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Dyne 12-25-04, 12:35 AM	I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be one already. But, since a Forest Dwellers Foundation doesn't seem to exist, I've decided to create one myself for all my fellow lovers of green and life. Feel free to make yourselves at home. Before you stand some of the largest trees you have ever seen in your life. Massive monuments of green and life tower over you, providing a safe roof over your head in the form of a canopy. The forest before you is filled with green and life of all kinds. All forms of life reside in every crevice, and you can feel that the very ground beneath you is alive. Deeper into the forest, you find small buildings that have been built above the ground and that circle around the bases of the trees, using their massive trunks as a stable foundation. A figure above you climbs down on a rope ladder from one of these buildings. His clothing is a simple green, and his face is welcoming. "Welcome to the Deep Forest. It is nice to see new visitors. Feel free to make the forest your home."
Dyne 12-25-04, 12:36 AM	Dyne (Founder) Aramar the Black (Keeper of the Wood (In-Game Ambassador and Political Decision-Maker)) Valarian's Beloved Demonfey Turalisj Frostbite_Ravenheart Mr_Grimm Baerdith Grimclaw Lady Rolindin
Dyne 12-25-04, 12:40 AM	Creations: None Projects: Forest Bard
Dyne 12-25-04, 12:41 AM	To start things off: I have recently become interested in the Sorcerer and Bard as Spontaneous Spellcasters. I have always found magic to be interesting, but I am finding much enjoyment in exploring the idea of not having to prepare your spells ahead of time. I find the Bard in particular to suit my tastes. I have always loved music, and the Bard fits me perfectly. But, I also have a love of the forest. My idea (if it hasn't already been done) is to create an Alternate Bard that is closer to the forest. He would basically be like the standard Bard, but his spells would be more in tune with nature, and he would borrow some spells and abillities from the Druid and the Ranger. I'm currently trying to work out what spells to put on his spell list. But, so far, I've decided that he should at least have the Wild Empathy ability. What do you guys think?
Aramar the Black 12-26-04, 05:28 PM	Hello, Dyne. Mind if I join? I too have been into spontaniour casters of late, but for different reasons. Sorcerers becuase of thier ancestry and ties to BloodLore, and Bards for thier songs and approch to magic. I too, have a love of the forest, and the buety of nature. That is way, in the entire PC party that I created, each persona being a different facet of my personality and interests, I have a ranger and a druid. Give me some time and I'll dig around for naturesitic spells and songs suited for the Bard. oh, and I don't know exactly where it is, or who created it, (you might have to use the search funtion or a PrC compendium) but there exists an Elder Bard PrC, which was strongly tied to nature and creatures of the forest (fey and whatnot) it might give you ideas, if I remeber its abilites well enough.
Dyne 12-26-04, 05:32 PM	Awesome. Welcome, Aramar the Black. I'll take a look at that Elder Bard PrC when I have the time. If the IFWG starts up again, I was thinking that we could have a whole group of PC's, each one involved with nature, that could all fill a certain niche. A Barbarian could be a good muscle; Rangers could be really good archers or fighters, as well as providing some spellcasting power; Druids would do what they do best, using their magic to commune with nature; Clerics of nature deities could fill the usual niche of a Cleric; and the Bard that we're working on would fill the regular role of a Bard, but do so in a way more connected to the forest. By-the-way, I do certainly hope that the IFWG starts up again. :(
Aramar the Black 12-26-04, 10:48 PM	hmm, and if you happened to see a recent issue of Dragon, #324 they had written a variant monk that was in tune with nature. They also had a wild defender variant ranger, but that's "beside the point" if you will. And Dragon #323 had an artical for making the rouge more of awilderness class, but by way of certain application of existing class rules. As for the IFWG, I don't think some of the WizOs approved completely, and suggest we move the competing somewhere else, but then, you've seen the announcment, so you know. If they do start up again, I think the only way we would see them soon is if they start up as a secret underground society. :) Ah! The Elder Bard (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=54398&highlight=Elder+Bard) Lookin through it agian, I'm actualy not sure what to get from it, but I'll let you see for yourself.
Dyne 12-26-04, 10:57 PM	What are you talking about? There are no "secret underground societies." :shifty: I don't have Dragon magazine, so I've never seen any of those things. If you could post them up, PM them, or email them, it would be nice.
Aramar the Black 12-26-04, 11:07 PM	The Dragon Magizine content is, under the OGL, not allowed for reproduction of any kind. in a nutshell, however, the article for rogues explains what king of skills and stragegies on would employ if they were to have thier rogue be more a of a hunter, trapper, or scout. For monks, the one articale talks about different backrounds for monks, and what kind of training and outlook a monk would have depending on it. (Nature monks- very solitary, adn learned thier skill from the aspects of nature.) As for the rest, I'm not sure what to do. unless you know the OGL much better than I do. (which shouldent be to hard)
Dyne 12-26-04, 11:13 PM	I don't know what OGL is, but I'm assuming you mean copyright law. In that case, I'm pretty sure it's okay to share it with a few friends. As long as you're not selling it or mass-producing it for use by lots of people. I think it'd be okay to email it. Probably shouldn't post it here, though. I'm not gonna be buying a subscription to Dragon magazine any time soon, so they wouldn't have any losses. And I may subscribe to it later anyway, when I have the money. Since it wouldn't cause them to lose money, I don't think there's any problem with emailing it.
Valarian's Beloved 12-27-04, 06:18 AM	I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be one already. But, since a Forest Dwellers Foundation doesn't seem to exist, I've decided to create one myself for all my fellow lovers of green and life. Feel free to make yourselves at home. Before you stand some of the largest trees you have ever seen in your life. Massive monuments of green and life tower over you, providing a safe roof over your head in the form of a canopy. The forest before you is filled with green and life of all kinds. All forms of life reside in every crevice, and you can feel that the very ground beneath you is alive. Deeper into the forest, you find small buildings that have been built above the ground and that circle around the bases of the trees, using their massive trunks as a stable foundation. A figure above you climbs down on a rope ladder from one of these buildings. His clothing is a simple green, and his face is welcoming. "Welcome to the Deep Forest. It is nice to see new visitors. Feel free to make the forest your home." A bird suddenly lifts to flight overhead, a twig snaps, a squirrel scurries up a tree next to a hooded figure. Her form is loosely covered in a hunter green cloak having an elaborate gold writing woven into the garment around the edges. Her softly glowing amber eyes can be seen from inside her hood as she slowly approaches. She leans forward, tilts her head to see someone or something moving about in the forest. The elven maiden speaks softly with a thick rustic accent. "Greetings. My Name is Verlansia. Thankyou for the invitation. " She sits under the shade of a tree.
Demonfey 12-27-04, 11:38 AM	{Crowley spots the forest, and walks in. As he goes through, he remembers all the peaceful moments he ever had, all of them in forests.} Maybe I should stay here, and join.
Dyne 12-28-04, 01:41 AM	"All of you are most welcome. Any who revere nature for its beauty and strength can stay here in peace, under the protection of our guardian, *Achuak*, the Green Dragon." That's gonna be my character for this foundation, a Green Dragon. I'm still not certain about the name, though. Perhaps something in Sylvan, rather than Draconic? Anybody know Sylvan?
NightScreamer20 12-28-04, 02:22 AM	IMC we always spoke Sylvan as Urban Slang... Don't ask...
The Vorpal Tribble 12-28-04, 03:31 AM	Not to try to stop anything going on her, but I did try to start the 'Beastmaster's Preserve', a place for rangers, druids and other nature enthusiasts. Only got one member :( -- Umbra, the starter of the preserve would very likely belong to this, so count me in ;)
Dyne 12-28-04, 10:40 AM	"Her?" You're not referring to me, are you? Maybe I should put it in my sig that I'm male. :rolleyes: NightScreamer, I was thinking on naming the dragon a Sylvan word. Maybe the Sylvan word for Green.
Demonfey 12-28-04, 12:10 PM	"Her?" You're not referring to me, are you? Maybe I should put it in my sig that I'm male. :rolleyes: NightScreamer, I was thinking on naming the dragon a Sylvan word. Maybe the Sylvan word for Green. I can find the draconic word for green. Wait, that is the name you already have...and its achuak (adj.)
Dyne 12-28-04, 07:46 PM	Yeah, I already have Draconic. But, draconic sounds rather ugly. :yuck: I don't think it really fits my character, since he's supposed to be the guardian of the forest. I don't want his name to sound like he's choking on something.
turalisj 12-28-04, 09:15 PM	can me and my woodling elf druid join? :D
Dyne 12-28-04, 09:44 PM	Woodling? :confused: You're all welcome to join.
Aramar the Black 12-28-04, 09:45 PM	Well, to stay close to the Draconic name, but make it sound different, alter the spelling a bit, (to ashauk), and pronounce it like this: ahhshaeahk. help? or no?
Aramar the Black 12-28-04, 09:47 PM	Woodling? :confused: Woodling: A template released (or re-released) in the MM III The creature is made of wood/plants, but that's all I know.
Silmarien Aldalome 12-28-04, 10:03 PM	Hi there Aramar - good to see you. I'm going to want to "grow" things here. We very much needed a forested thing. Also, the HEF is in the middle of an ancient forest - so - there are all sorts of Woodland things I want to work on. Not the least of which is an idea that throws back to a "Forestal". Has anyone read The Land series - there's a mythological creature in it waiting to be written. stav
Aramar the Black 12-28-04, 10:48 PM	Ah, yes, the Forestals. And the living force of the One Forest. But should the Forestal be a creature, template, or PrC? I would say creature or template, as they were created by the One Forest; but then the Forestal of Garroting Deep transformed Hile Troy, a human, into a Forestal, which eitehr warrants a template, spell or Forestal abilty or ritual that that can tranform others into Forestals.
Silmarien Aldalome 12-28-04, 10:55 PM	Ah, yes, the Forestals. And the living force of the One Forest. But should the Forestal be a creature, template, or PrC? I would say creature or template, as they were created by the One Forest; but then the Forestal of Garroting Deep transformed Hile Troy, a human, into a Forestal, which eitehr warrants a template, spell or Forestal abilty or ritual that that can tranform others into Forestals. I tend to lean towards a "creature" - but having said that, I agree with you about the ritual, spell, and transformation aspects. I seem to remember they were a fusion of Earthpower and Sentience (of trees). And that the forest's size was a function of the Forestal's power. The bigger the forest....etc. I rememer them being able to send you telepathic messages - forest whispers - and also that the Forestal had great power at his disposal, but bound by the limits of the forest. What level "thing" do you think it should be?
Dyne 12-28-04, 11:04 PM	Whoa, hold on a bit. What are Forestals? What is the "One Forest?" :confused:
Aramar the Black 12-28-04, 11:27 PM	Well, we first have to figure out what the minimal forest size would have to be in order to warrant a forest. Too small and they may well be just treants, nymphs, or dryads. i would say that a forest at least a rough mile or two square would be minimum size, but even then the forestal would be at minimum capibilities, being more than enough for the masses, but a fair challenge for a few higher level PC class individuals. Say, CR 5-7. Then, as the forest size increases by a set factor, so to does the power (hit dice, spells/spell-lifke abilties, etc) of the Forestal. Perhaps the abiltiy of creating a new Forestal by a Forestal could be a special abiltiy for higher-level forestals, which would simply change the target into a forest of a certain level (dependent on teh power of the casting forestal) How much like a template this could be depends on if it is seen fit that the chosen character retains abilties from previous levels, or if they are just suddenly and total turned into a new forestal: nothing reminisiant of the old being other than memories. On the Forest Bard, I hqave suggestions for abilities, if they have not already been considered: Spells amy be either divine or arcane. as the bard may draw his music from nature itself, or may go about it as traditional bards do, weaving from nothingness with the power of thier souls. Bardic Music: it should be that the forest bard's music focuses little on inspiring and such effects that normal bards produce, and rather on effects dealing with nature; however, other than creating spell-like abilities (which bardic music might do anyway), I am at a loss. Also, he should somehow be able to draw form either the druid spell list, a cumtom spell list, of druid and bardic spells, or the naturistic domains. (Sun, Animal, Plant, possibly the elemental as well.)
Dyne 12-28-04, 11:44 PM	I was thinking that the Forest Bard cast Divine Spells, since he basically calls upon nature as a deity (at least, that's how I reason that Druids and Rangers use Divine magic). I'm thinking that his abilities would still be inspiring, but maybe in a sort of different way. When I think of a Forest Bard, I think of the cliched fife player who charms forest animals. I think we should create a custom spell list, using spells drawn from the Bard, Druid, and Ranger (as well as possibly some of those domains, if they're not already covered).
Aramar the Black 12-28-04, 11:54 PM	Whoa, hold on a bit. What are Forestals? What is the "One Forest?" :confused: Forestals: Guardians of the remander of the One Forest. Wielding power to fight back opression and evil from the Forest. Their power is often based on the size of the portion of Forest they protect, and as it weakens, so do they. the One Forest: The ancient Forest that used to cover all the Land, before being cut through, split, attacked, ravaged, divided,a dnwhat not by ignorant humans and foul Ravers. Ravers: Servents of Lord Foul (the prime BBEG of the series.) As per Forest Bard: I tend to think of either fife player or singer, who can charm a flower, call his animals friends, or have a conversation with the old trees of the forest. Or, the mighty bard singing in an awesome cresendo, as he sits in a grove, in a meditive stance, and he asks the very forces of nature (weather, animals. plants) to fight with and for him and aginast the evil that plauges them. Or, the shadowy piper in the trees, whose music sends chills and possibly fear through those that hear it; and dark, fingers of mist swirl, thier purposes thier own and the pipers. And the small fey-kin come out to dance and play.
Dyne 12-29-04, 12:36 AM	I agree on the Forest Bard. The image I get somewhat resembles Fey creatures. I was thinking on getting rid of the Bardic Knowledge ability (since he probably wouldn't have as much knowledge of rumors, living in the forest (unless they were rumors of stuff going on in the forest?)) and replace it with the Druid's/Ranger's Wild Empathy ability. Also, we could either nerf the Bardic Music ability so that it's not as effective at inspiring or that it is more nature-focused (such as calling, charming, and/or inspiring forest creatures). We could add some of the abilities of the Druid, since the Forest Bard would share a similar bond to the forest. I'll take a look at the Druid abilities and see what I can come up with.
Valarian's Beloved 12-29-04, 03:24 AM	"All of you are most welcome. Any who revere nature for its beauty and strength can stay here in peace, under the protection of our guardian, *Achuak*, the Green Dragon." That's gonna be my character for this foundation, a Green Dragon. I'm still not certain about the name, though. Perhaps something in Sylvan, rather than Draconic? Anybody know Sylvan? The elven maiden looks to the ground. She takes up a little hazel twig, creating little symbols in the earth. There is a actual vintage druidic name "Anextlomarus” which means "The Great Protector."
Demonfey 12-29-04, 11:07 AM	The elven maiden looks to the ground. She takes up a little hazel twig, creating little symbols in the earth. There is a actual vintage druidic name "Anextlomarus” which means "The Great Protector." That sounds good to me. Very fitting.
Dyne 12-29-04, 04:01 PM	Anextlomarus.... Rather difficult to spell, but it works very well. I think I'll use that. Thank you, Valarian's Beloved. :)
Demonfey 12-29-04, 04:13 PM	How about we call him Anex for short.
turalisj 12-29-04, 09:10 PM	lol. "well, well, what a lovely community of lesser beings." an elf walks in. next to him is a bearhound. "my name is jsilarut, i am a chosen of the forests. this is my partner, brawler. i have heard from the woods about your place." :D my woodling elf druid and his partner, a bearhound, gotta love those bearhounds.
Demonfey 12-29-04, 09:14 PM	lol. "well, well, what a lovely community of lesser beings." an elf walks in. next to him is a bearhound. "my name is jsilarut, i am a chosen of the forests. this is my partner, brawler. i have heard from the woods about your place." :D my woodling elf druid and his partner, a bearhound, gotta love those bearhounds. Alright, Jsilarut, may I ask why you decided to insult us? Does that make you feel like a big elf? {He pulls out a dog biscuit and throws it to the bearhound} Why did you have to spell your name backwards, turalisj? It's such an old trick.
Valarian's Beloved 12-29-04, 09:14 PM	How about we call him Anex for short. Verlansia nods in agreement as she wipes aways the images on the ground. Her amber eyes glowing through the hood of her cloak as she looks up to the new arrivals, brushing her hands together.
Aramar the Black 12-29-04, 11:00 PM	The Elf sitting by the tree, who had previously been lost in thought, now looks up to watch the promising interaction between the fey'ri and the newcomer. A small smile plays on his lips
Demonfey 12-30-04, 07:53 PM	Let's see, our current ranks are mainly elves, a woodling, a bearhound, and the unholy spawn of a demon and an unwilling elf, a.k.a me. And soon, a green dragon, probably of very young age if he is thinking of changing his name, is in charge. Anyone here interested in joining the elf foundation?
turalisj 12-30-04, 10:06 PM	"grr, do not tempt me you foolish demon. i should rip you to shreds for your mockery!" the bearhound roars in common. "behave my friend. you should forgive thier ignorance not attack them." the elf says to the great beast, trying to calm him down.the hound looks at the half demon, as if ready to shove the dog biscuit down his throat. :D
Demonfey 12-30-04, 10:16 PM	"grr, do not tempt me you foolish demon. i should rip you to shreds for your mockery!" the bearhound roars in common. "behave my friend. you should forgive thier ignorance not attack them." the elf says to the great beast, trying to calm him down.the hound looks at the half demon, as if ready to shove the dog biscuit down his throat. :D Sorry. Couldn't resist, Brawler. Besides, I don't think fire elemental tastes too good. {With that, brawler notices that Crowley has just changed his left hand into a gout of flame, and then turned it back.} Feel free to try shoving that biscuit down my throat. I know about your kind, and quite a few other species. I mock you simply to see your reaction. Here, have a cow. I know you like to hunt, but hey, a meal is a meal, right? And cow can taste good... {With that, Crowley opens a dimension door and a cow comes through.}
Aramar the Black 12-30-04, 10:30 PM	"Behave, little ones. We may be an interesting and diverse little family, but we are a family nonetheless. Let us be kind to one another. Save any anger for our enemies." With a smile, the elf leanes back and lets the otehr return to what they were doing.
Demonfey 12-31-04, 12:23 AM	"Behave, little ones. We may be an interesting and diverse little family, but we are a family nonetheless. Let us be kind to one another. Save any anger for our enemies." With a smile, the elf leanes back and lets the otehr return to what they were doing. Sorry. It's been millenia since I have had a moment of peace that didn't hold promises of nasty things about to happen to me or anyone around me.
baerdith 12-31-04, 09:24 AM	My idea (if it hasn't already been done) is to create an Alternate Bard that is closer to the forest. He would basically be like the standard Bard, but his spells would be more in tune with nature, and he would borrow some spells and abillities from the Druid and the Ranger. I'm currently trying to work out what spells to put on his spell list. But, so far, I've decided that he should at least have the Wild Empathy ability. What do you guys think? Hey Dyne, take a look at the 1st Ed Bard. This was the first PrC in D&D. It started as a fighter went to fifth or so level then switched to thief and went to seventh or so then became a Bard. The class got Languages everyother level, Lore every level and trained as a druid. It was a 23 level class and the bard hit 13th level Druid at level 23. I've seen variants that also gave wizard magic, my fav was a straight split half druid magic/half wizard magic this gave 7th level spells for both druid and wizard with the music and lore of the Bard, and the special abilities of the druid including shapechange.
baerdith 12-31-04, 09:40 AM	I was thinking that the Forest Bard cast Divine Spells, since he basically calls upon nature as a deity (at least, that's how I reason that Druids and Rangers use Divine magic). I'm thinking that his abilities would still be inspiring, but maybe in a sort of different way. When I think of a Forest Bard, I think of the cliched fife player who charms forest animals. I think we should create a custom spell list, using spells drawn from the Bard, Druid, and Ranger (as well as possibly some of those domains, if they're not already covered). My two coppers would be to also incude spells from the Sor/Wiz list in the schools of Enchantment, Illusion and Divination because these have always been the bread and butter of Bards in D&D and tradition. BTW have you seen the Sublime Chord? :dancin: :drool:
baerdith 12-31-04, 10:00 AM	I agree on the Forest Bard. The image I get somewhat resembles Fey creatures. I was thinking on getting rid of the Bardic Knowledge ability :eek: :ahem: Also, we could either nerf the Bardic Music ability :yuck: :rant: :headexplo :banghead: WHY???? BK is one of the traditional facets of the Bard. The Bard just KNOWS things. Why is it whenever anyone talks about changing a class they start off with "We can nerf....." You are making a class that is specialized THAT creates the balance, you are not going to take a Forest Bard into a dungeon or Urban Sprawl (or if you do you wouldn't get much mileage) so Why Nerf it just to give it extra abilities? When you specialize a wizard you cut out other sorces of magic, that is the balance. Think about it: Forest Wizard: Specialized Abjuration, banned Necromancy, and Illusion. Further specialized in 'nature' no 'unnatural' things and Spell thematics -Green leafy things. This would get +1 spells per level due to Spec. and a further +2 DC when in the forest, but would take a +2 penalty on DC and lose the +1 spell per level when out of the forest. This is perfectly balanced and you don't need to nerf the skillset or lose feats or change the hp ('course I think the lowest PC hp should be d6, but that is another story) You could even legitimately add more abilities, a blended familiar companion? low level wildshape (ie 1 per day as a 5th level druid)
Demonfey 12-31-04, 11:49 AM	Hey Dyne, take a look at the 1st Ed Bard. This was the first PrC in D&D. It started as a fighter went to fifth or so level then switched to thief and went to seventh or so then became a Bard. The class got Languages everyother level, Lore every level and trained as a druid. It was a 23 level class and the bard hit 13th level Druid at level 23. I've seen variants that also gave wizard magic, my fav was a straight split half druid magic/half wizard magic this gave 7th level spells for both druid and wizard with the music and lore of the Bard, and the special abilities of the druid including shapechange. Dyne just quit the boards.
Aramar the Black 12-31-04, 12:24 PM	BTW have you seen the Sublime Chord? :dancin: :drool: I looked at it, but I personally prefer the Seeker of the Song. No offense, but the actual Sublime Chord class seemed to lack the abilities I had expected of it. But, that's just my opinion. hey, beardith, what would you think if Bardic Music still existed inthe Forest Bard, but had slightly different effects?
turalisj 12-31-04, 02:33 PM	ya, like making the trees do a 2-step? :D
Aramar the Black 12-31-04, 03:36 PM	ya, like making the trees do a 2-step? :D Well, if the treants are good on thier feet. ;) :D
turalisj 12-31-04, 04:04 PM	or have the wood woads start singing the blues....... i could go on, but i won't.
baerdith 12-31-04, 04:33 PM	Dyne just quit the boards. :confused: Huh? WHY??
baerdith 12-31-04, 04:36 PM	I looked at it, but I personally prefer the Seeker of the Song. No offense, but the actual Sublime Chord class seemed to lack the abilities I had expected of it. But, that's just my opinion. hey, beardith, what would you think if Bardic Music still existed inthe Forest Bard, but had slightly different effects? I'm more of a spellslinger so I like the option of 9th level spells. Of course the IDEAL PrC would be BOTH.
Demonfey 12-31-04, 06:47 PM	:confused: Huh? WHY?? He decided that nothing would change with Sil.
turalisj 12-31-04, 08:31 PM	huh...... it seems sil has caused some recent problems..........
Frostbite_Ravenheart 01-02-05, 01:04 AM	huh...... it seems sil has caused some recent problems.......... Suddent seven seven giant eagles appear over head. Scores of carts blockade you in. Men dressed in black armed with cross bows propel down from the giant eagles, men with crossbows get out of the cart-blockade and use it as cover. *Alert* *Alert* The voice of dissisdants will not be tolerated. *Alert* * Alert* if you continue to speak such rabble you will be shot...or crossbowed... ________________________________________ _________________________ Anyways...shall we keep this foundation alive? I would like to join it myself...probably getting into one more foundation then I should but...who will lead it? May I suggest we do the natural thing and let it be a democracy or anarcy? No true leader...except for maby an IG leader. If we decide to keep this foundation alive even though Dyne is gone...I will post my IG introduction. -Frosty
Demonfey 01-02-05, 01:11 AM	Suddent seven seven giant eagles appear over head. Scores of carts blockade you in. Men dressed in black armed with cross bows propel down from the giant eagles, men with crossbows get out of the cart-blockade and use it as cover. *Alert* *Alert* The voice of dissisdants will not be tolerated. *Alert* * Alert* if you continue to speak such rabble you will be shot...or crossbowed... ________________________________________ _________________________ {With a few arcane words and gestures, they are all incinerated to ash with no damage done to the forest.} :P Anyways...shall we keep this foundation alive? I would like to join it myself...probably getting into one more foundation then I should but...who will lead it? May I suggest we do the natural thing and let it be a democracy or anarcy? No true leader...except for maby an IG leader. If we decide to keep this foundation alive even though Dyne is gone...I will post my IG introduction. -Frosty Sure, you can join. In the loss of Dyne, I vote for democracy with all of us having a say.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 01-02-05, 01:13 AM	{With a few arcane words and gestures, they are all incinerated to ash with no damage done to the forest.} :P Sure, you can join. In the loss of Dyne, I vote for democracy with all of us having a say. Good enough for me. I declare this realm a democracy. Also - You ********* beat me to it. I told you all in the H/E foundation long ago that I was building a "High Forest" like foundation. You twist my words and create a "Deep forest" foundation. What a rip off! One last thing - I saw Forest Bard under projects and I am willing to work on the prc with whoever is working on it. -Frosty
Demonfey 01-02-05, 01:21 AM	Good enough for me. I declare this realm a democracy. Also - You ********* beat me to it. I told you all in the H/E foundation long ago that I was building a "High Forest" like foundation. You twist my words and create a "Deep forest" foundation. What a rip off! One last thing - I saw Forest Bard under projects and I am willing to work on the prc with whoever is working on it. -Frosty 1. Alright 2. Not me 3. Talk to baerdith, turalisj, and Aramar the Black.
grimclaw 01-02-05, 02:03 AM	The bushes rustle and a large human in rough leather steps thru the trees a large double bitted wood axe on his shoulder,"Hello,names Bunyan,Paul Bunyun,any body seen a blue ox around here."He looks around for a moment,"No?Oh well guess I'll just have to keep looking.Nice forest by the way good lumber stock if your interested,you could make a nice bit of cash."Seeing the looks being directed at him he coughs uncomfortably,"Guess not.Oh,by the way if you see a dryad with tattoos and wearing combat boots would you tell her I'll be home right after I find Babe.Thanks."He then wanders off accasionly bellowing out,"Babe!!you big moron where are you?!" :D
Demonfey 01-02-05, 02:04 AM	The bushes rustle and a large human in rough leather steps thru the trees a large double bitted wood axe on his shoulder,"Hello,names Bunyan,Paul Bunyun,any body seen a blue ox around here."He looks around for a moment,"No?Oh well guess I'll just have to keep looking.Nice forest by the way good lumber stock if your interested,you could make a nice bit of cash."Seeing the looks being directed at him he coughs uncomfortably,"Guess not.Oh,by the way if you see a dryad with tattoos and wearing combat boots would you tell her I'll be home right after I find Babe.Thanks."He then wanders off accasionly bellowing out,"Babe!!you big moron where are you?!" :D Right.
grimclaw 01-02-05, 02:07 AM	sorry I couldnt help myself. :embarrass
Tenzhi 01-02-05, 02:25 AM	Ah, the jolly green forest giant and his half-ox blue dragon...
Demonfey 01-02-05, 08:14 PM	Ah, the jolly green forest giant and his half-ox blue dragon... Oy. Should I summon something to try and keep things like that from happening?
Mr_Grimm 01-04-05, 02:22 PM	As a ranger fanatic I am compelled by forces beyond my control to join this foundation. :blush:
Valarian's Beloved 01-04-05, 02:23 PM	Oy. Should I summon something to try and keep things like that from happening? The elven maiden draws her small white bronze freckled hand to her mouth to hide an escaping chuckle at Grimclaws comedic entrance. She looks to the ground, returning to writing strange designs and script in the earth. "Humor to a man is like a feather pillow. It is filled with what is easy to get but gives great comfort and a merry heart has a continual feast." The elf draws back the hazel twig, blows some loose grains from the script.
Demonfey 01-04-05, 03:15 PM	The elven maiden draws her small white bronze freckled hand to her mouth to hide an escaping chuckle at Grimclaws comedic entrance. She looks to the ground, returning to writing strange designs and script in the earth. "Humor to a man is like a feather pillow. It is filled with what is easy to get but gives great comfort and a merry heart has a continual feast." The elf draws back the hazel twig, blows some loose grains from the script. I'll take that as a no.
Mr_Grimm 01-04-05, 03:51 PM	Does one need a character to join the foundation?
Tenzhi 01-04-05, 04:12 PM	Does one need a character to join the foundation? Not at all - one merely needs to have a passion for whatever subject the individual foundation covers that one wishes to join. One only needs a character if one wants to participate in the Inter-Foundation Wargames.
