace undeath, fully and totally. I just find that the living can have much more powerful motivations when it comes to killing and chaos." Thinks for a little. "Unless of course you keep several vampires from feeding for a while and then lettign them lose." "Of course life can benifit your followers. But thats only if they know they can't embrace undeath." He snickers. "IF your followers have a life to lose they might be more reserved in battle, but then again they might come out with more determination to live. I don't want to bet my chances on a maybe. Ide rather have minnions that have a constant power...any way, my minnions are not for battle. They are grounds keepers. If i had to go to war i wouldn't trust them any how, ide rather hire some mercinaries." Thinking to himself. "This way i come out ahead. If the mercinaries fail then i raise them as undead, and if they succeed then i have lost no men. And i can scoure the battlefield for more provisions. Well i won't search the battle field. Thats another job for my grounds keepers." Acknoledging the shadow creature. "Yes, all will fall to our force of undeath and shadow. Combined we have the power to reign chaos across the planes. So that even the outter plains will sense our recokening on the material plain."
Rurik "The Silent" 03-11-05, 06:10 PM	I simply couldn't decide whether my character was going to be a Cleric or a Wizard. So, I reached a comprise. I've created a base class that combines elements of the Wizard with the ability to rebuke undead. I call it the Lord of the Dead. Let me know what you think. Lord of the Dead Basically, take the Wizard class and make the following changes: Alignment: Any nongood. Bonus Feats: A lord of the dead receives no bonus feats. Summon Familiar: Only through use of the Stitched Flesh Familiar, which gives the spellcaster an undead familiar. School Specialization: A lord of the dead specializes in the school of Necromancy at 1st-level. He must choose two prohibited schools as normal. Rebuke Undead: A lord of the dead rebukes undead as a cleric according to his levels in lord of the dead. Spells: A lord of the dead has the option of learning and adding the following spells to his spellbook: 0 level: Inflict minor wounds 1st-level: Hide from undead, inflict light wounds 2nd-level: Doom, inflict moderate wounds 3rd-level: Desecrate, inflict serious wounds, speak with dead 4th-level: Deeper darkness, inflict critical wounds 5th-level: Mass inflict light wounds 6th-level: Antilife shell, harm, mass inflict moderate wounds, undeath to death, unhallow 7th-level: Mass inflict serious wounds 8th-level: Create greater undead, destruction, mass inflict critical wounds 9th-level: Implosion I think it's fairly balanced. The only things added are the additions to the spell list and the rebuke undead ability, but the restrictions and elimination of bonus feats should balance that out nicely. If it wer eup to me ide ok it. So i tihnk its fair, great combo. i like it.
Dyne 03-11-05, 10:39 PM	"To put it in simple terms, I despise all living things. I cannot stand things that act on a mind of their own. Nothing in this world deserves the privaledge of life. This is why I will destroy them all and make them my servants. How much better is it to destroy an enemy and as well force him to serve you with utter loyalty?" The Lich procures a skull of ebony from the folds of his robes. You sense an evil power emanating from the skull, and it strengthens your undead bodies. The Lich watches it for a moment in admiration. The Lich's silence is interrupted by the arrival of a figure. The man's skin is pale (at least you think he's a man), and his posture is sinister. He approaches the Lich. "Ah, Medlocke, I wondered when you would arrive. Things are beginning to unfold as planned. Are the mortal men ready for their task? What of the savages?" "Master, the mortal men are bound to your will. They will follow you to any end. As for the savages, your purposes suit them well, so they have no reason to object to whatever you would place before them, as long as they see gain for themselve in it. They, too, are loyal to you. When the preparations are finished, you shall be unstoppable." "Thank you, Medlocke. You may continue your duties." The pale man walks off, his black clothing flowing with his movements. His countenance seems royal, yet he is quite fiercesome to behold.
Wilds 03-11-05, 10:42 PM	"Yes eventually my pets will die, but until then they will serve their purpose and serve it to their fullest. If they die then they are your to use."
Dyne 03-11-05, 11:18 PM	"Yes eventually my pets will die, but until then they will serve their purpose and serve it to their fullest. If they die then they are your to use." :plotting: All will die, and all will come to serve me. :evillaugh :evillaugh :evillaugh Behold, the great ego of the time!: I am all-powerful! Bwa ha ha.... Ha....
Wilds 03-12-05, 06:21 PM	Yes, but do not let the power consume you for then you shall fall and another shall take your place
Dyne 03-12-05, 07:00 PM	Yes, but do not let the power consume you for then you shall fall and another shall take your place That's what I'm hoping for.
Wilds 03-12-05, 08:02 PM	to fall and be killed? or to fill the gap left by another?
