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| Ouroboros06-18-03, 05:47 AM | Who cleaned this up where are al the ale barrels i saved for a rainy day? Where is the Foundation list... a there it is #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 Deago_Of_Kord The Korobokuru stands tall MAN!!! attention!!! post! We start a new :smirk: We support Hill Dwarfs Mounton Dwarfs Grey Dwarfs Derro Deep Dwarfs Azer Shield Dwarfs Gold Dwarfs Artic Dwarfs Wild Dwarfs Korobokuru's Gully Dwarfs (Jade Dwarfs) :p and any other sub race i forgot In other words all Dwarven Side note this is no fighting ground for Elfs and Dwarfs alike so behave understood :mad: |
| weaponsmith06-18-03, 11:29 AM | It's great to see everything back up and running. So boys back to the mines and forges.:) |
| Ukkodin06-18-03, 12:45 PM | In honor of the new boards, I shall strive to smith a new axe, one equal to our ancestors, as good as the ale that I am sure my brewing brethren are working on at this very moment. |
| AegisBane06-18-03, 03:55 PM | I'm in, can't believe I missed this one on the old boards. Dwarves are gettin quite a boost in 3.5e. Urah! |
| Narethkraag06-18-03, 04:22 PM | HEHE, it took a little longer to reach the new boards because dwarfs are slower....... but they are finally here.:D |
| DeepwoodElvenArcher06-18-03, 04:24 PM | As Cheiftan of the Elven tribes of the boards, while our kin shall last, I offer my friendship to the vailiant dwarves. Too long have we fought bloody battles for no apparent reason, and let us say now, that a war between us would be entirely in vain. Is our friendship returned? |
| weaponsmith06-18-03, 04:54 PM | Peace has returned to the Dwarves and Elves but friendship has to be earned. Good thing we both live along time. Did anyone see what changes they did to the Dwarves in 3.5? |
| Kevmann06-18-03, 04:57 PM | I never knew there was a war between the elves and dwarves. I just thought they stayed in there respective kingdoms and left each other alone. |
| AegisBane06-18-03, 05:17 PM | There has been 2 major war posts about Elves vs Dwarves. As far as 3.5e dwarves(this info comes from another board member((no not Sarge))). They get Wep.Prof. Dwarven Waraze and a +4 bonus against bullrush/???(dunno ther other thing). I'm out |
| Womlet06-18-03, 10:11 PM | Dwarves vs. elves :bored: Dwarves + elves vs..... the HUMANS!!!! :eek: I think it would be interesting. |
| Riggoras_4406-18-03, 10:39 PM | Such thing as a Dwarf vs. Elf war would never really be factible. Why? The truth, it's simple. Dwarves, simbols of civilization and progressdom, go down the mountain into the savage forests that constitute the lands of the brutish, wild, monkeyish, and way inferior Elves, to chop down trees to make such important products like spoons and the like. The barbaric, untame Elves are easily intimidated by such shows of outright dwarven superiority like the uprooting of trees with their bare hands, the handling of their manly beards, and the shine of their mastercrafted shiny iron (which, did I mention it? is shiny). When the Elves go berserk for some barbaric and stupid reason over the perfectly logic right the Dwarves have to own the world due to their superiority, usually they are pacified by getting nailed into the trees. With the little finger. And then the forest is burned out to build much better and much superior forges, alchemy labs, and other fancy dwarven stuff in its place. Happy ending. :angel: He he, isn't that a nice story? Reminds me of some alternate reality. |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-18-03, 10:59 PM | Deep are the Dwarven Halls, and stronger than the Foundations of the Earth (i.e. galadriel-goes-psycho) are the Dwarves.:bow: See then, Great Hearts - those Dwarves who can see past the limits of the Flesh and of Culture to see our kinship with thee. Elen Sila Lumenn Omentielvo - the Peredhil (half-elves) would celebrate thee. Silmarien |
| Ouroboros06-19-03, 03:21 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 Deago_Of_Kord #0000000034 AegisBane Welkome back fellow dwarfs! And a big welcome to you AegisBane ! |
| raggerd06-19-03, 03:42 AM | Praise Moradin, I've found the dwarf in me. Can I join the foundation? |
| Monikerrpg06-19-03, 06:39 AM | Just wondering if you have actual discussion in these foundation threads, or not? Anyway, has anyone read the Dragon magazine 'House Rules' article about dwarves with a -2 to Dex instead of Charisma? and the ideas on how to balance it? I liked the idea, but which way would you go to balance it, a +4 to con straight up, or a few well placed racial bonuses to things like open lock? Just curious. No, not a member of any racial foundation. I play them all. No, not a member of a class foundation, I play them all. Member of Nothing Sucks... well, yeah. :angel: |
| Ouroboros06-19-03, 06:48 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 Deago_Of_Kord #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd We welcome raggerd in our mits Huraaaai!!!!!! South Holland me to the korobokuru nots There where a few topics going on at the old board. 1. Bearded dwarf woman YES or NO ? 2. How bald are Grey Dwarfs 3. Monikerrpg youre topic is a good one (how to balance a costum penalty for -2 dex? a +4 to con straight up, or a few well placed racial bonuses to things like open lock? ) 4. Lets start a new one alright: What do you dwarf lovers :) think about sub races Korobokuru, Wild Dwarfs, Gully Dwarfs ect. Do we have to much? are they better or worse then the elven sub races? Do you really love one or hate one? Monikerrpg we are not saying the dwarf is more powerfull then let's say elfs. But that we really enjoy roleplaying as dwarfs you mith consider to join the all races foundation |
| raggerd06-19-03, 07:59 AM | 1. Bearded Dwarf Women: YES, stone is cold and need somthing to stay warm. 2. Never met a Grey Dwarf before, stayed with my forge. 3. +4 to CON is problably best if compensated with anothers ability decrease as dwarves already a bit frontloaded on extra's. 4. Seems a bit much subraces voor Dwarves, feels like we're mimicking the elves. Although more dwarves can never be bad. |
| weaponsmith06-19-03, 08:38 AM | I would hate to see the dwarves become like the elves and have every color of the rainbow. Dwarf are plain and simple. Don't mess with them. I don't mind alittle changes to abilitys but i would hate to see, white,blue,tree,rock,brown,yellow dwarves. Sorry elves, you can keep it. Does anybody know what is the new bonus the dwarves get when wearing med & heavy armor. Wizard said something about it in the new magazine. |
| Ouroboros06-19-03, 08:49 AM | I like Korobokuru, Derro, Hill, Mountan the most the dwarven subraces are more different from each other then the elfs are and that is a good thing:) |
| AegisBane06-19-03, 09:29 AM | Dwarves can move at full speed even in heavy armor. to clarify, they can move 20 ft a round in heavy armor not 30. This basically lets any of the classical heavily armored tank dwarves keep up with the rest of the party. Personally I stay within the realsm of hill and sheild dwarves, with some deep dwarves thrown in if the campaign ever breaches the surface. |
| Riggoras_4406-19-03, 10:39 AM | I don't know, in Icewind Dale II there was a portrait for a rather good-looking Dwarven girl fighter without a beard. And you know, Icewind Dale is cooold.:cool: |
| Ukkodin06-19-03, 12:54 PM | 1. I've never pictured Dwarven women as having beards, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. 2. Grey Dwarves are real? Never having met one, I thought they were mythical. :D 4. Let's not get *too* carried away with the subraces, otherwise the non-dwarves might get as confused as I am about the various elven subraces. However, my favorites have always been the Mountain and Hill Dwarves. |
| TracerBullet706-19-03, 02:03 PM | Ooh i wanna join the dwarven foundation. I like playing dwarves and i hate all the misconceptions about them. Everyone in my party assumes i am gross and stinky but i attempt to change that by taking regular showers. Well okay, maybe not that regular. |
| Womlet06-19-03, 02:22 PM | I think dwarven women with beards is the lamest thing ever. So I'm in the no category :) And I prefer few subraces. If I was DMing I'd drop most of the elven ones too. |
| weaponsmith06-19-03, 02:26 PM | Showers!!! That means i have to get wet or be near water. I don't thinks so. I'll just stay in the mines and if you don't like my smell you can leave. |
| Riggoras_4406-19-03, 02:44 PM | Excuse me, but your fellow players are RPing wrong, Tracer Bullet. Everyone knows humans are the ones who always stand on the smelly side, for all fantasy settings. Dopplegangers think humans smell. Undead think humans smell. In Warcraft III, Orcs think humans smell. Your Dwarf could stay sweating in a mine hellhole for a year and yet not compare to human smell. Mmh... Maybe you could create a spell to make anyone smellier than humans. The spell would be named "Smellier than Human". |
| Tzor06-19-03, 03:02 PM | Dwarf women should be bearded. One could make an argument for dwarven women shaving, but I'm afraid it belongs in another forum. ;) Having said that, a dwarven woman's beard should look a lot different from a dwarven male's beard. Neat and petite might be more proper. And perhaps halfway between the shaved face and the short beard is the goatee. A dwarven male's beard should be big enough that you can make a pony tail out of it. |
| TracerBullet706-20-03, 01:41 AM | Sounds like fun spell. i'll run it past the dm. |
| Riggoras_4406-20-03, 03:07 AM | Stylish female dwarf beards... Why didn't I think of it before? You're a genius, Tzor! Well, maybe we should get it on paper to see if it works or not. |
| Ouroboros06-20-03, 03:38 AM | Originally posted by Riggoras_44 Stylish female dwarf beards... Why didn't I think of it before? You're a genius, Tzor! Well, maybe we should get it on paper to see if it works or not. It stans in the FR source book |
| Ouroboros06-20-03, 03:41 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 Deago_Of_Kord #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 Always glad to welcome a fellow stinker :rolleyes: |
| Tenzhi06-20-03, 05:08 AM | IMC there are no Dwarven women, so the question of beards on them is moot. And out of all the sub-races, I'm kind of partial to the arctic dwarf (though the Azer is my favourite dwarf-like race). |
| Mustardmachine06-20-03, 05:40 AM | Do dwarves actually like being called lawn ornaments? :smirk: |
| Ouroboros06-20-03, 05:51 AM | Watch it i don't see it as a insult but you are trying. Watch it half blud watch it :b: |
| weaponsmith06-20-03, 08:37 AM | Look mustardmachine. We finally have peace with the elves. So keep your half breed comment to yourself. I heard that in 3.5 the dwarf won’t get the speed reduction for armor. It’s about time. I hate how the dwarves where classified as medium but were penalized in movement like small creatures. Nothing like Dwarven tanks. |
| raggerd06-20-03, 11:06 AM | For all the amazing stuff the dwarf receives I never found the speed reduction to be a bad thing. My enemies were more than willing to step into my swinging axe and doing the moving for me. The after a few times after running unseccesfully after some enemies I bought him boots of springing and striding. The addition of no speed reduction for wearing medium and heavy armor to an already excellent abilities for any race however makes me fear that dwarves will be more godly then they already were. The good side is that undoubtedly more people will find their inner dwarf and play one. |
| weaponsmith06-20-03, 11:17 AM | I don't think the speed reduction will make too much of a difference, But it will be nice for the dwarf to be at the same speed as a human in full plate. I mean the base speed is still lower then the average med creature, it just now they would get penalized again for armor. |
| Riggoras_4406-20-03, 11:57 AM | Well, to me Dwarven speed always made sense. They've got shortie legs, another thing that makes them charming along with the (so much that it's criminal:eek: ) manly beards. But with the bonus to Bull Rush and Trip, now they will be absolutely uber! A Dwarf Wizard will be able to Bull Rush a Fighter of any other race and win the check! Still, they're shorter than humans. |
| weaponsmith06-20-03, 12:02 PM | I'm not to shore i like the bull rush and trip thing. But in our game we almost never use bull rush. |
| Kevmann06-20-03, 12:04 PM | WHAT, yall are declaring peace with the elves? Were is your pride for your race and those ancestors that died at the hands of the elves before? DO THEY NOT DESERVE VENGANCE? Of course, you wouldn't have this problem with humans, they have no deep seated grudge against any other race. Want to join the foundation? Just click on the link in my signiture and have a good day :D :D :D |
| Riggoras_4406-20-03, 12:14 PM | He he, glad to see the No. 1 is doing his job. Or is it rather MY job?? Whoops! |
| Ouroboros06-20-03, 01:28 PM | Originally posted by Kevmann WHAT, yall are declaring peace with the elves? Were is your pride for your race and those ancestors that died at the hands of the elves before? DO THEY NOT DESERVE VENGANCE? :D :D :D Save youre breath Kevmann we forge are own weapons thank you. Human:rolleyes: |
| Orcy The Green Wonder06-20-03, 01:46 PM | HAH! Dwarves using human weapons *smacks his knee* thats a good one! Orcy doesn't know any dwarf that would be caught dead using a human weapon unless he absolutely had to because there wasnt annything else to fight with. Whew, Orcy's side hurts. |
| weaponsmith06-20-03, 01:48 PM | The funny thing about human is that by the time they get organized, they’re too old to do anything. I think I would trust an elf before a human, just b/c the elf can build my trust over many years unlike the human that only have a good 20 years to do anything. First 17 to young the next 20 are good and the last 20 you to old and beat up. I got a ? What type of food do Dwarfs like? besides Ale |
| Kevmann06-20-03, 01:53 PM | Of course not, I am just trying to get yall back in touch with something you have lost, the origional color of your bellies, yellow just does not suit dwarves. You are a proud race, stand up against the elves, do not ally with them, then all others will see that you are just as weak as they are! |
| weaponsmith06-20-03, 01:59 PM | I might have said there is peace but i wouldn't go as far as say we are allies. That doesn't mean we lossed or won the war, but if you think we our yellow then lets see the color of your human bellies when my axe cuts through it. |
| Kevmann06-20-03, 02:03 PM | No, I don't think dwarves are yellow, but having peace with the elves :( it doesn't look good *shakes his head* |
| weaponsmith06-20-03, 02:11 PM | I will let you humans in on a little secret. “Peace” in Dwavren means a brake to resupply our armies. Do you understand. My human friend. |
| Kevmann06-20-03, 02:17 PM | Completely *smiles* |
| Riggoras_4406-20-03, 02:21 PM | I wonder, why would Dwarves like the Elves in the least? Humans don't have a problem with living in a city shaped out of the rock, but go ask an Elf... Elves don't make good partners, because they can't even handle the "friendly ale" without hitting the ground with their faces. |
| Orcy The Green Wonder06-20-03, 02:43 PM | Dwarves, do not start up anything with the elves again. Not from that Human's attempts to get the two of your races fighting. What do you think hes attempting to do? If you and the elves go to war, who do you think would benefit? The Humans. THey would work as mercenaries for the armies, they would supply both armies while gaining gold and other values. You have met Humans, there is always some other motive behind what they do. |
| Kevmann06-20-03, 02:49 PM | I am appalled that you would accuse us of such a thing, all I wish is to see the dwarves brought back to their former glory, and nothing else. |
| Riggoras_4406-20-03, 02:50 PM | You're very witty, Orcy. But I should have expected that from someone as Green and Wondrous as you. Actually, I did. And now, it's too late. No one can stop the humans! MWA HA HA HA HA!!! **throws a smoke bomb** **disappears** |
| DeepwoodElvenArcher06-20-03, 08:25 PM | Originally posted by Kevmann WHAT, yall are declaring peace with the elves? Were is your pride for your race and those ancestors that died at the hands of the elves before? DO THEY NOT DESERVE VENGANCE? Of course, you wouldn't have this problem with humans, they have no deep seated grudge against any other race. Want to join the foundation? Just click on the link in my signiture and have a good day :D :D :D Listen to this! Dwarves, do not believe him! He is simply a warmonger! He tried this same thing on us elves, saying you were barbarians! He claimed that the "crimes" you commited should not be forgiven. He is simply trying to turn us against each other and start an giant flame war! Come, we draw swords together dwarves! Drive this warmonger back to his petty human foundation! Caela ie'lle! (Have at thee!) |
| Kevmann06-20-03, 09:06 PM | Listen to this! Dwarves, do not believe him! He is simply a warmonger! He tried this same thing on us elves, saying you were barbarians! He claimed that the "crimes" you commited should not be forgiven. He is simply trying to turn us against each other and start an giant flame war! Come, we draw swords together dwarves! Drive this warmonger back to his petty human foundation! Caela ie'lle! (Have at thee!) I will let you humans in on a little secret. “Peace” in Dwavren means a brake to resupply our armies. need I say more, it has already begun. |
| Riggoras_4406-20-03, 09:24 PM | Indeed, the Human foundation has already achieved its purpose. Now that the Dwarven foundation and Elven foundation have become less pleasing places to post at due to the cross-fire, everyone will want to join OUR foundation! How's that? How are you going to stop it? You C A N' T! Because humans rule! |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-20-03, 09:34 PM | I come to apologise for a rogue voice from our foundation. :bow: As First House of the Half-Elven it is my responsibility. :cool: While our dear Mustardmachine's passion for Elvendom runs deep, his tongue is loose when it comes to matters of tolerance. I am ashamed - for he also goads visiting Dwarves at our foundation and I will not suffer it. The Dwarves are eternally welcomed at the Half-Elven Halls, where you will find Dwarf-grade ale, stone delvings (that we would invite you to improve) well cooked meats, and all in abundance. Mustardmachine has been ordered to declare his grievances, that we may encourage teach him temperence and tolerance. But, alas, on the Journey here, I see some members with a warish word or two towards the Elves. Ai! Ouroborus, we must convene and discuss the fate of our kindreds, and avert harm. * hands you a Scroll * * contains invitation to Convene at Half-Elven Halls - invitation is for leader and all Dwarf-folk - * matters of relations betwixt Dwarves and Elves to be the focus * * in case 'location' is at issue, proposed that Foundations take turns for location * Again, :bow: Stronger than the Foundations of the Earth are the Dwarves, and Earthbrothers. May Moradin grant the Grace to see past the limits of flesh and culture to see our kinship with thee. Be welcomed in the Half-Elven halls. Silmarien |
| Tenzhi06-21-03, 07:24 AM | As much as I detest elves, it would be wiser to wipe out the humans first as they breed like goblins. And they are unpredictable and treacherous like the goblins as well. Hmmm... indeed, they are so much like goblins that one wonders at their heritage... |
| DeepwoodElvenArcher06-21-03, 09:48 AM | Originally posted by Tenzhi As much as I detest elves, it would be wiser to wipe out the humans first as they breed like goblins. And they are unpredictable and treacherous like the goblins as well. Hmmm... indeed, they are so much like goblins that one wonders at their heritage... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Say, Tenzhi, what race are you, per se? |
| DeepwoodElvenArcher06-21-03, 09:50 AM | Curse the blasted double post! |
| Tenzhi06-21-03, 09:58 AM | Originally posted by DeepwoodElvenArcher :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Say, Tenzhi, what race are you, per se? Perhaps the oldest and greatest. The first and father of our kind is said to have created the gods. Though, when walking among lesser beings I generally prefer to take the shape of a Dwarf or gnome. |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-21-03, 07:13 PM | Ah must agree wi' Tenzhi. Tha 'oomans be too treacherous to let 'em keep wanderin' aroond, plottin' ahind our backs. 'at bit aboot 'eir 'eritage were worthy o' a dwarven comedian. Tha 'oomanse tryin' ta goad us inta war, an' it bain't Dwarven at all ta let others tell us what ta do. The elves have done nuthin' ta earn our 'ostilities. Let them live in our trees, an' we can live in our mountains. Leave tha elves alone, an' they'll leave us alone. An' iffen 'ey don't, we'll wipe 'em out! Baint no body breakin' a Dwarven fortress. |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-21-03, 07:15 PM | Oh, an' add me name ta yer list, iffen ye please, great an' mighty Dwarven Thane:bow: |