Demonfey 01-04-05, 07:00 PM	Not at all - one merely needs to have a passion for whatever subject the individual foundation covers that one wishes to join. One only needs a character if one wants to participate in the Inter-Foundation Wargames. Or IG conversations. Kind of hard to talk amongst characters without one.
Tenzhi 01-04-05, 07:04 PM	Or IG conversations. Kind of hard to talk amongst characters without one. Not at all - I do it all the time.
Demonfey 01-04-05, 07:13 PM	Not at all - I do it all the time. Okay, point. But you tend to have some sort of avatar.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 01-05-05, 08:35 PM	I say this with all due respect Tenzhi, but your an exception to many a rules :rolleyes:. -Frosty
grimclaw 01-08-05, 03:34 AM	The elven maiden draws her small white bronze freckled hand to her mouth to hide an escaping chuckle at Grimclaws comedic entrance. She looks to the ground, returning to writing strange designs and script in the earth. "Humor to a man is like a feather pillow. It is filled with what is easy to get but gives great comfort and a merry heart has a continual feast." The elf draws back the hazel twig, blows some loose grains from the script. A black cloaked figure steps thru the brush,his face covered in a blank silver mask,the eye slits of which emit a subdued blue energy. The blades at his side are well worn and give a sensation of power. Saying nothing,he sits beside the elven lady and observes the writings she has composed for a time. Then seeing the question in her eyes,he speaks in a voice cold as winter stone,"A small time of peace before a return to the battles that are my curse fair lady." Hearing the bellowing of the strange human in the distance he seems faintly amused,"A sprite aquaintance of mine. Simplistix by name,he often takes on amusing personas using illusion. He occaisionally impersonates me wich I find somewhat annoying."He remains silent again for a few moments,once again watching her writing. Taking up a small stick,he makes a mark on the ground beside her,intricate and beautiful. It's meaning almost clear just by staring at it,"It is ancient,the writing of the first humans at the beginning. It means "maiden of the singing tree's". A gift for you as you seem to have a love of the calligraphers art." Saying no more he leans back against a tree and seems to sleep though he never fully relaxes.Even here peace true peace is an unachievable dream.
Tenzhi 01-08-05, 03:45 AM	I say this with all due respect Tenzhi, but your an exception to many a rules :rolleyes:. What can I say - it's a hobby. :P Say, this might be the perfect place to post a Dire Tree Sloth, Leaf Ray, and Driak... ::wanders off muttering about claws and stings::
turalisj 01-08-05, 01:59 PM	or to post a woodling half green dragon grey render and a tribe of hooded pupil woodling wood trolls...... :D (hooded puil is from liberis mortis, woodling is from mm3)
Demonfey 01-08-05, 02:22 PM	or to post a woodling half green dragon grey render and a tribe of hooded pupil woodling wood trolls...... :D (hooded puil is from liberis mortis, woodling is from mm3) But aren't woodlings normally druids that hate unnatural things like the undead?
turalisj 01-08-05, 02:47 PM	no, they are affected at birth by a magic native to the forest. and since the creatures type doesn't change, the troll could become a hooded pupil. :P and plus, a woodling half-green dragon grey render would be great to have around here! we would need to be on it's good side.... but with it's size, a grey render would be able to fly! imagine fighting it!
Valarian's Beloved 01-10-05, 06:36 AM	A black cloaked figure steps thru the brush,his face covered in a blank silver mask,the eye slits of which emit a subdued blue energy. The blades at his side are well worn and give a sensation of power. Saying nothing,he sits beside the elven lady and observes the writings she has composed for a time. Then seeing the question in her eyes,he speaks in a voice cold as winter stone,"A small time of peace before a return to the battles that are my curse fair lady." Hearing the bellowing of the strange human in the distance he seems faintly amused,"A sprite aquaintance of mine. Simplistix by name,he often takes on amusing personas using illusion. He occaisionally impersonates me wich I find somewhat annoying."He remains silent again for a few moments,once again watching her writing. Taking up a small stick,he makes a mark on the ground beside her,intricate and beautiful. It's meaning almost clear just by staring at it,"It is ancient,the writing of the first humans at the beginning. It means "maiden of the singing tree's". A gift for you as you seem to have a love of the calligraphers art." Saying no more he leans back against a tree and seems to sleep though he never fully relaxes.Even here peace true peace is an unachievable dream. The images Verlansia creates in the earth are of three characters, each corresponding to a tree and an associated meaning. They are surrounded by tensive curves and intricate knot work. She studies Grimclaw's mark for a few moments to memorize it in full detail, permanantly. The elven maiden half smiles as if containing some secret, whispering under her breath, "Peace is the well from which the stream of joy runs." Meanwhile, a red tree squirrel hurdles through the branches overhead, jumping from one limb to another scaling down the trunk of an old oak with a sprig of mistletoe and one of white heather in his tiny hand. He leaps onto Verlansia's shoulder then drops the sprigs to the ground in front of her. She takes them up examining them carefully in light. The elf then takes a small cruet of water and oil from her pack, bruises the herbs, and adds them to the mixture before returning it to her pack. The red squirrel waves his fluffy tail wildly while barking at turalisj. He then leaps into Verlansia's hood and crawls around the back of her neck. His little black eyes shining as he is peeking out the other side through her flame red curls.
baerdith 01-10-05, 11:27 PM	The Forest Bard Alignment: Any neutral. Hit Die: d6. Class Skills: The forest bard’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Balance (Dex), Bluff (Cha), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Decipher Script (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Disguise (Cha), Escape Artist (Dex), Gather Information (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Heal (Wis), Hide (Dex), Jump (Str), Knowledge (all skills, taken individually) (Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Perform (Cha), Profession (Wis), Sense Motive (Wis), Speak Language (n/a), Spellcraft (Int), Survival (Wis), and Swim (Str), Tumble (Dex), and Use Magic Device (Cha). Skill Points at 1st Level: (6 + Int modifier) x4. Skill Points at Each Additional Level: 6 + Int modifier. Class Features: Languages: The Forest Bard must take up tutelege with a Druid sometime before he reaches 3rd level. At this time he picks up the Druidic language. The Forest Bard also gains bonus languages at levels 6, 10, 14, 17 and 19. These must all be in the languages of the forest(ie: Slyvan, Fey, Satyr, Centaur, or animal). Weapon and Armor Proficiency: A forest bard is proficient with all simple weapons, plus the longsword, rapier, sap, short sword, shortbow, and whip. They are proficient with light armor and shields (except tower shields) and can cast bard spells while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance. However, like any other arcane spellcaster, if wearing medium or heavy armor or using a shield they incur a chance of arcane spell failure if the spell in question has a somatic component (most do). A multiclass forest bard still incurs the normal arcane spell failure chance for arcane spells received from other classes. Spells: A bard casts arcane spells, which are drawn from the bard spell list. He can cast any spell he knows without preparing it ahead of time. Every bard spell has a verbal component (singing, reciting, or music). To learn or cast a spell, a bard must have a Charisma score equal to at least 10 + the spell. The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a bard’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the bard’s Charisma modifier. Spells Known: +2 per bard level, replace all Summon Monster spells with Summon Nature's Ally spells Add the following to the Bard list: Create Water, Purify Food and Drink, Charm Animal, Easy Trail, Faerie Fire, Goodberry, Speak with Animals, Animal Messenger, Embrace the Wild, Hold Animal, Tree Shape, Wood Shape, Dominate Animal, Speak with Plants, Stone Shape, Animal Growth, Spike Stones, Commune With Nature, Hallow, UnHallow, Find the Path, Stone Tell. Spells per day: As Bard +1 spell for each spell level 0-6. Upon reaching 5th level, and at every third bard level after that (8th, 11th, and so on), a forest bard can choose to learn a new spell in place of one he already knows. The new spell’s level must be the same as that of the spell being exchanged, and it must be at least two levels lower than the highest-level bard spell the bard can cast. A bard may swap only a single spell at any given level, and must choose whether or not to swap the spell at the same time that he gains new spells known for the level. As noted above, a forest bard need not prepare his spells in advance. He can cast any spell he knows at any time, assuming he has not yet used up his allotment of spells per day for the spell’s level. Bardic Knowledge: A forest bard may make a special bardic knowledge check with a bonus equal to his bard level + his Intelligence modifier to see whether he knows some relevant information about local notable people, legendary items, or noteworthy places. At least 5 ranks in Knowledge Nature gives a +2 bonus on the check.Usually this knowledge is limited to a forest, but most forest bards have a store of ancient tales and can pull obscure historical facts almost out of the air. (If the forest bard has 5 or more ranks in Knowledge (history), he gains a +2 bonus on this check.) A successful bardic knowledge check will not reveal the powers of a magic item but may give a hint as to its general function. A bard may not take 10 or take 20 on this check; this sort of knowledge is essentially random. 1st Level Bardic Music, Bardic Knowledge, Wild Empathy, Nature Sense 2nd Counter Song, Fascinate, Animal Companion 3rd Inspire Courage +1, Bonus language: Druidic 4th Bonus Feat: Green Ear 5th Inspire competence, Woodland stride 6th Trackless Step , Bonus language 7th Suggestion, Resist nature’s lure 8th Wild shape (1/day) 9th Bonus Feat: Jack of All Trades 10th Bonus language 11th Inspire Courage +2 12th Song of Freedom 13th Inspire greatness 14th Bonus Feat: Obscure Lore, Bonus language 15th Song of Arcane Power (Sublime Chord ability) 16th Inspire Courage +3 17th Bonus language 18th Mass Suggestion 19th Bonus language 20th Bonus Feat: Chant of Fortitude --------------------------- Any Suggestions on making it better?
Aramar the Black 01-11-05, 10:13 AM	The wood elf agains observes his surroundings and fellow acolytes. "I believe that I could come to enjoy this place even more than I expected. Peace betweeen most persons billows forth like a welcome morning mist. yet, on that note, i must remember that pece can be a fragile thing, and must not be taken for granted. Anything may happen in a place like this." And with that he takes a dark-wooded arrow out of his pack, along with a small, glowing knife, and thoughtfully begins to carve the delicate missile. Beardith, I like the forest bard class of yours, but if you wouldn't mind, I drew up a version of my own as well. Let's compare for benificial reasons. I think both have good/interesting abilities. Forest Bard Alignment: Any Non-Lawful Hit Die: d6 Class Skills: The forest Bard's class skills (the the key abiltiy for each skill) are: Balance (Dex), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Escape Artist (Dex), handle Animal (Cha), Heal (Wis), Hide (Dex), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Arcana, Geography, Nature; all skills taken individually) (Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Perform (Cha), Profession (Wis), Ride (Dex), Speak Language (n/a), Spellcraft (Int), Spot (Wis), Survival (Wis), and Swim (Str), and Tumble (Dex) Skill Points at 1st Level: (6 + Int modifier) x4. Skill Points at Each Additional Level: 6 + Int modifier. Class Features 1st: Bardic Music, Verdant Knowlege, fasinate, Gift of Nature 2nd 3rd: Inspire Nature's Courage +1 4th 5th 6th: Gift of Nature 7th 8th: Inspire Nature's Courage +2 9th: Suggestion 10th 11th 12th: Gift of Nature 13th 14th: Inspire Nature's Courage +3 15th: Song of Freedom 16th 17th 18th: Gift of Nature 19th 20th: Inspire Nature's Courage +4 Class Abilities Spellcasting: A forest bard casts a small number of arcane spells, some of which are or resembel natureistic spells. As such, the Forest Bard knows the same amount of spells, but has one less spell slot per day per level. (Ex. While a 19th lvl. bard may cast 3 6th lvl spells per day, the Forest ard only casts 2.) However, the Forest Bard may choose a clerical domain from he gains up to the 6th level spell. The domains he may choose from are: Animal, Plant, and Sun. (more may be allowed according the DM and campiagn options) Having the abilitiy to cast out of domain replace the lost spell per day. Verdent knowledge: While the forest bard may travel to somewhat less places than the average bard, he still collects a wellspring of knowlege from nature. This ability functions like the Draconic Knowledge feat, except that all possible DC deacrease are gone, to be replaces by the following: a DC decrease of -5 if the individual if a Drd, Rng, Brb, of forest bard. And a DC decrease of -5 if the character lives in the area. Fasinate: As the original bardic abiltiy Suggestion: As the original bardic abiltiy Song of Freedom: As the original bardic ability, except for the following: Lvl 15, Perform Ranks 18, and it create the effects of the spell Freedom of Movement as well. Inspire Nature's Courage: This works like the original bardic abiltiy, but it effects all animals, magical beasts, or plant creatures that can hear the Forest Bard. Gift of Nature: -Animal Companion: This functions like the Ranger abiitiy of the same name. Note that a Foest bard may have more than one animal companian. -Wildshape: Only a Forest Bard of at least 6th level may choose this abiltiy. This functions like the 5th level druid abilitiy. A Forest bard may chose this ability multiple times, allowing an extra use per day each time, and the abiltiy to wildshape into large creature, and then a plant-like creature the third time this gift is chosen. -Wild Empathy: As the Drd. ability of the same name. -Woodland Stride: As the Drd. abilitiy of the same name. -Resist Nature's Lure: A the Drd. abilitiy of the same name. -Song of the Forest: grants and aditional domain -Secret of the Fey: +2 bonus on Move Silently, Swim, or Spot checks. Also grants knowledge of the Sylvan language. -Secret of Nature: metamagic feat A rough draft yet, and I don't have a clue what spell options should. I like your spell list though, beardith.
baerdith 01-12-05, 06:36 PM	Aramar: I like the Inspire Nature's Courage. I am not familiar with the Draconic Knowledge, so I can't comment. The Gifts of Nature are intriguing, but I feel they are a bit limiting. I llike some of the abilities, but 4 slots for eight abilities just doesn't feel right. The alignment I feel has to retain some neutralilty ( I know, but I'm a 1e and 2e player from waaay back ;) )
Aramar the Black 01-13-05, 02:23 PM	Yeah, as I was posting the class, I relized that I proably didn't have enough gift of nature slots. This comes from my modeling this class off the Core Bard, so i only have abilities at the levels the Core Bard had abilities. i was afraid of making it overpowered. And I have been trying to think of more interesting Gifts of Nature, but making them bard-oriented made the task a little harder. As for alignment, I was thinking about only allowing nuetral evil, chaotic nuetral, nuetral, or neutral good. I think some nuetrality would be important, but I can't really envision a Lawful nuetral Forest Bard. To comment on your version: What praytell, are the bonus feats you offer? I've only ever heard of Green Ear, I think. But the many druid/nautre oriented abilities gives it a nice feel.
baerdith 01-13-05, 06:27 PM	To comment on your version: What praytell, are the bonus feats you offer? I've only ever heard of Green Ear, I think. But the many druid/nautre oriented abilities gives it a nice feel. I've just aquired Complete Adventurer. They are some Bardic Feats located there. Green Ear: Affect Plants with your Bardic Music Ability. Jack of All Trades: Use any Skill, even "Trained Only" as of 1/2 rank. Obscure Lore: Gain +4 bonus on Bardic Knowledge checks. Chant of Fortitude: Bardic Music gives allies the Diehard Feat. Song of Arcane Power: Next Spell cast has a bonus based on Perform check.
Quarion Liadon 01-14-05, 12:13 AM	Like the trees of the forest, this community has grown and thrived, even with the absence of the Guardian of the Forest. But, fear not, for the guardian may return. It's good to see this foundation is still around and doing well. On the Forest Bard: I never thought of giving it Wild Shape. I've never heard of a Forest Bard in pulp fiction having that ability, and I think it's exclusive to Druids. I would prefer that the Wild Shape ability be replaced with something more relevant. Probably the most notable feature of a Forest Bard is his ability to call and charm animals. Perhaps the Bardic Music ability could be adjusted so that a Forest Bard's Fascinate and Suggestion abilities only function on forest creatures, but he would gain those abilities earlier. The Forest Bard might have a Summon Nature's Ally ability built into the class aside from spells. I was thinking that a Forest Bard have an Animal Companion, exactly like a Druid. Since Forest Bard's excel at charming animals, he would be just as good (if not better) at attracting and keeping an Animal Companion as a Druid. So, I don't think he should receive a penalty for an Animal Companion like a Ranger does. And that was an interesting idea on the Domains, Aramar. EDIT: Also, the Forest Bard should probably have some restriction against using metal armor, like a Druid.
Tenzhi 01-14-05, 12:48 AM	On the Forest Bard: I never thought of giving it Wild Shape. I've never heard of a Forest Bard in pulp fiction having that ability, and I think it's exclusive to Druids. I would prefer that the Wild Shape ability be replaced with something more relevant. Probably the most notable feature of a Forest Bard is his ability to call and charm animals. Perhaps the Bardic Music ability could be adjusted so that a Forest Bard's Fascinate and Suggestion abilities only function on forest creatures, but he would gain those abilities earlier. The Forest Bard might have a Summon Nature's Ally ability built into the class aside from spells. I agree with this entire notion. Call it Wild Song if you like, but it reminds me of Tarzan. ;)
Aramar the Black 01-14-05, 10:19 AM	@ Quarion: Well, I thought that giving the Forest Bard limites wildshape abilties added a nice twist. And now apparently something new and outisde the usual lines of thinking. And the Gift of nature abilties I give let the Forest Bard slightly custimize his abilties, so a Forest Bard who studied the "Song of the Animals" and spent a lot of time with the creatures of the forest gains the limited abilites to become like his dearest friends. I'll consider the druid animal companion ability. I had thought about the abiltiy to charm animals, that that started to come out as the Inspire Nature's Courage. But maybe suggestion and fasinate could work on animals as well? You see, one of my visions of the Forest Bard (most likely the CN version) was a musician of the forest, playing little tricks and such with un-forest folk. That that translates to me as keeping the fascinate and suggestion abilties working on common folk and such. So that the Bard can entice people with the sound of nature, play playful tricks on thier enemies, or just charm poeple to come in and join in the dance.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 01-14-05, 05:19 PM	I like the idea Aramar but prehaps we should take it futhur and eventually devlop the class to have the ability to talk and influence beasts, magical beats and even plants. Just my opinion -Frosty
Quarion Liadon 01-14-05, 11:07 PM	My "vision" of the Forest Bard's abilities would have focused more on Enchantment effects than anything. The Forest Bard would excel at charming, especially animals. He could also pull minor tricks, but he really comes into his own with enchantments. Perhaps instead of the Nature's Gift abilities, you could instead have a focus for the Character Class. Some focusses might include more of a Druid approach (which would include the Wild Shape ability), one would be the animal charmer, one would the the satyr-like trickster, another might be a more militant bard who works music to inspire his allies to battle, and leading the fight for the forest. To allow the Wild Shape ability to any and every Forest Bard kinda cheapens the ability, in my opinion. Druids are known specifically for their Wild Shape ability. Even outside of D&D, Wild Shape is a Druid's trademark. It represents a closeness to nature to the extent that the Druid becomes one with nature. A non-Druid using a Druid-specific ability makes my head swim, unless of course the character chose a particular focus that would basically make him a Druid that could sing pretty. I do very much like the idea of allowing a customizable class to suit the needs of the characters. This is how I think all of D&D should be, instead of multiclassing being a necessity to make a character totally unique and fit a certain style. The system might work like this: At 1st-level, the Forest Bard chooses a focus that will determine his abilities, and his strengths and weaknesses. Every so many levels, he can either increase in his abilities of that particular focus or, if he desires more adaptability, he could choose another focus.
baerdith 01-15-05, 06:54 PM	On the Forest Bard: I never thought of giving it Wild Shape. I've never heard of a Forest Bard in pulp fiction having that ability, and I think it's exclusive to Druids. Historically (and in first ed ;)) Bards were a subset of Druid. In the Legends of the Celts there is virtually no distinction made between Druids and Bards. And there are many cases of Bards shape changing (look at Taliesin). As for the armor, Rangers can wear any why not Forest Bards? Druids are the only ones who take the spiritual oaths. Edit: I think the Forest Bard should get Druidic language too. What do you guys think?
Aramar the Black 01-17-05, 12:56 PM	I was considering the druidic language for the Forest Bard, but seeing ow rangers don't get it, I was tentative with this class. As, a matter of fact, Quarion, when creating the class, and the Gift of Nature abilties, I was a think of a design similar to Szatany's ultimate Classes, which features custimizable abilites. But I wasn't sure if we/I had enough ideas and abilties to actualy create paths for the Forest Bard. Hence, the Gifts of Nature, and a way for one to create his own kind of path. He who chose Wildshape when ever he gets the chance is the Druid-assosite, he who chooses animal companions would be like the animal charmer/friend, and he who choose Gifts such as Song of the Forest and Secret of Nature would be those who delve into the Great Lore of nature, eschewing much of a social life. A hermit. But, if we could develope individual paths, that would be very cool. And those who chose the "Druid-assosiate" path could maybe learn the Druidic language. (although, is we go through with this, and the many more ideas that are out there, like the Cantor, and make them all ultimate classes, along with those in teh supplemant books, a single campaign could have about 20-30 core classes, each with at least 5 paths. that makes 100-150 different "class" options for the character to choose from, and THEN he gets to go and custumize. Fun, no? :D :) )
Valarian's Beloved 01-17-05, 02:47 PM	Red tree squirrel leaps from her shoulder to the ground. He stands very still save his fuffly tail shifting occassionally while listening to the conversations. He scampers back onto the trunk of a tree. The red tree squirrel remains motionless for a few moments then scales back up to the tree tops. The elven maiden takes out an old leather bound book with yellowed pages and makes a few notations.
Quarion Liadon 01-19-05, 03:21 PM	What happened to all the smilies?! They've changed.... Anyway, Dyne is coming back to take care of the foundation.
Dyne 01-19-05, 03:37 PM	A form glides down from the canopy and lands on the forest floor. You see that it is a young green dragon. Specifically, you recognize him as Anextlomarus, the Guardian of the Forest. "It has been far too long since I have been able to converse with my fellow creatures of the forest. Sadly, pressing matters have taken my attention, and I have been on many a quest to settle these matters. My business is not settled, however. I am here only for a short time. I come to let you know I am well and to settle a few things here. First is that there never was an intended leader of the forest. I have never claimed lordship over the woodland creatures, only guardianship. It is good to see that this realm has settled into a peaceful democracy. I will be going away shortly. When I shall return, I do not know. Until I do, though, look to Quarion Liadon for guidance in my stead. I trust him with my life, and I know that he will be good to you. This is good bye, then. I shall see you all again as soon as I can." With that, the green dragon beats his wings and soars away to the distance. It's been a long while. It's good to see this foundation is still alive. And Frostbite, I didn't get the idea from you because I haven't visited the Half-Elven Foundation in a LONG time. I began this foundation of my own design. Welcome Mr_Grimm and Frostbite_Ravenheart, new members (since I've been gone). I'll edit the members list now. I may be here for keeps, and I may not. In the meantime, treat Quarion Liadon as your leader (in times in which you will need a leader). I may post up a Forest Bard class in a little bit. It's good to see you all again. :)
Demonfey 01-19-05, 08:11 PM	A form glides down from the canopy and lands on the forest floor. You see that it is a young green dragon. Specifically, you recognize him as Anextlomarus, the Guardian of the Forest. "It has been far too long since I have been able to converse with my fellow creatures of the forest. Sadly, pressing matters have taken my attention, and I have been on many a quest to settle these matters. My business is not settled, however. I am here only for a short time. I come to let you know I am well and to settle a few things here. First is that there never was an intended leader of the forest. I have never claimed lordship over the woodland creatures, only guardianship. It is good to see that this realm has settled into a peaceful democracy. I will be going away shortly. When I shall return, I do not know. Until I do, though, look to Quarion Liadon for guidance in my stead. I trust him with my life, and I know that he will be good to you. This is good bye, then. I shall see you all again as soon as I can." With that, the green dragon beats his wings and soars away to the distance. It's been a long while. It's good to see this foundation is still alive. And Frostbite, I didn't get the idea from you because I haven't visited the Half-Elven Foundation in a LONG time. I began this foundation of my own design. Welcome Mr_Grimm and Frostbite_Ravenheart, new members (since I've been gone). I'll edit the members list now. I may be here for keeps, and I may not. In the meantime, treat Quarion Liadon as your leader (in times in which you will need a leader). I may post up a Forest Bard class in a little bit. It's good to see you all again. :) It's Dyne! :w00t: :dancin:
baerdith 01-19-05, 09:24 PM	Welcome Mr_Grimm and Frostbite_Ravenheart, new members (since I've been gone). I'll edit the members list now. Meybe ya cud add another to that there list?? Welcome back, Dyne. :rimshot:
Dyne 01-19-05, 10:42 PM	Whoops, sorry baerdith. Added you to the list. What was that rimshot for?
Dyne 01-20-05, 12:41 AM	Here's what I've gotten for a Forest Bard so far: Handle Animal, Heal, Ride, Spot, and Survival added to class skills. Animal Companion as a Druid. Wild Empathy at 1st level. Woodland Stride at 7th level. Bardic Music ability is instead called Natural Music, and only functions in a forest or on a forest creature (a creature with forests listed as its environment). So far, I've gotten that it will basically be the same as the regular bard except for a few extra Druid abilities and a restriction on Bardic Music. However, the spell list will be completely different. I'm not completely sure how I'm going to do that.
Tenzhi 01-20-05, 01:24 AM	The Driak (medium dragon) Hit Dice: 5d12+10 (28 hp) Initiative: +5 (+1 Dex, +4 Improved Initiative) Speed: 40 ft. Armor Class: 15 (+1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 14 Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+9 Attack: 1 Bite +9 melee (1d8+4) Full Attack: 1 Bite +9 melee (1d8+4) and 2 claws +4 melee (1d6+2) Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: Breath Weapon Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/cold iron, tree dependent Saves: Fort +6, Ref +5, Will +6 Abilities: Str 19, Dex 12, Con 15, Int 6, Wis 15, Cha 7 Skills: Spot +9, Listen +8, Climb +9, Hide +6, Move Silently +6 Feats: Improved Initiative, Alertness Environment: Temperate forests Organization: Solitary Challenge Rating: Treasure: Standard Alignment: Usually chaotic neutral Advancement: 6 HD (Medium), 7-9 HD (Large) Level Adjustment: -- Not all tree spirits are pretty little pictures of sylvanesque grace and beauty. There are those that are a bit primordial in nature, with jaws that bite and claws that catch. The driak is such a creature. Living deep in the heart of the forest, the rarely-encountered driak is a serpentine, dragon-like creature. It is covered in polished, wooden scales from its toothy maw to the tip of its whip-like tail. Older driak tend to have moss, lichen, and tree fungi of various sorts growing on their bodies. Combat: The driak is a hunter, preferring to attack its prey from ambush. Such attacks are generally territorial in nature, as the driak draws nourishment from its tree. It will occasionally supplement its diet with raw meat and insects, sharing such nourishment in turn with its tree. Breath Weapon (Su): A driak has two types of breath weapon - a 30' long cone of thorns and needles that does 2d4 points of piercing damage, and a cone of poisonous leaves 30' long. Creatures caught in the cone of leaves take no damage but are afflicted with the condition irritated for 1d4 days if they fail a Fortitude saving throw (DC 14). Irritated is a condition of general discomfort which causes the afflicted creature to take a -1 penalty on all attack rolls and skill checks. Tree Dependent (Su): Each driak is mystically bound to a single, enormous hardwood tree and must never stray more than 500 yards from it. Any who do become ill and die within 4d6 hours. A driak’s tree does not radiate magic.
turalisj 01-20-05, 07:04 AM	wow, a dryad crossed with a wyrmling green dragon.......
turalisj 01-20-05, 02:00 PM	check this prc out link (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2)
Tenzhi 01-20-05, 06:07 PM	wow, a dryad crossed with a wyrmling green dragon....... Other than the fact that it looks nothing like a green dragon, doesn't have the same kind of breath weapon as a green dragon, doesn't have any of the green dragon's special abilities, and isn't in fact even green. They have the Dragon type in common, but a lot of things have that type that have no relation to the green dragon. It is undeniably a draconic creature based around the same tree spirit concept as the driad. More specifically, it takes the generic concept of the drake and merges it with the tree spirit concept. And incidentally, the spellthief is a base class, not a PrC.
Demonfey 01-20-05, 06:14 PM	Other than the fact that it looks nothing like a green dragon, doesn't have the same kind of breath weapon as a green dragon, doesn't have any of the green dragon's special abilities, and isn't in fact even green. They have the Dragon type in common, but a lot of things have that type that have no relation to the green dragon. It is undeniably a draconic creature based around the same tree spirit concept as the driad. More specifically, it takes the generic concept of the drake and merges it with the tree spirit concept. And incidentally, the spellthief is a base class, not a PrC. Sounds like an interesting creature. Haven't you noticed that the complete (insert component phrase here) all have an oriental based class, a battle built class, and a spell slinger base class?
baerdith 01-20-05, 07:38 PM	Whoops, sorry baerdith. Added you to the list. What was that rimshot for? Cause I like it? It's the only 'music' smilie.
Tenzhi 01-21-05, 12:19 AM	Haven't you noticed that the complete (insert component phrase here) all have an oriental based class, a battle built class, and a spell slinger base class? I hadn't paid attention to the fact until you just mentioned it. To be honest, Complete Adventurer is the only one I've looked at very closely. I like all three of the base classes it presents, but I think the scout is my favourite. Conceptually I really like the spellthief, but as a player I prefer to keep things relatively simple and spell-free.