Dyne 03-12-05, 08:27 PM	to fall and be killed? or to fill the gap left by another? The first one. I don't expect this character to last forever, and really, I don't want him to. Eventually, I'll want to have some other character as a big, bad guy. If anyone can defeat The Lord of the Dead, then good for them. I've already got an Orc Warlord in the works, so I can overwhelm the land with my Horde then.
Wilds 03-12-05, 10:21 PM	lol, nice unfortunatly for your plan when a pc dies it comes back in 2 weeks, unless you are making that character a one life charachater, either have fun
Dyne 03-12-05, 10:33 PM	lol, nice unfortunatly for your plan when a pc dies it comes back in 2 weeks, unless you are making that character a one life charachater, either have fun 2 weeks? What do you mean? If you are referring to the Lich's immortality, a lich returns 1d10 days after being destroyed. And I totally forgot about that. Heh heh heh, that'll be fun. And my Vampire Cohort is virtually indestructible as well. Maybe if someone manages to take out my lich for good, I'll make a Vampire PC. I've been meaning to for a while, but it's difficult to balance out a Vampire's strengths and weaknesses into a reasonably powerful character with only a few levels because of LA. I've come up with that stealthy characters make better Vampires because they don't need to be physically powerful anyway, and a Vampire's abilities compliment their own.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-13-05, 12:24 AM	i think what he's talking about was at some point during the rules when they were making them, they were talking about not having death permanent. And that characters woudl come back in 2 weeks time. But i don't know if the rule went through or not
Dyne 03-13-05, 01:05 AM	:uh-huh: I'm pretty sure that the rule didn't go through. At least, editing the rules document, I didn't see it in there. Glad too, 'cause that would be whack. If a character dies, they can either get him resurrected or they can start a new character. Of to prevent death, they could get him cloned and when he dies, he comes back in a body of a clone. That saved my character last time on multiple occasions.
Wilds 03-13-05, 10:08 AM	well it doesnt really matter for us know does it? lol, like you said dyne we come back in 1d10 days as long as our phylacracys are still in one piece
Rurik "The Silent" 03-13-05, 01:02 PM	im very thankful that rule didnt go through, it woudl have made things more difficult. Becasue everyone would have the staying power fo a lich...and that wouldn't be fair.
Dyne 03-13-05, 02:08 PM	Immortality would be pointless.
Wilds 03-13-05, 10:55 PM	ya lol
Dyne 03-13-05, 11:22 PM	I've come up with something. My character won't start off as a lich. If I have to take a feat, pay 120,000 gp and 4,800 XP, and take a +4 LA, then I'm gonna start off as a level 15 Human and RP through all that.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-14-05, 03:05 PM	I've come up with something. My character won't start off as a lich. If I have to take a feat, pay 120,000 gp and 4,800 XP, and take a +4 LA, then I'm gonna start off as a level 15 Human and RP through all that. thats cool, that reminds me, im starting a character with ym friends and he's human now. If i gain the lich template mid game do i have to even out and lose character lvls or do i just end up being about 4 lvls ahead for a lil bit? or do i gain the +4 adjustment then just have to wait a long time before i lvl again becasue ill need a lot more xp? i know there are threads for the rules but i figured ide get just as good of a response here.
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-14-05, 03:15 PM	thats cool, that reminds me, im starting a character with ym friends and he's human now. If i gain the lich template mid game do i have to even out and lose character lvls or do i just end up being about 4 lvls ahead for a lil bit? or do i gain the +4 adjustment then just have to wait a long time before i lvl again becasue ill need a lot more xp? i know there are threads for the rules but i figured ide get just as good of a response here. They made rules for this that Orcy will look up for you. You can take parts of the progression as levels until you fully become a lich. You can find that progression here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20031212a)
NightScreamer20 03-14-05, 03:47 PM	Mostly with characters/monsters with LA you can take it as a 'Monster Class'. During these Monster Class levels you cannot multiclass into any other Class and must finish out the 'Monster Class' before doing so...
Rurik "The Silent" 03-14-05, 05:41 PM	They made rules for this that Orcy will look up for you. You can take parts of the progression as levels until you fully become a lich. You can find that progression here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20031212a) thank you very much. I think this helps represent the time it takes to be come a lich also. Thx
Dyne 03-14-05, 08:39 PM	It also says that you can just become a lich all at once. Orcy, are we using the template class levels as the rule, or just an option? EDIT: Also, would 9 levels in Ur Priest provide an 11th caster level? Because you have to be caster level 11th to become a lich.
Orcy The Green Wonder 03-14-05, 09:05 PM	It also says that you can just become a lich all at once. Orcy, are we using the template class levels as the rule, or just an option? EDIT: Also, would 9 levels in Ur Priest provide an 11th caster level? Because you have to be caster level 11th to become a lich. Using the levels is an option, Orcy placed the link here because Rurik asked about becoming a lich part way through a campaign. As for the Ur Priest. If the character's caster level is 11, it should be fine, there would probably be more info on this elsewhere on the boards. Orcy himself isnt positive.