| DeepwoodElvenArcher06-21-03, 11:16 PM | Originally posted by Kazoron Mithrilaxe Ah must agree wi' Tenzhi. Tha 'oomans be too treacherous to let 'em keep wanderin' aroond, plottin' ahind our backs. 'at bit aboot 'eir 'eritage were worthy o' a dwarven comedian. Tha 'oomanse tryin' ta goad us inta war, an' it bain't Dwarven at all ta let others tell us what ta do. The elves have done nuthin' ta earn our 'ostilities. Let them live in our trees, an' we can live in our mountains. Leave tha elves alone, an' they'll leave us alone. An' iffen 'ey don't, we'll wipe 'em out! Baint no body breakin' a Dwarven fortress. I must say, master dwarf, that is a masterfully typed accent! |
| Orcy The Green Wonder06-21-03, 11:28 PM | Orcy knows this particular dwarf, and you should see him RP, whew, hes the closest to a dwarf if I've ever seen one. You get a HOOAH for this one kaz, HOOAH! http://www.geocities.com/orcythegreenwonder/orcysword.txt |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-22-03, 03:55 AM | re: Accent of Dwarf. I AGREE! Well crafted very! sil: the Userper Kevmann defies the First of the Human Halls - Grimclaw would summon the Dwawarrodelvers to his Aid in the Human Foundation where Kevmann, an army of Orcs, all the Great Houses of the Half Elven, and all Others of the Free stand with him. :bow: Non-Geek voice - Kevmann actually has done a great job of role-playing Shadow Magic & Human 'badness' - I reckon he'd appreciate a Dwarf-showing - he's doin' a fine job of defiance BTW.:) :cool: |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-22-03, 03:55 AM | re: Accent of Dwarf. I AGREE! Well crafted very! sil: [/I]the Userper Kevmann defies the First of the Human Halls - Grimclaw would summon the Dwawarrodelvers to his Aid in the Human Foundation where Kevmann, an army of Orcs, all the Great Houses of the Half Elven, and all Others of the Free stand with him.[/I] :bow: Non-Geek voice - Kevmann actually has done a great job of role-playing Shadow Magic & Human 'badness' - I reckon he'd appreciate a Dwarf-showing - he's doin' a fine job of defiance BTW.:) :cool: |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-22-03, 06:33 PM | Thankee :D Ah do like mah accent personally. Any'oo, Ah've got me a question. Where can Ah find mountain Dwarves? In tha MM it be referrin' to 'em as tougher'n tha majority o' tha dwarves, but Ah've ne'er found anythin' more'n 'at aboot 'em, an' beelieve me, Ah've looked 'igh 'n low. Where can Ah be findin' more information aboot 'em? |
| Jamma06-22-03, 07:51 PM | hey do you have any ideas for my foundation plz tell me if you do thnx :b: :b: :devil: :b: :devil: |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-22-03, 08:23 PM | Sorry, 'at post were actually me lil' brudder 'oo be an elf-fanatic sayin' 'at minotaurs suck. Needless to say, Ah edited it as soon as Ah saw it. Sorry aboot tha confusion. Personally Ah be fond o' minotaurs meself. |
| Jamma06-22-03, 08:38 PM | thats ok whould you like to join my foundation :) |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-22-03, 08:48 PM | Thankee kindly, but Ah be a dwarf, an' though Ah may 'ave tendencies to o'er races, Ah'll always be a Dwarf. Me loyalties lie in but the one place. Minotaurs'd be the ones iffen Dwarves were extinct *brandishes symbol of Clangeddin*. But as is, Dwarves be me one true love. |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-22-03, 08:56 PM | Fahnally got aroun' ta given me opinion on some o' the questions. 1.Bearded dwarf woman YES or NO ? It differs froom world ta world, ah've always preferred 'em wiffout beards. 2. How bald are Grey Dwarfs Ah always 'magined 'em as 'avin' a ring o' grey 'air around tha upper parts o' 'eir 'eads, an' bald everywhere else. 3. Monikerrpg youre topic is a good one (how to balance a costum penalty for -2 dex? a +4 to con straight up, or a few well placed racial bonuses to things like open lock? ) Well, personally, Ah'd do both, but 'at'd make 'em o'erpowered :mad: So, Ah'd say a bonus ta Open Lock, an' Disable Device seein' as 'ow they've already got a bonus ta Con fer showin' 'ow tough they be. 4. Lets start a new one alright: What do you dwarf lovers :) think about sub races Korobokuru, Wild Dwarfs, Gully Dwarfs ect. Do we have to much? are they better or worse then the elven sub races? Do you really love one or hate one? Ah like subraces, though Ah 'ave no ideer what Jade Dwarves an' Korobokuru be. Could someon' please explain 'em? An' long live our fiery allies tha Azer :bow: Long live tha Dwarven Kind! Fore'er may the stone be sturdy unner our feet. |
| grimclaw06-22-03, 10:41 PM | roleplaying at The One Land(foundation based roleplaying encounters):angel: |
| Ouroboros06-23-03, 03:35 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 Deago_Of_Kord #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe Thanks for keeping us on track you have my blessing Kazoron Mithrilaxe You can find the Korobokuru in the Oriental Adventures source book some say they are more a halfling Dwarf crossbreed but they are just oreintal dwarves And wel the Jade Dwarf is a sub race I have made so i couln't help my self to post it what the heck i will post it again |
| Ouroboros06-23-03, 03:47 AM | Jade Dwarves Jade Dwarves are Dwarves from a Central/South American culture. As there more traditional bredderen they lived underground mining for obsidian and jade. There live was so secret that even the gods didn't knew of there existents. On there rampage to cleans the world they found the race trempeling in fear. By a miracle the gods decided to spear them. The thankful race are now known by there devotion to the gods and act as there messengers. personality: Every Jade Dwarf gains some respect in human communities they are seen as a dedicated, courageous and magical race. They work for the community by managing build of a temple or working in the cord of the king often serving as there meseger or for entertainment. And always willing to step in for a priest. Physical Description: A Jade Dwarf stans between 3 feet to 4 feet just as broad as normal dwarfs and a little lighter. A Jade Dwarf apears as a beard less dwarf with brown/grey skin, black blue eyes and black hair.. They are often scarred surprise lie by their own doing and often crippled or miss grown A Jade dwarf wears his scars with pride as a sign to there devotion to the gods. Jade Dwarf males often wear sandals and pants, And women often wear a manta. A Jade Dwarf is really seen without a obsidian mirror with is said the help enstabbeling contact with the K'uh (gods) but often in doesn't carrie much other juwelie unless the work for the king of the community. Relation: A marriage between two Jade Dwarves is rarely seen by other races because love is a forbidden lore for the jade dwarf. And the other races see them really die. If Jade Dwarves fall in love or there time is near they make a trip to the underworld to spend the rest of there live and dead there. A Jade Dwarf goes along fine with a human even better with the king. And see disfigured humans as people who deserve the same status as them what the often get with a jade dwarf in cord. Jade Dwarfs are on good terms with Aarakocra's and often work as between persons for human en Aarakocra alike. Jade Dwarven Lands: There are smaller kingdoms in the underworld where they have contact with the gods and are the only places where Jade Dwarfs are born and raised. Where some of the children are teached in the human way to strengthen the link between mortals and gods. When they are ready they leave there homes to go to the material plane and search for towns, cities or just a person who needs guides. Religions: Jade Dwarves abandoned there fate for Moradin long ago as Moradin did abandon them. They follow gods of kings, corn and Sun. When a Jade Dwarves leaves his home he chooses a god that he will represent. The link between him/her and the gods is broken with only a obsidian mirror with a connection to the underworld. They often scar themselves to show their devotion to his god, which often leads to, sterile when he returns home. Language: Jade Dwarves speak a dialect of Dwarven with a Hieroglyph script. If a Western Dwarf wants to comunicate with a Jade Dwarf a inteligent check would be approved for both to understand. Jade Dwarfs speak to tong of man. And a few know Aarakocriaan, Giant, Gnome and Terran Names: Jade Dwarves have to earn there names a Jade Dwarves earns there name only when they return home the more deeds done means that the name is longer. At the world of humans Jade dwarves gladly except the short names that are given by them. Male Names: K'awiil, Jol, Took, Ayiin, Chitam, Chaak, Joloom, Naab, Chiik, Kasper, Imix, Yoaat, Ix, Mo Female Names: Balam, Way, K'inich, Nik, Chuwen, Pakal, Xook, Chan, Kinuw, K'uk', Ik'nal, Adventurers: Not al Jade Dwarves are lucky in of to find a civilasasion to settle in. But there is always someone who needs spiritual guide's. Or the dwarf can't stand the way the temple is going and wil leave. Trying to raise the funds to build a new one. Jade Dwarven * +2 Constitution, -2 Dexterity: As there kin they are stout and tough but there often cripple body makes them a little slower. * Medium Size: Not al Jade Dwarves are medium sized a quarter of them are small sized (and work in the cord of human kings * Jade Dwarven base speed is 20 feet. * Darkvision: 30 ft. Stone cunning +2 * +2 racial bonus agaist posion * +3 racial bonus agaist transmutation magic * +1 bonus to Appraise and craft when things are made of stone or metal. * Automatic Languages: Jade Dwarfs and (Cummon). Bonus Languages: Aarakocriaan, Giant, Gnome, Terran * Favored Class: Cleric or Sjamaan Dwarf, Jade 40 +3d6 +5d6 +6d6 Dwarf, Jade 40 100 150 200 7d20 Dwarf male 3'5" +2d8 90 lb. x (2d4) Dwarf, female 3'3" +2d8 80 lb. x (2d4) http://www.angelfire.com/bug/ouroboros/Jade_Dwarves_color.jpg |
| Ouroboros06-24-03, 06:08 AM | Whit some digging we are back on track |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-25-03, 04:54 AM | *approaches Dwarf Doors to Mountain Halls* *Doors are closed, but open to friends* *Speaks 'Mellon'* *Great Doors open, revealing burning sconces on well-lit smooth subterranean tunnels. A stairway leads up and into the great mountain.* *goes inside - seeks Ouroborus* *Sees Great Council of Dwarves and focussed Stone Folk* She says: Excuse the interruption good Dwarves and Allies. :bow: The forges of the Elven Smiths of the Perdhil Halls are cool. I come to ensure your Well-Being ....i.e. let's keep tha thread handy.....ever would we aid the Dwarves. :bow: The magic of the Elf-Verse is ever at thine disposal - to Imbue thine weapons and stone work as thou woudlst see fit....and Great in Generosity are the Dwarves in their Gifts of Mithril. Long may Moradin protect and sustain thee. |
| AegisBane06-25-03, 08:31 AM | My good friends, long has it been since I spoke in these hallowed halls. I come to say one thing and that is I have found my apprecation for elves again. Truly if all elfendom were like those here it owuld be an admirable race. I have a topic for discussion though. I know the long standard for dwarves and water, but I question this. Why have dwarves not begun trading at the ports that run into our mountians? It would seem we make good sea folk, running the coast with dwarven goods. Yea or nea? |
| weaponsmith06-25-03, 09:40 AM | Sorry my Dwarven friend. This dwarf needs good solid rock under his feet. I don’t want to feel grass, sand and especially water under me. It moves to much and I can’t swim in full plate. So I will let the elves and human have their water and I will stay with my mountain. |
| AegisBane06-25-03, 02:17 PM | No need to apologize, I understand why some dwarves would rather stay in the stone halls. Me, well I've developed some new armor, just for my sailing adventures. Its much like full plate but filled with tiny tubes that hold air, and makes the armor not as heavy over all. Crunchy here, treat any armor with the [porous] ablity as not requring a swim check to stay in one place. SSwim checks apply to any movement though. |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-25-03, 04:13 PM | Ah've seen some time at sea, mostly durin' my work as a mercenary guardin' cargoes o' gems n such. It be mighty unnervin' at first fer us Dwarves, but then ye get used ta it. |
| Tenzhi06-25-03, 05:22 PM | Originally posted by AegisBane No need to apologize, I understand why some dwarves would rather stay in the stone halls. Me, well I've developed some new armor, just for my sailing adventures. Its much like full plate but filled with tiny tubes that hold air, and makes the armor not as heavy over all. Crunchy here, treat any armor with the [porous] ablitiy as one size lighter, and subtract 2 AC. Such armour wouldn't be lighter, but it would certainly be bouyant. It's a good idea - full-plate floaties. |
| AegisBane06-25-03, 05:32 PM | Sounds like a plan. Think I sould just reduce the swim penalty? |
| Tenzhi06-25-03, 05:56 PM | I think it should just negate the need for swim checks in order to stay afloat. Swim checks would still be necessary for moving where you want to go rather than just being swept along with the current. And indeed, the bulk of the armour would likely still interfere with the effectiveness of such swim checks. |
| vash the fighter06-25-03, 07:37 PM | a certin deago_of_kord has changed names;) i wonder what it could be;) ;) *clears throght* ok ill give u a hint im # 33;) another:behold: |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-25-03, 08:26 PM | Originally posted by AegisBane My good friends, long has it been since I spoke in these hallowed halls. I come to say one thing and that is I have found my apprecation for elves again. Truly if all elfendom were like those here it owuld be an admirable race. I have a topic for discussion though. I know the long standard for dwarves and water, but I question this. Why have dwarves not begun trading at the ports that run into our mountians? It would seem we make good sea folk, running the coast with dwarven goods. Yea or nea? :bow: |
| weaponsmith06-27-03, 07:03 AM | I have a question. I know dwarf hate goblins and giants, but do they hate orc too. I can’t find anything on this topic. My group said Dwarf hate them and would just attack them like goblins. I think the only reason a dwarf would hate an orc is that it evil and that if the dwarf is good. I would think human and elves would hate orc the most, b/c of the raid on their cities. (My group and I play in the silver marches.) So I just want so input from my dwarven brothers. |
| Ukkodin06-27-03, 01:51 PM | I've always thought, as a general rule, dwarves and orcs have a distaste for the other's company, especially given the marauding nature of orcish "society"; don't forget, more than one dwarven stronghold has been sorely pressed by orcish raids. However, I feel that unless a dwarf has grown up with constant raids from orcs, he/she will not *automatically* attack an orc. Be suspicious of, perhaps, but not attack. (Of course, this does not include those orcs and half-orcs who were raised by dwarves and would hold their same attitudes). |
| weaponsmith06-27-03, 01:59 PM | Thanks. That was my thoughts on it too. It was just my group said I (playing a Dwarf) would hate having a half-orc in are party. I could see their reasons why. Yes some orc have attack us but the rest of the party was there too. So i tried to tell them if the dwarf doesn't like them then why not my whole party. Backgroud info: My dwarf grow up in Mithril Hall. I don't know of any orc raiding that place. But i know i hate drow & deep dragons. |
| Ouroboros06-28-03, 11:01 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe vash the fighter i liked your old name better :behold: Dwarves can swim in my campain they have a bathing house (mostly used by travelers) ;) |
| Ouroboros06-28-03, 11:16 AM | A dwarf hates orc for a few reasons the god gruumsh that is the enemy of moradin orcs get the order to kill every elf and dwarf. But Half-Orcs are unwortly in Gruumsh eyes and so half-orcs have there own desteni to follow. thats why we don't hate half-orcs. |
| kgmiller06-28-03, 04:00 PM | Hello, can I join the Dwarven Foundation? |
| vash the fighter06-28-03, 04:08 PM | :P this is my dwarf name :behold: |
| weaponsmith07-01-03, 07:39 AM | You right. I found out the orc can't be trusted last weekend. May they all run in fear of my war axe. What are some of the dwarven dieties do like besides Moradin? well got to back to the mines. |
| Two-Faced Halfling07-01-03, 07:54 AM | May I join the Dwarven Foundation? Oh, and can anyone give me the stats and traits for the Wild Dwarf? Thanks |
| Ouroboros07-01-03, 03:04 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling We welcome 2 new dwarves in our fold a wel i think kgmiller is only a good friend :) Posting stats of a wild dwarf could get me in trouble... so i only give some info. small size and have natrule armor of mud +1? i don't have the book with me but then again ;) |
| Ouroboros07-01-03, 03:22 PM | So Two-Faced Halfling you are a wild dwarf then pleased to meet ya i am a korobokuru :king: |
| Two-Faced Halfling07-01-03, 06:05 PM | Thanks for the happy welcomes! I'm going to play a Wild Dwarf for the next Campaign I'm in and I don't have any books with their stats. So, I was wondering if anyone could give me them, but if you'll get in trouble nevermind. |
| Mage of Sembia07-01-03, 06:32 PM | They are in Monsters of Faerun, Forgotten Realms Handbook, and I think Races of Faerun |
| weaponsmith07-02-03, 10:24 AM | Well, I’m so glad we are all so grown up on this board. Its fine to dislike something but to say it “suck” and give no examples is so childish. Man I hope when I was 3 year old. I didn’t act that way. |
| weaponsmith07-02-03, 10:40 AM | I need some help with my background for my dwarf fighter(LN). This is what I got so far. Born and raised in Mithral Hall. Member of the stone forge clan. Son of the 2nd bother of the head of our clan. Our clan is renowned weapon and armor smith in Mithral Hall. We pride ourselves in make new and stronger weapons. I left my home in search of new markets to sell weapons and always looking for new techniques to forge. I also left b/c there is a strong feeling to repay the silver marches for their help in our time in need. So I left to help Nesme’. Even thou time has past since the silver marches helped us; it’s the way my clan to never leave a dept unpaid. My clan also thought me to drive a hard bargain, your work is everything; never trust someone that hasn’t earned it. My dieties are Vergadain “that’s why I drive hard bargains” and Clangaddin Silverbeard “I hate giants” |
| Ukkodin07-02-03, 05:18 PM | I don't know if this will help, but I came across a passage that reflects how I try to roleplay my own dwarf's personality. It is from the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, a Roman Emperor from the 2nd century CE/AD (I actually posted this quote in this thread on the old boards): "Never value the advantages derived from anything involving breach of faith, loss of self-respect, hatred, suspicion, or execration of others, insincerity, or the desire for something which has to be veiled and curtained." Hope this helps. However, do not let your dwarf become so set in his ways that he becomes intractable and disliked. After all, per Marcus Aurelius again: "To change your mind and defer to correction is not to sacrifice your independence; for such an act is your own, in pursuance of your own impulse, your own judgement, and your own thinking." |
| weaponsmith07-03-03, 11:55 AM | I going to play my dwarf that he not closed minded but always open to new ideas. Here an example: We were just freed from an orc horde (the leader is CN and he doesn’t want to start trouble with the town near by.) My dwarf having a weapon and armor shop decided to start trading supplies with him. (My guy is going to try to keep it a secret b/c he doesn’t want his other brethren to find out. They might not be so open minded.) I have played the hard head dwarf many times but it seems to get boring to fast b/c you know what your going to do every time some thing happen or some one says something. PS. We started the campaign before I had my background finished |