Kingside_Bishop 01-24-05, 03:19 AM	You find a blank sticking out of the ground just outside of your forest... blank, except for three symbols... Upon examination, there appears to be a message written in ink visible only to the arcane eye... -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~--~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ךּבֿסּ The Shadow's Breath and Blade The Contract TermsHerein lie the terms that all patrons of the Assassin's Guild must agree to when contracting a task. All contracts are considered binding by the Assassin's Guild. The contracting guild agrees to pay the Assassin’s Guild an amount determined by the Assassin’s Guild, which will be disclosed before the pact is made, and which will be paid upon completion of the contract. Half of this amount is kept by the Assassin’s Guild, while the other half is paid directly to the assassin performing the task. The Assassin’s Guild agrees to perform the agreed upon task during the month specified by the contracting guild. If a month is not specified, the Assassin’s Guild will perform the task within three months. The contracting guild may request a specific assassin to perform the task, but this increases the cost of the task, administered by increasing the cost Multiplier of the contract by one. In the event that the Assassin’s Guild does not complete the task, the contracting guild receives a single reduction in the cost of one future contract, administered by reducing the cost Multiplier of said contract by one. If a party does not fulfill its contract obligations (by not paying the Assassin's Guild the agreed upon amount), they are subject to full persecution by the Assassin's Guild.The Price GuideThe Assassin’s Guild requires payment for its services. The cost of this payment will vary depending on the difficulty of the agreed upon task. Following is a guide for the pricing of assignments. Assignments are classified into three distinct groups. Each group has a corresponding Base Price and a set of possible Mulitpliers. To find the cost of a potential task, multiply the Base Cost by the total Multipliers. A task always costs at least as much as the Base Price, regardless of Mulitipliers.Espionage:Base Cost: 5,000 gp Multipliers: +1 per article of information contracted for, if information is specific +1 per 2 months of assignment, if assignment is on-going +1 per 3 members below 10 assigned guild has +1 per 5 ranks of Sense Motive assigned guild's Guild Master hasSabotage:Base Cost: 7,500 gp Multipliers:+1 per target item, holding, etc. if target(s) are specific +1 per month of assignment, if assignment is on going +1 per 3 members above 3 assigned guild has +1 per 5 ranks of Spot/Listen (whichever is higher) target guild's Guildmaster has +1 if target item, holding, etc. is protected from dimensional travelAssassination:Base Cost: 10,000 gp Mulitipliers: +1 per 2 levels of the target above 13 +1 per 5 ranks of Spot/Listen (whichever is higher) target has +1 per 5 points of Fortitude Save bonus beyond +5 target has. +1 per 5 points of Will Save bonus beyond +5 target has. +1 if target is protected from dimensional travel +3 if target is immune to critical hitsContracting an AssassinTo contract an assassin for the performance of a task, an individual (acting on his own or representing a guild) must contact the Guildmaster of the Assassin's Guild in a private communication detailing the nature of the proposed contract. The Guildmaster will then respond to the contracting individual in a similarly private communication, detailing the price of the contract. If the contracting affirms the contract through a final communication, the Guildmaster will then dispatch an assassin of his choosing to perform the contracted task. A party may request a specific assassin whose work they know, but this increases the price of the contract. Because the name of the assassin performing a task is never given to the contracting party, they must describe any taks that the specific assassin has done to contract for that assassin. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~--~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Dyne 01-24-05, 09:43 PM	*A forest creature rips the note out of the ground and disposes of it* "We don't cause trouble, and we certainly don't want to borrow any. You will find no welcome here."
Aramar the Black 01-24-05, 10:02 PM	Well, not as assassins looking for buisness, anyway. If you can come as peace-abiding beings, who will revel in the forest, and not use it for any sinister purposes, then I may give you welcome.
Dyne 01-29-05, 09:53 AM	:bump: We need to discuss the Forest Bard's spell list. For starters, I think the Summon Monster spells should be replaced with Summon Nature's ally spells. Also, I had an idea to make the Forest Bard more specialized. When beginning the class, a Forest Bard must choose a climate that he specializes in. These might include Mountains/Earth, Water, and Air for starters. Might also put in Vermin and Animals, if all the animal spells aren't put into the regular list anyway.
baerdith 01-29-05, 04:08 PM	:bump: We need to discuss the Forest Bard's spell list. For starters, I think the Summon Monster spells should be replaced with Summon Nature's ally spells. Also, I had an idea to make the Forest Bard more specialized. When beginning the class, a Forest Bard must choose a climate that he specializes in. These might include Mountains/Earth, Water, and Air for starters. Might also put in Vermin and Animals, if all the animal spells aren't put into the regular list anyway. Take a look at my spell-list.
Silmarien Aldalome 01-30-05, 05:47 AM	The seven polls are out - they are: 1. Portal Concepts for the Inter-Foundation Games-II (ignore the other one) (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371737) 2. PC Concepts-II (ignore the other one) (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371732) 3. Frameworks for Overarching Rules (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371740) 4. Black Operations (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371743) 5. Newcomers, Recruits and Managing Level Variation (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371744) 6. Roles, Hierarchies and In-Game Promotion Opportunities (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371747) 7. In-Game Rewards and Penalties (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371748) My apologies for the error in the Portals thread (that meant I had to close Ver1 of it) and for the second thread, I closed (I couldn't edit polls, after they're cut). I'll see if I can get the URLs and post them here. regards stav
Aramar the Black 01-31-05, 09:32 PM	As to the Forest Bard; Climates: An interesting idea. (You know, like I might have said before, this optional path class format could get really crazy). How about Mountian, Verdent, Aquatic, Air, Tundra, Earth, and maybe Hills. And baerdith, on your Forest Bard; why all the bonus languages?
baerdith 02-01-05, 08:34 PM	And baerdith, on your Forest Bard; why all the bonus languages? Bards have a natural affinity for learning languages, look at the 1e Bard every other level they can learn a new language, so I carried it over. If I didn't say it, they all have to be 'woodland' languages (i.e. Faerie, Centaur, Nymph, 'animal' etc.)
Frostbite_Ravenheart 02-01-05, 09:21 PM	I gotta say Ara - I strongly disagree with the climate idea. Heres why: I've always seen the regular bard one who travels great distances all over. I see this new forest bard as one who travels even more, being more comfortable in the wilderness and being able to explore every step of the way. Cities differ slighty here and there but nature can differ greatly and its alot easier to find something strange and unique in all the open world, then in a few closed citys. Just my opinion, -Frosty
Aramar the Black 02-01-05, 10:46 PM	I gotta say Ara - I strongly disagree with the climate idea. Heres why: I've always seen the regular bard one who travels great distances all over. I see this new forest bard as one who travels even more, being more comfortable in the wilderness and being able to explore every step of the way. Cities differ slighty here and there but nature can differ greatly and its alot easier to find something strange and unique in all the open world, then in a few closed citys. Just my opinion, -Frosty Fine, but two things: 1. It wasn't my idea, it was Dyne's 2. I think I missed something, but your reason why doesn't seem to be a reason for disagreeing with the idea. Not saying you don't have a good reason for disagreeing with it, but could you maybe clarify your reason? I'm very sorry, but I don't get it.
Valarian's Beloved 02-01-05, 11:40 PM	The elven maiden continues to make notations, taking a moment to look up from the old book and wait for the reply to an interesting question. She nods in agreement to the forest creature ripping the note out of the ground and disposing of it.
Demonfey 02-02-05, 03:09 PM	{Looking at the group, Crowley flies up to a branch above him, pulls out a hat from apparently no where, and takes a nap.
baerdith 02-02-05, 08:17 PM	Fine, but two things: 1. It wasn't my idea, it was Dyne's 2. I think I missed something, but your reason why doesn't seem to be a reason for disagreeing with the idea. Not saying you don't have a good reason for disagreeing with it, but could you maybe clarify your reason? I'm very sorry, but I don't get it. The way I see it, Forests are only really in one 'climate' ( you could argue underwater forests, but why?) so why 'specialize'?
Dyne 02-02-05, 09:07 PM	I gotta say Ara - I strongly disagree with the climate idea. Heres why: I've always seen the regular bard one who travels great distances all over. I see this new forest bard as one who travels even more, being more comfortable in the wilderness and being able to explore every step of the way. Cities differ slighty here and there but nature can differ greatly and its alot easier to find something strange and unique in all the open world, then in a few closed citys. Just my opinion, -Frosty The whole purpose of it was mainly just an excuse to give the Forest Bard a few more abilities. Otherwise, either the spell list wouldn't change much or it would be unbalanced from adding too many new spells to it. To me at least, most of the regular Bard spells work fine for the Forest Bard as well, so it's pointless to add them. And Baerdith, forests actually exist in many climates. There are rain forests around the equator, pine forests at the northern latitudes, forests atop high mountains, etc. Forests don't exist in EVERY climate, but it was just an idea to make the class able to be more specialized. Perhaps one Forest Bard is from a forest in the valley between two mountains where it is windy. So, he might have a few elemental air abilities. One forest might exist in a very wet environment, or even a swamp. A Forest Bard from here might specialize more in elemental water. One Forest Bard might live atop a mountain of both trees and stone. He might have some elemental earth abilities. A Forest Bard could be from a pine forest up north. Perhaps he has some cold abilities. Etc. Perhaps "climate" was a bad way to describe it.
Valarian's Beloved 02-02-05, 10:31 PM	Verlansia takes note of the changes and contiues to listen and observe. The red tree squirrel returns and sits upon his hind legs very still, looking to her with dark shining eyes. She smiles, holding out a piece of dried fruit from her pack.
Dyne 02-02-05, 10:34 PM	Valarian's Beloved, you are the only person I have met that lets us all know that you're still around, even while having no comment to make. For that, I thank you. :bow:
baerdith 02-07-05, 10:26 PM	And Baerdith, forests actually exist in many climates. I'll buy that, however are there Druids for different climates? As far as the spell list the Bard is so restricted to spells anyway, it isn't unbalancing to add spells. Heck you could give the bard every spell in the book and it would barely unbalance the class because even with the modifications made to the spells known number the average bard will still only know about 6-9 spells per level - ever (barring multiple uses of Extra Spell of course but burning feats....)
Kingside_Bishop 02-08-05, 01:18 AM	If the following font is too difficult to read, here is the RP in regular formatting:A glade in the deep forest sits silent... naturally beautiful and undisturbed. Green trees flutter in the breeze, and a creek can be heard travelling through the clearing. To the north, tall, cold mountains rise against the horizon. You hear the sound of air rushing through beating wings, and suddenly a huge Giant Eagle lands carefully in the clearing. Her wingspan must be fifty feet across, a trule beautifuyl being with glistening silver feathers. Astride her neck sits a being of frost giant lineage, although there appears to be some human in him as well. He has pale blue skin and deep azure hair, and strapped to his back is a giant warhammer. He jumps lithely down from the eagle's back. He towers a massive twelve feet tall. The eagle bends her neck down towards the giant, and he carresses her head, speaking into her ear. The ice covered mountains to the north catch the giant's attention, and a faraway look comes to his eye... "With any luck, Clacialis, my wife, our new home may be found there..." He points to a distant peak, among the highest, and bordered by the upper reaches of this forest. Then, sets down to the giant's left, a half-celestial of regal bearing. The giant speaks, with a twinkle of pride in his. "I told you she was fast." He smiles, and looks around the clearing, where James said they could find shelter, and a populace of welcoming individuals who would listen to their most important message...A glade in the deep forest sits silent... naturally beautiful and undisturbed. Green trees flutter in the breeze, and a creek can be heard travelling through the clearing. To the north, tall, cold mountains rise against the horizon. You hear the sound of air rushing through beating wings, and suddenly a huge Giant Eagle lands carefully in the clearing. Her wingspan must be fifty feet across, a trule beautifuyl being with glistening silver feathers. Astride her neck sits a being of frost giant lineage, although there appears to be some human in him as well. He has pale blue skin and deep azure hair, and strapped to his back is a giant warhammer. He jumps lithely down from the eagle's back. He towers a massive twelve feet tall. The eagle bends her neck down towards the giant, and he carresses her head, speaking into her ear. The ice covered mountains to the north catch the giant's attention, and a faraway look comes to his eye... "With any luck, Clacialis, my wife, our new home may be found there..." He points to a distant peak, among the highest, and bordered by the upper reaches of this forest. Then, sets down to the giant's left, a half-celestial of regal bearing. The giant speaks, with a twinkle of pride in his. "I told you she was fast." He smiles, and looks around the clearing, where James said they could find shelter, and a populace of welcoming individuals who would listen to their most important message...
Demonfey 02-08-05, 05:28 PM	If the following font is too difficult to read, here is the RP in regular formatting:A glade in the deep forest sits silent... naturally beautiful and undisturbed. Green trees flutter in the breeze, and a creek can be heard travelling through the clearing. To the north, tall, cold mountains rise against the horizon. You hear the sound of air rushing through beating wings, and suddenly a huge Giant Eagle lands carefully in the clearing. Her wingspan must be fifty feet across, a trule beautifuyl being with glistening silver feathers. Astride her neck sits a being of frost giant lineage, although there appears to be some human in him as well. He has pale blue skin and deep azure hair, and strapped to his back is a giant warhammer. He jumps lithely down from the eagle's back. He towers a massive twelve feet tall. The eagle bends her neck down towards the giant, and he carresses her head, speaking into her ear. The ice covered mountains to the north catch the giant's attention, and a faraway look comes to his eye... "With any luck, Clacialis, my wife, our new home may be found there..." He points to a distant peak, among the highest, and bordered by the upper reaches of this forest. Then, sets down to the giant's left, a half-celestial of regal bearing. The giant speaks, with a twinkle of pride in his. "I told you she was fast." He smiles, and looks around the clearing, where James said they could find shelter, and a populace of welcoming individuals who would listen to their most important message...A glade in the deep forest sits silent... naturally beautiful and undisturbed. Green trees flutter in the breeze, and a creek can be heard travelling through the clearing. To the north, tall, cold mountains rise against the horizon. You hear the sound of air rushing through beating wings, and suddenly a huge Giant Eagle lands carefully in the clearing. Her wingspan must be fifty feet across, a trule beautifuyl being with glistening silver feathers. Astride her neck sits a being of frost giant lineage, although there appears to be some human in him as well. He has pale blue skin and deep azure hair, and strapped to his back is a giant warhammer. He jumps lithely down from the eagle's back. He towers a massive twelve feet tall. The eagle bends her neck down towards the giant, and he carresses her head, speaking into her ear. The ice covered mountains to the north catch the giant's attention, and a faraway look comes to his eye... "With any luck, Clacialis, my wife, our new home may be found there..." He points to a distant peak, among the highest, and bordered by the upper reaches of this forest. Then, sets down to the giant's left, a half-celestial of regal bearing. The giant speaks, with a twinkle of pride in his. "I told you she was fast." He smiles, and looks around the clearing, where James said they could find shelter, and a populace of welcoming individuals who would listen to their most important message... {Crowley's ears twitch in his sleep, and he opens an eye with a goat like pupil under his hat.} Time to meet the new members... {With that, he vanishes from his branch, and appears behind the giant, celestial eagle, and half celestial.} Greetings. Ah, James, I haven't seen you since you walked out of the GoPG.
Dyne 02-08-05, 08:06 PM	"War is coming again. There seems no hope for the Half-Elves and the Guild of Ultimate Evil to ever get along. This next conflict will surely swallow the world in violence the likes of which we haven't seen in an age. This must be stopped, but the Guild of Pure Good will not listen. They want to consider any act of aggression towards these hostile parties to be an evil act." "But I tell you, I WILL NOT sit idly. They must be stopped. If the negotiations fail, the people of this land MUST be ready. They must be ready to defend themselves from the carnage. They must be warned." "And they cannot defend themselves alone. Someone has to help them, and I certainly intend to. If another Great War explodes upon these lands, I tell you I shall sound the call to arms and face those war-mongering fools head on." He pauses and settles down for a moment. "I do not mean to get the Great Forest involved in a war they have no part. I only seek shelter here, since I find no welcome among those I once called friends. If you would be so kind, allow us sanctuary here."
Demonfey 02-08-05, 10:00 PM	"War is coming again. There seems no hope for the Half-Elves and the Guild of Ultimate Evil to ever get along. This next conflict will surely swallow the world in violence the likes of which we haven't seen in an age. This must be stopped, but the Guild of Pure Good will not listen. They want to consider any act of aggression towards these hostile parties to be an evil act." "But I tell you, I WILL NOT sit idly. They must be stopped. If the negotiations fail, the people of this land MUST be ready. They must be ready to defend themselves from the carnage. They must be warned." "And they cannot defend themselves alone. Someone has to help them, and I certainly intend to. If another Great War explodes upon these lands, I tell you I shall sound the call to arms and face those war-mongering fools head on." He pauses and settles down for a moment. "I do not mean to get the Great Forest involved in a war they have no part. I only seek shelter here, since I find no welcome among those I once called friends. If you would be so kind, allow us sanctuary here." Have you ever considered that it's been tried your way, and it nearly ended with this entire dimension being banished by the all powerful Admins? The last time others got involved, we came close to destruction. Not just our guilds, but all guilds. The GoPG has been drawn in before, and this time is showing sense, because Sil just TURNED DOWN A NO-STRINGS ATTACHED TRUCE OFFER. The people can be moved out of the way, the fight taken else where, but this fight just has to be dealt with by these two parties. Interference from outsiders will cost more lives, and cancel out what you are trying to achieve. Consider these words, before you rush like a fool to the defense of those who have yet to learn from a mistake they made three times. If you refuse to listen to my argument, then at least agree not to get in my way when I try and get the non combatants out with magic. I would be glad to offer you sanctuary, but it is not my decision. Come, we shall ask the members what they say. {With that, you feel a sickening feeling, and then stand disoriented among the members of the Forest Dwellers Foundation.}
Aramar the Black 02-08-05, 10:23 PM	"When a great ball of fire is about to explode, do not foolishly rush out a try to stop, wasting life in the process, but rather come into your homes, seal and watch the doors, until the destrution has gone by in the outer world. Then, with the others like you, go out and patietly restore the damage." "And would you say to my reason that peace talks or agression must be the way, then remember that this fireball is asensitive one. Getting close or talking will set it off, and with luck you may only be singed. Rushing only hurts you the more." And with that, the elf once again closed his eyes
baerdith 02-08-05, 11:41 PM	"But I tell you, I WILL NOT sit idly. " I will.
Kingside_Bishop 02-09-05, 02:18 AM	Have you ever considered that it's been tried your way, and it nearly ended with this entire dimension being banished by the all powerful Admins? The last time others got involved, we came close to destruction. Not just our guilds, but all guilds. The GoPG has been drawn in before, and this time is showing sense, because Sil just TURNED DOWN A NO-STRINGS ATTACHED TRUCE OFFER. The people can be moved out of the way, the fight taken else where, but this fight just has to be dealt with by these two parties. Interference from outsiders will cost more lives, and cancel out what you are trying to achieve. Consider these words, before you rush like a fool to the defense of those who have yet to learn from a mistake they made three times. If you refuse to listen to my argument, then at least agree not to get in my way when I try and get the non combatants out with magic.Friend, do you believe there is nothing we can do to save the lives of those innocents who are not involved in this contest of will? You recognize that this coming war will cost the lives of many innocents, I can tell. Then, your proposed course of action is to sit by and allow it to happen? For fear that if you do anything else, the carnage will only be expanded? You and I have the same goal in this endeavor, friend -- to protect the innocent. Then, let us do so, I implore you! Let's do as you say, and protect the innocent, using whatever means we have... I say, issue an ultimatum to both sides in this coming conflict: whomesoever inflicts damage upon innocent life will earn the ire of our might! Let them fight their battles, but let them do it where our wards will not be harmed! Else, tehy risk losing this battle! "When a great ball of fire is about to explode, do not foolishly rush out a try to stop, wasting life in the process, but rather come into your homes, seal and watch the doors, until the destrution has gone by in the outer world. Then, with the others like you, go out and patietly restore the damage." "And would you say to my reason that peace talks or agression must be the way, then remember that this fireball is asensitive one. Getting close or talking will set it off, and with luck you may only be singed. Rushing only hurts you the more." And with that, the elf once again closed his eyesThe rush is only foolish if you cannot stop the explosion. With enough haste, I believe we could stop it before it inflicts any carnage. To simply hide in your house, waiting for the explosion to come and pass, achieves nothing. For now your house is gone. What then? Rebuild? And when the next fire sweeps through? And the next? Eventually, you'll be an old man, still rebuilding your home. Or, you could try to stop the fire at its source. We're left with a choice then: die as old men who've spent their life rebuilding, or die trying to break free of that cycle -- either way we end up dead. We may as well strive for something good.
Tenzhi 02-09-05, 02:20 AM	"When a great ball of fire is about to explode, do not foolishly rush out a try to stop, wasting life in the process, but rather come into your homes, seal and watch the doors, until the destrution has gone by in the outer world. Then, with the others like you, go out and patietly restore the damage." A little old man with absurdly long silvery-white eyebrows and a bristling white beard steps out from behind a tree, nonchalantly smoking a long-stemmed dragon-bone pipe. He takes the pipe out of his mouth and taps it against his hand, causing hot sparks and tobacco to jump out into the leaves and underbrush where it starts burning. A nearby ground squirrel squeaks with fright and scampers into the shelter of a nearby bush. "Fire," he says as it begins to spread, "has a way of spreading and engulfing all within its path." At this point the bush bursts fully into flame causing a ground squirrel to come scampering out chattering fitfully. The old man gestures at the fleeing critter, "it may even engulf your home unless you do something about it." Having made his point, the old man douses the fire with a wave of his hand. He then takes a puff on his pipe and blows smoke out over the singed area which restores the underbrush. Finally he leans over and chatters something at the ground squirrel and tosses it a golden nut, which it takes before it scampers off.
Demonfey 02-09-05, 04:14 PM	Friend, do you believe there is nothing we can do to save the lives of those innocents who are not involved in this contest of will? You recognize that this coming war will cost the lives of many innocents, I can tell. Then, your proposed course of action is to sit by and allow it to happen? For fear that if you do anything else, the carnage will only be expanded? You and I have the same goal in this endeavor, friend -- to protect the innocent. Then, let us do so, I implore you! Let's do as you say, and protect the innocent, using whatever means we have... I say, issue an ultimatum to both sides in this coming conflict: whomesoever inflicts damage upon innocent life will earn the ire of our might! Let them fight their battles, but let them do it where our wards will not be harmed! Else, tehy risk losing this battle! I know already that the conflict is unstoppable, but I will not sit idly. Instead, I will try to evacuate as many as I can into the Children of the Plane's safe zone, our dimension, via massive numbers of portals that appear beneath them. When the carnage is gone, I would return them to where they were, and tell them of what happened before hand. What James proposes is to basically make a third army, amass troops, and make this a three way fight, losing more lives to both the Skygge and the half elves, and then more peasants and so called innocents will be trapped in an ever-expanding crossfire. How would that save lives? It would prolong the war, and give both sides a new enemy, or worse, bring in even more armies, making this into an inescapable ring of death, with armies all around and the noncombatants trapped in a slowly shrinking circle of death. He has not thought this through, he has not considered the possibilities, but he has decided hot headedly to charge in and try to force his will upon two factions of unknown power, without suggesting a plan to get those he wants to save out of the way. Consider this, for a minute. Also, you misunderstood Aramar's statement. You cannot stop this, by trying to step in front of it. You just give it another life, and it continues on.
Dyne 02-10-05, 09:20 PM	"Do not fight against me, Demonfey, and I shall call you an ally. You misunderstand my plan. I do not blame you, since I play the game of war in a different way than most people. My plan is to take the armies that have already been amassed for defense, and expand them. Any who seek to defend their lands are welcome in this alliance. We cannot let these two forces just destroy this land, and their homes and lives with it." "The whole purpose of this third army is first to bring the fight away from those who cannot defend themselves. It is also to smash the enemy. The enemy is not all that powerful, they can be beat. Especially while they are distracted fighting amongst themselves." "I will take up arms against the enemy. If you would evacuate the lands, it would be most appreciated." "I have no intention of prolonging the war. I have no doubt that each side will fight until one or the other is utterly destroyed. Then what remains of the other will ravage the land. It is completely ridiculous to just let this happen." Dyne the Wizard suddenly appears. He wears robes of white and leans on a white staff. His hair, old and white, hangs down to his shoulders. He has an air of great intelligence and wisdom about him. "I'm ashamed of you, Aramar. I'm certain that a magician of such power as yourself is completely capable of simply extinguishing the fireball, instead of letting it burn down your home." He then laughs heartily, and you are put at ease. "It's good to see you all. Although James sometimes rushes into things, he always has a good cause and a stout heart, and even the most foolish of his endeavors are thought-out and planned. I would not doubt his cause, never in the world." "So it seems that the Half-Elves and the Guild of Evil are once again at each other's throats. James is right in that all-out war between them will affect us all, and there are things that must be done. But, these things include those that neither of you have suggested so far. I will do what I can in this affair. I trust that James will raise a comparable defensive force if needed, and that Crowley will be of great help in getting innocents out of the way. What efforts you can give to this will be most appreciated."
Demonfey 02-10-05, 10:02 PM	"Do not fight against me, Demonfey, and I shall call you an ally. You misunderstand my plan. I do not blame you, since I play the game of war in a different way than most people. My plan is to take the armies that have already been amassed for defense, and expand them. Any who seek to defend their lands are welcome in this alliance. We cannot let these two forces just destroy this land, and their homes and lives with it." "The whole purpose of this third army is first to bring the fight away from those who cannot defend themselves. It is also to smash the enemy. The enemy is not all that powerful, they can be beat. Especially while they are distracted fighting amongst themselves." "I will take up arms against the enemy. If you would evacuate the lands, it would be most appreciated." "I have no intention of prolonging the war. I have no doubt that each side will fight until one or the other is utterly destroyed. Then what remains of the other will ravage the land. It is completely ridiculous to just let this happen." Dyne the Wizard suddenly appears. He wears robes of white and leans on a white staff. His hair, old and white, hangs down to his shoulders. He has an air of great intelligence and wisdom about him. "I'm ashamed of you, Aramar. I'm certain that a magician of such power as yourself is completely capable of simply extinguishing the fireball, instead of letting it burn down your home." He then laughs heartily, and you are put at ease. "It's good to see you all. Although James sometimes rushes into things, he always has a good cause and a stout heart, and even the most foolish of his endeavors are thought-out and planned. I would not doubt his cause, never in the world." "So it seems that the Half-Elves and the Guild of Evil are once again at each other's throats. James is right in that all-out war between them will affect us all, and there are things that must be done. But, these things include those that neither of you have suggested so far. I will do what I can in this affair. I trust that James will raise a comparable defensive force if needed, and that Crowley will be of great help in getting innocents out of the way. What efforts you can give to this will be most appreciated." And how much experience has either one of you had in such war tactics? Your plan is similar to what the yugoloths try in the Blood War, and it just means that the forces divide and begin killing everything in sight that isn't like them. Trust me on this when I say that this could cost more lives than you think. You also forget that, if your plan backfires, then there are two armies united in their thirst for your blood, and in any case, how can you be sure that a third army would even make either one of them withdraw? The best plan would just be to suggest having them fight far from civilization. Make them believe that it's their ideas, and they will do everything to make sure that it happens.
Dyne 02-10-05, 11:58 PM	"Two armies united? What madness has claimed you and forced that insane thought into your head that the Half-Elven Foundation and the Guild of Ultimate Evil would ever unite?" "Why are you fighting against me, Crowley? We are seeking the same goal. No matter what plan is chosen, there is always a chance of having it backfire. This is why we must try to cover ALL loose ends, rather than just one or a few. Of course we would want them to take their differences to another land far from here. But there's nothing we can do to force them to take this course of action." "I have lived for more than 300 years. I've seen my share of wars, and I've done what I could to prevent them and protect others from their carnage. Such is my specialty: to gather knowledge and to use that knowledge to better protect others. I do not know the exact number of years that James has served in this existence, but I do not doubt that he may be much older than either of us." "We can try forcing this conflict to another land. But, there would still be no guarantee that conflict would terrify this land. I do not doubt that the Half-Elves and the Guild of Evil will be the only ones involved in this conflict. Their allies will come to their aid just as before, and this world will be engulfed in another World War. If this happens again, we must do what we can to put a stop to it."