Rurik "The Silent" 03-14-05, 11:18 PM	It also says that you can just become a lich all at once. Orcy, are we using the template class levels as the rule, or just an option? EDIT: Also, would 9 levels in Ur Priest provide an 11th caster level? Because you have to be caster level 11th to become a lich. to be a caster lvl 11 with the ur priest, assuming lvl 9...like me...you either need to have at least 2 lvls in a non spell casting class then pick up the practiced spellcaster feat. Or have 4 lvls in anyother casting class. The ur priest requirements you have to be at least 5th lvl; becasue of the two skills that require ranks 8. But if you do it liek i did and go up to lvl 5 or 6 in something then start with ur priest lvls. Then you can assume at lvl 15 you take on the lich template. And in savage species an alternative to takign template lvls you can drop class lvls then you drop some fo your class lvls for it. Just make sure you still have the requirements for the ur priest class...if done right you can use your Ur-priest lvls to qualify for the class itself.
Wilds 03-16-05, 09:15 PM	"Need fresh blood, need something to calm the pack, they are getting to ancy"
Dyne 03-16-05, 10:04 PM	What are your pets, anyway Wilds? You probably said somewhere on the first page, but I'm too lazy to check. ;)
Wilds 03-16-05, 10:39 PM	im going to try to get my followers to be werewolves, so i can really have my pets and not have to negotiate to control them
Dyne 03-16-05, 11:16 PM	That would be interesting. Orcy's link also has template levels for werewolves, as well as pretty much all the other LA templates in the MM, I believe.
Wilds 03-17-05, 07:19 AM	yep, already seen those, and its cool because i can hae some of my higher level followers being werewolf lords
Rurik "The Silent" 03-17-05, 02:43 PM	pets aye? lol
Wilds 03-17-05, 04:06 PM	yes my litttle wolf minions
Rurik "The Silent" 03-19-05, 02:05 PM	Things are gettign kind of quite i hope we can kick start once the rules pick up. Wilds do you knwo if Dabit is still planning on joining? if not ill kick him in the shins lol.
Wilds 03-20-05, 09:58 AM	lol kick him in the shins :bow: , i thought you were talking him into it. now to wait for the rules :waits: hopefully ill have the lich done soon, lacrosse takes a lot more time than i remembered
Wilds 03-31-05, 04:56 PM	dang ive been gone for a week and no posts
Rurik "The Silent" 04-03-05, 01:14 PM	yeah...this thread isnt dead though. i still plan on using it. just need to get a few more to join and for the rules to come out.
Wilds 04-03-05, 09:25 PM	ok cool, i was hoping that it wasnt dead. lol the lich is taking so long to make, that or i am really slow. Most likely the seconded
Rurik "The Silent" 04-03-05, 11:13 PM	ok cool, i was hoping that it wasnt dead. lol the lich is taking so long to make, that or i am really slow. Most likely the seconded actuall yit took me forever to make mine....when i put it in word its 7 pages long.
Dyne 04-03-05, 11:24 PM	How could one character be 7 pages? It does take a long time to make characters, especially when they're starting out above level 1. I've only got one of my characters finished so far, and I haven't even got equipment for him yet.
Rurik "The Silent" 04-04-05, 02:27 PM	How could one character be 7 pages? It does take a long time to make characters, especially when they're starting out above level 1. I've only got one of my characters finished so far, and I haven't even got equipment for him yet. i really don't know. i did skip some lines and stuff and its including the cohort witch is like one page. And background info and leadership info and like basca attack info ill need. So the indepth stuff for a lich can take some time. If you look at any of my two character they are extremely detailed. Full background stories and decriptions of special things.
Dyne 04-30-05, 02:35 PM	A man in black armor strides toward the dark chamber, towards the two liches. A violet cloak billows behind him. "Long have these halls been silent and empty. This should change. I am Stormhand, and Eldritch Knight in search of allies. Join with me, for our mutual strength. You shall be able to continue pursuing your plans. But, instead of being independent, you will be numbered among my forces. What say you?" Y'all want to just combine this guild with Stormhand's guild? We both need at least 3 members to be considered a guild, the more the better.
Wilds 05-01-05, 09:33 AM	do you have a thread up yet for yoru guild? id be good with it, talk to rurik though
Dyne 05-01-05, 02:36 PM	Stormhand Federation (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=422445) I might even create another branch specifically for you guys. Something for necromancers and the like.
Rurik "The Silent" 05-01-05, 05:57 PM	yeah, how about i trash this one and wilds and i go to yours it will be easier on me becasue then i dont have to be two guildmasters.