| Ouroboros07-03-03, 01:29 PM | Originally posted by weaponsmith You right. I found out the orc can't be trusted last weekend. May they all run in fear of my war axe. What are some of the dwarven dieties do like besides Moradin? well got to back to the mines. As you have said Clangeddin battles gaints And Dumathoin hates undead (dwarf undead how growsh) Berronar Truesilver the wife of Moradin rivals him in her hate for the orcs and goblins. Laduguer the greydwarf god battles the followers of Loth and Moradin The other gods go there own way. At Greyhawk Ulluki (sorry don't have that book at hand) hates Derro. |
| Gaven07-03-03, 10:36 PM | Hi i am Gaven the Mountain Dwarf i am an astounded figther, and an apprentice Armor & Weapon forger. I have been Dming 2 years and playing 4 eva, but i tend 2 use Dwarves and have been playing Gaven for quite a while, we have been quite attached. But i wanna join the Dwarven foundation |
| Obryn Darkfell07-04-03, 01:36 AM | If ever there was a cause to join, truly it is the Dwarven Foundation...sign me up!!! Axe High!!! |
| Spawn Of Bahamut07-04-03, 05:05 AM | I am appologising for the previous comments. two of my friends got on to my file and posted the insulting messages. I have changed the Password so it will not happen again. |
| Ouroboros07-04-03, 01:11 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell Welcome to the foundation and yet again whe are blessed 2 more. |
| Ouroboros07-06-03, 11:34 AM | Tossed back on the board! Well we have to talk about something so... When you played a dwarf what race was the one that you respected the most? who was your friend? Me? none the playergroup was so annoying all elfs who diged a house out of a tree to sleep in for 1 day. call that elfish? So i dmed again and found a other gaming group. |
| weaponsmith07-07-03, 06:33 AM | When i play i usually stick beside the gnome if there is no other dwarves around. They have the same mind set to working as we do. That my 2 cents |
| Ukkodin07-08-03, 03:00 PM | I usually stick beside the human ranger, given that we trust the other's survival training (me for the caverns, him for the woods). On a related note: I noted in the "Foundation for those with Nowhere else to go" thread, somebody came up with the idea of an Illithid Bard. Talk about characters my dwarf would stay far away from! Sheesh! |
| Obryn Darkfell07-08-03, 07:21 PM | Always hang with the half-ogre... ...and avoid the wild mage. 'Nuff said... |
| Ouroboros07-10-03, 02:22 PM | Still on second page have to do somthing about it :king: so thanks for the reply folks ;) My dwarf would had evaded al chaotic people :rolleyes: to bad it was a almost all elf party and back to the woman beard subject one of my player has a bearded female dwarf barbarian :D |
| Twilly07-12-03, 11:53 AM | Do any of you Dwarf-lovers have cool/nice/interesting typical dwarven customs/rituals/sayings or something like it? Any rituals concering : the birth of child wedding death drinking beer fighting |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-12-03, 12:34 PM | Do any of you Dwarf-lovers have cool/nice/interesting typical Dwarven customs/rituals/sayings or something like it? A Greeting to thee from the Half-Elven Peredhil (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=630369#post630369)of the OneLand (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53373) - at The Planes Folk of Earth and Stone!! Of the Earth's Foundations!! While One Stone is In the World, there you shall find the Folk of Khazad near! Moradin's Kindred and of Stone you are! and a battle cry DARK LORD (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53373) - WARD - MY LORD OUROBORUS AND ALL THE STONE FOLK WILL NOT SUFFER THE CORRUPTION OF YOUR HANDS UPON THE FAIR STONEWORK OF OUR DWARVEN HALLS. THE DWARVES OF THE ONELAND WILL NOT SUFFER THIS ILL!! We are battling at the black gates - what would a battle be without Dwarves....all be welcome. It's many of the folk gathering there and who would have seen around at Races Boards. Ouroborus :bow: for 'tis true as you say Berronar Truesilver the wife of Moradin rivals him in her hate for the orcs and goblins. Silmarien |
| Ukkodin07-14-03, 12:44 PM | The campaign I usually run in hasn't gone into the details of dwarven society too much (yet), but some thoughts per your question, Twilly: Drinking Beer: There is hardly a festivity that goes by where a copious amount of assorted ales isn't drunk (I would imagine, at an extended party, a single dwarf could consume a whole cask and not think twice). Weddings: They probably would resemble some of the old Celtic and Welsh customs involving hand-fasting, large groups, and huge feasts. For additional flavor, I could see Germanic, Scandinavian, Oriental and/or some other misc. cultures being mixed in to create something unique. Anyone deal with this yet? Fighting: That would depend on the Dwarven clan you encounter; each clan would have its own unique customs, training and culture. (A clan that fights dragons would have a different setup from a clan that has to deal with orcs on a daily basis.) Death: It would depend on how the individual died. Childbirth: That's a private matter, and wouldn't be discussed in mixed company. The midwives and priests would know the answer to that, if they chose to speak up. |
| texaskron07-14-03, 01:22 PM | What about Athasian dwarves? Or are they too old-school? :) |
| Ouroboros07-14-03, 01:29 PM | Childbirth: We always play that it should and with a feast if it is a girl. girls are rare in my campain world |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-15-03, 12:45 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Childbirth: We always play that it should and with a feast if it is a girl. girls are rare in my campain world I agree - because I like this idea from LOTR Dwarves. Apparently, in this casting of Dwarven Lore, the ratio of male to female Dwarves was 3 to 1. So, this builds in to the race, population issues - i.e. they would expand in numbers slowly? I'm also one of very few who like 'bearded female' construct of Dwarves... :) The idea that they are mysterious, and elusive - this begs some important questions about their role in Dwarven Life. I might suggest that such female Dwarves could afford to be very 'choosy' about their partners - and would have much social power in Dwarven Cultures - by way of their being 'sought after' by male Dwarves....does anyone have another take on these things? Cheers Silmarien (Proudly in Dwarf Mode for Dwarf Thread) :bow: ...may thine beards grow ever long! |
| El Chipperagwa Jimmy07-16-03, 12:44 AM | Haha, I would like to join this fine foundation, El Chipperagwa Jimmy, the Bravest Dwarf of them all (except for those that are braver, which are quite a few)! Lver of Elves and all things good and pure, hater of all things that make him go smish! Yes, I would have to agree, with those odds the males would be in quite a pickle. |
| Ouroboros07-17-03, 01:50 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy Welcome to the dwarvenhalls El Chipperagwa Jimmy you are free to go where you want. but don't go to deep or the duegar gana get ya. :D |
| Ouroboros07-18-03, 02:16 PM | As for the marrige of dwarves why should there be a feast first the pare has to back up there words:smirk: |
| weaponsmith07-18-03, 02:21 PM | I also don't see dwarves getting married for love but more on the lines for the clan. I mean two smaller clans growing together to make one large one or to keep the clan strong with new blood. |
| Teark strombringer07-18-03, 09:56 PM | I want to join this league of dwarves. I am Teark a cleric of moradin. |
| Ouroboros07-19-03, 02:06 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer Welcome brother Teark to the halls of the dwarven foundation show some respect to him man! May your holy symbol effer be clean brother |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-20-03, 10:50 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros As for the marrige of dwarves why should there be a feast first the pare has to back up there words:smirk: The Feast to Celebrate - where the Dwarven pair already know each other's hearts beforehand - and the ale food and Dwarven raucous as much for the guests as for the union - make sure the floors are strong! Some/most Dwarves marry by clan - I'm sure - but I'm not sure how much they're into King and King's Kin pairings. Female Dwarven Rulers - I'd say yes to that too.. cheers sil |
| Ouroboros07-20-03, 01:44 PM | Well i have a anouchment to make ahum ahum. Good people of the earth fellow hill dwarfs, shield dwarfs, gold, mount, deep, grey, gully, wild ect. I know some of you should already have MM 3.5 and there is some bad news in it. The Derro is no longer seen as a dwarven race (a yes they still said there ancestors are human (suel) and dwarven) but they are sown as a other race no dwarf sub-group no darkvision nothing. newbies to the game would think they are deamons. we have to make a stand! So we only have 1 evil race over and personly drow and duagar are mutch alike in looks (black-grey skin white hair) What next drow are no elfs :twitch: fellow dwarfs wat do you think:confused: |
| El Chipperagwa Jimmy07-20-03, 08:14 PM | I think this horrible, we must stop newbies from thinking such things!!! |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-20-03, 08:28 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Well i have a anouchment to make ahum ahum. Good people of the earth fellow hill dwarfs, shield dwarfs, gold, mount, deep, grey, gully, wild ect. I know some of you should already have MM 3.5 and there is some bad news in it. The Derro is no longer seen as a dwarven race (a yes they still said there ancestors are human (suel) and dwarven) but they are sown as a other race no dwarf sub-group no darkvision nothing. newbies to the game would think they are deamons. we have to make a stand! So we only have 1 evil race over and personly drow and duagar are mutch alike in looks (black-grey skin white hair) What next drow are no elfs :twitch: fellow dwarfs wat do you think:confused: I agree with you Ouro - I don't like this - I don't know about you, but I frequenty alter rules to match Campaign Mythology. The CORE rules in fact have provision for mods to rules. So, I vote keep Derro with Darkvision and Dwarven Blood. If you are interested, we have the "Blood Mix Rules" which are tables we developed at the Half Elven Foundation. I could change headings to read "Proportion of Dwarven Blood" and post them here. In a nutshell, these tables are a guide for the number of "Pure Traits" in offspring of Half-Casts. These rules would allow Darkvision in some second gen Dwarves and not in others. The tables let you Tailor a character... Cheers Sil |
| Orcy The Green Wonder07-20-03, 10:02 PM | I have come for suggestions on dwarven insults to throw at our psion. Hes a dwarf with a Con score of 12. Yes, 12. My half-hobgoblin/half-orc laughs at his con score. Watch, I'll do it right now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. But really, has anybody played a dwarf with such a horrible con? Oh, and hes an egoist, so he is supposed to be a strong guy, meaning he thinks he should run up to things and attack... yeah.... uhm... I thought I'd tell you this so you may all laugh at his non-dwarfyness. (only reason he picked dwarf is because we wouldnt let him be an elf or half-dragon anything in my opinion) |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-20-03, 10:34 PM | Originally posted by Orcy The Green Wonder I have come for suggestions on dwarven insults to throw at our psion. Hes a dwarf with a Con score of 12. Yes, 12. My half-hobgoblin/half-orc laughs at his con score. Watch, I'll do it right now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. But really, has anybody played a dwarf with such a horrible con? Oh, and hes an egoist, so he is supposed to be a strong guy, meaning he thinks he should run up to things and attack... yeah.... uhm... I thought I'd tell you this so you may all laugh at his non-dwarfyness. (only reason he picked dwarf is because we wouldnt let him be an elf or half-dragon anything in my opinion) :rofl: No - never played any char with Con under 12 - let alone a Dwarf.....he'll learn quickly to put more con... ;) Remember! "there's a Dwarf buried inside the Elfy-est of characters - waiting to come out..." cheers Orcy |
| weaponsmith07-21-03, 06:59 AM | Hello My Brothers, I just got the 3.5 book and i must say we have gotten stronger. I love it. Now i can have full-plate, Tower sheild and never worry about being weighted down and have a 22 ac. Only problem is the rest of the party will be begging us to carry there stuff. (we are not pack mules.) What do u guys think about the changes? |
| Ouroboros07-21-03, 01:29 PM | I am not complaining about the new rule for the core dwarf we can carry does halflings just like in tolkiens book the hobbit :D But weaponsmith wat do you think about the chance of the derro!:( |
| weaponsmith07-21-03, 01:57 PM | I didn't see that yet. What has change for them. |
| Ouroboros07-22-03, 02:43 PM | as you have read in the foundation there sub class dwarf is no more :( they start with 3 hd:mad: how dangerour are derro childeren?:confused: they have made them insane (hello evil creature know what they are doing) Screw up at anyday in anyway!!!! :b: Wel i got the slayer guide of derro and there is the info correct:smirk: |
| Ouroboros07-22-03, 02:46 PM | [i](we are not pack mules.) [/B] Other race may thing other wise insome games half-dwarfs are called Muls :behold: Well not on my watch :bigeyes: |
| Tenzhi07-22-03, 02:54 PM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Remember! "there's a Dwarf buried inside the Elfy-est of characters - waiting to come out..." Blasphemy! The only Dwarf buried in an elf must have been placed there through the aid of brute force and a pointy helmet. |
| Ouroboros07-22-03, 03:12 PM | .... |
| weaponsmith07-22-03, 04:02 PM | So, derro is not a dwarven subrace anymore. How are they going to explain this? What ever. Well I can see that in 4.0 the Shield dwarves and Gold dwarves are not actually related at all. They will say the shield dwarf popped out of a metal shield and the gold dwarf hatched from a hunk of gold. So there no blood line that connects them. By the way, the first pc that calls my dwarf a “mul” will be trying to reattach his legs. |
| Ouroboros07-23-03, 01:39 PM | The Derro was the first dwarven subrace that catch my eye it really hurts you know:( No must be strong i don't want elfs and dwarf sear the same evil subrace only (dark skinned elfs and dwarfs it isn't inof to spark my intressted) everybody is welcome to disacree with me on this level |
| El Chipperagwa Jimmy07-24-03, 08:44 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros The Derro was the first dwarven subrace that catch my eye it really hurts you know:( No must be strong i don't want elfs and dwarf sear the same evil subrace only (dark skinned elfs and dwarfs it isn't inof to spark my intressted) everybody is welcome to disacree with me on this level I do disagree, but I have always liked Azers better than Derro for some reason... not sure why... |
| Ojuice500107-24-03, 09:44 AM | Seems like a cool idea. The main reason I like dwarves is because of their beards.:D Their bonuses on saving throws are a big plus too. And you can't go wrong with a Constitution bonus. I like halflings better than dwarves, though, so if I join this foundation I'll have to join the Halfing Foundation. |
| Ouroboros07-25-03, 02:33 PM | So join the halfling foundation in name of the deep halflings. I joined the dwarven foundation in the name of the korobukuru :cool: So El Chipperagwa Jimmy you come from mexico did i do good with the jade dwarf (stats found in the foundation) :D |
| Argsnoth Forgesmith07-27-03, 01:40 AM | Argsnoth Forgesmith reporting in. I would like to join the Dwarf Foundation. I play a level 31 Dwarf. With the following classes: -Cleric 12 -Paladin 18 -Divine Emissary 1 |
| Ouroboros07-29-03, 02:03 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith Abbathor got i my way but nothing will stop me from expanding the foundation. Welcome Argsnoth Forgesmith and resist the greed of Abbathor. |
| Argsnoth Forgesmith07-29-03, 04:58 PM | I would like to express my appreciation for you, Ouroboros, letting me into the foundation. So, Thank you. |
| Ouroboros07-31-03, 01:37 PM | No need to thank me I would be insane not to let a cleric of moradin in ;) |
| Ukkodin07-31-03, 03:21 PM | Ouroboros: That's a good thing; we need as many clerics as possible. After all, who would conduct what few marriages we dwarves celebrate if there are no clerics around? (Although, I still prefer the non-bearded ladies myself - ;) ). So, anyone come across a good Mushroom dish lately? Other food related thoughts: Fungi (other than mushrooms) are good for caving rations or the occasional flavoring. Watch out for those strange mushrooms; they can make you see weird things. (I'm sure they were put there by the Illithid.) Lizards and goats are great meat animals. (Cattle are too big to house large herds easily within/near the strongholds.) Goats are also good for their milk products such as cheese. Barley, malt and peat all make good bases for decent alcohols, and are easily cultivated at altitude. Grapes (and, as a result, wine) would be less prevalent for crops (unless you're a surface dwarf), but I'm sure we dwarves are experts at make Ice Wines (Yum!) |
| McFade07-31-03, 04:07 PM | Finally a foundation worth joining... |
| weaponsmith08-01-03, 07:22 AM | I thought I drop by and say greeting to all are new brothers. Clangaddin Silverbeard power is growing with every giant I send to him. May your axe never go thirsty of giant’s blood. Someday, I Doloft will rid this world of them filthy beast and Silverbeard name will be flying high on all our banners... Well, back to the hunt. |
| Ouroboros08-01-03, 02:10 PM | Originally posted by McFade Finally a foundation worth joining... So are you joining Aye or Nee:embarrass (it is aye isn't it?) |
| Ukkodin08-04-03, 03:36 PM | After a little digging, as per our nature, I have unearthed our Foundation. So, McFade, have you decided to join? Or do you wish to remain a neutral third party, with friendly leanings? So, what are some of the games that dwarves like to play? Would orc-hurling be considered a sport or a game? |
| weaponsmith08-04-03, 03:43 PM | Troll Basketball. Rules: 1) Place a basket in near by tree. (get the elf to climb up there and place it) 2) Find a troll 3) Cut off his head without killing him and the game is on. Note: Keep an eye on the troll (body) the head will grow back soon. So just repeat step 3 if this happens. If you what more then a one on one game just find some friends and more Trolls. Sorry got to go. Game just started. |
| Ouroboros08-05-03, 02:45 PM | a Derro game wat do you need 4 piercers a bunny (or for more fun a human) in a large box start betting on a piercer and look if it kills his prey first |
| SwordMaster08-05-03, 05:01 PM | Greetings, my fellow Dwarves! My, how this foundation has grown. I wonder when Fancypants will get back. :( Arrrgh. Can't trust humans, can ye? BTW, it's aye and nay (rhymes with pie and way). I don't quite understand your game, Ouroboros. Oh, and another thing: Originally posted by Ouroboros And Dumathoin hates undead (dwarf undead how growsh)One of my friends (elf killer 32) describe a few main aspects of the derro (this happened before 3.5) and then said: who would have less to lose to become a vampire? Hurt by light, etc. He said some might even be led by a derro vampire. Troll basketball . . . :rofl: |
| Ouroboros08-07-03, 02:15 PM | The Piercers are monsters from 2de ed. (a other game more to discworld gullydwarf style) rat biting but rats in a emmer fill it with water and dwarfs must get a rat without using its hands:( jugh |
| SmilingTyrant08-09-03, 04:04 AM | Hail Dwarf-lovers, I was wondering if you would allow me to join your auspicious organization. Here are my qualifications: 1. Majority of characters played were Dwarves 2. NEVER played an elf 3. Able to drink a copious amount of ale 4. Decent Sean Connery impression 5. Short 6. Can read/write Runic 7. Enjoy hammers of various sorts 8. Moderately gritty 9. Swift-growing facial hair 10. Widely known to like shiny things So whaddya think, am I in? |
| Ouroboros08-09-03, 12:34 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant It was hart SmilingTyrant there was one thing that was in youre way to join i can't find i like dwarfs in your post ;) Welcome SmilingTyrant |
| Ouroboros08-12-03, 01:33 PM | We all know that Derro dispose of the bodies of enemies by eating it. But what do other dwarf subraces whit the bodies? Orcs and gobbo's are thrown out and left to rot but what about others? |
| weaponsmith08-13-03, 07:42 AM | This is what my Dwarf does. It depends on my enemy. Orc/gobbo leave where they lay. Humanoid that fought with honor I most likely will put in the ground. So, what is your favorite weapons/armor for your Dwarf? Mine, Dwarven waraxe, full plate, tower shield. I’ll take the -2 to attack for that +4 AC. |