Demonfey 02-11-05, 03:26 PM	"Two armies united? What madness has claimed you and forced that insane thought into your head that the Half-Elven Foundation and the Guild of Ultimate Evil would ever unite?" "Why are you fighting against me, Crowley? We are seeking the same goal. No matter what plan is chosen, there is always a chance of having it backfire. This is why we must try to cover ALL loose ends, rather than just one or a few. Of course we would want them to take their differences to another land far from here. But there's nothing we can do to force them to take this course of action." "I have lived for more than 300 years. I've seen my share of wars, and I've done what I could to prevent them and protect others from their carnage. Such is my specialty: to gather knowledge and to use that knowledge to better protect others. I do not know the exact number of years that James has served in this existence, but I do not doubt that he may be much older than either of us." "We can try forcing this conflict to another land. But, there would still be no guarantee that conflict would terrify this land. I do not doubt that the Half-Elves and the Guild of Evil will be the only ones involved in this conflict. Their allies will come to their aid just as before, and this world will be engulfed in another World War. If this happens again, we must do what we can to put a stop to it." We seek the same goal, of course, but I have fought for the last 20,000 years for my life. 10,000 years of that was in the Blood Wars, serving as a mercenary for the devils. I have seen more battles than I have years, and have seen unlikely alliances as well, due to a blow placed so that both sides become so spiteful of one thing that they actually work together to destroy it. Your plan to lure them away from the city would attempt to do just that, if you think about it. Your goal is to draw them out of the city, and to make them fight your army, where they might just ignore you if you just muster your strength. Your plan would require getting their attentions, and the only real way an army can do that effectively is to attack both sides. Think about that, if only for a minute. What I meant when I suggested a different land would be to create a demiplane just for combat, and instead of armies in the streets, there will be smaller bands. It is not perfect, but it would be better than an alternative, for sure.
Dyne 02-13-05, 06:04 PM	"We shall see, Demonfey." After the Half-Celestial says this, Crowley suddenly feels the briefest spout of anger and hate towards him. However, the feeling passes just as quickly as it came, leaving him with the mystery of its origin.
Demonfey 02-13-05, 09:25 PM	"We shall see, Demonfey." After the Half-Celestial says this, Crowley suddenly feels the briefest spout of anger and hate towards him. However, the feeling passes just as quickly as it came, leaving him with the mystery of its origin. Very well. If I cannot turn you from this act of foolishness, then I wash my hands of your plot, and will work to my own agenda.
Dyne 02-13-05, 09:42 PM	"Do not get in my way, demon. You will rue the day you cross paths with me again." As James and Crowley part ways, Crowley suddenly feels a spasm of pain.
Demonfey 02-13-05, 09:47 PM	"Do not get in my way, demon. You will rue the day you cross paths with me again." As James and Crowley part ways, Crowley suddenly feels a spasm of pain. Using magic upon me, James? For promising not to fight on any side and just save more lives with my plan than yours would by getting them out of the way?
Kingside_Bishop 02-13-05, 09:49 PM	We seek the same goal, of course, but I have fought for the last 20,000 years for my life. 10,000 years of that was in the Blood Wars, serving as a mercenary for the devils. I have seen more battles than I have years, and have seen unlikely alliances as well, due to a blow placed so that both sides become so spiteful of one thing that they actually work together to destroy it. Your plan to lure them away from the city would attempt to do just that, if you think about it. Your goal is to draw them out of the city, and to make them fight your army, where they might just ignore you if you just muster your strength. Your plan would require getting their attentions, and the only real way an army can do that effectively is to attack both sides. Think about that, if only for a minute. What I meant when I suggested a different land would be to create a demiplane just for combat, and instead of armies in the streets, there will be smaller bands. It is not perfect, but it would be better than an alternative, for sure.And if our plan is not to lure them away from the cities, but to keep them out? When being pursued through the frostfell, the best tactic to lose your enemies is to make them lose their will to chase you. Travel to the highest peaks, where there is no food for them to eat, where they cannot stand the cold, and where they risk death through a single slip of the hand. These are problems I never faced, but were very real to them. Simply put, it was no longer worth it for them to chase me. I believe a similar tactic here would be best suited -- make it so costly for them to harm the innocent, that to do so would mean losing their war. Then, will they attack the city? No, of course not. If this is to be a war of attrition, then let us use that to our advantage. If they choose to harm the innocent, then let the consequences be known: the hammer will fall swiftly and brutally, crushing any chance the offenders have of winning their war.
Dyne 02-13-05, 09:50 PM	James turns back to the demonfey. "What are you talking about? I would never do such a thing." He then flies away, pursuing business that needs attending to.
Demonfey 02-13-05, 09:55 PM	James turns back to the demonfey. "What are you talking about? I would never do such a thing." He then flies away, pursuing business that needs attending to. Nothing good will come of this.
Kingside_Bishop 02-13-05, 10:01 PM	As James spreads his wings, Orpheus shakes his head, then climbs aboard his wife, Glacialis. "Will anyone here stand with us in our proposed alliance?" she asks...
Dyne 02-13-05, 10:03 PM	Everyone nearby suddenly realizes that Dyne is nowhere to be found. He seems to have disappeared a few moments ago.
Demonfey 02-13-05, 10:11 PM	As James spreads his wings, Orpheus shakes his head, then climbs aboard his wife, Glacialis. "Will anyone here stand with us in our proposed alliance?" she asks... If you can convince me that you will not make things worse, I will ally myself with you. Remember that you and James are welcome here, and I am merely trying to offer criticism and personal experience so that you don't cost the lives of the innocent by accident.
Kingside_Bishop 02-13-05, 10:27 PM	If you can convince me that you will not make things worse, I will ally myself with you. Remember that you and James are welcome here, and I am merely trying to offer criticism and personal experience so that you don't cost the lives of the innocent by accident.Orpheus leans over the neck of his wife as he speaks to Crowley: "I want only to do everything within my power to bring as little suffering to the innocents of this land as possible. Here, Crowley, is my proposal. Form a defense pact, to protect the population centers... the cities, the populous forests, wherever innocents are gathered. Then, designate areas where they aren't gathered. Places where armies can fight and no one but the armies get hurt. We then send this information to the two opposing sides. Inform them of the territories we intend to protect, and of the territories where we feel they could fight without causing much harm. Inform them that we do not want to fight. But, should they cause harm to innocents by fighting in those territories under our protection, we will retaliate with all the force that we can muster in that territory only. Make it so costly for them to fight in the cities that they dare not do so, for fear of losing the war. If violence comes to those places under our protection, we of course evacuate the innocents as our first priority. What say you, Crowley?"
Dyne 02-13-05, 10:42 PM	"My plan is to smash both forces before they can cause much harm to anyone, including each other or themselves. Make them no longer a threat. Give them nothing to fight with. Cut off all supplies and the like. If they continue to be a problem, they could easily be crushed."
Kingside_Bishop 02-14-05, 12:37 AM	"My plan is to smash both forces before they can cause much harm to anyone, including each other or themselves. Make them no longer a threat. Give them nothing to fight with. Cut off all supplies and the like. If they continue to be a problem, they could easily be crushed."That, my friend, is not a plan I will support. We agree that it is inevitable that these two armies will collide violently, do we not? It is our responsibility to ensure that as few innocent lives are harmed as possible. That is my goal. Not to put an end to this conflict, but to protect innocent lives. This goal is best served by ensuring that the conflict takes place far from civilization. The best way to put this fire out is to contain it, and let it burn itself out.
Dyne 02-14-05, 01:08 AM	"The fire will continue to burn unless we take it out at its source. Nevertheless, it is agreed that we must unite in whatever cause we take. 'Unite or Die' they say. That's always been true. Our allies are all the we can depend on." James pauses for a moment. "I CAN depend on you... can't I?" He looks around at the company. OoC: Wait, didn't we already leave? Or are we flying over the tree tops, so we're technically still in the FDF territory? Nevermind, whatever....
grimclaw 02-14-05, 02:42 AM	An invisible sprite hovering in the trees turns and flies away wringing his hands,Three armies there will be.The master must know but where is the master?Gone ,gone with the phantoms of the past.Hungry they are,his soul they want.Three armies and the master is gone,What can little Simplistix do?Can not find the master,can not save the master.Can not tell the master the things Simplistix has learned.Great battles loom on the horizon and the Grimclaw is gone from Simplistix,no good can come of this.Hurry master,free yourself of these phantoms that hunt you.Simplistix is your loyal servant but he knows not what to do.Continuing to his lamentations the little being flies off toward Tyranor.
Kingside_Bishop 02-14-05, 05:07 PM	"The fire will continue to burn unless we take it out at its source. Nevertheless, it is agreed that we must unite in whatever cause we take. 'Unite or Die' they say. That's always been true. Our allies are all the we can depend on." James pauses for a moment. "I CAN depend on you... can't I?" He looks around at the company.You misunderstand fire. Fire, in order to continue in its burn, must spread and consume new material. Stopping this consumption of new material is the best way to extinguish a flame. Give it no new fuel, and it will burn out, regardless of the heat of its source. Your proposal, James, is to add more fuel to the flames. This will only expand the conflict, and result in an even greater inferno. OoC: Wait, didn't we already leave? Or are we flying over the tree tops, so we're technically still in the FDF territory? Nevermind, whatever....Well, you went to leave, and on my way out, my wife asked if anyone would join us. Crowley asked me what my plan was, so I told him my plan. You came back with your plan. So, I'm on the back of my wife, prepared to lift off. I assume you're hovering nearby still conversing until things are settled. ?
Demonfey 02-14-05, 05:38 PM	That, my friend, is not a plan I will support. We agree that it is inevitable that these two armies will collide violently, do we not? It is our responsibility to ensure that as few innocent lives are harmed as possible. That is my goal. Not to put an end to this conflict, but to protect innocent lives. This goal is best served by ensuring that the conflict takes place far from civilization. The best way to put this fire out is to contain it, and let it burn itself out. I will support that. It is fair, sensible, and gives both sides fair warning, and also succeeds in protecting the most people. If there is any way I can help with that, contact me.
Demonfey 02-14-05, 05:39 PM	You misunderstand fire. Fire, in order to continue in its burn, must spread and consume new material. Stopping this consumption of new material is the best way to extinguish a flame. Give it no new fuel, and it will burn out, regardless of the heat of its source. Your proposal, James, is to add more fuel to the flames. This will only expand the conflict, and result in an even greater inferno. Well, you know my nature, alright.
Aramar the Black 02-14-05, 06:59 PM	Many misunderstood my statement. Know, Orpheus, that when the fire has gone it's course, you rebuild and now attempt to prevent future fires before they happen. Wait, hold your shields above your heads and cover the innocent when the archers fire, then do something while they are reloading. But I am begining to ramble. I will move away from that matter. I will stand with you, Orpheus, for now. Much as I hate to fight, such conflict may be inevitible, and whatever plan will save the most lives, and all, if possible, of the innocent peoples, I will support. James, please cool yourself. I do not wish someone else to. Your plan seems violent and somewhat unnessacary. We should not talk of crushing and smasing people. Let that kind of talk stay in places such as the kitchen, where the victims are the herbs and corns. I am here to be depended on, like a mighty stone. The question is, is whether you chose to depend on me or not. I am only one stone, and sit in only one place. Where you lean becuse of your intentions is up to you.
Dyne 02-14-05, 07:40 PM	"First of all, neither the Half-Elves nor the Guild of Evil are fire. They are armies bent on each other's destruction. They will never stop fighting each other until one or the other is destroyed. I propose that, instead of wait for them to do as they please and destroy what they wish, stop them now. Cut off their supplies. Give them nothing to fight with. Make them no longer a threat. That is the way to win a war." He turns to Aramar. "I would doubt anyone to be as solid a foundation as a stone. I would even doubt the stone beneath my feet. And I am unashamed to crush the villains who would seek to do us harm." James leaves the place, flying high into the sky and away to the South, towards the city.
Kingside_Bishop 02-14-05, 07:45 PM	I will support that. It is fair, sensible, and gives both sides fair warning, and also succeeds in protecting the most people. If there is any way I can help with that, contact me.Glacialis cranes her neck towards the figure of Crowley, with a hint of curiosity in her sapphire eyes. "Thank you, Crowley... you are a puzzle to me, and to my husband as well, I think. But your intentions are indeed pure -- your help is much appreciated. We will call on you, if the time comes." Many misunderstood my statement. Know, Orpheus, that when the fire has gone it's course, you rebuild and now attempt to prevent future fires before they happen. Wait, hold your shields above your heads and cover the innocent when the archers fire, then do something while they are reloading. But I am begining to ramble. I will move away from that matter. I will stand with you, Orpheus, for now. Much as I hate to fight, such conflict may be inevitible, and whatever plan will save the most lives, and all, if possible, of the innocent peoples, I will support.Orpheus speaks in a deep, melodic voice and with an appreciative grin on his pale blue face: "Thank you for your support, friend. I understand and dympathize with your deep regret concerning the necessity of violence. I am similarly tortured. But, as you suggest, I believe we must raise our shields in the defense of the innocent. Thank you for your help in this...
Demonfey 02-14-05, 07:48 PM	"First of all, neither the Half-Elves nor the Guild of Evil are fire. They are armies bent on each other's destruction. They will never stop fighting each other until one or the other is destroyed. I propose that, instead of wait for them to do as they please and destroy what they wish, stop them now. Cut off their supplies. Give them nothing to fight with. Make them no longer a threat. That is the way to win a war." He turns to Aramar. "I would doubt anyone to be as solid a foundation as a stone. I would even doubt the stone beneath my feet. And I am unashamed to crush the villains who would seek to do us harm." James leaves the place, flying high into the sky and away to the South, towards the city. {To James through a telepathic bond} I know the skygge better than you do. You can't cut off their supplies. They don't have supply trains to raid, or routes to attack. Rather, they bring what they need through the shadows, and transport their troops in the same way. Also, that plan could drive the half elves to taking what they can from the land and the people to support themselves. Your plan would fan the flames of destruction and war. You can't cut them off from their supplies, for there are supplies all around us.
Demonfey 02-14-05, 07:53 PM	Glacialis cranes her neck towards the figure of Crowley, with a hint of curiosity in her sapphire eyes. "Thank you, Crowley... you are a puzzle to me, and to my husband as well, I think. But your intentions are indeed pure -- your help is much appreciated. We will call on you, if the time comes." I get that a lot. I have also heard similar plans to what James suggests throughout the millenia, and have seen that this could cause stubborn foes to begin pillaging. I don't claim to be good, or even neutral, but a black heart, but then again, some of the most noble beings I have met have been evil beings, and some of the foulest abominations paladins of the light... Anyway, I will communicate this to the representatives there. I have a pseudo clone there, created through a spell adapted from a wu jen that taught me into normal arcane use.
Kingside_Bishop 02-14-05, 07:58 PM	"First of all, neither the Half-Elves nor the Guild of Evil are fire. They are armies bent on each other's destruction. They will never stop fighting each other until one or the other is destroyed. I propose that, instead of wait for them to do as they please and destroy what they wish, stop them now. Cut off their supplies. Give them nothing to fight with. Make them no longer a threat. That is the way to win a war." He turns to Aramar. "I would doubt anyone to be as solid a foundation as a stone. I would even doubt the stone beneath my feet. And I am unashamed to crush the villains who would seek to do us harm." James leaves the place, flying high into the sky and away to the South, towards the city.Orpheus sighs as he watches his friend go. He feels he cannot follow him, that the best interests of the innocent lie here, with his newfound allies. "May our paths cross again, James..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Orpheus looks around at the dwellers of this forest: "May I ask you a question, friends? I am new to this land, and as of yet have no home. I note there are distant, cold mountains to the north. May I construct my home on one of those frozen peaks?
Demonfey 02-14-05, 08:02 PM	Orpheus sighs to see his friend go. He feels he cannot follow him, that the best interests of the innocent lie here, with his newfound allies. "May our paths cross again, James..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Orpheus looks around at the dwellers of this forest: "May I ask you a question, friends? I am new to this land, and as of yet have no home. I note there are distant, cold mountains to the north. May I construct my home on one of those frozen peaks? I'd have no problem with it. You may want to talk to Orcy, who has an arena up there, before you do make your home, though. Just to find out things like how far away you should be to avoid things like teeth clattering on your roof, and whatnot.
Kingside_Bishop 02-15-05, 10:42 AM	I'd have no problem with it. You may want to talk to Orcy, who has an arena up there, before you do make your home, though. Just to find out things like how far away you should be to avoid things like teeth clattering on your roof, and whatnot.Thank you, friend. We intend to explore the region at once, to find a suitable location. Thank you again, you cannot know how much it means to me to be accepted here... Here's a picture of Orpheus (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Kingside_Bishop/OrpheusPicture.jpg), if you're interested.
Aramar the Black 02-15-05, 09:09 PM	Looking after the departing James, the elf looks down toward his lad and speaks softly to himself, playing with a small twig. "It is a shame. That he should be so uncaring towards the lives of the poeples. But he is interesting. A condridictory person, sometimes. He says that no one is as solid as stone, and yet he wishes us to unite together to fight off this coming war. With the number of us here, mustn't we each be at least as stong and loyal as stone? perhaps he means us to be the strength of steel at the end of our blade. But those who live by the sword, die by the sword. And we should be of nature. Dependable as stone, strong as adimantine. Immovible as a mountain. I hope we do not lose him. I would hate to lose any of the members here. Perhaps this conflict may be educational to more than the two warring groups."
Demonfey 02-15-05, 10:14 PM	Looking after the departing James, the elf looks down toward his lad and speaks softly to himself, playing with a small twig. "It is a shame. That he should be so uncaring towards the lives of the poeples. But he is interesting. A condridictory person, sometimes. He says that no one is as solid as stone, and yet he wishes us to unite together to fight off this coming war. With the number of us here, mustn't we each be at least as stong and loyal as stone? perhaps he means us to be the strength of steel at the end of our blade. But those who live by the sword, die by the sword. And we should be of nature. Dependable as stone, strong as adimantine. Immovible as a mountain. I hope we do not lose him. I would hate to lose any of the members here. Perhaps this conflict may be educational to more than the two warring groups." He never joined us, Aramar, but I understand what you mean. I will try to take care of summoning the main armed force from mercenaries I know of...
Lady Rolindin 02-15-05, 11:02 PM	Have you thought about using spells to proctect the area's you don't want them to fight in, there is a spell I know that can limit everone except a god or if you make an ruin rock to by pass the sphere. We would not need any rocks dont make them, just lock the people inside the sphere. the elves nor the Droga men could by pass the sphere, they would be blocked it a 10 level spell. The one My dwarf mage is going to use on the floating city, with out the glyph rocks no way in. It could be arranged, if you want this to happen! let me know
Cazic 02-16-05, 12:17 AM	Cazic----------------- "I heard this was the place to go if you did not support the war. What can I do?" Siren-------------------- "I got your note Crowley we have come. Hello Master Cazic." She then bows to both Crowley and Cazic.
Aramar the Black 02-16-05, 07:16 AM	Have you thought about using spells to proctect the area's you don't want them to fight in, there is a spell I know that can limit everone except a god or if you make an ruin rock to by pass the sphere. We would not need any rocks dont make them, just lock the people inside the sphere. the elves nor the Droga men could by pass the sphere, they would be blocked it a 10 level spell. The one My dwarf mage is going to use on the floating city, with out the glyph rocks no way in. It could be arranged, if you want this to happen! let me know Sounds like an idea. We just might have to use it.
Dyne 02-16-05, 10:19 AM	Lady Rolindin, I'm sorry, but I don't see how you could possibly cast such a spell. If you can even cast 9th-level spells, then you are breaking the rules because we are only 15th-level. This would be a good idea, but it is totally impossible. Please don't try to bring super powerful NPC's into the game, for that will threaten to crash the IFWG again.
Demonfey 02-16-05, 03:42 PM	Cazic----------------- "I heard this was the place to go if you did not support the war. What can I do?" Siren-------------------- "I got your note Crowley we have come. Hello Master Cazic." She then bows to both Crowley and Cazic. @Cazic: Greetings, Cazic. These two {gestures at the half frost giant and the celestial eagle still here} are Orpheus and his wife. He is the one with the plan, and he is the one to talk to. @Lady Rolindin: I need time to learn and adapt the spell to my own use, but I believe that I could probably manage casting this spell of yours. @Siren: Greetings, Siren. I have a few matters left to take care of, and I have one of my dragon friends looking for the valley of mist. When he returns, we can depart for it. He'll return after the meeting. Anyone here feel like helping reunite a mother and daughter and spill some blood that will not count for or against them later in the actual game?
Dyne 02-16-05, 03:53 PM	I could use my Assassin character for that, though he hasn't been approved yet (don't know if that really matters to you, since you said "doesn't count for or against"). He has levels in Ranger, so he's kinda the woodsy type. He might join if he sees any profit in it.
Lady Rolindin 02-16-05, 04:07 PM	demonfey, and if the floating city was already made my dwarf mage would open up a mythallar teleportation portal and let the npc's go the coa to get away from the fighting. Archmages take a long time to do things here it's seems, If she was by her self the floating city woul d already be floating and the buildings would have started being built. maybe I should just go ahead and start making the floating city and make the mythallar, a place to hide for the npc's then.
Kingside_Bishop 02-16-05, 04:36 PM	[I]@Cazic: Greetings, Cazic. These two {gestures at the cloud giant and the celestial eagle still here} are Orpheus and his wife. He is the one with the plan, and he is the one to talk to.Ahem... Half frost-giant, raised by cloud giants. :D
Demonfey 02-16-05, 05:15 PM	Ahem... Half frost-giant, raised by cloud giants. :D Sorry. :embarrass
Kingside_Bishop 02-16-05, 07:47 PM	Sorry. :embarrass ;)
Cazic 02-16-05, 09:18 PM	I could use my Assassin character for that, though he hasn't been approved yet (don't know if that really matters to you, since you said "doesn't count for or against"). He has levels in Ranger, so he's kinda the woodsy type. He might join if he sees any profit in it. The four PCs I have been using for this barly even have a template in the making so I think we are in the clear. Any fighting and the such is done in a story mode.
Dyne 02-18-05, 09:41 PM	The four PCs I have been using for this barly even have a template in the making so I think we are in the clear. Any fighting and the such is done in a story mode. Oh dang. Or would it be "oh goody"? Well, at least I could describe how my guy kicks butt with weapons that he doesn't actually own. ;)
Cazic 02-18-05, 10:02 PM	Oh dang. Or would it be "oh goody"? Well, at least I could describe how my guy kicks butt with weapons that he doesn't actually own. ;) yes this is true and it brings up a question. Siren has her family lute. It is a magical lute that carves itself, but other than that is a normal lute. will Siren have to put some of her 200,000 equiment gold toward owning something that has been in her family for generation or does she get it for free since all it does is carve a story on itself? :confused:
grimclaw 02-19-05, 12:22 AM	personally I think flavor items shouldnt count toward the 200,000 limit as long as they dont effect gameplay.
Cazic 02-19-05, 02:15 PM	personally I think flavor items shouldnt count toward the 200,000 limit as long as they dont effect gameplay. I agree.
Dyne 02-19-05, 02:53 PM	You would pay the cost of whatever a masterwork lute would cost. All that gold doesn't just represent gold earned through adventuring and the like, it takes into account gifts, heirlooms, and anything else your character might've picked up through whatever means.
Cazic 02-19-05, 04:11 PM	You would pay the cost of whatever a masterwork lute would cost. All that gold doesn't just represent gold earned through adventuring and the like, it takes into account gifts, heirlooms, and anything else your character might've picked up through whatever means. oh. darn. When I finish making Sirens template I will be sure to keep that in mind. What would a Masterwork Lute cost?
Dyne 02-19-05, 04:36 PM	100 gp for a masterwork instrument. And it gives you a +2 circumstance bonus on Perform checks with it.
Cazic 02-19-05, 05:13 PM	thank you and i am guessing the price wont change because of the self-carve?
Dyne 02-19-05, 05:39 PM	I would think that it wouldn't. It's just flavor, afterall.
Cazic 02-20-05, 12:35 AM	Very true. :D
Dyne 02-21-05, 01:36 AM	Who is still an active member here, if any? For those of you that might still be around, do you want to participate in the IFWG as a foundation?
Aramar the Black 02-21-05, 01:04 PM	I'm still here. As for participation in the IFWG, I don't really care if we do or not. it certain ly adds an intesting topic. plotline to this foundation, as seen on the previos pages, but then, working "independently" on the magic of the forest would just as good.
Dyne 02-21-05, 02:41 PM	I'd like to have this foundation participate in the IFWG. But if there aren't enough people for it to thrive as a foundation, then what's the point, really? I hear that we're only going to be allowed 3 PC's at most in the IFWG. I'm members/founders of way more than 3 foundations that are so different from one another that it would be impossible to have 3 characters that covered all the bases. If this foundation is active enough, though, I'll certainly have a character for it.
Lady Rolindin 02-21-05, 04:23 PM	This depends on you as a indivual character, if they choose to pertake in the war or not, I would like to bring in a wizard/ ranger to be in this foundation. she would not want to be part of the war but help they ones who are escaping from the forces. she would defend herslf from any of those forces if they attack her in this area. I don't know if we should involue our self in the war but help the twn folks to escape if they need to escape here and put them up in houses and our homes till they crazes stop killing each other. She would want to help the ones escape if that is called for and hide them from the war seekers. The one's who crave war and seek it out. ranger /wizard from the dragon magizine, nice class mix.
Kingside_Bishop 02-21-05, 04:46 PM	I think I'd like to have Orpheus join this foundation -- arctic forests are his kind of place, and everyone here seems to be of a similar mind to him. Orpheus, and his warhammer of frosty doom, are in.
Demonfey 02-21-05, 05:08 PM	Sounds good to me...
baerdith 02-21-05, 08:45 PM	Who is still an active member here, if any? For those of you that might still be around, do you want to participate in the IFWG as a foundation? I'm here, but I stopped posting when it looked like the war thing was taking over. Personally I don't like the whole war thing, but I guess that is just me. :(
Cazic 02-21-05, 10:20 PM	I'm here, but I stopped posting when it looked like the war thing was taking over. Personally I don't like the whole war thing, but I guess that is just me. :( None of us like this war. That is why we are hee trying to help the innoccent. We tried to stop the war, but none would listen.
Dyne 02-21-05, 10:58 PM	This has nothing to do with any kind of war, it's the whole game. I originally intended on having a Young Green Dragon character for this foundation, but that was before the rumor of the bastardly three-character-limit. It looks like there are plenty of people here, so I'll see what I can do. (There went my plot to take over the world :rolleyes: )
Valarian's Beloved 02-22-05, 11:48 AM	The elven maiden lowers her head and confers privately with her other personalities. She smoothes her flame red curls from her amber eyes, looking to the others. "It greatly grieves me so that I am not at liberty to go to war at this time as I am unable to take my counterpart into battle and am engaged in another matter of sorts outside of the Foundation. Though I would much rather stand and be counted among my brethen, I must decline at this time." Verlansia leans back against the trunk of the tree and considers the present situation thoughfully.
Tenzhi 02-22-05, 01:25 PM	Even if this foundation were involved in the IFGW, you could be part of the foundation and not be part of the IFGW. You could even make IC posts with a character who isn't part of the IFGW here.
Dyne 02-22-05, 11:08 PM	My character could just be a permament illusion that looks like a green dragon. Hmm....
Demonfey 02-23-05, 01:30 PM	The elven maiden lowers her head and confers privately with her other personalities. She smoothes her flame red curls from her amber eyes, looking to the others. "It greatly grieves me so that I am not at liberty to go to war at this time as I am unable to take my counterpart into battle and am engaged in another matter of sorts outside of the Foundation. Though I would much rather stand and be counted among my brethen, I must decline at this time." Verlansia leans back against the trunk of the tree and considers the present situation thoughfully. {Crowley looks at Verlansia with a look of surprise, because he hasn't bothered to stop using telepathy to read other people's minds} You also have multiple personalities? Although they aren't shard personalities, it is similar to my own situation.
Dyne 02-23-05, 10:40 PM	If you guys want any kind of leader, you'll have to choose one from amongst yourselves. I won't be able to post here as often. Sorry. :(
Frostbite_Ravenheart 02-24-05, 12:27 AM	If you guys want any kind of leader, you'll have to choose one from amongst yourselves. I won't be able to post here as often. Sorry. :( I don't like the idea for of a leader for the Forest Foundation. I understand it will have its drawbacks but I always invisioned this foundation as union of forest-dwelling people who put there differences aside while defending the forest. Such as my Half-Elven Ranger wouldn't much enjoy being associate with lets say a nasty green dragon who has a habbit of killing trespassing humans but would gladly accept the dragons help when a human army tires to take over the woods. Just my 2cents -Frosty
Demonfey 03-01-05, 10:00 PM	{A ninja appears amongst the group, and walks over to Crowley. Bowing, the ninja then takes out a tube and hands it to Crowley. Crowley opens the tube, and takes out a map, and begins studying it. He looks to the ninja.} You have done well. You are dismissed. {The ninja disappears from your sight. Crowley then turns to Siren.} That was my head assassin. I sent him with Sulkyr, my lieutenant, to find the village. This map will lead us to it.
Cazic 03-01-05, 10:33 PM	{A ninja appears amongst the group, and walks over to Crowley. Bowing, the ninja then takes out a tube and hands it to Crowley. Crowley opens the tube, and takes out a map, and begins studying it. He looks to the ninja.} You have done well. You are dismissed. {The ninja disappears from your sight. Crowley then turns to Siren.} That was my head assassin. I sent him with Sulkyr, my lieutenant, to find the village. This map will lead us to it. "I am glad to hear it Crowley. I am happy you have such good help. When will we be off?"
Demonfey 03-01-05, 10:50 PM	"I am glad to hear it Crowley. I am happy you have such good help. When will we be off?" Just as soon as I figure out our current position to this. This map shows the city as well as the forest, and begins in the city...ah, here we go. We are a few days travel from the area on foot, and since I don't have an image of the area in my mind, I can't bring us there through teleportation.
Cazic 03-01-05, 11:15 PM	"I am sure we will be able to get there with out insident since you are here after all. Who would attack you?"
Kingside_Bishop 03-03-05, 07:08 PM	So, if we're going to be active in the Guild Wars, what's our agenda going to be?
Cazic 03-03-05, 07:14 PM	So, if we're going to be active in the Guild Wars, what's our agenda going to be? NO idea. :)
baerdith 03-03-05, 07:20 PM	So, if we're going to be active in the Guild Wars, what's our agenda going to be? And WHY would we want to be active in some war?
Demonfey 03-03-05, 07:22 PM	"I am sure we will be able to get there with out insident since you are here after all. Who would attack you?" Do you know how many people owe me money? Because they would all love to see those debts mysteriously vanish. Zaphkiel in particular really needs to work on his poker face, for example...
Cazic 03-03-05, 08:02 PM	Do you know how many people owe me money? Because they would all love to see those debts mysteriously vanish. Zaphkiel in particular really needs to work on his poker face, for example... "Thankfully for me I dont play poker." Laying in front of you, lazily streching on a pile of leaves, is a small Bronze wyrmling Dragon.
Demonfey 03-03-05, 08:06 PM	"Thankfully for me I dont play poker." Laying in front of you, lazily streching on a pile of leaves, is a small Bronze wyrmling Dragon. {Just then, Crowley's red dragon familiar comes into the forest and sits down next to Crowley, a knowing look on his face.} Bet people forgot about him, didn't they?
Cazic 03-03-05, 08:09 PM	{Just then, Crowley's red dragon familiar comes into the forest and sits down next to Crowley, a knowing look on his face.} Bet people forgot about him, didn't they? Kath'ranis yawns as the Red approches not realy caring about the Dragons color. "A pleasure to meet you fine Red. Tell me how long have you been with the Fireball spell gone aray?" Kath'ranis says this with a big grin on his face. I never know you had a dragon familiar.
Demonfey 03-03-05, 08:36 PM	Kath'ranis yawns as the Red approches not realy caring about the Dragons color. "A pleasure to meet you fine Red. Tell me how long have you been with the Fireball spell gone aray?" Kath'ranis says this with a big grin on his face. I never know you had a dragon familiar. Since I hatched, which would make this three years. They grow up so fast, don't they? By the way, if you are here, then who's guarding your hoard, Kath?
Cazic 03-03-05, 08:57 PM	Since I hatched, which would make this three years. They grow up so fast, don't they? By the way, if you are here, then who's guarding your hoard, Kath? "Hoard? My home is my hoard there is no need to guard it. Who would steal a home the size of a small island? How would someone steal it? Aswell it seems I am older than your Red Smokey. I am but a year away from leaving the ranks of wyrmling. I look forward to that day and when you aswell join those ranks brother."
Cazic 03-06-05, 05:26 PM	"Weren't you doing something Smokey?"
Demonfey 03-06-05, 06:34 PM	Yes, I was, and then I got images of me sinking the island, which I can do if given a certain spell...anyways, Siren, this trip will apparently take a few days to make. Are you, Bloodshadow, and your father prepared to start?
Lady Rolindin 03-06-05, 06:34 PM	I think like the movie robin hood the prince of thiefs, kevin conster. houses in the trees tops so we can see whos coming and have a place to be safe and not found. I did take the landlord feat to make a house or two in the tree tops. a nice city in the tree tops sounds good too me.
Dyne 03-06-05, 07:26 PM	And WHY would we want to be active in some war? No war. The "Guild Wars" was a term given to the game when it was first thought up, since it was originally intended as a war game. The official name of the game, however, was the Inter-Foundation War Games. Now, however, the name has been changed to the Inter-Foundation Games, for political reasons. The game doesn't focus as much on war anymore, so the old name didn't fit. Basically, Baerdith, it's the same as the last IFWG, except hopefully with less war-mongering.
Dyne 03-06-05, 07:31 PM	I think like the movie robin hood the prince of thiefs, kevin conster. houses in the trees tops so we can see whos coming and have a place to be safe and not found. I did take the landlord feat to make a house or two in the tree tops. a nice city in the tree tops sounds good too me. Whatever kind of housing particular people want. We could have a little tree-top village like the Ewoks in Star Wars. Some of the other people wouldn't really need much of houses, though, at least I would think. I couldn't picture many druids with massive mansions in the forests.
Cazic 03-06-05, 07:32 PM	Tyreal ------- "You need not worry of us Friend we are always ready." Tyreal then stands and places his hand on his hilt. Siren -------- "We are prepared." Kath --------- "So many serious faces! You need to relax more. OH! Fireplace if you ever get to see my home I dout you will want to destroy it. It is so beautiful. Do you all mind if I occompany you?" OOC: Kath has been redone. he is now Medium size and six years old so make all the mental changes you need to for that.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-06-05, 07:34 PM	I think like the movie robin hood the prince of thiefs, kevin conster. houses in the trees tops so we can see whos coming and have a place to be safe and not found. I did take the landlord feat to make a house or two in the tree tops. a nice city in the tree tops sounds good too me. I hate to reiterate but I say again we are not one people. Were more of an alliance from my point of view. An alliance of forest dwellers. While we may have some sort of central and neutral meeting place we should each have our own style of living. Druidic groves and Robin Hoodesq treecitys can live along cave-dwelling outlaws and semi-nomatic forest halflings. If you don't have your own method of survival and thus housing, you really shouldn't be in this alliance should you? -Frosty
Dyne 03-06-05, 07:39 PM	I hate to reiterate but I say again we are not one people. Were more of an alliance from my point of view. An alliance of forest dwellers. While we may have some sort of central and neutral meeting place we should each have our own style of living. Druidic groves and Robin Hoodesq treecitys can live along cave-dwelling outlaws and semi-nomatic forest halflings. If you don't have your own method of survival and thus housing, you really shouldn't be in this alliance should you? -Frosty I don't know what you meant by the last sentence, but you are right in a way about us being an alliance. But, we're a stronger alliance than that. We are a guild, afterall, not just a bunch of bums who happen to live in a very large forest.
Lady Rolindin 03-06-05, 08:19 PM	Frostbite_Ravenheart, dyne and the rest what ever housing system you decide to live in thta fine. I suppose that all of us has our own area then. it would make sence to me, I like the tree tops and not hurt the trees, build around them. if any one wants to live in this kind of area then you can live in the same area or if you choose to make a tree top city in your area. it would be nice to be able to evacute the city people and know they have places to stay. a few extra houses to stay in, and all the lower npcs livng in the small city or small village. and I am feeling down about somebody, so we can all have our own area's then i guess it sounds like it. We meet here, is there a horn blown for a meeting or a signal of some kind.
Demonfey 03-06-05, 08:22 PM	Frosty meant in his last sentence that, if you don't have the means to live in a forest, why would you do so in the first place?
Lady Rolindin 03-06-05, 08:25 PM	I understand and I believe my ranger/wizard does have the skills to live in this or any forest. she is from this forest.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-06-05, 08:57 PM	Thank you DemonFey, thats exactly what I ment. As for making safe haven for the city folk to retreat too...we must try and decide wisely about that. Do we really wish to have to expend many of our resources trying to protect them from the dangers of the wood and whatever made them retreat in the first place? Do we want to spend time and money building a forest fortress that we may never use? Do we want a bunch of ignorant city-folk cutting our trees and disgracing the animal habitats? Now, I'm not saying I'm totally against it but I am saying we must think about it and decide, at least if you want help from this alliance as a whole. -Frosty
Dyne 03-06-05, 09:04 PM	This place is supposed to be a haven. We have very strict rules (although they be unwritten) against acts of violence within our grounds and against cutting down our trees. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to welcome people to this place as long as they didn't damage the forest. If they tried to cut down our trees, we would take them out.
Demonfey 03-06-05, 09:24 PM	May I offer a different solution? The demiplane base of the Children of the Planes could be used, if you brought this up with necrodude. I am willing to vouch for it, and to offer protection, but I am the vice head. If you want, I will run it by him and find out what he thinks.
Lady Rolindin 03-06-05, 10:26 PM	This is what I mean, I know that this is a procted place, no trees will be cut down unnessary. no tree will be cut down that is alive. trees that have fallen alreadywill be used to make the city for my section. I only ofered to put some of them up if they need a place to hide. I'm trying to help. my character is a half elf and respects the forest. she would never cut down a tree to make the tree top houses. she would use use fallen trees, frosty plase understand me. I'm just offererd to help put some of the city people up if they need the help. I would like to add that if you take alook at spels known, she has no fire spells. I did this on purpose, because i believe that a wiz/ran would not want to burn down her home. it does make it hard to build a tree top house not to cut down trees, but it's better than destroying the forest. my character likes the forest its her home, and likes the ideal of living with the trees, it makes her feel part of the forest. I'm not trying to get the city people to come and cut down the forest to make room for them. just use the fallen trees to make a home for her and her npc's to live in and if the city people need a place to stay then some can stay. they will not be allowed to cut down trees or anything that will harm the forest. the ideal of taking them to the plane is a good ideal.
turalisj 03-06-05, 10:58 PM	topiary garden creatures should be a common here.
Demonfey 03-07-05, 12:10 AM	{Crowley goes still for a minute, and then smiles. He looks at you all.} Kayne has decided to allow our demiplane to be used as a haven for the masses. As the vice head of the Children of the Planes, I would like to offer you all haven with us, and even an alliance. We are prepared to house and help the masses already. Of course, we can only offer relative protection, because there is always the possibility that we could be attacked. Do you accept?
necrodude16 03-07-05, 12:14 AM	A tall middlea aged Fey'ri enters and approaches the gathering. I am Kayne Shadowborne, Head of the Children of The Planes. My second in charge told me of this situatuion and i am willing to offer an allience between our guilds as well as the use of our plane. We will offer protection to you if you are willing to forge an alliance with us. His voice rolls smoothly out of his mouth as he stands before the Forest Dwellers. We have many forests and groves for you to use for your causes whatever they may be. I await your answer. Demonfey can inform me of your desicion. And with that he was gone.....
Aramar the Black 03-07-05, 07:36 PM	And what do the Children of the Planes want from us?
Demonfey 03-07-05, 08:14 PM	And what do the Children of the Planes want from us? We ask you that we can call upon you if we are in need of aid, as we will come to yours if need be. It is all we ask of our allies. Oh, and try to be open minded. I say this simply because, as the outcasts of society and nature itself, we know that many who say that they are open to anything tend to be less than open minded if a person has horns and bat wings.
Cazic 03-07-05, 09:20 PM	Crowley my Friend I believe that we should go. One never knows what lay ahead so i think we should go while there is still light to this day.
Demonfey 03-07-05, 09:30 PM	Crowley my Friend I believe that we should go. One never knows what lay ahead so i think we should go while there is still light to this day. Of course. I forget that you need to do things like sleep at night.
Cazic 03-07-05, 09:43 PM	Of course. I forget that you need to do things like sleep at night. "Yes Crowley those things are needed at times." Siren says this with a inosent smile on her face.
Demonfey 03-07-05, 09:53 PM	"Yes Crowley those things are needed at times." Siren says this with a inosent smile on her face. You live for 19,500+ years without having to worry about sleeping and you can then talk to me about that. I only sleep at all because it is quiet and peaceful. Now, would you prefer to walk or to fly there?
Cazic 03-07-05, 09:56 PM	You live for 19,500+ years without having to worry about sleeping and you can then talk to me about that. I only sleep at all because it is quiet and peaceful. Kath----- "Yes sleeping is oh so very relaxing, but after living so long one would think you had learned that many races need sleep on long and dangures journeys after Cursed half-Celectial's lost mother ah Flint." Siren------ "How did you know of our journey young one? We never told you?" Kath--------- "Ummm. HEY! Is that my mother I hear? Better get going. Bye!" Kath then begin a speedy fly toward the window.
Demonfey 03-08-05, 03:41 PM	Kath----- "Yes sleeping is oh so very relaxing, but after living so long one would think you had learned that many races need sleep on long and dangures journeys after Cursed half-Celectial's lost mother ah Flint." Siren------ "How did you know of our journey young one? We never told you?" Kath--------- "Ummm. HEY! Is that my mother I hear? Better get going. Bye!" Kath then begin a speedy fly toward the window. {Crowley, using his lock hand, grabs Kath by the tail and causes him to have a very uncomfortable moment.} Tell us what you know, young one.
Cazic 03-08-05, 09:15 PM	{Crowley, using his lock hand, grabs Kath by the tail and causes him to have a very uncomfortable moment.} Tell us what you know, young one. ARG! Stupid Campfire that hurts!" Kath them mumbles to himself a bit. "I don't know much Fireball. I was just told by a fellow Cleric about this quest of yours and I later met a high ranking member of my order who told me it was the will of Hlal to go with you all, but not to speak of the incounters unless asked how I know about you two." As he says this none sees the grin hiding hehind his lips.
Demonfey 03-08-05, 09:53 PM	You forgot I have telepathy, didn't you. {With that, Crowley sends the message again, this time inside Kath's head and as loud as he can manifest his telepathic messages.} WHAT DO YOU KNOW?!
Cazic 03-08-05, 10:05 PM	You forgot I have telepathy, didn't you. {With that, Crowley sends the message again, this time inside Kath's head and as loud as he can manifest his telepathic messages.} WHAT DO YOU KNOW?! "[Bear speach/]*DARN YOUR FIREPLACE!*[Bear Speach/] I am going to have a headack for a WEEK!" Kath then paces the room a bit thinking to himself. "Alright he doesn't like people talking about him when he isn't around. Some superstition of theirs. Something about bad luck with swords and the moon or something, but the high ranking Cleric I met is a member of The Cresent Moon and Sword." OOC: If you dont remember They are the people who imprisoned Siren's parents and their base is somewhere on the moon. Also yes I did forget you could read minds DF. :D
turalisj 03-08-05, 10:20 PM	a 'pop' is heard and turalisj is seen running out from behind a tree, a large swarm behind him. he turns around and a fireball launches from his eye, incinerating all of them."finnally. you know how hard it was to re-find this place? i landed in an illithids outpost, a red dragons den, and then the guild of evil. i tell you, you need to supply a map. so, whats going on now?"
Cazic 03-08-05, 10:25 PM	a 'pop' is heard and turalisj is seen running out from behind a tree, a large swarm behind him. he turns around and a fireball launches from his eye, incinerating all of them."finnally. you know how hard it was to re-find this place? i landed in an illithids outpost, a red dragons den, and then the guild of evil. i tell you, you need to supply a map. so, whats going on now?" "Well for one The Fireball spell over there has been grabing my tail and screaming IN my head."
Dyne 03-09-05, 12:20 AM	This is what I mean, I know that this is a procted place, no trees will be cut down unnessary. no tree will be cut down that is alive. trees that have fallen alreadywill be used to make the city for my section. I only ofered to put some of them up if they need a place to hide. I'm trying to help. my character is a half elf and respects the forest. she would never cut down a tree to make the tree top houses. she would use use fallen trees, frosty plase understand me. I'm just offererd to help put some of the city people up if they need the help. I would like to add that if you take alook at spels known, she has no fire spells. I did this on purpose, because i believe that a wiz/ran would not want to burn down her home. it does make it hard to build a tree top house not to cut down trees, but it's better than destroying the forest. my character likes the forest its her home, and likes the ideal of living with the trees, it makes her feel part of the forest. I'm not trying to get the city people to come and cut down the forest to make room for them. just use the fallen trees to make a home for her and her npc's to live in and if the city people need a place to stay then some can stay. they will not be allowed to cut down trees or anything that will harm the forest. the ideal of taking them to the plane is a good ideal. *Hears "Half-Elf" and cringes* The last Half-Elf I met was unashamed of killing both Humans and Elves. :nonono: Also, it was my intention (or rather my idea (or perception)) that the Forest Dwellers Foundation was based in the middle of the Great Forest, which is a very large forest outside of the City of Tyranor. *Realizes that the post he is responding to is from the last page* Wait, where am I? *Looks around* *Points to a squirrel* I don't know you. *The squirrel scampers off in fear, a small nut in its mouth* Hey, come back here with that! *Chases after it*
Aramar the Black 03-09-05, 07:17 AM	*Hears "Half-Elf" and cringes* The last Half-Elf I met was unashamed of killing both Humans and Elves. :nonono: And who was that? And you do know Aramar, I hope?
Demonfey 03-09-05, 03:34 PM	*Hears "Half-Elf" and cringes* The last Half-Elf I met was unashamed of killing both Humans and Elves. :nonono: Also, it was my intention (or rather my idea (or perception)) that the Forest Dwellers Foundation was based in the middle of the Great Forest, which is a very large forest outside of the City of Tyranor. *Realizes that the post he is responding to is from the last page* Wait, where am I? *Looks around* *Points to a squirrel* I don't know you. *The squirrel scampers off in fear, a small nut in its mouth* Hey, come back here with that! *Chases after it* @Dyne: Technically, I am a half elf. I just happen to have a demon as a parent. @Kath: {Crowley lets go of Kath's tail, letting him land haphazardly. He then bend down.} Thank you. Remember that next time I ask you something, it pays to be helpful and hurts to constantly deny you have any information.
turalisj 03-09-05, 05:30 PM	i should have known. next time try using a better threat. like tearing his skin off and using it as a throw rug.
Demonfey 03-09-05, 05:47 PM	i should have known. next time try using a better threat. like tearing his skin off and using it as a throw rug. Nah. Kath here seems to be a good source of information, and besides, I can do more...creative things to him if I really felt like it.
turalisj 03-09-05, 06:07 PM	sounds like fun...
Demonfey 03-09-05, 07:47 PM	sounds like fun... You learn things you don't want to when you get enslaved to a demon that you were sold to by your father after he beats you unconscious with your own arm that he ripped out of your socket and are in forced servitude for 50 years.
turalisj 03-09-05, 08:55 PM	You learn things you don't want to when you get enslaved to a demon that you were sold to by your father after he beats you unconscious with your own arm that he ripped out of your socket and are in forced servitude for 50 years. as i said.....sounds like fun.
Cazic 03-09-05, 09:53 PM	@Kath: {Crowley lets go of Kath's tail, letting him land haphazardly. He then bend down.} Thank you. Remember that next time I ask you something, it pays to be helpful and hurts to constantly deny you have any information.[/I] "I only deny out of politness toward others who have asked I say nothing. Also you people have PROBLEMS! Talking about skining me alive nd such that just isn't right I tell you.Stupid Continual fames and lunitics." Kath then returns to his pile of leaves and falls asleep.
turalisj 03-09-05, 10:14 PM	turalisj watches with interest as the strange creature lays down why'd he just fall asleep on a portal to a castle full of bloodthirsty ogres? watches as Kath falls through the portal. never mind.
Cazic 03-09-05, 10:54 PM	turalisj watches with interest as the strange creature lays down why'd he just fall asleep on a portal to a castle full of bloodthirsty ogres? watches as Kath falls through the portal. never mind. What part of "PILE OF LEAVES" confused you? :confused:
Demonfey 03-10-05, 05:04 PM	"I only deny out of politness toward others who have asked I say nothing. Also you people have PROBLEMS! Talking about skining me alive nd such that just isn't right I tell you.Stupid Continual fames and lunitics." Kath then returns to his pile of leaves and falls asleep. Turalisj...well, he just likes doing posts like that. Crowley is CE. He has to do the occasional heinous act.
Tenzhi 03-10-05, 11:41 PM	Crowley is CE? I always figured him for NE. Mind you, there are many (mostly elves) who think the Elf-Bane is some shade of evil. Alignment is funny like that.
Dyne 03-11-05, 12:04 AM	Crowley is CE? I always figured him for NE. Mind you, there are many (mostly elves) who think the Elf-Bane is some shade of evil. Alignment is funny like that. Law and Chaos are nothing to me. Good and Evil are the only relevent alignments, and they are more in acts than in people.
Tenzhi 03-11-05, 12:14 AM	Law and Chaos are nothing to me. Good and Evil are the only relevent alignments, and they are more in acts than in people. Personally, I consider Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos to be relatively non-existant. Good and Evil are just subjective measures of morality which is itself a personal illusion, while Law and Chaos are a measure of perceptual understanding.
Dyne 03-11-05, 12:45 AM	Personally, I consider Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos to be relatively non-existant. Good and Evil are just subjective measures of morality which is itself a personal illusion, while Law and Chaos are a measure of perceptual understanding. Call it what you want. Applying words to something doesn't change what it is. Some would say that Good and Evil are beyond the description of words. I believe that people believe only what they want to. I believe in Good and Evil not only because it gives what I deem a reasonable explanation of things, but the idea of Good gives me hope. Some people would not believe in Good and Evil because they do not want to be tied down by their boundaries, and they would rather do what they want to without being labeled. Others probably disagree for the sake of disagreeing (idiots). It does not matter to me. Believe what you will as long as it does not cause you to act in an unfavorable way toward me or those close to me. I sense another philosophical discussion coming on. I have a tendency of getting involved in those (more like a part in starting them).
Tenzhi 03-11-05, 01:11 AM	Call it what you want. Applying words to something doesn't change what it is. Words are not meant to change what is there, they are meant to describe it in terms that may be readily understood. Such is the basis of communication. Some would say that Good and Evil are beyond the description of words. And those people are inherently hypocrites. I believe that people believe only what they want to. Well, if that's what you want to believe... :P I believe in Good and Evil not only because it gives what I deem a reasonable explanation of things, but the idea of Good gives me hope. Some people would not believe in Good and Evil because they do not want to be tied down by their boundaries, and they would rather do what they want to without being labeled. Others probably disagree for the sake of disagreeing (idiots). My opinion varies depending upon my point of view that week. Some weeks my point of view is more of a personal level, and other weeks it seems to be a macroscopic vantage point on the universe. In the previous sense, Good and Evil seem indefinable except by subjective, biassed standards - which precludes a universal notion of either good or evil, instead relegating them to selfish wants and needs or social/cultural mores. In the latter sense, it seems that there is always an inherent order to the Universe that we can't always see - since morality seems to exist (notice that even this view acknowledges that morality may be an illusion) from a sentient viewpoint it follows that there must be a Universal notion of Good and Evil though we are only able to guess at the particulars. In all cases, however, Law and Chaos are figments of the mind. There are always patterns, though we may not be cognizant enough to follow them. Ergo Chaos does not truly exist and therefore neither does Law.
Demonfey 03-11-05, 03:14 PM	Personally, I consider Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos to be relatively non-existant. Good and Evil are just subjective measures of morality which is itself a personal illusion, while Law and Chaos are a measure of perceptual understanding. That's how I play, personally, except in this case, the law/chaos axis is a sort of sanity meter, sane being lawful, insane being chaotic.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-11-05, 09:13 PM	So Demonfey - What would normally be the heroic, law-breaking CG "Robin Hood" outlaw-like Ranger in DND would translate into a LG character in your game beacuse hes very sane, reasonable and organized? Not that I disaprove, I'm just curious. I personally believe that alignments are just a croutch and I do not play with them as a DM and rarely fill one out on my character sheet unless my DM is absolutly adamite about it. -Frosty
Demonfey 03-12-05, 02:31 AM	So Demonfey - What would normally be the heroic, law-breaking CG "Robin Hood" outlaw-like Ranger in DND would translate into a LG character in your game beacuse hes very sane, reasonable and organized? Not that I disaprove, I'm just curious. I personally believe that alignments are just a croutch and I do not play with them as a DM and rarely fill one out on my character sheet unless my DM is absolutly adamite about it. -Frosty First off, I have been told that I can never DM again after a fiasco involving the Lord of the Iron Fortress campaign...I shouldn't have allowed the war hulk to be a character...anyway, my view is that something that has little sanity tends to be very chaotic, although in your example the actions would also impact on his alignment. Basically, my view is that you have to take in sanity, personality (malignant or benign), and actions to make the alignment, and that the alignment would probably be altered by the views of others towards the subject. Robin Hood, for example, would be CG because of his actions (giving to poor), general disposition, and the fact that he gives money to other people. Most of the players I am working in a campaign with would keep the money, and three are good.
Tenzhi 03-12-05, 02:37 AM	Robin Hood, for example, would be CG because of his actions (giving to poor), general disposition, and the fact that he gives money to other people. I submit that the redistribution of wealth as a matter of balancing social divisions of wealth (rich:poor) is the act of a neutral persona, rather than a chaotic.
Dyne 03-12-05, 03:17 AM	I submit that the redistribution of wealth as a matter of balancing social divisions of wealth (rich:poor) is the act of a neutral persona, rather than a chaotic. I wouldn't call the act itself anything. If Robin Hood was doing it to help out people with a rough time, I would call it Good because, at least in the Book of Exalted Deeds, Good is defined as doing something to help others, especially if there is some personal sacrifice for you involved. Of course, if Robin Hood was doing it to fund an army to attack the nobility so that he could conquer the world, then that's something different.
Tenzhi 03-12-05, 03:20 AM	I wouldn't call the act itself anything. But you don't think in terms of Law/Chaos, either. ;) If Robin Hood was doing it to help out people with a rough time, I would call it Good because, at least in the Book of Exalted Deeds, Good is defined as doing something to help others, especially if there is some personal sacrifice for you involved. That's a whole 'nother can of worms revolving around ends vs. means. I think we delved into it in one of the alignment threads.
Dyne 03-12-05, 03:22 AM	Actually, I was referring more to the Good vs. Evil part, which wasn't even being argued, but meh. It's more of an intentions thing than the ends or the means. If Robin Hood intended to do something evil but something good came out of it, he was still committing evil.
Tenzhi 03-12-05, 03:38 AM	It's more of an intentions thing than the ends or the means. If Robin Hood intended to do something evil but something good came out of it, he was still committing evil. Yar, that's what I meant. A matter of what ends are achieved versus what he means to do. ;)
Dyne 03-12-05, 03:40 AM	I thought by means you meant by what means he accomplishes it.