| Ouroboros08-13-03, 02:47 PM | You can't go wrong with an axe. and full plate. ;) But for the Dwarf Bard i am running i would go for a spear. |
| Ukkodin08-13-03, 06:49 PM | Favorite Armour: Plate Mail Favorite Weapon: Double-Bladed Battle Axe/War Axe (It's that backswing) Additional Dwarven Games/Sports (Not for Real Life): Axe Catching (just make sure you catch it with the right body part) Roc(k) Carrying (If you choose to carry a Roc, the eggs are the best way. After all, if you drop a Roc egg, you can always make an omelette :D ) Stalagmite Hopping (There have to be caverns around where you can hop from one to another, right?) Wagon pulling (using your teeth is optional) Log rolling Wood chopping Fastest Tunnel Creation |
| SwordMaster08-14-03, 06:27 PM | My primary character does not wear armor because he is a wizard. He happens to also have some Ftr levels. I usually don't play dwarven "tanks" except for the time I played Tordek straight from Enemies and Allies. Rock on, dwarves. Which reminds me of a thought I had: wouldn't a dwarf in a (punk) rock band be an awesome drummer? :cool: |
| JackRipper08-14-03, 09:07 PM | Let me introduce meself: Me be Garth the dwarven fighter, and this here is me best friend Bloodaxe, learned that he was the only thing an exile dwarve like me can really trust. Just one thing: I just hate to be an exile any longer. Please except me back into the mighty underground cities of the dwarven folk. Ahem... did I just hear meself beggin'? :embarrass So can I join this wonderfull foundation and feel the strength of Moradin run through me veins again, so that I can lend to you me and me best friend's services? Oh, and one thing, the name isn't JackRipper, that's just the name of someone constantly telling me what to do from somewere within me head. The name's Garth, so that's settled. |
| Orcy The Green Wonder08-15-03, 11:35 AM | Originally posted by SwordMaster Rock on, dwarves. Which reminds me of a thought I had: wouldn't a dwarf in a (punk) rock band be an awesome drummer? :cool: Why? He wouldnt be able to see over the drums. That and he would probably hit his beard a lot. If he could get to the drums that is. :D |
| Anaxar08-16-03, 09:16 AM | As an elf, I must say I pity you, primitive and simple dwarfs, who can't see the beauty of art and nature, except maybe that of jewelry. Who don't have any creativity at all and don't listen to the heavenly elvish music. Who in fact, don't listen to music at all... Also I don't expect you, simple dwarfs, to appreciate the beauties and miracles nature has given us... A pity you, simple primitive dwarfs. |
| FetalPenguin08-16-03, 01:13 PM | Originally posted by Anaxar As an elf, I must say I pity you, primitive and simple dwarfs, who can't see the beauty of art and nature, except maybe that of jewelry. Who don't have any creativity at all and don't listen to the heavenly elvish music. Who in fact, don't listen to music at all... Also I don't expect you, simple dwarfs, to appreciate the beauties and miracles nature has given us... A pity you, simple primitive dwarfs. You my short minded friend are the simple one, dwarfs do see beauty in art and nature, A cave sparkling with a thousands of gems is nature, Making weapons and armor is their art, and for music, nothing is better then dwarven drinking songs. Plus in saying this i have not insulted you elves in anyway, although it would be so, so easy to point out little things like your weak frail body, low drinking tolerence, etc...etc. |
| Anaxar08-16-03, 02:01 PM | quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You my short minded friend are the simple one, dwarfs do see beauty in art and nature, A cave sparkling with a thousands of gems is nature, Making weapons and armor is their art, and for music, nothing is better then dwarven drinking songs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First, let me make one thing clear. I'm not going to argue with you for I, as an elf, am above it. Second, with 'nature' I actually ment 'life'. Dwarfs may love cold caves and gems, but they don't respect life the way elfs do. The birds, the beasts, the forests. And that dwarfs do in fact see beauty in nature and art, doesn't mean they aren't primitive. Just the words 'weapons are their art' prove I'm right. These very words show that the art of the dwarfs is war and weapons. And the fact that war is their art, means they are primitive. 200.000 years ago, people already made decorated weapons, but not poetry for example. And you simply cannot compare 'dwarven drinking songs' with the beautiful elvish music... |
| JackRipper08-16-03, 02:15 PM | I just couldn't bare the words of this dwarve hating elf anymore, so I just wanted to say this to ye, me elven 'friend': The fact that dwarves spend centuries carving out there mighty underground kingdoms means they do have great architecture: THAT is art to. And I do not wish to insult the elves in general, because If they decide to build their city's in the trees, so be it. That's their art. That's garth's word, and I know I'm not yet a member of this great foundation, but I just had to say something. |
| Anaxar08-16-03, 02:24 PM | quote: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The fact that dwarves spend centuries carving out there mighty underground kingdoms means they do have great architecture: THAT is art to. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I never said that dwarfs do not have any art. I only said they are primitive. Dwarf-society is based on war and fighting. They even consider war and weapons as art. And their favorite class is the fighter. I think that this alone makes them primitive. Elfs on the other hand abominate war and they will not easily go to war unless their homes are threatened. |
| Ouroboros08-16-03, 02:26 PM | We are not primitive mister elf or is it miss? it is hart to tell with the skinny body;) We have just like you the disire to live but are homes are underground you have the humans to help you to keep the lands above ground save. But isn't it not that youre homes are save? don't we protect the world above from drow, mindflayers, goblins, dugear, derro ect. We need the weapons to protect are home, our race and others. |
| Anaxar08-16-03, 02:30 PM | Yes, you're right. You do need weapons. So do we. But the difference is that we do not like to kill other beings. And we do not make it an art. The fact that you do makes you primitive in my eyes. |
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| Ouroboros08-16-03, 02:37 PM | Originally posted by Anaxar Yes, you're right. You do need weapons. So do we. But the difference is that we do not like to kill other beings. And we do not make it an art. The fact that you do makes you primitive in my eyes. So you are saying we dwarfs are murderers? Watchs it |
| JackRipper08-16-03, 02:47 PM | Aye, it has been long since I have felt at home b'tween me fellow bwarven brethren! I can nay thank ye enough for lettin' me join yer wonderful foundation. Now I don't think I'm ready just yet to tell me blasted deeds to ye or any cleric, such is my grieve and shame for me deeds. Moradin, forgive me!! Now that that's out of the way ;), I just want to say the elf bothering me fellow dwarves should be ashamed of himself, fer I know that elves are reasonable beings, that would not stand behind the nonsense that this elf is tellin' us. Although I do think elves should drink a bit more of our dwarven ale, It'd help them grow a bit more muscle and backbone. Praise to all dwarves! Praise Moradin! |
| Anaxar08-16-03, 02:53 PM | So you are saying we dwarfs are murderers? Watchs it This sort of conclusions only emphasize the simplicity of the dwarfs. I didn't say dwarfs are murderers but they have no trouble with destroying life. Elfs however have such a great respect for life that they often hesitate to destroy it, even if the enemy is evil, they will more often search for a peaceful solution. |
| SwordMaster08-16-03, 04:27 PM | I, the dwarven elf-lover, am appalled at your immature racism! BTW, I am a wizard with Knowledge (architecture & engineering). Orcy, how dare you! :P I was thinking that both dwarves and half-orcs would make excellent drummers (no, really, I was). Speaking of which, perhaps you do not think much of our drinking songs, Anaxar, but what about this? No, comparing dwarven punk rock and elven music is like comparing apples and oranges...or maybe gold and oobleck... |
| JackRipper08-16-03, 08:16 PM | So yer sayin' that we dwarves are a primitive buch a' fellows, right? Now let me tell ye what 'primitive' really is: Primitive is ye and yer racism against dwarves, sayin' that elves are far more sophisticated and the like: Let us do what we like to do, and well, then ye can be runnin' back into the bushes that ye came from! (speakin' about primitive:rolleyes: ) |
| FetalPenguin08-16-03, 10:36 PM | Originally posted by JackRipper Primitive is ye and yer racism against dwarves, sayin' that elves are far more sophisticated and the like: Let us do what we like to do, and well, then ye can be runnin' back into the bushes that ye came from! My thoughts exactly. Dwarfs and elves are two different races. You cannot simply say that one is primitive just by comparing it with the views of the other. We have just advanced in different areas then the other. Personally when i think of primitive, I'm thinking about wild men running around in loin cloths with a club killing their own kin. But thats just me. |
| Ouroboros08-18-03, 03:03 PM | I am sure Moradin wil be pleased with the strong dwarfs that protect the foundation. Loyaly that is what being dwarf stands for.:king: |
| SwordMaster08-19-03, 12:06 PM | *gathers up all his little dwarf and gnome friends* *all start slamming on their instruments* *makes a song out of the previous post* :bow: Long live the Dwarf Foundation! :bow: |
| Ouroboros08-21-03, 02:08 PM | Originally posted by SwordMaster My primary character does not wear armor because he is a wizard. He happens to also have some Ftr levels. I usually don't play dwarven "tanks" except for the time I played Tordek straight from Enemies and Allies. Rock on, dwarves. Which reminds me of a thought I had: wouldn't a dwarf in a (punk) rock band be an awesome drummer? :cool: I see dwarfs more like using blow instruments. I think the gnome would love to be behind the drums (so mutch drums so little time) |
| Ukkodin08-21-03, 08:07 PM | Actually, I've always thought dwarves would play both wind instruments and drums. But as far as the favored type of drums, I feel that dwarves would prefer the great, deep, booming sounds of the kettle drums (the better to resound off the cavern walls, my dear :D ) The nice thing about dwarves and kettle drums? They can stand on a boulder and use their warhammers. |
| SwordMaster08-23-03, 03:32 PM | My dwarven character likes woodwind and percussion. "Ye daen't need a bonny orchestra tae please me!" |
| JackRipper08-23-03, 07:00 PM | Indeed, Orouboros, dwarves should play the blow instruments. Nothin' better then a dwarve playin' the tuba! But when your askin' me for me real opinion what the dwarve's role should be in the band, it's bein' the singer. I mean, the heavy, strong and deep voice of a dwarve is just the best voice of 'm all! Long live dwarven songs! Long live dwarven ale! |
| HammerFist08-24-03, 03:20 PM | Jack Ripper, "Dwarves" singular is "Dwarf," not "Dwarve" Can I join the foundation? I love Dwarven Monks. |
| Freaking_Pirate08-24-03, 03:28 PM | I want to join the foundation! Dwarves rules, they got the best flavor of all the race. |
| JackRipper08-25-03, 12:51 PM | Originally posted by HammerFist Jack Ripper, "Dwarves" singular is "Dwarf," not "Dwarve" Forgive me me manners if I did spell our beautiful race's name wrongly, but I must admit I really love Tolkiens version of the spelling of the singular of ''dwarf'', wich is ''dwarve''. Long live our race's name! Long live our race's creator! |
| Ouroboros08-25-03, 01:55 PM | Dwarf, Dwarve, Dwarfs, Dwarven, Dwarves. Dwa :) he don't mind the spelling... Wel i never heard of dwarve. To the joining stuff |
| Ouroboros08-25-03, 02:06 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate Welcome little shierker you traing is just begining (Well i could say grasshopper but that isn't somthing fitting in a dwarven monarstary HammerFist) ;) And you to welcome Freaking_Pirate You have both Moradins blessing o wait thats the clerics job :embarrass Returns to his throne :king: |
| SwordMaster08-25-03, 03:38 PM | Originally posted by HammerFist Jack Ripper, "Dwarves" singular is "Dwarf," not "Dwarve" Can I join the foundation? I love Dwarven Monks. Hmm . . . a dwarven monk . . . interesting. Because of their stature, dwarves wouldn't make good monks IRL. But you probably knew that if the link in your sig indicates that you take karate (I do). About the dwarve thing: if you're as bad a speller as Hobbit_Slasher, you calls them draves. :confused: Personally, I always preferred dwarven and elven to dwarvish, elvish, or even worse: elfin. :rolleyes: Welcome, all new members! *gives all new members a dwarf-style bear hug* :D |
| Ukkodin08-26-03, 01:34 PM | To keep our brethren from falling asleep from too much discussion of proper grammar, I will simply bring forth that we should keep our ale consumptionn down when discussing such esoteric matters. Yes, I, too, prefer "dwarven" and "elven" to "dwarvish" and "elvish" or (Moradin forbid) "dwarfin" and "elfin" (sounds fishy to me). Are the rulers of dwarves chosen by combat, heredity, or a combination? IE: Generally, it's passed from parent to child, but if the line dies out, a new successor is picked in some form of combat (first blood?). Or is it by election of the nobles/guild masters? |
| Freaking_Pirate08-26-03, 01:41 PM | Proud Member of the dwarven foundation! Ach, Let's teach to those elf what means to be a male. |
| SwordMaster08-26-03, 04:01 PM | I've never heard "dwarfin"--though I've heard "dwarfish"--but elfin is not only in the Keebler slogan (they're mascot is a tiny, cartoonish elf), but it is in the dictionary! :rolleyes: |
| HammerFist08-26-03, 04:26 PM | Originally posted by SwordMaster Hmm . . . a dwarven monk . . . interesting. Because of their stature, dwarves wouldn't make good monks IRL. But you probably knew that if the link in your sig indicates that you take karate (I do). I do too. And I'm a short, stocky guy, and I am pretty good at it. Just because you don't look like the typical martial artist doesn't mean anything. BTW, in game terms, a dwarvish monk is a great character. He gets a bonus to CON (important to any melee class) and a negative to CHA (the Monk's dump stat). All of the other abilities are gravy, and the Monk's fast movement makes up for the 20' Dwarf movement. |
| Ouroboros08-28-03, 02:48 PM | makes up for the slow movement the dripling stone only grows with time little Dire Bat:D |
| SwordMaster08-28-03, 10:44 PM | I have no doubt you're good at karate, HammerFist. And I'm not talking about looks--with *most* karate training you want long, flexible muscles (excercise: easy, but repititious), not big, bulky ones (excercise: hard 'n' heavy lifting). It's harder to get long muscles if you're of that build. Anyway . . . http://www.thereprieve.org/phpBB2/images/smiles/offtopic.gif :blush: |
| Ukkodin08-29-03, 02:41 PM | Per the comments on H2H fighting styles, dwarves do have their own H2H styles; just because most dwarven enemies are uncouth enough to attack "our" fortresses in such a fashion as to require hardened armor and weapons does NOT mean that dwarves lack proficiency in the unarmed arena. After all, there are situations that occasionally call for unarmed combat. (What better way to deal with drow than to sneak up on them and break their neck with your two hands? Unfortunately, Illithid/Mind Flayers are too dangerous to get that close.) As a result, anyone who wants a dwarven monk should feel free to take a class that represents these traditions. Breaking away from that, however: We need a good ale served here. After all, we're friends, right? :cheers: Anyway, any thoughts about the succession of rulers? |
| Dalmor ShadowSoul08-29-03, 03:30 PM | I WANA Join, I wAna Join , SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :angel: :) SMILE |
| HammerFist08-29-03, 10:21 PM | Unfortunately Dalmor, there is a spelling requirement to join (unless you're a Barbarian, of course). ;) |
| SwordMaster08-30-03, 11:42 AM | Hee hee, not really. *gets Dalmor some ale* You're #49. |
| Ouroboros08-31-03, 02:54 PM | You said it he is in #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul |
| Ouroboros09-01-03, 06:34 AM | I think if the king or emperor dies without someone to suceed them there will be a republic with priests and nobles. Only when quik action is needed they ellect a king mostly a general who brought back the most survivers of a war. |
| Ukkodin09-02-03, 08:30 PM | *bang, bang, bang* **hissssss** Puts aside new helmet to bring forth his comments. Greetings, fellow dwarves, and congratulations/welcome to our newest members. Perhaps, if we are attentive, our illustrious foundation founder, Mr. Fancypants (sp?), will find us, lest he become too lost in the ever expanding caverns (like that will happen to a dwarf :D ) Pardon me while I get back to the forge. |
| shortstak3709-02-03, 10:45 PM | can i join |
| Ouroboros09-03-03, 03:38 AM | 50 we are at 50 #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 Say a welcome to our newest member shortstak37 And because your number 50 ale is on the house:angel: |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-03-03, 05:12 PM | The end of the dwarves is nigh. |
| shortstak3709-03-03, 09:20 PM | i am so happy |
| Ouroboros09-04-03, 03:52 AM | sssss shortstak37 did somebody see you there elfs on this board don't imbarens you self... next time say "I am honered to be part of this foundation!" Waintress: Ok you guys had inuff:bored: |
| Ouroboros09-04-03, 03:55 AM | Originally posted by Getarnal_the_Drow The end of the dwarves is nigh. Really? I will have to ask there elven bretheren to not let there evil brothers free then. |
| JackRipper09-04-03, 10:39 AM | Welcome to this beautiful foundation, me fellow dwarves! Me be hopin' ye will enjoy it here, f'r I sure do. This foundation made me feel at home once again, with me dwarven friends. Because for a long time I had been an outcast, but the 'ospitality of these fine dwarves really helped me out. Originally posted by Getarnal_the_Drow The end of the dwarves is nigh. And ye, mister drow, should I consider that as a threat? 'cause if it is, me bloodaxe will taste blood once again!! DROW BLOOD!!! :love: Long live the dwarven foundation! Long live drow blood! (this was bloodaxe, my best friend. Forgive his manners, he likes blood...) |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 11:50 AM | I will have come and gone before you can even raise your axe.:b: |
| JackRipper09-04-03, 11:57 AM | Ye have come back again, and this time I will not tolerate yer insults anymore. Bloodaxe will taste blood on its blade once again!! YAHAA :fight!: vs :behold: |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 12:16 PM | Your word cut deepr than any blade. Farewell I shall never again trouble the dwarves. |
| JackRipper09-04-03, 12:21 PM | :confused: :confused: :confused: Leavin' so soon? What?? Ye forgot the fightin' part. PLEASE!! Me bloodaxe wants blood. Maybe he'll cut a little less deep in yer drow skin, so he'll only take a little blood. Or I will take back me words and we can just skip that and get to the fightin' part. PLEASE? :( |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 12:26 PM | Very well. I thrust my poisoned blade into your heart andas the poison flows through your body you realise you folly in crossing a drow. Farewell and may your bloodaxe faind a wiser owner in the future. |
| JackRipper09-04-03, 12:35 PM | I... should never... *gulp*... have trusted a drow... and... give him... a second chance... My dwarven... friends... could you please... find... a... cleric of Moradin... It hurts... :( And... if I... die... will you... avenge me? please... I... finally... felt home... amidst... my dwarven... friends... and... take care of bloodaxe... *passes out* |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 12:49 PM | As I walk away I see your bloodaxe on the ground. I pick it up, it will fetch a good price back in the underdark once melted it is down. |
| JackRipper09-04-03, 12:56 PM | *opens his eyes one last time* ...cough... please, not....... Bloodaxe... I... sigh... help me... please... help me... |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 12:57 PM | Your pleas are of no value to me. Your blood axe has seen its last day in dwarven hands. |