Tenzhi 03-12-05, 03:44 AM	I thought by means you meant by what means he accomplishes it. Yar. I should've clarified it from the first. I didn't mean to confuse you. Or perhaps I did. I can never be sure. :P
Dyne 03-13-05, 06:52 PM	You're confusing. :confused:
Sssargoth 03-13-05, 10:08 PM	Lupin by Mike McArtor Dragon 325 November 2004 Lupins exist at the crux of a duality, torn constantly between two mythological beginings. Most of these dog-headed humanoids rarely ponder the subject, living their lives in the comfort of their individual families, saving such speculation for the quiet times of their inferm years.However, nonlupin sages and historians (with lupin input) frequently consider and debate this issue. Although most people consider the debate purely academic, lupin spiritual leaders actively argue two versions of their creation. The origional and most popular creation story comes down from their ancient oral tradition, marking lupins as decendants of werewolves who rejected the chaos of their monthly murderous sprees. Proponents of this theory point to the uncanny ability of lupins to sniff out werewolves as well as the obveous physical similarities. The newer origin theory, origionally proposed by the lupin sage Hector Roff, argues that the fanatic enmity between lycanthropes ad lupins comes from stresses placed upon lupins by other races. Followers of his theory, called Hectorites, propose that their race came from a union of humans and gnolls, and that early lupins became famed werewolf hunters to prove to fearful human neghbors that they indeed were not werewolves themselves. Most lupins consider this theory preposterous, although the younger generations seem to favor this less idealistic belief. Regardless of their origin, lupins have always had a tie to werewoves. The day after a lupin child proves itsself weaned by eating solid foods, the village werewolf hunters, called hruffs, begin teaching it the basics of killing lycanthropes. This day, known as the child's Moonset, is only the first rite of passage for a lupin. At puberty, lupins undergo another rite, called ro'rutoo (for boys) or ro'rutah (for girls). The exact rite varies from tribe to tribe, but it typcally includes spending a night on the grasslands with only a mount as company. Succeeding at this rite makes the young lupin an official member of the tribe, and allows him to venture with an eldar to a White Howl. Once a lupin's muzzel and head hair begin to whiten (a natural change for the race that comes with age) he passes through one final rite composed of fasting and intese meditation. At the conclusion of this rite, the old lupin is recognised as an elder and becomes eligible for the greatest of honors: to represent the tribe in a White Howel. Lupins live in tribes consistig of three to twelve packs, and each pack two to ten adults (and several pups). Lupin tribes practice strict egalitarian democracy and usually operate without a leader (although elders in the tribe can often sway the votes of the younger members). Once per year, the tribe selects a spokesperson among the packs' elders as a representative. This individual cannot hold the post for longer than a year and cannot be selected again until an elder from every other pack in the tribe has acted as spokesperson. The selected elder (and retinue of unwed youths) then travels to a gathering of other spokesperson lupins from nearby tribes. This gathering, the White Howel, acts as both a meeting for important discussions among the elders as well as a chance for youg lupins to find mates from outside the tribe. A White Howel often degenerates into a celebration that lasts for up to three weeks. The lupin's semi-nomadic life centers upon villages composed of wooden longhouses built in a radial pattern surrouding a community space. In the middle of this space, the lupins maintain a continuous flame known as a bg'tyr. Even when the tribe moves from its village to wander the relatively dry plains for the three months of summer, the tribe's bg'tyr continues to burn inside a copper-lined cedar bowl. The task of keeping the bg'tyr lit falls upon a group of lupin girls too young to bear children - one such pup from each pack within the tribe. These girls, known as bg'tyr mates, often grow to prominence within the community in adulthood. Many lupin tribes consider the week of the full moon an important religious time. During the three days when the moon is brightest, hruffs from nearby villages join to form hunting packs known as ah'flir. These ah'flir packs have the specific purpose of hunting down and killing as many werewolves and other lycanthropes as possible. Personality: All lupins consider trust and loyalty the hallmarks of responsible social behavior. They generally work for the wellbeing of their community, wether a tribe, a multiracial druidic circle, or an adventuring group. A lupin always knows his duty, ad he rarely relinquishes it without good cause. Dedicated and patient, lupins excel at tasks that might require long periods of waiting, and as such make exceptional trackers, vintners, and hunters. Lupins enjoy social interactions, and despise being alone. They make friends easily, and they enjoy crowds (although not necessarily at the center of attention). Perhaps because they give their friendship and loyalty so easily, lupins hold strong grudges against those who betray their trust. Many former business partners or adventuring companies have died at the hands of lupins who felt taken advantage of or decieved. Physical Description: Built like humans with the heads of dogs, many creatures mistake lupins for gnolls or werewolves from a distance. A short coat of fur covers a lupin from head to toe, while longer, silkier hair (much like a human's) grow from the top of their heads. A lupin's body fur tends to be monochromatic, ranging from a light grey through all the shades of brown to black, with occasional lupins sporting coats of brick red or golden yellow. Extrordinarily rare white-coated lupins do exist, but few nonlupins ever see them. Many lupins have a lighter shade of their body fur on their muzzle, ears, and around their eyes, while their head hair tends twards slightly darker shades. White muzzle fur and head hair mark lupin elders. Thick leathery skin covers the palms of lupin hands and the soles of their feet, and they usually keep their clawlike fingernails and toenails cut short. Lupins have short, nonprehensile tails that they sometimes have difficulty controling (especially when anxious or excited). Relations: As social and gregarious creatures, lupins get along well with virtually all races. Only gnolls, goblinoids, and werewolves need fear inhospitable treatment from them. Lupins consider dwarves and half-orcs smelly and less desireable as compaions or guests than elves, or halflings. The musky scent of gnomes and humans also often agitate lupins' sensitive noses, but not to the extent that they avoid those races. Regardless, the metal goods that dwarves and gnomes often bring to lupin lands buy such guests lavish accomidations and sincere (if sometimes forced) invitations to return. For their part, dwarves enjoy the steadieness and patience of lupins, while elves favor their gregarious natures and love of wild places. Lupins don't care for cities and prefer settlements no larger than a small town. Alignment: Their strong beliefs in community, loyalty, and trust mark lupins as highly lawful creatures. Generosity and pity for the poor also define the race, but lupins also tend to hold grudges and refuse aid to those who have wronged them in the past. Thus, many lupins are either lawful good or lawful neutral. Only rare exceptions become chaotic or evil. Lupin Lands: Lupins tend to live within thick forests near open grasslands. Some ride fast horses or dire wolves across the steppes to bring down deer, antilope, and elk while others stay nearer their longhouses to fish or pick berries and nuts. Lupins warily watch anyone who enters the lands they consider theirs but usually allow other races to move through their territory unmolested. They actively make war against goblinoids and gnolls who venture too close to the vast swaths of territory they travel. Religion: Like many other races, lupins have a pantheon of godlike beings to who they pay homage. They call their deities Saints, which consist of lupins who achieved immortal greatness. Saint Renard, the chief lupin deity, represents what Palor does to humans. Lupins respect their deities and treat them as firsts among equals, but they neither fear nor worship those in their patheon. They find temples and organized worship fascinating, if a little silly, and rarely give more thought to their deities than a simple thanks whe they bed down for the night. Language: Lupins speak thickly accented common among nonlupin visitors. When among their own kind, they speak Lupin, a visual as well as verbal language consisting of words as well as growls, barks, and subtile shifts of the body. The Lupin language has no "s," as lupins' long muzzles make it difficult for them to create the sound. Many of their words have only one or two syllables, and begin with hard consonants. The language also tends to use the short "o" and short "u" sounds and ends many of its words with a hard 'f.' Names: Lupins usually present their young with two given names combined with a hyphen when written: one name from the father (usually one of his parents' names) and one name from the mother (usually one of her parents' names). Thus, a male pup whose grandfathers are Lab-Crott and Hector-Roff might get the names Hector-Lab or Roff-Cott. The parents usually choose which name comes first based purely on how the two names sound together. Female names make more use of "a" sounds and often end with a vowel or a trailing "n" sound. Male Names: Crott, Hector, Lab, Mattaff, Renard, Roff, Turff. Female Names: Arann, Carra, Fikenn, Loffa, Jakka, Rottie, Warra. Adventurers: Lupins adventure for many of the the same reasons as rangers or druids of any race. They excell as hunters and trackers, and tend to leave their tribes as outcasts or as youths caught in wanderlust. Lupins put aside their fears and desire to stay with their tribe in order to hunt werewolves. In a land or world infested with lycanthropes, lupins stand on the front lines and often wage personal wars against these hated shapeshifters. Lupin Racial Traits Monsterous Humanoid: As monsterous humanoids, lupins are immune to spells like charm person and hold person. Medium: As medium creatures, lupins have no special bonuses or penalties due to size. Lupin base land speed is 30 feet Darkvision: Lupins can see in the dark up to 60 Feet. Darkvision is black and white only, but it is otherwise like normal sight, and lupins can function just fine with no light at all. Acute sense of smell: In many ways, a lupin's acute sense of smell works like the scent ability, but without the automatic nature of scent. A lupin's nose allows it to locate and identify certin races and creatures by their smell, and to aid it in tracking. -A lupin automatically gets to attempt a DC 10 Wisdom check to detect a lycanthrope within 30 feet, regardless of what form the creature takes. If the lycanthrope is down-wind, the range at which a lupin can detect it is doubled. If it is upwind, the distance is halved. -A lupin has a better ability to detect and distinguish the scents of creatures than a human. This gives the lupin a +5 racial bonus on Spot checks made to oppose a known individual's Disguise check if the individual comes within 5 feet. -A lupin within 5 feet of an invisible or hidden creature is entitled to a DC20 Wisdom check to pinpoint that creature. -A lupin gets a +2 racial bonus on all Survival checks made to follow tracks. Lupin's can't track by smell alone, but the olfactory clues they find aid their tracking technique. Lupins suffer a -2 penalty on all saving throws against attacks based on odor (such as a stinking cloud spell or a ghast's stench). Expert Rider: Lupins always consider Ride a class skill, and they gain a +2 bonus on all Ride checks. Lupins rely on strong mounts while making their yearly nomadic movements, and even settled lupins purchase a horse as soon as they can. +1 bonus on attack rolls and damage rolls against werewolves. As soon as they are weaned, lupins begin learning techniques to fight their ancient foes. +2 bonus on Listen checks: Lupins have a keen sense of hearing. Automatic Languages: Common and Lupin. Bonus Languages: Elven, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Halfling, and Sylvan. Lupins tend to learn the languages of both their enemies and their friends. Favored Class: Ranger. A multiclass lupin's ranger class does not count when determinig whether he takes an experience point penalty for multiclassing (see XP for multiclass characters on page 60 of the Player's Handbook). The lupin's keen senses make them natural trackers. Lupin rangers may choose humanoid (shapechanger) as a favored enemy.
Tenzhi 03-13-05, 10:20 PM	Is that the official conversion for the Lupin from Mystara?
Sssargoth 03-13-05, 10:22 PM	Is that the official conversion for the Lupin from Mystara? Yeah, it's from the November 2004 issue of Dragon if you can get your hands on it.
NightScreamer20 03-14-05, 04:31 PM	Hmm time to join a Guild. Swinging from branch to branch, climbing across the canopy, a large metal-clad gorrilla lands outside. His body wrapped in chain, his limbs hanging down to hsi knees and standing up straight as possible. White and silver fur sprouts from spaces in the arms, and his dark brown eyes gleem from inside his helmet. His body clad in silvery-blue metal, lengths of steel chains arcing from joint to joint. A mess of black chain falls back from his helmet as if a head of hair. The armor is ethed with seals and runes of arcane origin, inbetween which run a mural of vines and leaves honoring his native lands, long since forgotten. "Ah... Somewhere I believe I can call 'Home' once again." He inhaled the smell of the forest deeply. "Quite peaceful, relaxing... And those trees will make a nice resting place... I wonder if they need a guard..." He begins to climb to the Guild House Main Entrance, curious about what kind of greeting he may attract.
Cazic 03-14-05, 04:53 PM	The young bronze that was sleeping wakes up and notices the Ape. "Hello there Monkey man" Kth says that with a smile on his face. "Welcome to the Forest Dwellers Foundation. I think I heard you say something about wanting to join am I right? Well if I am you need not worry we welcome all who like the forests of the world and if you are wanting to be a gaurd like I think you said then you can go ahead we are all like gaurds here. Foever protecting the Forsts which are our homes." Hi Screamer. I am glad to see you are back. :)
Demonfey 03-14-05, 06:00 PM	Hmm time to join a Guild. Swinging from branch to branch, climbing across the canopy, a large metal-clad gorrilla lands outside. His body wrapped in chain, his limbs hanging down to hsi knees and standing up straight as possible. White and silver fur sprouts from spaces in the arms, and his dark brown eyes gleem from inside his helmet. His body clad in silvery-blue metal, lengths of steel chains arcing from joint to joint. A mess of black chain falls back from his helmet as if a head of hair. The armor is ethed with seals and runes of arcane origin, inbetween which run a mural of vines and leaves honoring his native lands, long since forgotten. "Ah... Somewhere I believe I can call 'Home' once again." He inhaled the smell of the forest deeply. "Quite peaceful, relaxing... And those trees will make a nice resting place... I wonder if they need a guard..." He begins to climb to the Guild House Main Entrance, curious about what kind of greeting he may attract. Good to see you, Nightscreamer.
Lady Rolindin 03-14-05, 07:09 PM	could the leader send a character list of active members to the character thread , this is for the game and getting ready for the game. I know i have a character in this guild too, who is the leader of the guild.
NightScreamer20 03-14-05, 07:32 PM	The young bronze that was sleeping wakes up and notices the Ape. "Hello there Monkey man" Kth says that with a smile on his face. "Welcome to the Forest Dwellers Foundation. I think I heard you say something about wanting to join am I right? Well if I am you need not worry we welcome all who like the forests of the world and if you are wanting to be a gaurd like I think you said then you can go ahead we are all like gaurds here. Foever protecting the Forsts which are our homes." Hi Screamer. I am glad to see you are back. :) Gives a soft grunt. "Please sir... I am no man... beassured of that." His words are slightly cold but he tries to hide the indignation of being called a 'Man', wishes to be polite to those whom he will in sometime call 'ally'. Good to be back of course! He whips his chain and within a blink on an eye it extends to nearly 3 times it's normal length whipping up to the tree branch closest to the entrance of the Hall and wrapping around it, gripping with it's spines. Nearly instantly the chain beings to contract rapidly shrinking to it's normal size, pulling Oop straight upward. As the length of the chain get's to short he let's it go using the momentum created by the rapid succession, and a bit of his own strength to throw him up to the next set of branches. Grabbing on with his back 'hands' and grappling with his right arms he swings up onto the top of that branch as well and looks downward extending an open palm in which his chain gracefully spins up in to. "Ah this will make a fine post for Oop, the Silverback Guardian of the Woodlands!" He nods and begins to settle in, unpacking a tent and beginning to set it up on the branch. Have you guys set up defenses yet? If not I have some keen ideas ;)
Cazic 03-14-05, 09:18 PM	Very nice entrance sreamer. :clap: very nice. Right now we are planing on joining our defences with that of CoTP. who are also join forces with a few other guild. We are all going to be on the CoTP demiplane as one big allince. All ideas for defences would be most welcome and dont let the dragon get to you. He gives everyone but fellow dragons littles nicknames like that. He mever means anything by it he just likes push poeple's buttons. :D
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-14-05, 09:58 PM	Gives a soft grunt. "Please sir... I am no man... beassured of that." His words are slightly cold but he tries to hide the indignation of being called a 'Man', wishes to be polite to those whom he will in sometime call 'ally'. Good to be back of course! He whips his chain and within a blink on an eye it extends to nearly 3 times it's normal length whipping up to the tree branch closest to the entrance of the Hall and wrapping around it, gripping with it's spines. Nearly instantly the chain beings to contract rapidly shrinking to it's normal size, pulling Oop straight upward. As the length of the chain get's to short he let's it go using the momentum created by the rapid succession, and a bit of his own strength to throw him up to the next set of branches. Grabbing on with his back 'hands' and grappling with his right arms he swings up onto the top of that branch as well and looks downward extending an open palm in which his chain gracefully spins up in to. "Ah this will make a fine post for Oop, the Silverback Guardian of the Woodlands!" He nods and begins to settle in, unpacking a tent and beginning to set it up on the branch. Have you guys set up defenses yet? If not I have some keen ideas ;) “Well my fine, Gorrila friend. Funny you should ask. That’s been somewhat of a discussion of late.” The Half-Elven Ranger spoke. “More specifically buildings but defenses too. We’ve been discussing if we want to open a small area for refugees from the main city to come and hide…” he paused for a second. “Oh how rude of me” Harandel bows lightly “I am Harandel Half-Elven, Former Ranger of the High Forest, Harper and of course world renown outlaw, not necessarily in that order. I’m also currently ranked “Captain” and training rangers down at the sword point academy.” Thinking that he came off a little too strong he said gently “And who might you be?” -Frosty
turalisj 03-14-05, 10:19 PM	“Well my fine, Gorrila friend. Funny you should ask. That’s been somewhat of a discussion of late.” The Half-Elven Ranger spoke. “More specifically buildings but defenses too. We’ve been discussing if we want to open a small area for refugees from the main city to come and hide…” he paused for a second. “Oh how rude of me” Harandel bows lightly “I am Harandel Half-Elven, Former Ranger of the High Forest, Harper and of course world renown outlaw, not necessarily in that order. I’m also currently ranked “Captain” and training rangers down at the sword point academy.” Thinking that he came off a little too strong he said gently “And who might you be?” -Frosty "we could hire a master shaper to create a demiplane for us. all we would have to do is pay the necessary money tell him what the enviroment will be like. average air and water tempature, the level of salt. unfortunatly it only creates one 180ft, but it increases 1ft every week." turalisj said.
Dyne 03-14-05, 10:24 PM	Nightscreamer, will you ever come back to the Merchants Guild?
NightScreamer20 03-14-05, 10:37 PM	"we could hire a master shaper to create a demiplane for us. all we would have to do is pay the necessary money tell him what the enviroment will be like. average air and water tempature, the level of salt. unfortunatly it only creates one 180ft, but it increases 1ft every week." turalisj said. Gentlemen BEHOLD! THE PLANESCAPER PrC! (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=371239&page=1&pp=30) That will be the 2nd of my 3 characters... Maybe she can help? Anywho. I was planning on actually drawing up schematics for a Guild House and pasting them here... Drawing + Imagination = My Hobbies so... I'm gunna do a sketch or two and you guys can see if you like any of them. Nightscreamer, will you ever come back to the Merchants Guild? Outlook Not So Good says the Magic 8-ball. @ The Rest of You: Finishing tacking up the last of his tent, adding some finishing touches, a lantern and some bedding. He placed his chain on the branch and placed his hands on it. It grew to colossal proportions, at least 60 ft. long and each link in the chain about a foot in size itself. With a snap of his fingers the chain twisted and squirmed for a second then one end picked him up and, like an enormous metallic snake, slithered it's way along the branches and trunk to the bottom of the Guild Hall. It coiled itself up as it let Oop off it's head, then shrunk down to the size of Oop's leg and slithered up his body and into his hand. He straightened up and then bowed deeply removing his helment revealing a battle-scarred and rough gorrilla face, his skin as black as ebony and his fur silvery gray. "I am Oop, the Haunted One, the Silverback Guardian, master of Chains and Magic. So far as I've seen the only one of my kind, at least the only one of my kind that wields magics as I do anyway."
Cazic 03-14-05, 10:49 PM	"we could hire a master shaper to create a demiplane for us. all we would have to do is pay the necessary money tell him what the enviroment will be like. average air and water tempature, the level of salt. unfortunatly it only creates one 180ft, but it increases 1ft every week." turalisj said. Wait wait wait that gives me a GREAT idea. How 'bout instead of spending all that money we keep it, spend it on defences, AND just so that we cover all our bases on this we share a demiplane with someone who we are allies with and have their own plane already. Isn't that a GREAT idea! Now let me think for a second ..... who do we know that is a VERY powerful guild, has several allies that wll be on that demiplane and will share all their power with the others on that plane to make a SUPER guild that would be even more powerfull than the GoPE or HEF and has their own plane. Hmmmmmm....... Hey Necrodude, Demonofey, Thasis comover here I got a question. *three of the mostpowerful being in the ENTIER IFWG comes over* "What is it Cazic?" said Necrodude. Well I have a question who do you know that has their own demiplane, is UNGODLY powerful AND would be will to share said Demiplane and said power with us? "AS a matter of fact YES, yes we do know of such a person." said Demonfey Realy who? "US!" said Thasis :rolleyes: :P
Aramar the Black 03-14-05, 10:51 PM	Still sitting aginst a tree, the elf nods his head towards the newcomer. "Greetings, Oop. I offer you a belated welcome. I am Garth Rendor. You said you had defensive ideas. May we hear them?" And with that, the Elf sits aside the arrow he is carving atop the accumulating pile beside him, and keeps his gaze on Oop.
turalisj 03-14-05, 11:16 PM	Wait wait wait that gives me a GREAT idea. How 'bout instead of spending all that money we keep it, spend it on defences, AND just so that we cover all our bases on this we share a demiplane with someone who we are allies with and have their own plane already. Isn't that a GREAT idea! Now let me think for a second ..... who do we know that is a VERY powerful guild, has several allies that wll be on that demiplane and will share all their power with the others on that plane to make a SUPER guild that would be even more powerfull than the GoPE or HEF and has their own plane. Hmmmmmm....... Hey Necrodude, Demonofey, Thasis comover here I got a question. *three of the mostpowerful being in the ENTIER IFWG comes over* "What is it Cazic?" said Necrodude. Well I have a question who do you know that has their own demiplane, is UNGODLY powerful AND would be will to share said Demiplane and said power with us? "AS a matter of fact YES, yes we do know of such a person." said Demonfey Realy who? "US!" said Thasis :rolleyes: :P forgot to include frosty and aramir. :rolleyes: you wouldn't want to leave them out... imagine what wuold happen to your plane? :D oh, and couldn't somone just cast dispell magic while you are trying to do the ritual?
Aramar the Black 03-14-05, 11:28 PM	forgot to include frosty and aramir. :rolleyes: you wouldn't want to leave them out... imagine what wuold happen to your plane? :D oh, and couldn't somone just cast dispell magic while you are trying to do the ritual? Possibly. it proably depends on the ritual, and the various components of it.
Cazic 03-14-05, 11:28 PM	forgot to include frosty and aramir. :rolleyes: you wouldn't want to leave them out... imagine what wuold happen to your plane? :D oh, and couldn't somone just cast dispell magic while you are trying to do the ritual? Ritual? :confused:
turalisj 03-14-05, 11:28 PM	Possibly. it proably depends on the ritual, and the various components of it. it involves several spells.
turalisj 03-14-05, 11:31 PM	Ritual? :confused: Ritual: To begin this ritual they cast a Magic Circle spell inward around a seed (mostly an Acorn) that has been prepared by being soaked in a special alchemical solution for a week (this solution is easily made by the Planescaper, but may be included with a price or a quest in order to further the depth of this PrC). Next a Rope Trick spell is cast within the circle using a scarlet silk rope. After this is done and the extradimensional space is opened, a Dimensional Anchor spell is cast upon the seed, which is then placed inside the portal created by the Rope Trick spell. Before the last step, it is best for the Planescaper to remove himself from the Magic Circle. Finally, before the Magic Circle spell diminishes, a Minor Creation spell is cast onto the seed. With this there is a flare of green and white light and a dazzling display of magical energies. The rope, the circle, and the seed have all cleared and leave no trace of their existance behind, however the Planescaper can 'feel' that the Seed has been successfully completed. see above qoute.
Cazic 03-14-05, 11:42 PM	see above qoute. oh your talking about that. Ok.
NightScreamer20 03-15-05, 01:19 AM	forgot to include frosty and aramir. :rolleyes: you wouldn't want to leave them out... imagine what wuold happen to your plane? :D oh, and couldn't somone just cast dispell magic while you are trying to do the ritual? That's why the whole do it away from people thing comes into play. Or just don't tell people what you're doing in the first place...
Aramar the Black 03-15-05, 08:15 AM	That's why the whole do it away from people thing comes into play. Or just don't tell people what you're doing in the first place... Good, but Aramar also likes divination spells. And wandering around into places with people.
Frostbite_Ravenheart 03-15-05, 03:12 PM	Well obviously were not aloud to have our own characters aid one another but I'm not going to have them start attacking each other. As for taking offense...it hurt for a second but I got over it ;). Anyways I'm considering taking "Lupinal" as my race in place of Half-ELf and keep the Harandel name only to my game. Any 3.5 and/or the stats for a PC Lupinal would be very, very nice. Good day, -Frosty
Sssargoth 03-15-05, 03:21 PM	Anyways I'm considering taking "Lupinal" as my race in place of Half-ELf and keep the Harandel name only to my game. Any 3.5 and/or the stats for a PC Lupinal would be very, very nice. If you mean the Lupin race from FR, then just check Post 272 (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5666312&postcount=272) of this thread for the 3.5 update.
Demonfey 03-15-05, 05:34 PM	Sorry, I seem to be a bit late. Greetings, Oop the Haunted. {You look above you to see a demon/elf hybrid that has become very recognizable to many people look at you while hanging upside down from a branch. You then look down and see the same demon elf hybrid below you, and feel like having to lie down. Then the one beneath you dissipates.} Sorry about all the shards running around.
turalisj 03-15-05, 08:36 PM	If you mean the Lupin race from FR, then just check Post 272 (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5666312&postcount=272) of this thread for the 3.5 update. here's something, what would happen if a Lupin met a Shifter? :D shifters are descended from lycanthropes. lupins hunt lycanthropes. i think that would make for an interesting rivalry.
NightScreamer20 03-16-05, 12:42 AM	Good, but Aramar also likes divination spells. And wandering around into places with people. Go ahead, use divinations on Oop... he won't mind... *evil laughter*
Aramar the Black 03-16-05, 08:08 AM	Go ahead, use divinations on Oop... he won't mind... *evil laughter* Well, I don't think he would use them like that. I meant that Aramar might usually knows things that are going on that he shouldn't know, or that people don't want him to know, becuase of his far-seeing abilites. He's not liable to be attempting to look into someone's mind every few minutes.
Dyne 03-16-05, 03:33 PM	could the leader send a character list of active members to the character thread , this is for the game and getting ready for the game. I know i have a character in this guild too, who is the leader of the guild. Wha? You have a character here? :confused:
Dyne 03-16-05, 03:42 PM	Wait wait wait that gives me a GREAT idea. How 'bout instead of spending all that money we keep it, spend it on defences, AND just so that we cover all our bases on this we share a demiplane with someone who we are allies with and have their own plane already. Isn't that a GREAT idea! Now let me think for a second ..... who do we know that is a VERY powerful guild, has several allies that wll be on that demiplane and will share all their power with the others on that plane to make a SUPER guild that would be even more powerfull than the GoPE or HEF and has their own plane. Hmmmmmm....... Hey Necrodude, Demonofey, Thasis comover here I got a question. *three of the mostpowerful being in the ENTIER IFWG comes over* "What is it Cazic?" said Necrodude. Well I have a question who do you know that has their own demiplane, is UNGODLY powerful AND would be will to share said Demiplane and said power with us? "AS a matter of fact YES, yes we do know of such a person." said Demonfey Realy who? "US!" said Thasis :rolleyes: :P Yeah, but do you know who THE most powerful being in the IFWG is? Hmm? *Waits for a moment* And don't even think of saying Droga....
Dyne 03-16-05, 03:46 PM	Outlook Not So Good says the Magic 8-ball. Why is that? *Snatches the Magic 8-ball*
Lady Rolindin 03-16-05, 04:46 PM	don't you remember I perposed to build a tree city with my characters followers she's going to get. since we all have our own section of the forrest, and i will say it again she will not use any live trees just fallen trees fron the forest. the female half elf wiz/ranger. she's own the character thread.
turalisj 03-16-05, 04:46 PM	Why is that? *Snatches the Magic 8-ball* *this appears on the magic 8-ball :P )
turalisj 03-16-05, 04:47 PM	don't you remember I perposed to build a tree city with my characters followers she's going to get. since we all have our own section of the forrest, and i will say it again she will not use any live trees just fallen trees fron the forest. the female half elf wiz/ranger. she's own the character thread. lol. slinging spells and arrows. dangerous.
Dyne 03-16-05, 05:22 PM	*Chucks the Magic 8-ball at Turalisj* Ah yes, I remember now. My mistake.
Lady Rolindin 03-16-05, 05:48 PM	I found the class in the dragon magazine and there is a rag/wiz, rag/clr, rag/rog, ran/ass, a couple more. I made it easer on orcy since he would have to find the magazine i just used the players manual. It does bnot give a manny benifits as the magazine but a good combanation of class.the ran/wiz is d8 dp per level bt the artical, and split ranger mostly. i did leave out all fire or electric spells since she could set the forest of fire by the spells. just cold spells since most forest have snow or cold weather. it would be a shame to have someone set the forest on fire, by spell or another way. i guess she can use cold or water spells to put out fires.
Cazic 03-16-05, 11:13 PM	Yeah, but do you know who THE most powerful being in the IFWG is? Hmm? *Waits for a moment* And don't even think of saying Droga.... Ok I wont say Droga. :rolleyes:
Dyne 03-16-05, 11:14 PM	Ok I wont say Droga. :rolleyes: Actually, last time, it probably was Droga. Heh.
Cazic 03-16-05, 11:19 PM	Actually, last time, it probably was Droga. Heh. and so far it is seeming as Droga might be again, but time will tell. :shifty: *Internal monolog* Why won't anyone comment on my Spell Master PrC (see sig for class)? And I even mde a lot of changes. Why? *Internal Monolog ending*
Dyne 03-16-05, 11:23 PM	Oh yeah?! Probably. But I'll be up there with 'em, I guarantee ya. Cazic, you really ought to work on your internal monologs. They aren't "internal" enough. :P I'll take a look at it in a bit. Man, you crank those things out pretty quick, huh?