| weaponsmith09-04-03, 01:05 PM | I am here. My name is Doloft, son of the 2nd brother of the leader of the stone forge clan. I and gaintbane have killed every giant this world has thrown at us and know I will turn my attention to the drow that attack my brothers. Your little poison trick won’t work against me for my armor is thick and shield is tall. I kneel down and give Garth a potion. |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 01:10 PM | I put on my ring of invisibility and sneak behind Doloft. I place my shortsword against his neck and ask "any last requests Dwarf". |
| weaponsmith09-04-03, 01:23 PM | Only that I have a suggestion. “I use my Suggestion ability I have for being a LN Paladin” and request for to go back to your queen. |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 01:44 PM | HAHAHA Your puny spells can't penetrate my spell resistance. Prepare yourself to meet Moradin. I will not send you to meet him if you allow me to leave with your friends Bloodaxe as a Trophy. If you do nit I will kill you, leave with the axe and take one of your weapons as a Trophy too. |
| Ukkodin09-04-03, 03:24 PM | Aye, but where will you and yours go that we dwarves cannot follow? The Dwarven bloodoath of vengeance is an oath to be feared. Kindly leave, with nothing other than what you brought, and we will not consider war with the drow at this time. We need kings here to rally our cause, lest we lose treasures that are rightfully ours. |
| weaponsmith09-04-03, 03:44 PM | I will rather die then give anything to the like of you, but try to get that little dagger through my full-plate. HAHA |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-04-03, 04:32 PM | "You ask me about the getting a dagger through your armour but how can you defend against what you cannot see (activates ring of invisibility)." Your end comes now as I slip the blade into the visor of your helmet and ram it into your skull. "Your plate armour will make a good trophy" This is the last the dwarves will hear of me. |
| SwordMaster09-04-03, 08:04 PM | I have another dwarf! A cleric; domains Healing & Knowledge. He's a kind, popular priest of Moradin. I made him for Role-Play Online (http://rpol.net). Good timing, too . . . "In the name of Moradin!" *shatters drow's spine with his magic warhammer* *brings back JackRipper* Originally posted by Ouroboros And because your number 50 ale is on the house:angel: I'm member #20, but I had considered waiting for #21 (current drinking age where I live). :D |
| Ouroboros09-05-03, 03:49 AM | Casts anti-magicfield drow whe can se ya |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-05-03, 07:31 AM | AAARGH. I die.... please forgive me. I shall forever remember the dwarves as valiant warriors. Goodb....ye. Dies. |
| weaponsmith09-05-03, 07:39 AM | I slowly pull the dagger out of my head and pass out. Don’t worry my brothers; my ring of regeneration will bring me back for Silverbeard doesn’t want me to walk in his great hall just yet. |
| JackRipper09-05-03, 03:08 PM | W-what has happened? *looks in all directions confused, and examines the situation* Aha, I remember again! Ye were the one that took me best friend Bloodaxe with ye! HAVE AT YE!!! *Draws his throwing axe and throws it in the back of the dying drow with all his strength* Ye should've known better then to cross a dwarve!! Ye foul drow! *calmes himself and sighs* That drow almost killed me... Thank ye, me fellow dwarves! Ye saved me bloodace too! How can I thank ye all? Ah, I know of something: Everybody, it's ale on me! And why don't we use this drow body as fuel for our forges? ;) Long live my new friends! Long live Moradin! |
| weaponsmith09-05-03, 03:44 PM | I wake with a major headache. Did I hear the word Ale and free. I will drink your ale but I will drink it out of friendship not for repayment. For a dwarf will always come to the aid of a brother. I pick up gaintbane and stumble to the tavern. |
| shortstak3709-05-03, 10:53 PM | we dwarfes well always defeat the evil elfs that try to kill use |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-06-03, 12:02 PM | you have not truly seen the last of me foolish dwarves. |
| JackRipper09-06-03, 12:09 PM | Originally posted by Getarnal_the_Drow AAARGH. I die.... please forgive me. I shall forever remember the dwarves as valiant warriors. Goodb....ye. Dies. He died, and still he is alive? :confused: Maybe he turned into a ghost or somethin'. Ah, let him wander the underdark for an eternity, for he deserved his faith. *takes his bloodaxe and makes his way to the tavern with the others* |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-06-03, 12:11 PM | Don't you just love the clone spell i had someone cast for me as a contingency plan just in case. |
| JackRipper09-06-03, 12:15 PM | I suggest that you leave this place at once, f'r I have no desire to waste my time to ye when I could be sittin' next to me friends drinkin' a good mug o' ale! And even Bloodaxe doesn't want your black blood anymore, and that means somethin', I can tell ye that! *proceed my way to the tavern* |
| Getarnal_the_Drow09-06-03, 12:17 PM | very well goodbye forever dwarves. |
| Captain Longsword09-07-03, 10:44 AM | Ho, Sign me up and have a good barrel o' ale on reserve for me! AXE HIGH FELLOW KIN! !ROAR! !CHEEER! |
| Ouroboros09-08-03, 06:13 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword Welcome Captain Longsword give me some |
| Captain Longsword09-08-03, 12:05 PM | Ho, I thank ye for the honour, Ouroboros. Give you some ale? To hell with ye, get your own barrel! ROAR! CHEER! Captain Longsword |
| JackRipper09-08-03, 02:50 PM | Me was just givin' all dwarves a round in the tavern, so why don't ye join us and introduce yerself. Ye know, the dwarven foundation saved me life just a minute ago, that's why I'm buyin' all me brethren a mug o' ale! Long live dwarven ale! Long live our all members of the foundation! |
| weaponsmith09-08-03, 02:56 PM | AAHHHH!!! Nothing beats warm ale after a long hard battle. I drink to all the new Clansman. Here’s a question do you think Dwarves drink their ale warm or cold. I would say warm but Dwarves do live underground so it won’t be hard to have cold Ale. |
| JackRipper09-08-03, 03:02 PM | I don't bother wether it's warm, cold or wathever! As long as the ale is dwarven brew, it tastes like... well, like dwarven ale! But I don't know what other dwarves do. I just focus on me own mug, and then the next mug, and then the next... |
| SwordMaster09-08-03, 03:09 PM | *burns the drow's body* *burries remains in a box locked and trapped by the holy power of Moradin* *blesses JackRipper* *welcomes Captain Longsword* *begins a lengthy divination process to determine the whereabouts of the clone* |
| JackRipper09-08-03, 03:44 PM | Thank ye f'r the blessin'. I feel like I'm am reborn! Long live Moradin! Long live the Soul Forger! |
| Ukkodin09-08-03, 03:54 PM | My apologies for leaving the celebration early, but I have a project waiting at the forge, something special for our wronged friend. Long may Jack and all our brethren live under the protection of the Soul Forger. May Moradin continue to guard your back, as he did my ancestors, members of Clan Ironstar, from total annihilation at the hands of a much larger force of murderous band of orcs and trolls. |
| shortstak3709-08-03, 08:20 PM | sorry i cant have the tarvern ale i have a waterskin with never ending ale so i will drink all i want and not raise your bill |
| Captain Longsword09-09-03, 10:52 AM | Ho, Thank ye my fellow brethen, i prefer m'e ale cold after a battle an' warm when it's cold out, or in if i'm in the mines! Keep the ale coming! ROAR! CHEER! |
| SwordMaster09-09-03, 08:41 PM | JR: Hee hee, you are reborn! Shall we send word to the Elf Foundation to ask if they support drow? :smirk: |
| Ouroboros09-10-03, 03:37 AM | Drows are elfs in away so if they don't suport drow they betray there elven blood. Just as greydwarves and shield/hill dwarves are dwarves. |
| SwordMaster09-11-03, 05:24 PM | True enough. If we can punish them for this, they can do the same if a derro does anything against them. :bored: *comes into Dwarf Foundation HQ* "I have detected the location of the clone," says Barendd, the cleric. "And it takes 2 - 8 months in a lab for it to mature," adds Gyënk Greengem. "That gives us time to catch up with it before the spirit enters the body!" |
| JackRipper09-14-03, 11:03 AM | That sure was a nice party in the tavern. And now it is over, we can start plottin' our revenge, or not? I mean, he almost took me friend Bloodaxe with him to the Underdark, and I cannay let someone who's that EEEEVIL walk away without his deserved punishment! We must hunt him down! :fight!: :fight!: :invasion: :fight!: :fight!: Wo will join me? And what is the plan? |
| Freaking_Pirate09-14-03, 11:30 AM | not sure of what to do, but I'll go with you!!! |
| shortstak3709-14-03, 11:41 AM | i will join u |
| JackRipper09-14-03, 11:45 AM | Originally posted by SwordMaster True enough. If we can punish them for this, they can do the same if a derro does anything against them. :bored: *comes into Dwarf Foundation HQ* "I have detected the location of the clone," says Barendd, the cleric. "And it takes 2 - 8 months in a lab for it to mature," adds Gyënk Greengem. "That gives us time to catch up with it before the spirit enters the body!" Barendd, are ye ready with the divination? can ye tell us were we might start lookin'? Gyenk Greengem, what do ye mean by that? 'Cause I'm just a fighter with knowledge of his axe and armor, so I was curious wath ye was trying to say... And Freakin_Pirate and Shortstak37, ye are truly brave dwarven fellows for helpin' me out! We shall battle side by side and we shall fight the drow and all of his kin and cleansweep the Underdark of their evil taint! - So says Bloodaxe Long live me dwarven fellows! Long live revenge! Raaargh! |
| Captain Longsword09-14-03, 03:55 PM | Ho, RAAAARRGH! I'll join ye! RAAAARRGGHH! Long live Dwarves! RRRRRRRRAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH! |
| JackRipper09-14-03, 04:12 PM | THAT'S THE SPIRIT!!! COME ON! ANY MORE DWARVES WO WANT TO FIGHT FOR OUR DWARVEN PRIDE? MAY CLANGEDIN WATCH OVER US WHILE WE MARCH TOWARD BATTLE! RAAAAAAAAAAARGGGHHHH!!! LONG LIVE OUR DWARVEN PRIDE! LONG LIVE CLANGEDIN! |
| Captain Longsword09-14-03, 04:50 PM | Ho, RRRRRRRAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH HHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Indeed, tis the spirit, step forth fellow Dwarves! RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG GGHHHHHH!!!! |
| HammerFist09-14-03, 05:03 PM | I will join my brethern. |
| weaponsmith09-15-03, 06:49 AM | Did i hear the cry of war? You can count my axe in. |
| Captain Longsword09-15-03, 12:42 PM | Ho, RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGG GGHHHHHH! Welcome, fellow kin! Grab a yankard and let forth this cry! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Captain Longsword :fight!::invasion: :invasion: :fight!: |
| weaponsmith09-15-03, 03:20 PM | My followers are arm and ready. Just give us the word and we will march. May the forges burn hot with steel and the blood on my axe never dry. Silverbeard hear my cries of war and give me the strength to defeat my enemies. |
| Frostbite_Ravenheart09-15-03, 07:27 PM | Aye mighty warriors who can dig up there own iron and make there own weapons, i say there aint no better race of fighters them then. Maby not chasmatic but allways full of fun and laughter. Strong fortifications they build but show that the earth can be as beatifull at the trees for the same time. In the name of my three dwarves i have played i shall join you and slowly ween myself off the (half) elven threads :P My first dwarf was an "Scotish" Dwarven warrior who weilded a mighty six foot long greatsword and often rode might creatures into battle, some that walked, some that crawled and even rarer still some that flew! My second dwar (the last dwarf was my first "able-to-retire" dwarf in 3.0 and the second two are from 3.5 who actually made it..) was a irish lass who weilding anything that could come to reach and when not going skin against blade he would were spiked full plate (isent that odd going from nothing to a whole lot of somthing?) and weilded axe and sword. Third my dwarf was am Italyn dwarf who was (approritly :P) a Dwarven mason (Cleric/Paladin) who exceled at stonework but even more specilized then that making mighty dwarven-gates of great power, strength and magic adored with ruins of power and ancestory. ALL HAIL THE DWARF LORDS BRUENOR, DURIN THE DEATHLESS AND THAT CITDAL SUNDABAR LORD WHO IS FRIENDS WITH HELM THE DWARF-FRIEND!!!!!! |
| Ouroboros09-16-03, 05:26 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart Welcome Frostbite_Ravenheart behave on does elven treads do ;) |
| Ukkodin09-17-03, 02:41 PM | My axe is ready for war, my mug is ready for the feast to welcome newcomers, and my forge is ready for smithing. In other words: :bump: Come on, my brethren, we need a discussion here. What is the craft that your dwarf practices regularly? Brewing, smithing (black, weapon, armor?), mining, gem cutting, metalworking (ie: gold and silver work for jewelry): These are all common crafts associated with dwarves. Does your dwarf practice one or more of these? Or does s/he practice something different? |
| weaponsmith09-17-03, 02:57 PM | I'm a weapon, armor smith. I focus on only these thing b/c I what to be the best I what I do. But I do like to mine sometime. You aren’t going to find new metals lay on the surface you know. So I keep one eye on the smithing and another on new metal and techniques for forging. Well back to work. |
| HammerFist09-17-03, 06:47 PM | As the only Monk here (are there even any Rogues? I hope there's a few Clerics about), I'll do some scouting. Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu! |
| shortstak3709-17-03, 09:00 PM | i am a Cleric |
| Ouroboros09-18-03, 04:09 AM | I am a Abjurer the other races rely the mutch on there magic:smirk: |
| Tenzhi09-18-03, 04:27 AM | During the times I spent in Dwarven form, I learned the secrets of making Gutshaker from scratch - among other fine Dwarven brews. I also learned to forge weapons and armour with no hammer - just the pounding of my fists. But I am no member of this honourable - if rowdy - brethren. Nor do I intend to become one, as I am against these gatherings on principle - no offense. |
| Ouroboros09-18-03, 05:02 AM | non taken |
| JackRipper09-18-03, 09:44 AM | First af all I'd like ye all t' know that when I'm of the battlefield, I'm also able to make the occasional weapon. F'r example, I was the one that gave birth to me mighty axe Bloodaxe, only to let some nice wizard that I met on me many adventures enchant it and made it just as intelligent a weapon as I am. Yes, since then me and me axe have been best friends. And when I speak of me axe these recent days, the hunger for revenge starts to make me nervous and angry and all... I just can't wait 'till we've pinpointed the location of that drow! RRRrrrr... GRRRR..... RAARGHH! RRROOOAAAAAARRR!! RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!! !!! So thanks to all of ye wo are willin' to raise their axe to bring justice to our common enemy! We must teach those drow that messin' with dwarves is not something to get away with! Oh, and welcome, Frostbite_Ravenheart! |
| Captain Longsword09-18-03, 11:38 AM | Ho, AHHHH! The art of smithing, one i haven't pratised for many a year though my faithful axe LifeBane was forged by my very own hands. I have yet to have it enchanted by a wizard that had not yet tasted the steel of me faithful LifeBane. Well, me craft at this time tis, well i spose it would be jem cutting and Troll cutting. The mines around me home are swarmin' with em', and that has been takin up most of me time of late. Anyhow, i'm off for a brew.... where did i leave that cursed tankard?....... Many Thanks, Captain Longsword :fight!: |
| Frostbite_Ravenheart09-18-03, 06:40 PM | My main crafts tend to be either gate-building ( i have some exclenet storys for you in a high-mineral low-magic all dwarf game if you would care to here) and basic defense if i am a fighter. If i am a cleric/paladin/caster w/e i am usually a weapon/armor smithy beacuse i belive dwarves need more magic items (pluse i seriously helped with my great strength from spells and dwarven kind pluse my magic) The crafts i tend not to get into are boatcrafting simply beacuse boats die to fast and i dont like working with wood and i am so not a shiprider (as a dwarf) generally. However i dont always play my dwarves the same but i have yet to be a dwarven ship builder...would be intresting though... |
| SwordMaster09-20-03, 08:14 PM | Originally posted by shortstak37 i am a Cleric And so am I, Hammer. That is good. We shall need healing as we begin our attack against the drow! :smirk: Originally posted by JackRipper Gyenk Greengem, what do ye mean by that? 'Cause I'm just a fighter with knowledge of his axe and armor, so I was curious wath ye was trying to say..."I am a wizard, laddie buck! I study the stuff. The drow has a clone growin' tae replace him since we killed 'im!" he says, handing Jack his spellbook, which is open to clone (see PHB spell description). |
| Ukkodin09-22-03, 05:34 PM | I would like to call the attention of our membership to a potentially valuable thread about Dwarven consumables entitled "Dwarven Food". If you haven't checked it out, it is potentially worth your time. Here's the link: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101568 I would be interested in what people think. Are they right on track, or completely off base? |
| HammerFist09-22-03, 10:54 PM | Wadda we need mushroom for? We've got roaring fires, ripe meat off the bone! |
| Ouroboros09-23-03, 08:33 AM | Looks like they talk about gully dwarves :D |
| SwordMaster09-23-03, 03:19 PM | There is a Drow Foundation--I found it in someone's sig! Rise up and gather arms! "Stop! There is no need for violence," says Father Barendd. "Revenge is foolish. All of us are alive, thank Moradin." |
| Captain Longsword09-23-03, 03:22 PM | Ho, Curse you Father Barendd! Gather arms my brethen, we lay siege to the Drow at Dawn! RRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!:invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: Captain Waraxe |
| Frostbite_Ravenheart09-23-03, 04:49 PM | My dwarven allies i have told the elves and half-elves of your words of war and i told them to consider an allaince. However i need you simply to agree that we need the elves and half-elves help and i will do the rest of the negotiating. The three forces shall unite against a commen enemy! Axe, Bow, Sword and Flying hammers shall unite and destroy those cursed black skinned elves! |
| TheJester from Winchester09-23-03, 10:50 PM | Praise be wit ye Brothers. My axe is strong enough for the toughest Dragon hide and I be pledgin it to ya! Also a member of the Half-Orc foundation b/c of my current charater I enjoy the big green meanies but dwarves come first and foremost. |
| Ouroboros09-24-03, 07:40 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart #0000000053 TheJester from Winchester Welcome TheJester from Winchester one of many half-orc/dwarf players I have a Question to you al in some fantasy worlds dwarfs have pointy ears is this a bad thing? |
| Tenzhi09-24-03, 08:30 AM | Hey guys, FYI foundation threads have been closed in the past due to these silly little in-character wars. Try to keep it marginally on-topic and mostly OOC lest a perfectly good thread wind up in the dead-book. |
| Tenzhi09-24-03, 08:32 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros I have a Question to you al in some fantasy worlds dwarfs have pointy ears is this a bad thing? Sometimes I like it, other times I don't. The worst part about it is that it reminds me that some mythology points to Dwarves actually being an offshoot of elves. |
| TheJester from Winchester09-24-03, 10:48 AM | All I know is poity ears or not my axe still cleaves the same. |
| Ukkodin09-24-03, 12:35 PM | I have always felt that dwarves should not have pointed ears. While I recognize that some folk tales/mythologies have given dwarves points, I am of the impression that these "dwarves" were more gnomish than dwarvish, as we think of dwarves. Furthermore, the tendency of artists to overdo the pointed ears has led to a tendency to make them look like the wings from a bird or plane. Therefore, while I do not object to people thinking their dwarves have pointed ears, I will always see my dwarf as having more rounded ears. (After all, points might have a tendency to be pricked by low-lying rock formations.) |
| Captain Longsword09-24-03, 02:37 PM | Ho, So true. I once lost the point of one of me' ears in i rockfall back sometime ago... |