Lady Rolindin 03-16-05, 11:33 PM	This is from Dragon August 2003 Roles of the Wild by Rich Redman As a class id Dunfeons & Dragons, the ranger clearly has his roots in Aragoen fromm J. R. R Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, the class has grown. NOw it has a life of its own, and no edition of D&D would be complete witout it. Rangers are peotectors of the wilderness. Although the class description given in the players handbook mentions forests, rangers are found in every type of terrain, including the underdark and beneath the seas. Rangers are hunters, scouts, pathfinders, trackers, and explorers. While they lack a fighters feata, a paladins divine powers, or a barbarians rage, rangers have their own combat styles and a canny ability to use terrain to their best advantage, Of all the classes, only rogues can even hope to match the scouting abilities of the ranger. Skill Points: a mighty 6+ Int modifier sets the ranger above barbarians, druids, and monks. Animal empathy is no longer a skill, and intutit Direction is gone as well, but rangers now get Knowledge (dungeoneering) as class skills and Knowledge (geography). Ranger Backgrounds Rangers are self-sufficient characters that work with other rangers and individuals from other claees because they see a need to do so. As a resulty, they have no particular bias for law or chaos. some rangers prefer hierarchical oeganizations, rules, and teamwork. Others perfer to use their own initiative and work primarily alone. Rangers are usally from rural environments (but see urban Rangers below). These communities are not as wild or isolated as barbarian communities, but they are mich closer to and part of the natural world than coties. Rangers generally grow up aware of nature's rich, complex web of life alongside that of civilization. Urban Rangers There are those whose keen sense and combat skills kead them down a path similar to that of traditional rangers, but they roam the mean streets of the city rather than the wilderness. These characters are likely to br officers of the watch, bounty hunters, or spies. To play an urban ranger, use the rules from the ranger class description in chapter 3 of the Player's Handbook. Every rule mentioned there also applies to an urban ranger. With your dm's permission, however, you can adopt a few modifications desgned to make your character more effective in an urban environment: Change class skills by swapping Knowledge (geography) for Knowledge (local), and Knowledge (nature) for gater information. Trade the track feat for the stealthy feat. Take an organization or culture rather than a creature type as a favored enemy. for example, you might choose the nameless Legion, which would allow you to use your favored enemy bpnuses against mercenaries who belong to that organizatiopn, but not to other mercenaries. Be sure to make such choices in concert with your dm or you could end up with a favored enemy you never encounter. Swap out a few ranger spells for bard spells of equal level. some trades to be consider include detect snares and pits for detect secret doorsm, speak with plants for detect thoughts, plant growth for phantom steed and tree stride for dimension door. You might want to see if your dm will allow trades from different class lists as well, but don't expect to get chain lighting out of it. Class combos the revision makes it less likely that any class will "cherry Pick" other classes, only taking the first level for its benefits. Instead, characters are likly to continue multiclassing for extended periods because the combinations fit the players vision of the character. Paladins and monks, because of tgier restrictions on multiclassing are least likely to make class combos, and arn't covered here. Ranger/Bard The ranger and bard are similar in sererval ways. There is very little difference in their average hit points. Both get the same number of skill points ar each level. They even have skills in common. Rangers have a more favorable attack bonus progression and a more favorable fortitude saving throw progression. Bards have a more favorable will save orogression and begin casting spells sooner. With their combined access to hide and move silently and their very high reflex saving throw bonuses, these characters often make excellent scouts, returning to the party with news of what lies ahead, bardic knowledge related to the threat, and some ideas on hpw their abilities can enhance the rest of the party while dealing wit it. Gnomes are more likely to favor this combination than any other race. Because they treat gnome hooked hammers as martial weaponsm gnome ranger/bard are slightly more likely to take the melee combat style hd d8 skill points(6+int)*4 (after 6+int) Character Choices these characters spend skill points from both classes on climb(str). concentration (con), hide (dex), and move silently (dex0. additional ranger skill points are spent on ride and survival. Addotional bard skill points are spent on perform and knowledge (history) untill thr character has 5 ranks in the latter for the boost it gives to bardic knowledge checks. they divide remainingf skill points between knowledge (dungeoneering), knowledge (geography), and knowledge (nature) over ensuing levels. Because of their light armor and lower average hiy points, characters using this combination often pursue the ranged combat style. They rarely choose constructs, elmentals, plants, or undead as favored enemies, but otherwise display a wide variety of choices. small characters choosing this combination most often seek animal companions they can ride and that are capable of defending the character. Bigger characters seek animal companions with strong fughting abilities. Bard/ Ranger (1 Level) (2 Bab) (3Fort) (4Ref) (5Will) (6 abilities and (recommended feats) 1 brd1 +0 +0 +2 +2 6 Bardic misic, bardic,knowledge, Counter song, fascnate, inspire courage +1, 0 level bard spells, feat(dodge) 2 brd1/rgn1 +1 +2 +4 +2 1st favored enemy, track, wild empathy 3 brd2/rgn1 +2 +2 +5 +3 1st level bard spells, feat (point blank shot) 4 brd3/rgn2 +3 +3 +6 +3 combat style (ranged), ability increase 5 brd3/rgn2 +4 +4 +6 +3 inspire competence 6 brd3/rgn3 +5 +4 +6 +4 endurance, feat (precise shot) 7 brd4/rgn3 +6 +4 +7 +5 2nd level bard spells 8 brd4/rgn4 +7 +5 +8 +5 animal companion, 1st level ranger spells 9 brd5/rgn4 +7 +5 +8 +5 feat (mobility) 10 brd5/rgn5 +8 +5 +8 +5 2nd favored enemy 11 brd6/rgn5 +9 +6 +9 +6 suggestion 12 brd6/rgn6 +10 +7 +10 +7 improved combat style, feat (shot on the run) 13 brd7/rgn6 +11 +7 +10 +7 3rd level bard spells 14 brd7/rgn7 +12 +7 +10 +7 woodland stride 15 brd8/rgn7 +13 +7 +11 +8 inspire courage +2, feat (far shot) 16 brd8/rgn8 +14 +8 +12 +8 swift tracker, 2nd level ranger spells 17 brd9/rgn8 +14 +9 +12 +8 inspire greatness 18 brd9/rgn9 +15 +9 +12 +9 evasion, feat (spring attack) 19 brd10/rgn9 +16 +9 +13 +10 4th level bard spells 20 brd10/rgn10 +17 +10 +14 +10 3rd favored enemy Ranger/ cleric the ranger/cleric makes a solid undead hunter, choosing undead as his favored enemy and combined favored enemy bonuses with feats like two weapon defense and favored power attact. His high fortitude and will saving throw bonuses prepare him to succeed at saving throws invoked by undead abilities. Even more than druids or paladins, this combination makes a fine secondary healer for a party. this combination offers an excellent fortitude saving throw bonus with good reflex and will saving throw bonuses, access to spells and the ability to turn or rebuke undead. such characters bas attack bonus progressions are slow compared to a single class ranger and never get a cleric high level spells or a rangers high level abilities. They benefit from a rangers broad weapon proficiencies, but not from the clerics access to heaver armor. Fortunately, their hit points equal either a single class cleric or a single class ranger. character choices Characters choosing this combination use skill points from both classes to buy ranks in heal. Additional cleric skill points also go into knowledge (religion)(int) for the boost it gives to attempts to turn or rebuke undead. Additional ranger skill points go into concentration, handle animal (cha), knowledge (nature) (int), survival (wisd), and eother knowledge (dungeoneering)(int) or knowledge (geography)(int). the ranger/ cleric often chooses undead as its favored enemy and repeats that choice at 5th and 10th level to increase the bonuses. Characters are evenly divided on which combat style is best, since composite longbiws do as much damage as most one=handed melee weapons and undead ignore critical hits. they choose feats that support their combat style, and also take self-sufficient. The example progression on page 61 follows the melee combat style, and often chooses a light spiked shield as its off-hand weapon. Anomal companions that can dish out large amounts of melee damage are often favored by this class, particularly bears and lions. When choosing spells, characters with this combination prefer spells that aren't opposed by spell resistance since they will never have the caster level of a single class cleric. spells that affect the caster or casters allies are favored, particularly those with instantaneous durations since they are unaffected by caster level. Strong domain choices include air, death, destruction, evil, fire, good, healing, knowledge, magic, plant, peotection, strength, sun, travel,trickery, and war. Mostcommon are healing, protection, strenght, or war. cleric /ranger level class levels(1) bab(2) fort(3) ref (4) will(5) abilities and (recommended feats)(6) 1 clr +0 +2 +0 turn or rebuke undead, o level cleric spells feat (dodge) 2 clr1/rgn1 +1 +4 +2 +2 1st favored enemy, track, wild empathy feat 3 clr2/rgn1 +3 +5 +2 +3 feat(mobility) 4 clr2/rgn2 +3 +6 +3 +3 combat style (melee) 5 clr3/rgn2 +4 +6 +4 +3 2nd level cleric spels 6 clr3/rgn3 +5 +6 +4 +4 endurance, feat (two weapon defence) 7 clr4/rgn3 +6 +7 +4 +5 8 clr4/rgn4 +7 +8 +5 +5 animal companion, 1st level ranger spells 9 clr5/rgn4 +7 +8 +5 +5 3rd level cleric spells, feat (improved favored enemy) 10 clr5/rgn5 +8 +8 +5 +5 2nd favored enemy 11 clr6/rgn5 +9 +9 +6 +6 12 clr6/rgn6 +10 +10 +7 +7 improved combat style, feat (spring attack) 13 clr7/rgn6 +11 +10 +7 +7 4th level cleric spells 14 clr7/rgn7 +12 +10 +7 +7 woodland stride 15 clr 8/ rgn7 +13 +11 +7 +8 feat (power attack) 16clr8/rgn8 +14 +12 +8 +8 swift tracker, 2nd level ranger 17 clr8/rgn8 +14 +12 +9 +9 5th level cleric spells 18 clr9/rgn9 +15 +12 +9 +9 evasion, feat (favored power attack) 19 clr10/rgn9 +16 +13 +9 +10 20 clr10/rgn10 +17 +14 +10 +10 3rd favored enemy Ranger/Druid Where barbarian/ druid ebodies natures fury unleashed, the ranger druid demonstrates the cunning of nature's wiliest hunters and natures infinite patience. with a broad selection of spells, they typically take natural spell so they can cast while in wild shape. The ranger gives up some skill points and base attack bonuses progression, but gains druid spells and loses no hit points. the combunation gets both druid and ranger spells, but also has some overlapping abiliters that do not stack (wild empathy and woodland stride). fortunately, a druids animal companion ability an a rangers animal companion ability stack for the purposes of determining the power of an animal companion. the druid class cannot use metal armor, but this suits the rangers combat style restriction on armor. Character choices characters who pursue this class combination generally focys their skill points on concentration, knowledge (nature), and survival. Additional druid skill points go to spellcraft (int). additional ranger skill points go tp hide (dex), move silently (dex), and either knowledge (dungeoneering) (int9 or knowledge (geography (int). the druid/ranger is most comfortable in the grwat outdoors and prefers the ranged combat style and the feats that support it for their lethality at distances. Their favored enemies are often some type of humanoid or gaints. Dwarfs and gnomes who follow this combination prefer gaints as their favored enemy, enhancing racial benefits against those foes. Covering long distances is important ti thes characters, so they most often choose riding animals appropriate to their size as animal companions level bab(1) for (2) ref (3) will(4) abilities and (recommended feats)(5) 1 rgn +1 +2 +2 +0 1st favored enemy, track, woild empathy feat (dodge) 2 rgn1/drd1 +1 +4 +2 +2 animal companion, natural sense, wild em[pathy, 0level and 1st level druid spells 3 rgn2/drd1 +2 +5 +3 +2 combat style, feat (mobility) 4 rgn2/drd2 +3 +6 +3 +3 woodlandstride 5 rgn3/drd2 +4 +6 +3 +4 endurance 6 rgn3/drd3 +5 +6 +4 +4 trackless step. 2nd level druid spells feat (point blank shot) 7 rgn4/drd3 +6 +7 +5 +4 1st level ranger spells 8 rgn4/drd4 +7 +8 +5 +5 resist natures lure 9 rgn5/drd4 +8 +8 +5 +5 2nd favored enem, feat (shot on the run) 10 rgn5/drd5 +8 +8 +5 +5 wild shape(1/day) 3rd level druis spells 11 rgn 6/drd5 +9 +9 +6 +6 improved combat style 12 rgn6/drd6 +10 +10 +7 +7 wild shape(2/day), feat(natural sepll) 13 rgn7/drd6 +11 +10 +7 +7 14 rgn7/drd7 +12 +10 +7 +7 wild shape(3/day). 4th level druid spells 15 rgn8/drd7 +13 +11 +8 +7 swift tracker, 2nd level ranger spells, feat (mounted combat) 16 rgn8/drd8 +14 +12 +8 +8 wild shape large 17 rgn9/drd8 +15 +12 +8 +9 evasion 18 rgn9/drd9 +15 +12 +9 +9 venom imminity, 5th level driud spells, feat (mounterd arachery) 19 rgn10/drd9 +16 +13 +10 +9 3rd favored enemy 20 rgn10/drd10 +17 +14 +10 +10 wold shape (4/day) Ranger/Fighter the ranger fighteris a combination for characters who care more for combat prowess than for spellcasting or animal companions. this class combination essentially trades skill points for feats. characters that pursue this combination will never be as skilled as other rangers, but they will possess significantly more feats. combined woth the rangers combat stlye, this makes for a deadly combatant. while they can be stealthier than fighters, they aren't as stealthy as single-class rangers. their srtrenght lies in the fact that very few obstacles represent more than a delat to them ,as what they can't climb or jump over, they can swim across. the fighter class provides additional hit points, as well as fughter bonus feats. of all the races, dwarfs are the most likely to pursue this combination. dwarf ranger/fighters typically mate the melee combat style with the dwarfven urgrosh or with a shield and dwarven waraxe. character choices this class combination usally spends fighters skoll points on climb (str) and swim (str). ranger skill points go to hide (dex), survival (wis), and either knowledge (dungeoneering) (int), knowledge (geography (int), or knowledge (nature) (int). in order to take advantage of the rangers combat stylem, these characters cannot take advantage of the fighters proficiency with all forms of armor. the two classes are equally proficient with weapons. the slight edge in hit points given by the fighters larger hit die means this combination is more likely to follow the melee combat style. no favored enemy is more commonly chosen than another. the ranger/fighter favored animals are often flying creatures, as many others cannot handle the rugged terrain this combination travels. fighter /ranger level bab (1) fort (2) ref (3) will (4) ablitities and (recommended feats) (5) 1 ftr +1 +2 +0 +0 feat(ironwill), bonus feat (combat expertise) 2 ftr1/rgn1 +2 +4 +2 +0 1st favored enemy, track, wild empathy 3 ftr2/rgn1 +3 +5 +2 +0 feat (power attack), bonus feat (improved disarm) 4 ftr2/rgn2 +4 +6 +3 +0 combat stlyle 5 ftr3/rgn2 +5 +6 +4 +1 6 ftr3/rgn3 +6 +6 +4 +2 endurance, feat (weapon focus) 7 ftr4/rgn3 +7 +7 +4 +2 bonus feat (weapon specialization) 8 ftr4/rgn4 +8 +8 +5 +2 anamal companion, 1st level ranger spells 9 ftr5/rgn4 +9 +8 +5 +2 feat (cleave) 10 ftr5/rgn5 +10 +8 +5 +2 2nd favored enemy 11 ftr6/rgn5 +11 +9 +6 +3 bonus feat (great cleave) 12 ftr6/rgn6 +12 +10 +7 +4 improved combat style, feat (two weapon defense) 13 ftr7/rgn6 +13 +10 +7 +4 14 ftr7/rgn7 +14 +10 +7 +4 woodland stride 15 ftr8/rgn7 +15 +11 +7 +4 feat(greater weapon focus) bonus feat (improved sunder) 16 ftr8/rgn8 +16 +12 +8 +4 swift tracker. 2nd levl ranger spells 17 ftr9/rgn8 +17 +12 +9 +5 18 ftr9/rgn9 +18 +12 +9 +6 evasion, feat (diehard) 19 ftr10/rgn9 +19 +13 +9 +6 bonus feat (combat reflexes) 20 ftr10/rgn10 +20 +14 +10 +6 3rd favored enemy Ranger/ Rogue the ranger /rouge is second in comabt prowess only to the ranger/fighter and has the potentail to inflict a great deal more damage thanks to sneak attack damage and the two classes shared expertise in steath. ranger/rogues give monsters nightmares. this combination puts the ranger in the odd position of being the class that reduces the characters skill points. overall the combination gets more hit points than a single-class rogue and more skill points than a single-class ranger. it has good fortitude saving throw bonuses, very good reflex saving throw bonuses, and access to ranger weapons. the ranger limitation to light armor is no drawback for the rogue, who wants light armor to avoid armor penalities. this nimble, stealthy combination makes for an excellent hunter and scout. Character choices characters pursuing this combination focus on stealth, specifically hide (dex) and move silently (dex), spending skill points from both classes on those skills. Additional rogue skill points go to climb (str), jump (str), listen (wis), spot (wis), tumble (dex), use magic device (cha), and use rpoe (dex). additional ranger skill points go to knowledge (dungeoneeriong) (int), knowledge (geopraphy ) (int), knowledge (nature) (int) and survival (wisd). because of the combination's relatively low hit points, most characters pursuing it follow the ranged combat style and chooose feats to accent that. most characters do not choose constructs, elementals, plants, or undead as favored enemies since these are uneffa=ected by the ranger/ rogue sneak attack daMAGE. ANIMAL COMPANIONS ARE OFTEN FLYING (for thier scouting abilities), or feline (for thier stealth). ranger rouge level bab(1) fort (2) ref (3) will (4) abilities and (recommended feats) (5) 1 rgn1 +1 +2 +2 +0 1st favored enemy, track, wild empathy, feat (iron will), 2 rgn1/rog1 +1 +2 +4 +0 sneak attack +d6, trapfinding 3 rgn2/rog1 +2 +3 +5 +0 combat style, feat (point blank shot) 4 rgn2/rog2 +3 +3 +6 +0 evasion 5 rgn3/rog2 +4 +3+6 +2 endurance 6 rgn3/rog3 +5 +4 +6 +2 sneak attack+2d6, trapsense +1 feat (precise shot) 7 rgn4.rog3 +6 +5 +7 +2 animal companion, ist level ranger spells 8 rgn4/rog4 +7 +5 +8 +2 uncannu dodge 9 rgn5/rog4 +8 +5 +8 +2 2nd favored enemy, feat (dodge) 10 rgn5/rog5 +8 +5 +8 +2 sneak attack +3d6 11 rgn6/rof5 +9 +6 +9 +3 improved comabt style 12 rgn6/rog6 +10 +7 +10 +4 trap sense, feat (moblilty) 13 rgn7/rog6 +11 +7 +10 +4 woodland stride 14 rgn7/rog7 +12 +7 +10 +4 sneak attack +4 d6 15 rgn8/rpg7 +13 +8 +11 +4 swift tracker. 2nd level ranger spells, feat shot on the run) 16 rgn8, rog8 +14 +8 +12 +4 improved uncanny dodge 17 rgn9/rog8 +15 +8 +12 +5 18 rgn9/rog9 +15 +9 +12 +6 sneak attack+5d6, trap sense +3., feat (stealthy) 19 rgn10/rog9 +16 +10 +13 +6 3rd favored enemy 20 rgn10/rog10 +17 +10 +14 +6 rouge special ability Ranger/Sorcerer and ranger/Wizard the ranger/sorcerer or ranger/ wizard not only has a broad selection of spells, he knows which ones are most likely to give him and his party, an advantage over any particular opponent. this character can sneak into an enemy camp and unlease a silent fireball before the enemy knows he's there. while this character shoundn't be the primary fughter or the aecane spellcaster for his party, he does provide useful flexibility and a wide range of options. the list of advantagws the srocerer or wizard class gives to the ranger class is simple; arcane spells and a more favorable will saving throw bonus orogression. the ranger sacriices hit points, skill points, and base attack bonus progression for these two advantages. in addition, he suffers an arcane spell failer chance when wearing armor. fortunately, since the ranger wears kight armor anyway, this chance is faurly small( many learn mage armor and sheild ans use those instead of conventional armor). in addition, characters pursuing this combination typically follow the ranged combat style, since somatic componets require a free hand and that puts a crimp in the melle combat style. sorcerers also get familiars, and those magical beasts have sufficent intelligence and communication skills to enhance the rangers already impressive scouting abilites. character ChoicesRangers, sorcerers and wizards share concentration (con), craft (int0, nad profession (wis0 as class skills. characters pursuing this combination typically spend sorcerer skill points on concentration and spell craft (int). they typically spend ranger skill points on concentration, handle animal, (cha), hide (dex), move silently (dex), survival (wis), and either knowledge (dungeoneering )(int), knowledge (geographt (iny), or knowledge (nature) (int). most orefer bats, hawks, owls, or ravens for their familiars, because flying familiars make excellent scouts. a few however, prefer cats for improvment to the master's stealth. almost all choose animal companions for the animals melle fighting ability, using that animal as a guarding. most prefer the largers animal they can acquire, taking cover behind it whenever possible. those with cats as familiars often choose big cats as companions. most characters pursuing this occupation choose one or more kinds of outsiders as their favored enemy. ranger/sorcerer and ranger /wizard level bab (1) fort (2) ref(3) will (4) abilities and (recommended feats)(5) 1 rgn1 +1 +2 +2 +0 1st favored enemy, track, wold empathy, feat (dodge), 2 rgn1/w1 or s1 +1 +2 +2 +2 summon familiar, scroll scribe 3 rgn2 w1 or s 1 +2 +3 +3 +2 combat stlye, feat 4 rgn2 w2 or s2 +3 +3 +3 +3 5 rgn3/w2 or s2 +4 +3 +3 +4 endurance 6 rgn3/w3 or s3 +4 +4 +4 +4 feat (mobility) 7 rgn4/w3 or s3 +5 +5 +4 +4 animal companion, 1st level ranger spells 8 rgn4/w4 or s4 +6 +5 +5 +5 9 rgn5/ w4 or s4 +7 +5 +5 +5 2nd favored enemy, feat (point blank shot) 10 rgn5/w5 or s5 +7 +5 +5 +5 11 rgn6/w5 or s5 +8 +6 +6 +6 improved combay style 12 rgn6/w6 or s6 +9 +7 +7 +7 feat (arcane srike) 13rgn7/w6 or s6 +10 +7 +7 +7 woodland stride 14 rgn7/w7 or s7 +10 +7 +7 +7 15 rgnrgn8/w7 or s7 +11 +8 +8 +7 swift tracker, 2nd levl ranger spells, feat (shot on the run) 16 rgn8/w8/s8 +12 +8 +8 +8 17 rgn9/s8 or w8 +13 +8 +8 +9 evasion 18 rgn9/w9 or s9 +13 +9 +9 +9 feat (precise shot) 19 rgn10/w9 or s9 +14 +10 +10 +9 3rd favored enemy 20 rgn 10/w1o0 or s10 +15 +10 +10 +10 feats: Aracne strike (general) you can channel arcane energy into your melle attacks. prerequisites; ablility to cast arcane spells, bab +4 benefit: as a free action usable once per round, you may sacrifice one of your arcane spells for the day to grant benefitsto your next melee or ranged attack. for each level of the spell sacrificed, you gian a +2 bonus to hit and deal an extra +d6 points of damage. the bonus you gain to hit cannot exceed your base attack bonus, but if you sacrifice a spell of such a level that the bonus to hit exceeds your base attack, you still gain the normal extra damage due to the spell level. yhis feat is a supernatural ability. favored power attack (general) You are able to inflict more damage on your hated enemies. Prerequists; power attact, bab +4, favored enemy benefit; chose one pf ypour favored enemies. when you use the power attack feat that favored enemy, you masy subtract a number from your melee attack rolls and add twice that number to your melee damage rolls. if you are using a two handed weapon, add 3 times the number. the normal restrictions of the power attack feat allpy. improvrd favored enemy you know how to hit your favored where it hurts. prerequistes; bab +5, at least one favored enemy. benefit; chose one of your favored enemies, you deal an additional +2 points of damage to that favored enemy. this stacks with the rangers existing favored enemy bonus.
Cazic 03-16-05, 11:55 PM	Oh yeah?! Probably. But I'll be up there with 'em, I guarantee ya. Cazic, you really ought to work on your internal monologs. They aren't "internal" enough. :P I'll take a look at it in a bit. Man, you crank those things out pretty quick, huh? And there are more on the way! Muha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! :D
Dyne 03-17-05, 12:12 AM	Too many ha's. And you spelled mwa wrong. Nope, you'll never be an evil mastermind. :noway:
Cazic 03-17-05, 12:30 AM	Too many ha's. And you spelled mwa wrong. Nope, you'll never be an evil mastermind. :noway: If I was going to be a Evil Master mind I won't be working for one and I wouldn't be letting all the other evil people do every thing. Also I ment to have that many Has. So HA! :P
Dyne 03-17-05, 12:45 AM	Working for one? :confused:
NightScreamer20 03-17-05, 01:11 AM	Well, I don't think he would use them like that. I meant that Aramar might usually knows things that are going on that he shouldn't know, or that people don't want him to know, becuase of his far-seeing abilites. He's not liable to be attempting to look into someone's mind every few minutes. Scrying works just as well... Really Scrying on Oop's looked down upon, he REALLY doesn't like it.
Dyne 03-17-05, 01:14 AM	Oops? Heh heh heh. Oops....
NightScreamer20 03-17-05, 01:46 AM	Sorry, I seem to be a bit late. Greetings, Oop the Haunted. {You look above you to see a demon/elf hybrid that has become very recognizable to many people look at you while hanging upside down from a branch. You then look down and see the same demon elf hybrid below you, and feel like having to lie down. Then the one beneath you dissipates.} Sorry about all the shards running around. A small scowl appears across Oop's normally emotionless face. The grip on his chain tightens momentarily as he stares at the elven hybrid. The horrors of their damned college filled his eyes with hatred locked away for so very long. However he clamed himself down, although his animalistic rage still burns within him, he must keep his instincts at bay. He's come to far, become too intelligent, and learned too much to relinquish the control of his body back to the beast within. His chain still alive spins around him rapidly until finally settling around his waist, even it is unerved. "Um... sure..."
Dyne 03-17-05, 01:57 AM	A small scowl appears across Oop's normally emotionless face. The grip on his chain tightens momentarily as he stares at the elven hybrid. The horrors of their damned college filled his eyes with hatred locked away for so very long. However he clamed himself down, although his animalistic rage still burns within him, he must keep his instincts at bay. He's come to far, become too intelligent, and learned too much to relinquish the control of his body back to the beast within. His chain still alive spins around him rapidly until finally settling around his waist, even it is unerved. "Um... sure..." "Um... what's up with you?" I'm not even sure who's speaking, a squirrel I guess.
Cazic 03-17-05, 01:03 PM	"Um... what's up with you?" I'm not even sure who's speaking, a squirrel I guess. No a Ape and when I said working for one I was talking about you. Remember my Drow Wizard works for you at the Merchants Guild.
Dyne 03-17-05, 02:17 PM	I meant who was talking for me, since my dragon isn't there. So, I'm a squirrel instead. :D
Cazic 03-17-05, 02:34 PM	I meant who was talking for me, since my dragon isn't there. So, I'm a squirrel instead. :D oh. *pulls out a bow and arrow* I'm having Squirrel for dinner! :D
Dyne 03-17-05, 02:52 PM	:eek: CRUELTY TO ANIMALS! I won't stand for it! *Runs away in fear*
Cazic 03-17-05, 02:59 PM	:eek: CRUELTY TO ANIMALS! I won't stand for it! *Runs away in fear* *casts hold monster on the Squirrel* *pulls out a pot and starts a fire*
Dyne 03-17-05, 03:02 PM	*The spell has no effect* I'm not a monster. :P
Cazic 03-17-05, 03:40 PM	*The spell has no effect* I'm not a monster. :P close anuf I guesse since your not moving. :P Besides your a talking Squirrel i think that is something that can be considered a moster since Squirrels LOVE to talk and dont know when to shut up.
Demonfey 03-17-05, 05:19 PM	A small scowl appears across Oop's normally emotionless face. The grip on his chain tightens momentarily as he stares at the elven hybrid. The horrors of their damned college filled his eyes with hatred locked away for so very long. However he clamed himself down, although his animalistic rage still burns within him, he must keep his instincts at bay. He's come to far, become too intelligent, and learned too much to relinquish the control of his body back to the beast within. His chain still alive spins around him rapidly until finally settling around his waist, even it is unerved. "Um... sure..." Let me guess...you have had run ins with others of my kind that have been less than friendly?
Dyne 03-17-05, 05:48 PM	close anuf I guesse since your not moving. :P Besides your a talking Squirrel i think that is something that can be considered a moster since Squirrels LOVE to talk and dont know when to shut up. You will always remember this as the day that you almost caught Captain Nack Squirrel. *Scampers up a tree*
Demonfey 03-17-05, 06:09 PM	You will always remember this as the day that you almost caught Captain Nack Squirrel. {Grabs Nack by the tail with the aurorum hand.} You were saying? :D
Cazic 03-17-05, 06:20 PM	{Grabs Nack by the tail with the aurorum hand.} You were saying? :D *The Squirrel pops and you realize that it was a illusion.* You will always remember this as the day that you almost caught Captain Nack Squirrel. *Scampers up a tree*
Dyne 03-17-05, 06:22 PM	*The Squirrel pops and you realize that it was a illusion.* You will always remember this as the day that you almost caught Captain Nack Squirrel. *Scampers up a tree* Hey, that's my line. *Scampers up a different tree*
Cazic 03-17-05, 09:10 PM	Hey, that's my line. *Scampers up a different tree* It was you saying it you just said it through me and my post. ;)
Dyne 03-17-05, 09:34 PM	It was you saying it you just said it through me and my post. ;) :uh-huh: Cool, I'm a telepath! :cool:
Cazic 03-17-05, 10:00 PM	:uh-huh: Cool, I'm a telepath! :cool: Cool, I'm a telepath! Hey! Stop doing that!
Demonfey 03-21-05, 05:06 PM	Back onto some semblance of a topic: {Crowley clutches his head, and topples from his perch. As he falls, he fades from your sight until he just disappears. Where what was apparently an illusion would have landed, a gate opens, and a woman that is familiar to Siren and her father falls through, pulling what appears to be a body behind her. As the body comes through, it is soon obvious that it is Crowley's.}
Dyne 03-21-05, 07:32 PM	"What happened?" Again, I'm speaking through the mouth of Nack Squirrel.
Cazic 03-21-05, 10:12 PM	"Beloved!" Tyreal then runs to his wife's side, leaving behind the armor and sword he was cleaning and helps her with the body. As he runs to her you see his features for the first time. he has long golden hair that reaches down to his shoulders and his body is covered in the battle scars of countless wars. Once he reaches his wife, Petal, you gain a greater look of her. She is a moderatly aged woman, but seems to have a mythatical beauty about her that surpasses age. She is wearing leather clothing much like Sirens. She has long brown hair and eyes of deep blue that seem to have a depth deeper than the greatest ocean."Petal what happened to him?"
Dyne 03-21-05, 10:30 PM	*Nack Squirrel crawls up on Tyreal's shoulder and begins gnawing on his hair* Oh, pardon me. I tend to gnaw on things when I'm nervous. Count yourself lucky that it wasn't your ears this time.