| TheJester from Winchester09-24-03, 04:20 PM | Well Brothers ye be wantin some points on yer ears thats all fine wit me. Mine own ears are flat as the anvil I pound. And as round as the roundest Round Shield. The way I be seein it is if ye want the pointy things 'ave me I dont care for me axe still swings ever on. Also, I need some help on a Dwaven Fighter/Cleric {3.5}. He Has the ablity to Craft Magic Arms and Armor. Ftr lvl 4 Cleric Lvl 6 currently playing in a Hack~N~Slash/ Monty~Haul game wanna try to convert the PC's/DM to RP. The help I need focuses on how to Roll Play and get interaction in character from other Pc's. Suggestions would be nice on how you have done or seen it done or think it could be done thanks. |
| SwordMaster09-26-03, 01:08 PM | I'll give you some advice when I wake up, Jester. Dwarves should not have pointy ears! Really, Tenzhi? If a war actually started, I was thinking of starting a thread at Map of the Planes. Gyënk Greengem sighs. "Ah'm a friend o' the elves, Cap'n, but Ah fear they won't be helpin' us in a war such as this. The foundation accepts all elves, even the drow. But the dwarves shall prevail! This is a great bonny foundation; Ah believe we'll have nae trouble at all." Barendd, however, continues his stand for peace. "As I have said, revenge will do nothing. Lay down thy weapons! The evil deeds of that man are no reason to begin such a racist war on his kind." |
| JackRipper09-26-03, 02:05 PM | Well, sorry, me was away f'r a little while, f'r I have thought 'bout the situation, as best as me brains be able t' do. and the conclusion of this week of long thinking is: RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!! ;) of course that's not all... :D I just want t' say that me thinks the elves should know wo their friends are, and drow are definitely not. I say so 'cause they indeed have their own foundation, and they are all EEEVILLL! So I do nay think that fightin' evil drow is a racist war, it's a war against all that is evil and bad in this world. So my conclusion is, still: BATTLE!!! [quote]Curse you Father Barendd! Gather arms my brethen, we lay siege to the Drow at Dawn![quote] and NEVER curse a fellow dwarve, captain longsword. These words should be saved for the battle, not f'r our own people! Still, yer spirit is great! [quote]My dwarven allies i have told the elves and half-elves of your words of war and i told them to consider an allaince. However i need you simply to agree that we need the elves and half-elves help and i will do the rest of the negotiating. The three forces shall unite against a commen enemy! Axe, Bow, Sword and Flying hammers shall unite and destroy those cursed black skinned elves! [quote] Ahh, the sounds of battle with elves and half-elves at our side allready bounce b'tween me ears! Let the elves decide if they wish to join the good cause, and rid the world of their evil cousins! Never has there been fought a more glorious battle when bows and axes fight alongside one another! And if it is illegal or anything against the CoC, then we should not do anything like that. It would be suicide to resist against the powers of the Wizards, like it is impossible to resist against the gods, or the DM himself. It would only lead to the downfall of our great dwarven foundation. If there is anyway to avoid this, and still have a battle, tell me, f'r I am interested. |
| Captain Longsword09-26-03, 03:28 PM | Ho, Tis a relief to find one of our brethen that is still up for a little head breakin! I apollogise f'r me comment Jack Ripper, the hate for't Drow was burnin' so fiercly inside i... RRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGG GGGGGGGGGHHHHH! Death to the Drow! Damn, i appologise for mi outbreak, i find it hard to control mi'self ont' brink of a war... I know not if we can un-illegaly fight the Drow thought JackRipper, But if we could... RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG GGGGHHHHHHHH! :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: :invasion: ;) |
| SwordMaster09-28-03, 12:13 PM | un-illegalyIt's called legally. :P |
| Captain Longsword09-28-03, 12:47 PM | Thank ye for that... I think... |
| SwordMaster09-30-03, 02:05 PM | http://www.geocities.com/flammabledragon/drowmonk.TXT Gyënk Greengem grins. "Look at this! That dirty elf is trying to punch! Ha!" says the wizard, spinning his masterwork bastard sword. [OoC: Isn't that sort of an oxymoron? A masterwork bastard sword? Well, that's what he has, anyway.] |
| Ouroboros10-04-03, 12:33 PM | Do dwarves bath my dwarf does after a hard working day he goes relaxing in the dwarven bathing house |
| JackRipper10-04-03, 02:06 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Do dwarves bath my dwarf does after a hard working day he goes relaxing in the dwarven bathing house Of course we bath... At least, I bath every now and then. If we wouldn't, we probably all die at a younger age then humans, or those filthy orcs even! Allways remember that while we are a rough folk, we are still civilised. Allthough I do not have time to go that often, I go whenever I can. And Bloodaxe gets cleaned after every battle that I've fought! Long live dwarven civilisation! Long live our shining armor! |
| SwordMaster10-05-03, 02:15 PM | Yes, dwarves bathe! There are many who don't believe dwarves and half-orcs bathe, but we do...at least, we do. :smirk: A bathing house sounds like what dwarves might have. After staring at his spellbook for some time, Gyënk Greengem opens a gate to a land known as the Orient, also using the spell to call a spellcasting friend. The gate shuts as he steps through, giving the dwarf a puzzled look. Having learned Dwarven from a korobokuru, the human shujenga understands him easily. Gyënk Greengem begins to explain in detail the present situation of the Dwarf Foundation. |
| Captain Longsword10-05-03, 03:55 PM | Ho, o' course we bathe! As a mater of fact, i have just finshed one o' my more favoured pastimes; Drkin a cool mug o' ale while sokin' meself in a nice, warm tub! Aaaaahhhhhhh, twas almost more relaxing than't sound of a craking Goblinoid skull... Captain Longsword |
| Ukkodin10-07-03, 12:42 PM | Aye, we bathe! And to really clean our beards, we sit in the rooms where the steam pools are, so we can steam-clean our beards - in other words, all those thermal pools act like saunas for us dwarves. |
| SwordMaster10-08-03, 02:44 PM | Father Barendd smiles as Gyënk Greengem shouts, "Ah've been feelin' dirty... TAE THE BONNY BATHIN' HOUSE!" He starts to unbutton his shirt when his friend puts up his hand. The dwarf blushes and says, "Of course. Ah can stay dirty for a wee bit longer." The shujenga begins casting a spell. |
| King Gromphf Goldstein10-09-03, 02:59 PM | what is the dwarf foundation? I am a dwarf! |
| Ukkodin10-09-03, 03:07 PM | The Dwarf Foundation is a gathering place for all who appreciate the dwarven race, and its contributions to the societies of DnD. It is a place to help focus your thoughts and opinions about the race, from hygiene (re: the last few posts) to food, to relations with the other DND races, etc. If this appeals to you, then Welcome to the Foundation! |
| King Gromphf Goldstein10-09-03, 03:10 PM | sign me up then! |
| Ukkodin10-09-03, 07:56 PM | Hey, Ouroboros, it looks like we have a new member! Let's break out the ale! While we're adding members, I'd like to nominate Orcy the Green Wonder for an "Honorable Membership" in our foundation. He has been a great supporter, and an honorable companion to us dwarves. Any other nominations? Requests for membership? |
| Nos-4-A210-09-03, 10:35 PM | :bigeyes: finally a place in which I can feel like I belong. SIGN ME UP! |
| Ouroboros10-10-03, 04:15 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart #0000000053 TheJester from Winchester #0000000054 King Gromphf Goldstein #0000000055 Nos-4-A2 Welcome to the dwarven foundation both of you. :king: and King Gromphf Goldstein i am king in this foundation wel at least till our true lord Elliot Quincy Fanypants III returns |
| weaponsmith10-10-03, 07:31 AM | I thought I would drop in for a pint. I have bin in the cave searching for the lost soul forge and I will find it. Then no giant will stand in my way. Soul Forge: A willing dwarf can scarifies itself to the forge and the next weapon made has a 50/50 chance of becoming intelligent. Cheers. Doloft – Silverbeard Champion |
| King Gromphf Goldstein10-10-03, 03:34 PM | this rounds on me! *clang* |
| Nos-4-A210-10-03, 04:23 PM | FREE ALE! Now who of ye knows a good drinking song? |
| SwordMaster10-10-03, 07:07 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros :king: and King Gromphf Goldstein i am king in this foundation wel at least till our true lord Elliot Quincy Fanypants III returns King Pelinore wasn't the king. At least not where the story took place. I liked King Pelinore. :D "Oh yeah?" Gyënk Greengem says challengingly to Gromphf, "Well this round's on ME!" He laughs and casts a flurry of spells which, among other things, send mugs of ale flying toward everyone, and a dwarven band playing loud music. He graciously gets his shujenga friend some sake, but he takes some dwarven ale instead. Father Barendd politely explains that he doesn't drink outside of religious ceremonies. |
| rich293910-11-03, 10:13 AM | I noticed there were quite a few dwarven sub races that I have never heard about in the first post... anyone mind telling me where I can find them? |
| Ouroboros10-11-03, 01:01 PM | Hill Dwarfs (player handbook) Mounton Dwarfs (Monster Manual) Grey Dwarfs (Monster Manual/forgotten realms races of ferun) Derro (Monster Manual :mad: i have one far better slayer guide to Derro :cool: ) Deep Dwarfs (Monster Manual) Azer (Monster Manual) Shield Dwarfs (forgotten realms: races of ferun) Gold Dwarfs (forgotten realms: races of ferun) Artic Dwarfs (forgotten realms: races of ferun) Wild Dwarfs (forgotten realms: races of ferun) Korobokuru's (Oriental Adventures) Gully Dwarfs (Dragonlance Campain setting) Stone Dwarfs (Kamakar playerhandbook) (Jade Dwarfs) (my desine) |
| drachentoeter10-11-03, 02:27 PM | I'm quite sure I can speak for all other races on behalf of this "bathing dwarves thingy". It is greatly appreciated that dwarves take bathes. Now if you could only work on the periods between them (at least once a month, if it isn't asking to much) it would be even more appreciated. Also sweating in your beards isn't really considered steamcleaning them (by other races, that is..). ;) |
| Nos-4-A210-11-03, 02:41 PM | Thems fighting words lizard boy. If I wasn't the bigger dwarf here I might comment on your constant shedding. But I won't go there. |
| King Gromphf Goldstein10-12-03, 12:24 PM | me favorite drinking song goes like this... Gold gold gold gold gold gold gold gold gold.... |
| Nos-4-A210-12-03, 12:28 PM | Works fer me! |
| TheJester from Winchester10-13-03, 10:47 AM | Drinking song: What do you do with a drunkin Dwarf What do you do with a drunkin Dwarf What do you do with a drunkin Dwarf early* in the morning. Shave his beard with a rusty razor Shave his beard with a rusty razor Shave his beard with a rusty razor early* in the morning. Take him to the pub and get him drunker Take him to the pub and get him drunker Take him to the pub and get him drunker early* in the morning. Thats what you do with a drunkin dwarf Thats what you do with a drunkin dwarf Thats what you do with a drunkin dwarf early* in the morning. *Early is pronounced (Earleye) |
| Ukkodin10-13-03, 12:21 PM | "Sweatin' into our beards" isn't the plan, but we actually do that before our dip into the baths for a proper scrubbing from the basalt rocks to get the grime of the mines/forges from our hands and backs. And I mildly misspoke earlier when I nominated Orcy for an "Honorable Membership"; it should have been an "Honorary Membership", but he is still an honorable individual who deserves our recognition for his support of our great foundation. |
| Noth10-14-03, 04:49 PM | :tiphat: Room for one more? |
| Ouroboros10-15-03, 01:19 PM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart #0000000053 TheJester from Winchester #0000000054 King Gromphf Goldstein #0000000055 Nos-4-A2 #0000000056 Noth must i answer that?:( |
| Ukkodin10-17-03, 05:45 PM | You should never have to answer anything of that nature, Ourobors. As you said before, if someone wants to become a member, all they have to do is say so. However, until our illustrious founder finds his way back, we shall have to rely on you to keep the membership rolls in reasonable, logical (to a dwarf) order. Which, by the way, you have done an admirable job of keeping up with. All cheers to Ouroboros! |
| Captain Longsword10-18-03, 08:03 AM | Ho, Aye that you ave' Ouroboros! We praise you for ye efforts in this foundation... it as becom' quite the place to take a drink with me' fellow dwarves....I's ave just finished one o mi adventurs and wonder if any o you fancy sharin your tales? Mine was noe o't ones where you fight a couple gobbos and get the treasure at the end, which just 'appened t' be a large tankard and a very large pile t' treasure!! Agggghhhhh, the smell o' god in't moring!! |
| Captain Longsword10-18-03, 08:04 AM | O and pardon mi spellin mistakes! |
| Ouroboros10-18-03, 01:28 PM | Thanks my brothers (and sisters if they are present) This round is on me! And Captain Longsword don't feel bad about spelling (i am worse) Well it is hart to write both in the cumon and dwarven script. As for some adventures i tried some goblin ale it tasted like :censored: and smelled like a dead cow never again ;) |
| Captain Longsword10-18-03, 02:17 PM | Ho, AARRRRGGHHH FFFFFRRREEEE AAAALLLLLEEEE!!!!! I thank ye for ye pardons in't spellin department... i have not been overly educated... anywho RRRRAAAARGGGGH FFFFRRRRREEEEEE AAAAALLLLLE!!!!! RAISE YOUR TANKARDS IN A ROYALE TOAST!! TO OUROBOROS, GRAND CHAMPION OF THE DWARVEN FOUNADTION!!! HHHHAAAAAAZZZZZZAAAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!! Captain Longsword :fight!: |
| JackRipper10-18-03, 04:19 PM | Well, this conversation g't me thinkin', ye know... And ye all know I'm good at that! If there be any thinkin' to do, give me some time, and yer sure to get the correct answer, usually a very well considered one. Ahem... Ow, but I mentioned earlier that I was thinkin', right? Curse me, f'r I f'rgot about what me was thinkin' about! Lemme think f'r a while... Ah, I remember! See, when me be thinkin', ye always get the correct answer... right! Now I was thinkin' about our great leader of the Dwarven Foundation. Me was wonderin'; who moight this leader be, wo is written as number one in every member list, but still I have nay had the chance to meet the grand dwarve! Who and where is he, and when does he return??? And I must add to this, that although you're not the real leader, ye sure act like one, Ouroboros! And f'r that, me would like to raise a mug of dwarven ale in yer 'onor! Praise our dwarven leader! Praise our dwarven honor! |
| Nos-4-A210-18-03, 04:44 PM | *Looks pensively as he swirls ale in mug* We need something exciten to happen. Drinken and bathen aren't worthy of any grand tales! |
| Captain Longsword10-18-03, 04:48 PM | Ho, Aye... *peers toward axe on floor*... I 'ave an idea....:smirk: |
| SwordMaster10-18-03, 09:05 PM | "Somethin' exiting? Just look here, laddie buck!" He points to the shujenga, who has finished his spell. "Behold Oskar the Great, the grandest milit'ry commander of all time and father to me dear wife! Died valiantly in battle long ago, and now, through mah guid friend - a master of ancestor summonin' if I do say so mahself - Oskar of the Gorunn clan has risen again to lead us into the great war against the drow!!!" :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: [JR: Elliot Quincy Fanypants III joined the U.S. Navy IRL (I think it was the Navy) a while ago. We haven't heard from him since. He designated Ouroboros to take over until he returned.] |
| Nos-4-A210-19-03, 11:07 PM | *Grabs his adamantium dwarven platemail, his adamantium large shield with a snake-like legless and wingless red wyrm coiled in a complex pattern around an anvil, his gloves of speed, girdle of giant strength, amulet of health, boots of fortification and his mighty fire burst waraxe that seems more like a crackling flame coming out of a metal shaft. Fully suited up he raises his waraxe* TO BATTLE!!! (Note: all items are equivalent to +5 unless an ability takes up some of it. :D ) |
| JackRipper10-20-03, 06:26 AM | Aye, ye have quite the fancy equipment! As f'r me, I only have me strong iron plate mail and of course me best friend Bloodaxe. He alone can strike down all of the drow with one moighty swing! I don't need anything else then me Bloodaxe. But ye sure look great dossed up in yer +5 stuff! And I hereby pledge me loyalty and that of Bloodaxe to yer noble cause, to bring destruction upon the rotten race of drow! In these underground caverns there is only place f'r one of us, and since we were here earlier, I guess we have to fight for our rights! And I will follow ye, Oskar the Great, f'r I am but a humble dwarve compared to yer stature! So lead on, t'wards BATTLE!!! RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGHH HHHHH!!!! :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: Praise our dwarven equipment! Long live Oskar the Great! |
| Captain Longsword10-20-03, 10:18 AM | Ho, Aye, i also plegde my axe, Lifebane to yer war efforts!!! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! !! To battle!!!!!!! :fight!: |
| TheJester from Winchester10-20-03, 01:04 PM | Aye, I Garn Stonebreaker doth pledge my Hammer to slay the mightiest foes and as well as my healing capablities to comfort thy wounds. HOOHAAAAH!!!!!! Long live Moradin our Rightous Father!!! |
| Ouroboros10-21-03, 03:48 AM | A question to JackRipper: Do you have trouble with goblins that mistake you axe for the holy weapon of Maglubyet? |
| JackRipper10-21-03, 05:49 AM | GOBLINS!! RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!! When we're talkin' about drow, AND then about goblins and the cursed Magubliyet too, I find it hard to keep me mind on the subject!!! But aye, in one of me adventurin' days, I was travelin' with Golmir and with me Bloodaxe, two good friends of mine. Me friends and I traveled through the woods, ne'ver knowin' the evilness of the monsters that lurked within! So we sat down and chatted f'r a long while, and then we fell asleep... If twasn't me Bloodaxe that warned me that night, the bloody hobgoblins would've cut our throats! Nay did I know, that those hobgoblins were after me Bloodaxe, instead of me and Golmir. After Bloodaxe awoke me and Golmir, the hobgoblins had already grasped me Bloodaxe away from me! I was defenseless without him, but me good friend Golmir took his Dwarven thrower, threw it whit all his strength against the spine of the cursed hobgoblin that held me Bloodaxe, and we fought them off easily! If I think back on that day, I was but a moments thought away from me and me Bloodaxe forever being separated! Since then, I have carved two words in the hilt of me Bloodaxe: DWARVES ONLY! I hope that'll make them think twoice in the future! RRRAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!! Long live me friend Golmir! Long live me friend Bloodaxe! |
| weaponsmith10-21-03, 10:53 AM | I was thinking of retiring my friend Doloft for awhile. He needs time to work in his shop. So I’m looking for a new character to replace him. I was reading the dragon magazine and saw the article on were/creatures. It got me thinking about making a Dwarven/werebear. He would need 9 levels before becoming a full fledge werebear and then I think I would make him into a ranger. I was thinking polar bear as the type of bear b/c our campaigns are located in Nesme’. So he would have a white beard and hair and I would make him a natural lycanthrope. He would be LG. Any thought or suggestions? |
| Ouroboros10-23-03, 04:19 AM | No you did wel:cool: |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-23-03, 04:24 AM | ...Greetings Great Earth Folk - may your Beards grow ever longer. Dwarf axe - ever Friend of mine in battle. Though I have Elven Blood - my life I would give for Trist - Dwarven Defender in our adventuring group. Whose Axe has saved my life many a time - and for her - my dweomer is ever ready. |
| SwordMaster10-24-03, 12:32 PM | Oskar raises a huge dwarven waraxe, obviously magical, in one hand and shouts, "Fall in, archers in back! I didn't jolly well rise from me grave ta play games! March!" Barendd leans toward Gyënk Greengem and says, "Not all clerics are pacifists such as myself. Although thy endeavors are foolish, I shall notify the leader of a group of cleric warriors of the Earth domain. He is a member of my church." "Ah thank ye greatly, Barendd." [OoC: How are we going to go about this? Does someone want to start game threads on Map of the Planes?] @weaponsmith: Sounds like a good idea. :cool: @Silmarien Aldalome: Wanna join with us and battle your evil counterparts? :D |
| JackRipper10-24-03, 12:59 PM | Lucky me, I'm not a bloody archer! To the back, he sais! Har Har, 'tis so funny! Fightin' from a distance is not really my favorite stile, ye see? But forget me pointless and disrespectfull blatherin', f'r it'll nay help us in our great war! And greetings to ye, oh wanderer of the forests, Silmarien Aldalome! I hope yer not offended when I spoke so disrespectfull about fightin' from distances, f'r elves tend to favor that fightin' stile. 'Tis just not what I prefer... Mumbling in himself, Garth says: (Ah, me and me big mouth! I should 'ave known there was one of the elves in here!) But I greatly support the idea that we join forces, the brave dwarven race and the clever elves! Once again, side by side, this time we'd battle all of the elves evil cousins, and it would be a glorious fight! Axes and hammers, bows and swords, side by side, no time f'r words! That's me motto! RAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHH!!!! So, after me charismatic speech, do the elves want to join, oh great Silmarien Aldalome? Long live our great dwarven race! Long live the beautiful elven race! |
| Ukkodin10-24-03, 01:12 PM | One needn't worry about an intentional arrow/bolt in the back when the archers/crossbowmen are friendly. As a general once said, the risk is acceptable when fighting a loathsome (:) ) foe. On a side note, have my fellow dwarves been following the "Dwarven Food" thread? I would be interested in what my fellows think of the comments about protein sources for us (and remember, our beers are also extremely nourishing, a meal in a mug so to speak). |
| weaponsmith10-24-03, 01:26 PM | As much as I would love to say that you can survive on beer, it’s not true. You do get some nutrients but not enough. I remember reading an article on is subject. You would need to drink over a gallon of beer an hour and still would need some vitamins to meet your daily requirements. Sorry |
| Ukkodin10-24-03, 01:36 PM | I was attempting to make a joke based on the stereotype of dwarves and beer. I guess it didn't go over. Oh well. Perhaps mushrooms, fish, goats, sheep, water and misc. traded fruits and vegetables will have to suffice for the dwarven diet. :) |
| weaponsmith10-24-03, 01:56 PM | I'm not saying rule out beer for a food source. It just can’t be the primary. Dwarves would just need to eat a steak once and a while. Trust me there is a lot of good thing in beer. I would know I brew my own. IC: Doloft calls for strength from Silverbread to help us with this war. As he slowly walk to the front lines. You see a small trail of crystal falling off is armor and his waraxe glows a blood red. He fastens his tower shield that depicts Silverbread standing over a fallen giant on it on his arm. Then shouts,” Today we will become legends.” |
| little black bill10-25-03, 03:27 PM | Can I join yer group? Heres to the All the bearded ladies out there!! |
| JL371210-26-03, 01:51 AM | I figured this might be the best place to post this questions, so forgive me if it seems like I'm hijacking the thread or anything of the sort. I've had a number of dwarven characters the following are a list of a few and their names: Wulfgar Soulforger- male hill dwarf fighter Einkil Greyskull- male grey dwarf sorcerer Goradin Grimaxe- male hill dwarf cleric of clangeddin Roarick Wildblood- male wild dwarf barbarian/ranger/druid Now I'm trying to make a new dwarven character but can't quite get a good name (I don't wanna repeat the ones I've had, or copy some famous dwarf, something new or unused but good) On top of which, I still can't decide between hill or grey, or between fighter or cleric (or both). Please, some advice Also, on another note, regarding anyone whose read (or knows about) the Races of Faerun or the Underdark book that came out. Which of the two (if any) give the most info/detail in the history/personality/and general culture of grey dwarves? I don't know which to buy first out of the two, and want the one I'll use most (don't really care much for the other underdark races). |
| Tenzhi10-26-03, 01:57 AM | Originally posted by SwordMaster A bathing house sounds like what dwarves might have. After staring at his spellbook for some time, Gyënk Greengem opens a gate to a land known as the Orient, also using the spell to call a spellcasting friend. Bath house? Orient? Reminds me of my Dwarven Sumo. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-26-03, 03:59 AM | Originally posted by JackRipper Lucky me, I'm not a bloody archer! To the back, he sais! Har Har, 'tis so funny! Fightin' from a distance is not really my favorite stile, ye see? But forget me pointless and disrespectfull blatherin', f'r it'll nay help us in our great war! And greetings to ye, oh wanderer of the forests, Silmarien Aldalome! I hope yer not offended when I spoke so disrespectfull about fightin' from distances, f'r elves tend to favor that fightin' stile. 'Tis just not what I prefer... Mumbling in himself, Garth says: (Ah, me and me big mouth! I should 'ave known there was one of the elves in here!) But I greatly support the idea that we join forces, the brave dwarven race and the clever elves! Once again, side by side, this time we'd battle all of the elves evil cousins, and it would be a glorious fight! Axes and hammers, bows and swords, side by side, no time f'r words! That's me motto! RAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHH!!!! So, after me charismatic speech, do the elves want to join, oh great Silmarien Aldalome? Long live our great dwarven race! Long live the beautiful elven race! *bows low and long* :bow: Piercing green eyes - bright - greet you. Great tidings! On this - the Half-Elves stand with the Stone Folk. Our Sword and Dweomer at your service. Long may your Line Prosper. Silmarien To flight JL3712: Gobrad, Jogath, Halrabedor, Barakzumbar, Zirakar, Zirakarumbar, Barandorazar, Xantharakar, Aarendarekor, Darazumbar |
| Tenzhi10-26-03, 04:34 AM | Originally posted by JackRipper Long live the beautiful elven race! Not if my plans come to fruition... Beautiful... puh. :behold: |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-26-03, 04:40 AM | :rofl: TENZHI! You gorgeous BRAT! long.....live......Dwarves and their beauty that mirrors all the Stone of Life. (I was going to say "elves" too - but Sil is a DWARF lover here! I'll have to get Tenzhi at the Elfy threads!!! ;)) :bow: |
| JackRipper10-27-03, 01:47 PM | Then, me great half-elven and elven allies, friends and brothers, I greet ye and will give to ye the service of a great and famous axe Bloodaxe and his master Garth! I would rather shave off me beard then see ye in the hands of a filthy drow! After Garth said this, he looks down and mumbles something in himself: Ai, well, I'll have to consider me words more carefully in the future. I cannay thank ye more, but I will leave the talkin' to our legendarious Oskar of the Gorunn Clan from now on, f'r he sure is a greater and more inspiring leader than I would ever be! Great Oskar of the Gorunn Clan, I hereby officially pledge me service to yer great cause, and may me bloodaxe cut of a lot of drow heads under yer command! RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG GGGGGGHHHHHHHH Long live the Silverbearded One! Long live the great Clangedin! |
| Captain Longsword10-27-03, 02:04 PM | Ho, I mi'self am a memebr o' the great Clan o' Gorunn! I thank ye for ye pledge! RRRRRRAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!! TO BATTLE!!!!! Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| JackRipper10-27-03, 03:01 PM | So yer sayin' yer one of the Gorunn Clan? Yer a member of the clan of Oskar the Great? Aye, If ye are, then I do pledge me bloodaxe to ye to... Long live the Gorunn Clan! Long live our dwarven brethren! |
| Captain Longsword10-27-03, 03:09 PM | Ho, I thank ye' for yer' pledge Great Ripper! Mi great axe Lifebane, shall be be yur side when't battle is joined!!!! RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG GGGGHHHHH!! Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| Ouroboros10-29-03, 03:58 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart #0000000053 TheJester from Winchester #0000000054 King Gromphf Goldstein #0000000055 Nos-4-A2 #0000000056 Noth #0000000057 little black bill Well little black bill take youre change what do you like more girls with stait bearths or curly? :) My brothers you will be amesed of al the wonders under the mouton mushroom jungles and yes there can even grow apples under mountons look i found a butterfly :D |
| Ukkodin10-30-03, 05:32 PM | Let us raise an ale to the glories of dwarves: Stupendous metalwork, quality foods (sorry, but elven fare is occasionally too spicy for my tastes), great libations (ales, mostly, but limited wines, whiskies and liquers as well), and the best stonework. In addition, we can roll trolls and bash orcs (never half-orcs) better than most. Goblins? They're good for target practice. :) Drow? We all know what can be done there. :D |
| Nos-4-A210-30-03, 06:22 PM | CHEERS!! *Chugs ale and slams mug. Picks up fire burst axe* Ok laddie-bucks! Shall we? |
| Captain Longsword10-31-03, 03:10 AM | *Thrusts tankard into the air, ale flying out in all directions* A toast, to the Dwarves, and to the clan of Gorunn, and our awe inpirin' leader Oskar!!! RRRRRAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!!! TO THE DWARVES, GREATEST OF PEOPLES!!!!!! JOIN ME AND NOS-4-A2 IN OUR TOAST LONG LIVE THE DWARVES!!!! HAZAAARRRRRR!!! Captain Waraxe Dwarven Foundation #51 |
| JackRipper11-01-03, 04:29 AM | HAHAHAHAAAAAA After all the serious discussions of late 'bout war and all, I gladly join yer toast! So we're toastin' about the glory of dwarves, aye? Well, it'd be a shame not t' join yer toast! Long live the glorious dwarven race! Long live the dwarven foundation! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!! |
| Captain Longsword11-01-03, 07:57 AM | Ho, Aye, tis good to see others join our cause!! HAHAHAAAA JOIN OUR TOAST!!! LONG LIVE THE DWARVEN RACE!!! LONG LIVE THE DWARVEN FOUNDATION!!!! LONG LIVE OUROBOROS, THE GRAND UNITER!!!! RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH HHH!!!! |
| BrianMc22311-02-03, 01:47 PM | I pledge my might to the Dwarven Foundation. (AKA, I want to join.) |
| SwordMaster11-02-03, 04:10 PM | Welcome, friend! :) *passes BrianMc223 a mug of strong dwarven ale* *joins the toast already in progress* From the signature of little black bill (member #57) Drow Foundation (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52149) :bow::bow::bow::thumbsup::bounce:Do you swear you shall not commit treason? |
| aravilar_holistacia11-02-03, 07:52 PM | To all members of the Dwarven Foundation: The Harper Foundation is searching for Those Who Harp to join as the Foundation's High Harpers. There are six slots left for such members, after which they are filled all members will be Harpers. Please support Those Who Harp, and join soon! The standings are as follows: Member No. Name #00001 Taeleraed_Saahdel (currently has not replied) #00002 Aravilar_Holistacia #00003 Gellion #00004 Mr. Waesel The High Harpers are on a first-come, first-serve basis with an automatic High Harper status for the leader of the Dwarven Foundation, should he/she choose to accept membership. |
| aravilar_holistacia11-02-03, 08:15 PM | To all members of the Dwarven Foundation: The Harper Foundation is searching for Those Who Harp to join as the Foundation's High Harpers. Silmarien Aldalome is now the fifth High Harper. There are only five High Harper positions left. I will now limit the applicants to the leaders of the foundation of the races because we need to have a good representation of the peoples of the Realms. The standings are now as follows: #00001 Taeleraed_Saahdel (currently has not replied) #00002 Aravilar_Holistacia #00003 Gellion #00004 Mr. Waesel #00005 Silmarien Aldalome After I have consolidated the High Harpers, I will be accepting Harpers to the foundation. |
| Ouroboros11-03-03, 03:44 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart #0000000053 TheJester from Winchester #0000000054 King Gromphf Goldstein #0000000055 Nos-4-A2 #0000000056 Noth #0000000057 little black bill #0000000058 BrianMc223 Welcome brother BrianMc223 any stories to tell us? |
| SwordMaster11-03-03, 10:20 AM | Originally posted by SwordMaster [OoC: How are we going to go about this? Does someone want to start game threads on Map of the Planes?] Ouroboros? Anybody? I guess I would if no one else wanted to. |
| JackRipper11-03-03, 11:41 AM | If Ouroboros, our great Foundation leader, gives approval f'r our siege, we can attack, f'r my part. I don't know if such an approval is necessary, though, so I just ask for it. If we can go, and all dwarves are united, we must also contact our elven allies, since they have pledged their allegiance to us. Once we have done that, we should not hesitate anymore, since every second we wait, a drow could learn about our plans, and spoil our surprise attack. So, since ye are our commander, great Oskar, (Swordmaster) I suggest ye lead the attack. But please, tell me the time and place, f'r me Bloodaxe is thirsty and I'm getting bored! I wouldn't want to miss this f'r all the gold in the world! And please, could ye explain to me what and where this Map of the Planes is? Oh, and me was almost f'rgettin' to welcome our new member! Join us, Brianmc223, in our toast AND our battle, and we shall fight side by side! RRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHH!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Captain Longsword11-03-03, 11:56 AM | Ho, Thats what i like t' see, Dwarves comin together an' the talk o' war and ale in't air!!! Hahaha, 'tis a wonderfull time to be a livin'! RRRRRRAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! All this talk o' war makes mi blood boil, nad as for those filthy Drow RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! TO THE FIELDS O' BATTLE MI FRIENDS AND O COURSE MI BRETHEN!!!!! RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Captian Waraxe :fight!: fight!: :fight!: :fight!: TO BATTLE!!!!! |
| Orcy The Green Wonder11-03-03, 12:07 PM | You call that a battlecry dwarf!? HAH! Orcy laughs at that, give them something that will drive them to cowering, HOOAH! |
| Captain Longsword11-03-03, 12:09 PM | Ho, Greetings foul beast. I see that you feel my battle cry is unworthy eh? Then show me yours.....:smirk: |
| aravilar_holistacia11-03-03, 06:06 PM | With Taeleraed's recent enlistment, we have now completed the High Harpers council members. As of 1735 EST, Nov-03-03, the standings are as follows: <*High Harper Council*> 00001 Aravilar Holistacia, Founding High Harper 00002 Taeleraed Saahdel, Founding High Harper of Jest 00003 Gellion, High Harper of Elves, pro tempore 00004 Mr. Waesel, High Harper of Star Elves 00005 Silmarien Aldalome, High Harper of Half-Elves 00006 SwordMaster, High Harper of Gnomes (pending) 00007 Ouroboros, High Harper of Dwarves (pending) 00008 Kevmann, High Harper of Humans (pending) 00009 anglar, High Harper of Drow 00010 Kuje31, High Harper of History <Harpers> 00011 Finglas Leaflock, Harper 00012 Orcy The Green Wonder, Harper 00013 baerdith, Harper 00014 Yokinobu, Harper 00015 KRONOS, Harper 00016 Tai Khan, Harper We will now accept applications for the standard Harpers. Post to Harper Foundation: check my sig. |
| BrianMc22311-03-03, 06:25 PM | *Drains mug of ale* Exelent vintage that. Now, I hear ye talking about a war with the filthy drow. And I say its 'bout time we did something about the filthy beasts. Lets see the bleeden' fools *spits* stand before the might of the Dwarves! :hoppingma Let no quater be given, and none taken, "Let axes sswing, and hammers ring, Thell' fall before our boundless might, and well laugh at how they fight, Were the masters of the dark, Now to the drow we must embark!" :fight!: :mage: :fight!: :mage: :fight!: :fight!: :mage: :fight!: |
| BrianMc22311-04-03, 08:11 PM | This is an outrage! I look at the minatures shown on a site, I see human, orcs, elves, but no DWARVES. Must....smash....SOMETHING!!! <http://www.iconusa3.com/online/Images/D&D/PC_Types/PC-Preview_LG.jpg> |
| BrianMc22311-04-03, 08:11 PM | *was double post* |
| aravilar_holistacia11-04-03, 08:15 PM | Angry enough to post twice, Master Dwarf? Anyway, the High Harpers' Council is complete. here's the final standings, and the Harper Foundation is accepting standard harpers. <*High Harper Council*> 00001 Aravilar Holistacia, Founding High Harper 00002 Taeleraed Saahdel, Founding High Harper of Jest 00003 Gellion, High Harper of Elves, pro tempore 00004 Mr. Waesel, High Harper of Star Elves 00005 Silmarien Aldalome, High Harper of Half-Elves 00006 SwordMaster, High Harper of Gnomes (pending) 00007 Ouroboros, High Harper of Dwarves (pending) 00008 Kevmann, High Harper of Humans (pending) 00009 anglar, High Harper of Drow 00010 Kuje31, High Harper of History <Harpers> 00011 Finglas Leaflock, Harper 00012 Orcy The Green Wonder, Harper 00013 baerdith, Harper 00014 Yokinobu, Harper 00015 KRONOS, Harper 00016 Tai Khan, Harper 00017 kedi, Harper 0018 The Spellcasting Sorcerer, Harper PS: BTW, I am an elf, so I don't share your dwarven anger over no mini-dwarves. |
| BrianMc22311-04-03, 08:53 PM | Aye i'm that bloody mad, who wouldn't be? Who asked you tree kisser? |
| JackRipper11-05-03, 11:15 AM | Auch, Brianmc223, please not insult the elves. Remember we're nay fightin' the elves, they're our allies! And we should respect them, f'r the times when elves and dwarves were on rival terms are long past, if ye ask me. If they like t' kiss trees, we like t' kiss gems. What's the difference? The elves have me respect, and we have a battle t' fight together, any time soon. Oh, and brian, I really liked yer song, or was it a battle cry? Long live our elven brethren! Long live our coming battle! |
| Jamma11-05-03, 03:29 PM | rippers right elves are your allies for now but we will fight thim latter ok !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smirk: |
| BrianMc22311-05-03, 05:37 PM | I'de say it's abit of both Ripper. A' I mus' 'pologise to our elven allies. I was powerfull angry, who would think to shortchance the dwarves? *glares* Connect that pun and....... |
| Ouroboros11-06-03, 03:23 AM | Thanks for keeping it clean guys |
| Ouroboros11-06-03, 03:23 AM | Thanks for keeping it clean guys |
| JackRipper11-07-03, 10:06 AM | Originally posted by Jamma rippers right elves are your allies for now but we will fight thim latter ok !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smirk: I would nay join a battle against the elves. Never! There is no cause nor a reason in such a fight, since the elves have helped us, and there is not much to be gained in such a battle, except f'r some wooden bows and leather armors. And it would filth me Bloodaxe with good blood, while it is only made f'r evil blood. So let go of yer anger against the elves, and point it t'ward the right direction, the drow. We are dwarves, not barbarians! Long live the dwarves! Long live our great Foundation! And by the way, Jamma, what is this Blood axe mercenary company ye speak of, f'r me Bloodaxe read yer sig, and he was very curious... |
| Ukkodin11-10-03, 06:44 PM | I figure it's time for me to put in my 2cp's about a possible war with the drow. I'm with you all the way, as long as it doesn't put our discussions about the dwarven way of life at risk. Relating to that point, I "recently" nominated Orcy for an honorary position in our foundation because of his support for us dwarves. How do people feel about non-dwarves being adopted into dwarven culture if they show themselves to be true friends and allies? |
| aravilar_holistacia11-10-03, 10:12 PM | Originally posted by JackRipper I would nay join a battle against the elves. Never! There is no cause nor a reason in such a fight, since the elves have helped us, and there is not much to be gained in such a battle, except f'r some wooden bows and leather armors. And it would filth me Bloodaxe with good blood, while it is only made f'r evil blood. So let go of yer anger against the elves, and point it t'ward the right direction, the drow. While I still don't condone the war against the drow, it pains me to see that a war vs the elves would even be considered. As a member of the Elf Foundation, I can honestly say that after all we have done for each other (Silverymoon and the Silver Marches in general) it really does pain me to hear of such a thing. The Drow, on the other hand, may or may not be your enemies. The Harpers' official position is that we will not interfere with subterranean politics until it affects the world of Faerun proper (surface). Aravilar Holistacia Founder, Harper Foundation and loyal Elf Foundation Member |