Demonfey 03-22-05, 03:35 PM	You spot a note in one of Crowley's pockets, and the fact that he has none of his items on him except for a lone amulet. You take it out and read the message: If this note has appeared, then I have died permanently in some suicidal mission. I am currently on Carcerai if you have any questions. Where it says Carcerai, it looks as though it was put there as an after thought. In Carcerai: {Crowley looks around, and then says one word.} f:censored: .
Aramar the Black 03-22-05, 07:46 PM	So, anyone for going to Carcerai?
turalisj 03-22-05, 07:59 PM	You spot a note in one of Crowley's pockets, and the fact that he has none of his items on him except for a lone amulet. You take it out and read the message: If this note has appeared, then I have died permanently in some suicidal mission. I am currently on Carcerai if you have any questions. Where it says Carcerai, it looks as though it was put there as an after thought. In Carcerai: {Crowley looks around, and then says one word.} f:censored: . turalisj falls off the branch he was sitting on and spills the frostwine he was drinking. "watch your :censored: mouth you :censored: idiot! there is a mother :censored: chipmunk around here, and you don't know if it is a kid or an adult. so try to keep the :censored: swearing down to a mother :censored: dumb :censored: minumum!"\ ^------a drunk elf.... :D
Demonfey 03-22-05, 08:02 PM	turalisj falls off the branch he was sitting on and spills the frostwine he was drinking. "watch your :censored: mouth you :censored: idiot! there is a mother :censored: chipmunk around here, and you don't know if it is a kid or an adult. so try to keep the :censored: swearing down to a mother :censored: dumb :censored: minumum!"\ ^------a drunk elf.... :D Where'd the tree come from? This is Carcerai. The frozen petitioners trying to sell me fake rolexes gives that much away.
Lady Rolindin 03-22-05, 10:37 PM	I have placed the Fallen Rain in the guild forrest there all elven merchanair group. thta lives some wwhere in the wood s. I have to see a map of the woods or make one to know where they live. do we even have a map of the woods? if not might have to make one, to see the overall layout. the fallen rain will find you if you go loooking for them. if characters bring notes and leave them here their for the fallen rain, the letter will be in elvish wrtiien tounge. they could be watcing all of the characters even now. some of their look outs. if you have suggestion for other merchanies groups that might fit a guild area let me know, they are some sea fares merchaniers group i thinking about putting for hire in the sea fares guild. the ther groups i'm looking at guild areas and wild areas to place them. the fallen rain fit perfetlylee in this guild, they use the woods and magic to hide them selves in the woods they live in. and when hired will send out so many to fight for the one who payes them.
Demonfey 03-23-05, 07:22 PM	{In front of your eyes, the corpse turns ashen and scatters to the winds within seconds. A small portal opens near the amulet, and a pair of tongs come out to grab it, and then retract back into the portal, and an illusion forms above it. The illusion takes the form of Crowley, who then looks around.} Ah, good to see the mission was a success, at any rate.
turalisj 03-23-05, 07:26 PM	"god mother :censored: . that :censored: half0-iend dwarf told me that this was :censored: asgard. when i get my hands on that short :censored: sucking son of a :cnesored, i am going to shove his wings up his :censored: and make him wish he was never born as a dwarf! and that tree wont leave me the :censored: alone. now, i have a :censored: little :censored: dwarf to find and murder." turalisj says, before falling flat on his face, a few bottles of moondrop wine rolling out of his backpack.
Dyne 03-23-05, 07:40 PM	{In front of your eyes, the corpse turns ashen and scatters to the winds within seconds. A small portal opens near the amulet, and a pair of tongs come out to grab it, and then retract back into the portal, and an illusion forms above it. The illusion takes the form of Crowley, who then looks around.} Ah, good to see the mission was a success, at any rate. :uh-huh: OOC: What the HECK is going on? :confused:
Demonfey 03-23-05, 07:45 PM	:uh-huh: OOC: What the HECK is going on? :confused: My way of answering what happened that ended with Crowley's death.
Dyne 03-23-05, 07:48 PM	My way of answering what happened that ended with Crowley's death. Which is what? What happened? I am seriously confused.... :confused:
Demonfey 03-23-05, 10:04 PM	Which is what? What happened? I am seriously confused.... :confused: I didn't get into that yet. I'm about to go into that, as soon as I make up the main details instead of the rough outline.
Cazic 04-09-05, 08:22 PM	[deleted] please forget this post ever excisted.
NightScreamer20 04-24-05, 02:04 AM	[deleted] please forget this post ever excisted. Will do... Thoughout this time of his silence Oop has created a makeshift Outpost on a large branch of the Foundation. His magical chains crawling and snaking it's way across the trunk of the tree, until it slides around his body and slowly shrinks down to normal size, at which time it wraps and ocks itself around his waist.
Dyne 04-26-05, 12:02 AM	An elf trods across the soil of the Forest Dwellers Foundation. He dons a vibrant emerald-green robe, and he leans on an oak staff. "I represent some that are known as the Wind of Change, friends of the Children of the Planes. We would like to extend our hands in friendship to the Forest Dwellers Foundation."
Aramar the Black 04-26-05, 09:46 PM	The Elven archer comes forwad from his long-time sitting position. "My, my, but it seems that you cannot lift a rock nowadays without finding a guild of sorts under it. But I greet you yet, newcomer. And as I extend my hand to recieve yours, I ask these questions: by what name my we call you, and what are the "dogmas" of the Winds of Change?"
Dyne 04-26-05, 11:51 PM	"My name is Aust. I represent the Wind of Change, an organization dedicated to change for the better. The region is politically unstable. War is doomed to occur as warlords bid for land and the throne. The Wind of Change seeks to prevent conflict, as well as to preserve the peace and serenity of nature." "Nature is our ally, and any who acts out in violence will find the forces of nature acting out in violence against them." "The Children of the Planes are our ally. We have heard that you are also allies of them, so we seek an alliance with you on those grounds, in addtion to our similar connection to nature." "Is there anything more you would ask of us? Would you prefer we specify more on certain details?"
Aramar the Black 04-27-05, 07:23 AM	No, I am satified enough. I cannot speak for the rest of us here, but I, for one, am for an alliance.
Cazic 04-28-05, 08:06 PM	I am glad to see that there is another group that likes forests and the like. It will be good to see the power that will be gained by this alliegence. :cool:
Dyne 04-28-05, 08:11 PM	"Yes, there is always strength in numbers. The Wind of Change promises to never violate the land of the Great Forest. However, we ask for permission to establish a base in the Scorched Woods. Most of the creatures of the forest have left that area, and it would allow us to better aid the Forest Dwellers Foundation."
premier666 05-09-05, 07:57 PM	You see an elf with Black hair and Black eyes with white pupils. He wearing an old black travelling cloack that contrasts heavily with his deep white skin. he also carries an ornate bow with the simbol of Selune in it. Greetings. I am Drauguril, the white wolf. I have travelled to a lot of places and met lots of organizations, but this is the single organization so far that realy cares about nature. I would like to join your ranks to help protect the forests. In case you are wondering, I am a Night elf. (Obs: this night elves are a race made by myself, not the one from warcraft 3. Maybe one day I'll post this race on the foruns. It has an amazing story acording to all who have read it. Including me)
Dyne 05-09-05, 09:19 PM	There's a Shadow Elf (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5680531) race that someone posted up from a Dragon magazine. Perhaps you'd find that to be a little interesting.
Sssargoth 05-09-05, 09:52 PM	There's a Shadow Elf (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5680531) race that someone posted up from a Dragon magazine. Perhaps you'd find that to be a little interesting. :ahem: Thanks alot for refering to me as a "someone". Now, I eat you. :dragon: *eats Dyne*
premier666 05-10-05, 08:26 PM	Thankfully, my night elf is different. first, they are not related to drow, though some people do think that thanks to they appearance. Although, they also have a bond with shadows, but the shadows of the night, as they worship selune. the story for them is also very different as I have many different references.
Aramar the Black 05-23-05, 11:20 PM	"Hello, Master Deer, how fare thee today? Quietly, now, for it appears most poeple are gone, and those who are not are in a slumber. There has not been movement for at least a half-moon. You see how the trees make thier leafy patterns over the ground? Wondrous, is it not? That is why I love this place. That is why I craft arrows, and fight for the forest, and the children of nature. That's you too, Master Deer. I love it all. Now, I tire, so I will leave you to your hunting as I too settle down against this kind old Oak and join my good friends in thier slumber. Until later, my friend."
Demonfey 05-24-05, 01:14 PM	*Blinks a couple times and yawns* Yawn...back to slumber!
Dyne 05-31-05, 07:32 PM	:ahem: Thanks alot for refering to me as a "someone". Now, I eat you. :dragon: *eats Dyne* *Jumps back out through Sssargoth's mouth* I couldn't remember who had posted it up. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to wash your lunch out of my robes. :yuck: Only a red dragon would eat this stuff.... *Watches Aramar talking to a deer* :blink: *Whispers to a squirrel* "I think he's lost his marbles." The one known as the Stormhand strides into the midst of the Forest Dwellers. He is followed by a man in black robes with violet symbols, along with a few armed and armored guards. "I do not come here with intentions of war. I seek to establish a stronghold in the Scorched Woods section of the Great Forest. I hope that conflict between the Storm Federation and the Forest Dwellers Foundation will not occur. I promise that none of the trees of the Great Forest shall be harmed."
Aramar the Black 05-31-05, 11:44 PM	That is fine with me, Stormhand, as long as your stronghold does not overly interfere or obstruct nature in that area. And, forgive me, but you may see me hovering around there whilst you build it. What is wrong with talking to deer? Other people of my abilites and backround talk to many creatures of nature. (Note that I am a ranger/sorcerer, named Garth, in this guild Asides, sometimes the creatures of the forest are better company that the peoples of the "civilized" world. Aramar often talks to them as well, but in those instances, it is more of an empathatical thing.
Dyne 05-31-05, 11:54 PM	"Very well, hover about at your leisure." Stormhand departs, his men following at his heels. It was a joke. It was meant to imply that you were crazy for talking to an animal, but it was spoken to a squirrel. Get it? Nevermind. Here are a few things I found in the age-old archives of WotC. Spells of the Woodlands (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fw/20040710a) Monsters of the Woodlands (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fw/20040828a) Magic Items of the Woodlands (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fw/20040919a)
Aramar the Black 06-01-05, 08:14 AM	It was a joke. It was meant to imply that you were crazy for talking to an animal, but it was spoken to a squirrel. Get it? Nevermind. Heh, I get it now. Boy am I slow today. It funny. I can't believe I didn't pick up on it earlier. :embarrass :)
Dyne 08-20-05, 11:59 PM	A stag wanders into the forest. He seems lost at first, but curious about his surroundings. A moment later the stag transforms into an elf with green eyes and long brown hair, wearing robes of the color of the earth and the leaves of the forest. Rustling leaves draw his attention, and a tree strides into view. The Ent (Treant) known as Bregalad, or Quickbeam, towers over the elf. "The forest has been silent for too long, my old friend," says the elf to the Ent. He then produces a small lyre. Upon strumming a few cords, the forest itself moves and forms itself into a fortress, the walls being of living wood. The elf strums the lyre again, and some of the trees open their eyes, and reveal themselves to be Ents. "The Great Fangorn Forest must awaken, for great things are at hand. War threatens to shatter the land, and there must be someone to look after the growing things." I deeply apologize for neglecting this foundation. However, if there are still those who would like to take part in this, I still want to keep it alive, and I plan on doing the best I can to keep it an active part of the IFWG.
Dyne 08-21-05, 12:27 AM	The race of my character for this foundation (I'm simply not satisfied with the Wood Elf race). Forest Elf —+2 Wisdom, -2 Constitution —Medium Size —Base Land Speed 30 ft. —Immunity to sleep spells and effects, and a +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells or effects. —Low-light vision. —Weapon Proficiency: Forest Elves are automatically proficient with the longsword, longbow, composite longbow, shortbow, and composite shortbow. —+2 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. —+2 racial bonus on Survival checks in forests. —+2 racial bonus on Hide and Move Silently checks in forests. —-2 racial penalty on Charisma checks with creatures other than Elves. —Automatic Languages: Common, Elven. Bonus Languages: Draconic, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, Sylvan. —Favored Class: Druid.
Aramar the Black 08-22-05, 04:34 PM	At the sound of the lyre, a pile of leaves shakes, to reveal the sylvan elf sitting beneath it. Long have I traveled the darkness of my dreams. Long has this forest been silent. Long have we been gone. Mayhaps my dreams will manifest. Mayhaps they may not. But I will always be here. About the Forest ef; it look okay, but for the sword profieciencies; I can't see them training with those particular weapons.
Arshes 08-22-05, 05:04 PM	i can see the bow proficiencies, but perhaps make them proficient with the elcen courtblade?
Demonfey 08-22-05, 07:24 PM	A wolf enters the clearing, when a distortion appears around the wolf and alters its body. Flames wreathe the creature, its eyes turn black, the fur turning red, and bat wings sprout from its back. Newfound intelligence glimmers in its eyes, and, after clearing its throat, the wolf begins to speak Ah, I see nothing has really changed in my absence. A few new faces, a...tower...being erected in the Scorched Forest, but otherwise, nothing much.
Dyne 08-22-05, 07:39 PM	The proficiencies are the same as the High Elf, except I got rid of Rapier because they aren't as dexterous. I only kept it at all because they are still elves, and so would still likely have some of the same traditions shared by the other elven subraces, such as training in archery and swordplay. "Tower in the Scorched Woods? I did not notice such." He gestures to Bregalad, who moves off to investigate. The forest elf then moves inside the stronghold of living wood, at the heart of the Winding Wood, finishing some details of the fortress. Glad to see there's still some activity here. It's been too long, guys.
Demonfey 08-22-05, 07:53 PM	The proficiencies are the same as the High Elf, except I got rid of Rapier because they aren't as dexterous. I only kept it at all because they are still elves, and so would still likely have some of the same traditions shared by the other elven subraces, such as training in archery and swordplay. "Tower in the Scorched Woods? I did not notice such." He gestures to Bregalad, who moves off to investigate. The forest elf then moves inside the stronghold of living wood, at the heart of the Winding Wood, finishing some details of the fortress. Glad to see there's still some activity here. It's been too long, guys. I'm not sure. Could just be because I put my other body on autopilot, and still have the channel open. May mean I'm seeing things here that are on that world.
Dyne 08-22-05, 08:11 PM	The Ent Bregalad returns. The forest elf walks outside again, and the ent speaks to him in a strange language few recognize (Entish). The elf nods and considers this new bit of information. "You were not mistaken. There is indeed a tower in the Scorched Woods. However, I did not notice it because it is magically disguised to match the terrain. Bregalad says the tower of stone bears the symbol of the kingdom Bristol." Aramar, since you are the member who has been here longest and seems to be most connected to this foundation, would you like to become a sort of Keeper of the Trees? Basically, an In-Game guildmaster, except with less work, to make sure I do not bias the guild towards the Stormhand Federation. Mostly, you would make decisions such as for Alliances and whether or not we go to war. I can still keep the thread, design the stronghold (actually this might take a while), and figure the statistical stuff (like what to spend our gold on and the like). But, I need someone else to be a sort of "ambassador," except with more power. An overseer of the political intricacies of the guild.
Aramar the Black 08-22-05, 09:00 PM	Sure, I'll give it a shot.
Dyne 08-22-05, 09:41 PM	Awesome! I've edited the Members List to grant you the honor of Keeper of the Wood. I'll look into what alliances have already been established.
Dyne 08-22-05, 09:55 PM	For the review of all members: Alliances Children of the Planes Council of Archmages I thought we had more than that before, but I guess not. That should give a fairly accurate idea of where we stand right now.
Dyne 08-26-05, 07:43 PM	The sounds of beating drums draw your attention. Moments later, the forest echoes with the thunderous footsteps of hundreds of soldiers, all bearing the marking of the Stormhand Federation, march toward the eastern end of the forest, toward the Scorched Woods. And the trees are all just fine, none of them are on fire. There is merely a large gathering of troops in the Scorched Woods.
Arshes 08-26-05, 08:31 PM	Defend the forest! Do not let them within 50ft of the forests! We must keep them out! Show them the rage of the forests! Came the shouts of the arhcmage of thunder, Ilstar. you know, this would be a good time to decide the forests guardian. perhaps a 48hd woodling grey render? :D
Dyne 08-26-05, 08:34 PM	Arshes, are you even a member of the Forest Dwellers Foundation? And what are you talking about concerning a guardian? One of the commanders shouts out. "Hail and well met! Do not take us for enemies, for we are causing no harm. We are strengthening our garrison in the Scorched Woods. War has been declared, and the world has suddenly become a dangerous place. However, while we are here, we have been given orders to defend the forest from intruders."
turalisj 08-26-05, 08:37 PM	he's not, but i am. :P and i can take out alot of your men. (could you put a map of of where the troops are at?) The forests need no defence. Leave now and no harm may come to you. But refuse, and you shall be cut down to the last man. A voice said in the distance, echoing around. i've got a ring of invisibility, a 4ft long blade of energy, and a str score of 20.
Dyne 08-26-05, 09:11 PM	"Should you take action against us, you will be violating the agreement the Forest Dwellers have made with the Stormhand Federation. Do you wish to put the forest in danger? Do you delight in causing destruction? If not, then you will let us pass." The ground shakes with the footsteps of massive creatures, and five war trolls stride into view. I haven't actually posted up the stats for the soldiers and how many there are, etc. So there can't be any fighting yet. In any case, the Forest Dwellers Foundation agreed to allow the Stormhand Federation to set up a stronghold in the Scorched Woods. Going back on this is declaring war on the Stormhand Federation, and without provocation.
turalisj 08-26-05, 09:42 PM	I wasn't here at the time. so my character wouldn't know about any tower or anything. unless anyother guild member could show up to save your butt.
Dyne 08-26-05, 09:57 PM	In-Character, the commander just mentioned the agreement to you. You can either take his word for it, wait for Aramar to show up (he's the In-Character head of the guild), or you can act independently and attack them. Your choice.
Demonfey 08-27-05, 12:25 AM	Ah, same as ever, Turalisj. They are here by foundation agreement. You look around for the familiar voice, yet all that is visible is what appears to be a fiery wolf with large bat wings Yes, it's me, Crowley.
Dyne 08-27-05, 11:07 AM	The commander orders his formation forward, and the group of soldiers continues toward the Scorched Woods. The five war trolls growl at Turalisj and Arshes as they pass.
turalisj 08-27-05, 11:16 AM	they wouldn't know i was there dyne. :P they'd just know there was someone threatening them.
Dyne 08-27-05, 11:21 AM	Well, they growl at wherever they think the voice came from. I mean, does it really matter? Do I have to sick my walking statue on you? ;) :P
Aramar the Black 08-29-05, 06:28 PM	The wood elf known as Tirian come up amongst them members of the forest. "Calm yourselves, my friends. Rage is not the answer. We shall let them have their stronghold. However, this is the forest, and we will defend it. While they defend it as well, we are thier allies, and we shall treat them as such. Yet, I see no reason for you not to be wary. They are powerful, and we must keep watch on them. If they can hold to themselves, then we may let them be. Until they earn the wrath of the forset, truefully, then we should not give it to them. And, trust me, it is a gift they do no want. I have heard accussations here and there. Prove them, then you will have something. Prove any further offenses, and the forest should meet in swift council."
Dyne 08-29-05, 08:59 PM	Something strange seems to be going on at the Tower in the Forest. All the usual flags and banners have been replaced with black counterparts. Very little color or energy seems to be about, and the tower seems veiled in mourning. A loose formation of soldiers, mostly officers and knights, can be seen walking through the forest, toward Castle Bristol. All of them wear gloomy expressions on their faces.
Aramar the Black 08-29-05, 09:42 PM	"Death, like a cloud, has set upon the tower. So will it be. They mourn thier loss." Tirian places a hand on his avian friends, and bows his head silently as he watches from a nearby tree. Quietly, his rough voice murmurs the words of an ancient elvish hymn.
Valarian's Beloved 08-31-05, 01:10 PM	A soft voice behind them blends in with the ancient elvish hymn. A cloaked figure in hunter green stands with head bowed.
Demonfey 09-01-05, 12:40 PM	He died a warrior's death. That is all any of us can wish for.
Zombomaniac 09-07-05, 11:53 PM	Outside your halls you hear mighty thunder and see that it comes from the diraction of Bristol. As you look at it a mighty storm covers the city and lighty flashes again and again. The storm is like no other you have ever seen and looks almost alive.
The Vorpal Tribble 09-23-05, 03:04 PM	Heyas, everyone come and vote for their favorite monster at the UnCon Monster Creation Contest: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=507195
Abicus Acton 10-08-05, 01:15 PM	A figure can be seen flying overhead on a broomstick. He then lands on the forest floor and takes a look around. Abicus clears his throat. "Hello," he says to the seemingly empty forest. "I am Abicus Acton. I come here in the hopes of peace. Well, you see, I am the headmaster of Conscientia, Academy of Magic. We would like to build our Academy on the edge of the Winding Woods, if the inhabitants of the forest would permit." He patiently awaits an answer, if one will come.
Aramar the Black 10-10-05, 05:43 PM	A cat-like elf comes down, suddenly, from one of the trees. "Hm. Long have we slept. Sleep seems a common problem in this forest. May you build near here? A careful question. Once, perhaps still, is there a tower near this forest; one which caused great dispute. As a Keeper of this forest, this I say; unless disagreed upon by any who may awaken and object, you will be permited to build your school near the edge of this forest. However, I ask that you would follow these charges. We will have a peace truce between yourselves and your allies, and ourselves and ours, so that neither may fear attack, at the least. Break this bond, or any other, and you suffer the arrows. Also, you shall release nothing unnatural into our woods. We will keep to ourselves, and you shall keep to yours, unless a comon threat should confront us both. Again, the arrow is the judgement. Now, what say the peoples of the forest, who have for so long slept, and the poeple of the arcane?"
Wilds 10-10-05, 05:57 PM	A lone wolf wanders into a clearing. It looks around then rears onto its hind legs. It shifts into a man. Wearing clothing marking him as a normal citizen of a town he speaks. "May I speak with the watchers of this land?"
Aramar the Black 10-10-05, 06:01 PM	A quick look of suprise crosses the elf's face. Then it is impassive. He gestures towards the newcomer with a wave and a nod, motioning him to speak.
Wilds 10-10-05, 06:07 PM	"I come seeking a home and sancuary. I was driven out of my last home by self rightous clerics. They believed that I am evil and that I must be killed at all costs. While they had reason to dislike my kind, they were not warrented in attacking my home and "cleansing" my house. I lost my family, something I will never forget. But I will not retailate, for that will only give them more reason to hate my kind. I ask for your permision to live in on this ground and to live freely."
Aramar the Black 10-10-05, 06:33 PM	The elf looks at the newcomer, empathy and kindness softening his face. "Certainly, you may find sanctuary here. I too, am one who is not wholy what he seems, and still cringes at the sight of the glowing full moon. I, too, lost my life, to the unscrupulous who serve "higher" powers. Be at peace with us, and we shall be at peace with you. I am Tirian; by what name are you known?"
Wilds 10-10-05, 06:56 PM	"I no longer use my human name, it means nothing now. I am Blood Fang. I will live in peace here and aid in teh defense of the land."
Aramar the Black 10-10-05, 07:05 PM	"It is good. Mayhaps, you may find the others asleep in the forest, buried under the leaves of the coming autumn."
Abicus Acton 10-10-05, 07:22 PM	A cat-like elf comes down, suddenly, from one of the trees. "Hm. Long have we slept. Sleep seems a common problem in this forest. May you build near here? A careful question. Once, perhaps still, is there a tower near this forest; one which caused great dispute. As a Keeper of this forest, this I say; unless disagreed upon by any who may awaken and object, you will be permited to build your school near the edge of this forest. However, I ask that you would follow these charges. We will have a peace truce between yourselves and your allies, and ourselves and ours, so that neither may fear attack, at the least. Break this bond, or any other, and you suffer the arrows. Also, you shall release nothing unnatural into our woods. We will keep to ourselves, and you shall keep to yours, unless a comon threat should confront us both. Again, the arrow is the judgement. Now, what say the peoples of the forest, who have for so long slept, and the poeple of the arcane?" "We are not a political group, merely a school. We do not have allies or enemies, only friends and scholars. However, I do guarantee that no harm shall be caused to this forest from any of our Academy. Additionally, I agree to all of your conditions." I don't think we will need to "release anything unnatural" into the woods. There will probably be enough strange creatures to make it interesting enough. However, I still want to pursue the possibility of enchanted streams, and possibly an enchanted portion of the forest. Fairy Tales are full of such things, like the stream in Mirkwood that puts people to sleep (from The Hobbit). But, I've never seen any D&D rules for this, which is really a shame.
Wilds 10-10-05, 07:39 PM	"I shall sleep in a few days, I wnat to explore this place more. This is a new part of the world to me. I shall not cause harm so do not feel, I will mearly observe."
Aramar the Black 10-10-05, 09:32 PM	"We are not a political group, merely a school. We do not have allies or enemies, only friends and scholars. However, I do guarantee that no harm shall be caused to this forest from any of our Academy. Additionally, I agree to all of your conditions." I don't think we will need to "release anything unnatural" into the woods. There will probably be enough strange creatures to make it interesting enough. However, I still want to pursue the possibility of enchanted streams, and possibly an enchanted portion of the forest. Fairy Tales are full of such things, like the stream in Mirkwood that puts people to sleep (from The Hobbit). But, I've never seen any D&D rules for this, which is really a shame. "It is good, then. Strange is perspective. Some who live in the forest may seem strange to you, but they are perfectly natural creatures; the children of the woods. I have seen that which is unnatural; abberations, undead, and other pitiful or monstrous things created by arcane magics. In the past, I have seen such creations wreak havoc on the places of nature. Don't lose control, if ever you stray into such foul arts. If you wish to come learn of magic streams and lakes, walking tree shepherds, living stone monoliths, and the music of the animals, you may. But be wary with every step. For not all things are, as one might say, kind. Civilization is sometimes seen as a plaugue in the deep woods, and arcane magic a blasphemy. The magical things you seek fall more under the purview of the fey and forestals. But, if indeed you show respect and calm, then I may share and discuss with you some mysteries of the forest."
Abicus Acton 10-10-05, 10:19 PM	"Strange is perspective. Some who live in the forest may seem strange to you, but they are perfectly natural creatures; the children of the woods. I have seen that which is unnatural; abberations, undead, and other pitiful or monstrous things created by arcane magics. In the past, I have seen such creations wreak havoc on the places of nature. Don't lose control, if ever you stray into such foul arts. If you wish to come learn of magic streams and lakes, walking tree shepherds, living stone monoliths, and the music of the animals, you may. But be wary with every step. For not all things are, as one might say, kind. Civilization is sometimes seen as a plaugue in the deep woods, and arcane magic a blasphemy. The magical things you seek fall more under the purview of the fey and forestals. But, if indeed you show respect and calm, then I may share and discuss with you some mysteries of the forest." Just making sure you knew all the uncolored parts of my post were not in-character. I suspect strange, in that sense, would be anything not common (or present at all) in our own world, especially that which is uncommon even for D&D. As it is my understanding, people are free to make whatever creations they wish, as long as they are approved by the people in charge before they are used. So, I can imagine many types of new forest creatures in this foundation.
Wilds 10-10-05, 10:19 PM	Over hearing the conversation about arcane magic and the forest Fang turns and walks out fo the clearing.
Aramar the Black 10-10-05, 10:43 PM	Just making sure you knew all the uncolored parts of my post were not in-character. I suspect strange, in that sense, would be anything not common (or present at all) in our own world, especially that which is uncommon even for D&D. As it is my understanding, people are free to make whatever creations they wish, as long as they are approved by the people in charge before they are used. So, I can imagine many types of new forest creatures in this foundation. Yes, I knew, but I thought it would be possible to answer them IC, so as to both repliy to the comments, and give futher insight into Tirian's thoughts on the matter.
Abicus Acton 10-10-05, 10:53 PM	Abicus looks around at the forest. "This is a very wonderful and peaceful place. I wonder if this may be considered, although it may seem like an awkward request from one such as myself: Can I join this foundation? Will you recognize me as a denizen of the forest, as a symbol of my peaceful intention?"
Aramar the Black 10-11-05, 07:09 PM	Tirian looks at Abicus for a long time, his eyes, slanted, judging. Finally, he speaks, quietly: "Mayhaps, you will be goodly person to be here. You may enter here as a denizen of the forest. But be always mindful; arcane magic walks uncertain ground here, and thus your path be too be shaky. But, mayhaps, if you walk such a road, you will be with support."
Aramar the Black 11-08-05, 09:38 PM	Wilds, you still here? Abicus? ANybody else want to be a part of this place? Perhaps, to anyone who answers, we should start a new thread, seeing that our beloved founder is gone?
Wilds 11-08-05, 09:44 PM	Im here, my char is the GoUE right now though. Ya start a new one. Dyne is still here somewhere he just chooses to no longer post, but he watches so its close enough I guess....
Demonfey 11-08-05, 09:53 PM	I'm here. I think it's time for a new guild, too.
Aramar the Black 11-08-05, 10:04 PM	And so I present: The Foerst Dwellers Foundation, Reborn (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=7705727#post7705727)