| aravilar_holistacia11-10-03, 10:12 PM | Originally posted by JackRipper I would nay join a battle against the elves. Never! There is no cause nor a reason in such a fight, since the elves have helped us, and there is not much to be gained in such a battle, except f'r some wooden bows and leather armors. And it would filth me Bloodaxe with good blood, while it is only made f'r evil blood. So let go of yer anger against the elves, and point it t'ward the right direction, the drow. While I still don't condone the war against the drow, it pains me to see that a war vs the elves would even be considered. As a member of the Elf Foundation, I can honestly say that after all we have done for each other (Silverymoon and the Silver Marches in general) it really dons pain me to hear of such a thing. The Drow, on the other hand, may or may not be your enemies. The Harpers' official position is that we will not interfere with subterranean politics until it affects the world of Faerun proper (surface). Aravilar Holistacia Founder, Harper Foundation and loyal Elf Foundation Member |
| Ouroboros11-11-03, 04:36 AM | Originally posted by Ukkodin I figure it's time for me to put in my 2cp's about a possible war with the drow. I'm with you all the way, as long as it doesn't put our discussions about the dwarven way of life at risk. Relating to that point, I "recently" nominated Orcy for an honorary position in our foundation because of his support for us dwarves. How do people feel about non-dwarves being adopted into dwarven culture if they show themselves to be true friends and allies? Well moradin wants us to grow and that can only be with new blood (expeting dwarfs from a other clan) and mind (listen to ideas from the outside world) the dwarven race must grow in number and mind so i say aye |
| JackRipper11-11-03, 07:06 AM | Originally posted by aravilar_holistacia The Drow, on the other hand, may or may not be your enemies. The Harpers' official position is that we will not interfere with subterranean politics until it affects the world of Faerun proper (surface). But they did trouble our dwarven lives! They have troubled our dwarven society since the beginning of their foul descension into the dark! And since then they've disturbed our mostly peacefull existence! We must slaughter those black elves once and for all!! If not for peace and goodness, then for revenge against the evil Gaternal the drow, who atacked our Foundation not so long ago! Do not forget their evil spirit, Aravilar, even if ye as a harper wish to stay neutral as much as possible! The drow spit on the elves to! War against the drow is our ONLY solution to have peace once again! JOIN OUR CAUSE!!! For the Foundation! For peace!!!! Long live our underground caverns! Long live our justified war against the drow! |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-12-03, 03:15 PM | Just a quick question for the Dwarves. What weapons do you guys use. I'mnoticed lots of axes and hammers. Any one of you use anything different? Also a question for JackRipper what are the stats for Bloodaxe. It sounds like a mighty powerful weapon. Also I currently play a Halfling rogue and was looking at playing a Dwarf. I like to play unusual characters. I was thinking of a Dwarven fighter who uses a strange weapon, or a Dwarven rogue who uses mace or the Raver (dwarven sorceror). Any comments or ideas on those would be greatly appreciated. P.S Once I create mt dwarf character I would like to join your quest on vanquishing the Drow. |
| Ukkodin11-12-03, 03:23 PM | While I much prefer the use of a double-bladed waraxe, I've been known to also outfit my characters with shortswords, maces, hammers and crossbows. (This, of course, does not include the obligatory knife or dagger every character should own - what better way to open those clamshells otherwise known as goblins :D ) |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-12-03, 07:12 PM | To all inside the tavern it appears as if the door opened by it's own free will. All speech stops and all dwarves look at each other in confusion as they wonder how it happened. One dwarf notices a new comer who was not there moments before and yells" Who be ye" The stranger turns to face everyone and says " My name is Malgrim Vartek. I heard that ye be wanting to fight the Drow? And I figure why not help me fellow dwarves. I'd be glad to lend me mace and skills to your army if ye'll except me. I'm just like a shadow and me mace will surely crush those frail demons. What ye say? May I join ye in this most glorious quest?" Sidenote- Can I join the foundation? |
| anglar11-12-03, 11:51 PM | A lone figure clad in black steps to the doorway of the tavern. Light seems to draw away from him, the shadows cling to him like a cloak. It is near impossible to see his face for the wide brimmed hat on his head. "We've no reason to clash steel with you of this Dwarven House, but we are prepared for it should you desire to continue with your current intentions. My presence here is not meant to instill hostility, but rather to persuade you towards a path a negotiation. I bid you a good evening." He turns, and in doing so, his cloak swooshes widely in the air by the time it has settled, he's gone. |
| Ouroboros11-13-03, 03:40 AM | #0000000001 Elliot Quincy Fanypants III #0000000002 Ouroboros #0000000003 Spellhead #0000000004 Laup Steelhart #0000000005 el kapeetann #0000000006 piwi #0000000007 Anthor Del Niera #0000000008 ozgood the traveller #0000000009 Dolian Graniteroot #0000000010 tj333 #0000000011 Night Watchman #0000000012 Ukkodin #0000000013 Dwarven Smith #0000000014 Corius #0000000015 Ra'vien #0000000016 ranger182 #0000000017 weaponsmith #0000000018 Endur Stonehelm #0000000019 Giant Donkey Kong #0000000020 SwordMaster #0000000021 The Ultimate Dragongod #0000000022 MDMRippley #0000000023 Inflicted #0000000024 Groselhoman #0000000025 JL3712 #0000000026 Gnaipnur #0000000027 Durth Grumbar Ironfist #0000000028 Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin #0000000029 Arhkan the Black #0000000030 KumaKhan #0000000031 High Cleric #0000000032 Niglemaz #0000000033 vash the fighter #0000000034 AegisBane #0000000035 raggerd #0000000036 TracerBullet7 #0000000037 Kazoron Mithrilaxe #0000000038 kgmiller #0000000039 Two-Faced Halfling #0000000040 Gaven #0000000041 Obryn Darkfell #0000000042 El Chipperagwa Jimmy #0000000043 Teark strombringer #0000000044 Argsnoth Forgesmith #0000000045 SmilingTyrant #0000000046 JackRipper #0000000047 HammerFist #0000000048 Freaking_Pirate #0000000049 Dalmor ShadowSoul #0000000050 shortstak37 #0000000051 Captain Longsword #0000000052 Frostbite_Ravenheart #0000000053 TheJester from Winchester #0000000054 King Gromphf Goldstein #0000000055 Nos-4-A2 #0000000056 Noth #0000000057 little black bill #0000000058 BrianMc223 #0000000059 Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) I only aprove war agaist the drow on a other forum do not i repeat do not asault the drow foundation it will back fire on us So brother are you really willingly to attack drow childern?:( And Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) welcome to the foundation of the keepers of the earth the dwarves :smirk: |
| Ouroboros11-13-03, 03:40 AM | There is nothing wrong with using a different weapon magic, bows or even a sap. You are a dwarf by spirit not by force |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-13-03, 06:45 AM | Ye'll have to excuse my behaviour Ouroboros. I was still filled with anger and bloodlust from me previous battle. I had no intentions of attacking the Drow outright like I did. Now would ye be liking a round of ale from me? I assume yes. ey we'll have to exchange stories over a round of ale sometime and as well what sort of armor and such we prefer for battle. I'm quite interested in hearing more tales about Bloodaxe. Well I hear me forge crying for me so I'll se ye later. "Long live the Dwarves and may our forges burn bright tilll the end of time" |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-13-03, 07:19 AM | I've done a little bit of scouting on the Drow and this is what they have to say about war: "Firstly, let the Dwarves come. The journey into the Underdark alone will thin their number enough. By the time they get here the Dark Mythal should be up and the attack will be for naught." I have yet to learn what this "Dark Mythal" is but it sounds magical. I be off for more scouting and killing. |
| JackRipper11-13-03, 11:04 AM | I greet ye, me new dwarven friend, and I like yer spirit! We must first know of our enemies and their dark and evil weaponry! This so-called 'dark mythal' sounds like something that Moradin himself must have cursed and cursed over and over again... And do nay fear to tell the truth 'bout a race far more evil then the demons ye compared them with b'fore... They deserve to know what they are! But out of respect f'r our great leader Ouroboros, I shall not speak of them anymore, f'r now... And this black figure in our beautifull tavern is just another sound of the drow cruelty and their foul intentions! They dare insult us right in our face! We should attack them no... <oh, umm sorry, Ouroboros, I shouldn't say that anymore> But 'tis time f'r taletellin' and a mug o' ale, I heard? Ahh, yes, let us delight in our fellow brethrens exciting adventures... This all reminds me of a time, when I still had me pride, and me home... [The vision goes back and right now you hear the dream sound] It all happened a couple of years ago, when I lived far away from here, where the dwarves had a kingdom under the Iron mountains, a grand place of wealth and prosperity... Till those bloody humans came, and they had a hunger for power and our iron. Those humans alone lacked the power to drive us away from our minerals, so we thought. At that time, I was but a young dwarve, and I still had me clann name... Me full name was Garth Balderk, and I was a member of the privileged clann Balderk. Me father was a cleric of the All-father, me mother was a good mother... And my destiny was to take over me father's job. But another clann, Darbrack, said that his firstborn son should be the next cleric of Moradin instead of me. Both of our clans argued about that for years. It was not untill the bloody humans attacked our kingdom, b'fore the argument stopped, allthough in a lot o' bloodshed. The bloody humans made a pact with the kobolds in the north, and they attacked us together. A pact b'tween humans and kobolds, I tell ya. It just proves the evilness that houses in all human souls! But they attacked me beloved kingdom, and we were at the losing hand. 'Twas in this war that I fought f'r the first time, and I fought with all me hart! Moradin must sure have been asleep that day, or he might have some other purpose for the things that were to pass that same day: The Darbrack firstborn son sneaked upon me parents to slay them both, most foul! I could but stop him just before his blade struck me father, and I killed the murderer! I wanted revenge f'r me clann, and my head boiled with anger! I still feel some hatred coming up when I think 'bout it. I ran to the house of the Darbrack clan, against my parents will in, and I slew everybody of that clann... both of the parents, and three of their young and innocent daughters... Me axe was red with young blood, and I... Uhh... I... was cast out for me most villainous deeds... by me own parents that made me the way I am... I am an outcast f'r Moradin's sake... How can I ever attone f'r me bloody deeds... But I had t' tell all of ye 'bout me past, sooner or later. So now you know 'bout it, ye probably cast me out to, eh? Well, it's all my fault. Bye... me fellow dwarves. Ye were all to good f'r me. I'm sorry... |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-13-03, 12:51 PM | Nay Garth you not be cast out in my eyes. It was a rightful act that most would have choosen to do and if not shave the beards right off'em. Now as to me tale. My clan was attacked well over 40 years now by ogres. They were quite the fierce warriors. They managed to slaughter all but me father and I. We had no were else to go so we traveled to a human city. It was filthy and not a place I'd like to stay at for long.Me father opened a smithy shop and created masterpieces for those who could afford them. We were soon very wealthy but I still hated the ogres and wanted to get them for what they did to my clan. One day I ran into a cloaked figure who I will not name (Moradin bless his soul). For some reason I we got along great and he taught me everything he new about thievery and stealth. He trained for a good 25 years. It got to the point were me and him could get anything we wanted and never get caught so we decided to run off for more dangerous tasks. I left me father a note saying I'd be back soon. We traveled to a city known as Rafford. It was a wealthy city but it wasn't what we were looking for so we continued on. We met up with some of me cloaked figures friends. We traveled far and stole much until we heard about a group of hobgblins who were going to attack the town. We offered our assistance and they gladly excepted our help. I knew we had roughly a month till they hobgoblin's came so I borrowed the local forge and made a few adjustments to it and I set about making me a new weapon. Luckily one of my companions was a wizard because it allowed me to enchant me weapon. I spent day and night forging me weapon. It took nere three weeks to craft but it was well worth it. I had made myself a weapon called Nightmare( Mace of Terror). The day finally came when the hobgoblins attacked and they were not ready for me at all. I snuck up behind their leader and crushed his skull with one swing of me mace. The sound of it was extremely exhilirating. I killed nearly a hundred hobgoblins that day. Ahh it was joyous. The city folk thanked us with much wealth and we left them to repair what was damaged. On our way back to see me father we noticed a camp of ogres. I recgonized them as the ones who slaughterd my clan because the leader still wore the crown of me king. Me blood was boiling with hatred and I was ready for battle at that moment but me companions said to wait for nightfall. We did that and we killed everyone of them. I killed the ogre leader and it filled me with such pleasure. We looted their bodies and continued back to me father. We arrived ther to find me father dead with a dagger sticking out of his back. I knew it was a dwarf from or old rivals due to the insignia on it. I was furious at that. i retrived the dagger and immediately ran for the mountains again where I would find the dwarf who killed me father. We ran for a week with hardly any rest. We reached the entrance to the mountain and me companions said they wouldn't go any further that day until they got rest. I was going to refuse but I relaized I'd need my strength for the fight. When I awoke I told them of my plan to kill the clan leader and any in that family and they refused to join me for this. So I said "suit yourselves cowards". With that they turned away and walked to wherever they were headed next. When I entered the mountain I used everything y fellow companions taught me. I was as quite as a shadow. I found the clan and immediatly looked for the clan leader. I found him in his home with no guards present so I drew the dagger that was used to kill my father and threw it with all my might. It struck home in his chest. I was pleased with that kill. I entered the room ro retrieve my dagger and noticed something shiny sticking out of a chest. I opened it up and it was an enchanted mithral shirt. My eyes gleamed at the prize. I quickly donned the shirt and took off. I noticed I was much quieter and harder to see with it on. With that I took off to search for the other family members. And to this day I'm still looking for the other family members. That be me tale. Whether or not you except a thief and a murderer among you is your choice. |
| Getarnal_the_Drow11-13-03, 05:41 PM | "I warned you I would return Dwarves, Now here this. Any who make war against the noble drow will be cut down." "This is your only warning." |
| anglar11-13-03, 06:07 PM | Originally posted by Getarnal_the_Drow "I warned you I would return Dwarves, Now here this. Any who make war against the noble drow will be cut down." "This is your only warning." Smacks Gerternal across the back of the head. "Matron Mother will have no more of this! Get yourself back to the House and await my return." Watches to be sure Gerternal does leave. "Forgive his and my intrusions, please. He is young and impetuous. It is acts like this and of others that have made it clear to me that there may be a little need to bring our House back into order. I pray your leave and bid you good dining." Anglar leaves. |
| Silmarien Aldalome11-13-03, 06:31 PM | Originally posted by anglar Smacks Gerternal across the back of the head. "Matron Mother will have no more of this! Get yourself back to the House and await my return." Watches to be sure Gerternal does leave. "Forgive his and my intrusions, please. He is young and impetuous. It is acts like this and of others that have made it clear to me that there may be a little need to bring our House back into order. I pray your leave and bid you good dining." Anglar leaves. Matron Mother: News comes to Matron Mother - the provocations from Drow to Dwarf. You suddenly see a Drow face become apoplectic with rage - first scarlet flush - then a whitening to tightly mastered anger. Matron Mother appears before Getarnel - and leans into him - she stands so close to him that her breath falls on his face. Her face is resolute as stone, and except for the narrow pupils, there is no sign of the fury Matron Mother contains. She will break into Fury if she is challenged. She says to Getarnel - in even smooth tones: "You will direct your Hatred to other purposes Getarnel. The Dwarves are too many to be mastered - they are strong and potent - and their Stone radiates with Dwarf Dweomer. Return to your Post - where your services aid the Protection of My House." ---------------------------- G'day Ouroborus - and Dwarves. Hope you've all been well. Take care and see yous around. Your Servant Silmarien |
| nerrollus11-13-03, 09:39 PM | nm |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-13-03, 10:30 PM | After some more scouting I've learned that the elders of Drow houses wish NOT to fight. It seems it is only the young ones who disobey their Matron Mother. I would suggest we hold our tongues before the Wizo's chop them off and forever bane our lovely foundation and gathering spot. For all ye you have a deep hatred for the drow take it out on some goblins or ogres please. I wish not to lose me favorite drinking spot. Till I return may ye forge burn bright and Moradin bless ye soul. |
| Ouroboros11-14-03, 04:14 AM | thatJackRipper and Malgrim Vartek killing childern is never ever a good act and no JackRipper you won't be cast out for this etmiting your crime is one of the best way to cure the scar you have to cary with you for al your live noing that you killed defenceless childeren. Althouth i don't aprove this behavior i am proud of you I and all other (mostly) are there to send you on the staith path the path moradin has chosen for us the way of good. Oskar Lightfoot i know moradin wants us to fight goblins but the way you killed there leader was wrong. Closing a deal with hobgoblins to attack a human city:eek: And the killing your ally from behind:eek: that is not the way of a paladin :D a yes you are a thief what was your aligment when you did this? (Buyed the book of exteded deeds this week :angel: ) So brothers some more evil deeds to confes? |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-14-03, 06:39 AM | Ahh my dear Ouroboros it seems ye've read me story wrong. I did not join the hobgoblins to attack a human city it was quite the opposite, I defended the city. And as to me killing my ally ye be wrong again it was the Dwarven clan leader of the clan who killed me father. When I started in the mountains I was LAwful Good but after me clan and attacked I gave up following orders and helping others. After i met up with me cloaked companion in the human city I became Chaotic Neutral for I did what I wanted when i wanted. I know me deeds be unforgiveable and I can never go back to what I was but I will try to right me deeds and help all others in need. I spent all of yesterday praying to Moradin in an attempt to attone for me misdeeds. He'd like me to journey back to me rival clan of dwarves and openly speak the family of the king and say what me did to their father. One more thing I don't listen to people unless they earn my respect and Ouroboros ye've earned me respect and I shall begone for a few days for my journey of attonement. And JackRipper ye've got me mace and skills anytime ye need them and it don't matter where ye be I'll be there for ye. May your forges burn for all eternity and Moradin bless ye souls. |
| Ukkodin11-14-03, 12:39 PM | After having read Oskar's report, I withdraw any and all support I might have had for a war with the drow. We must remember that this foundation was started to discuss our concepts of what dwarves are, what their way of life is like, how they perceive the different subraces (for those who subscribe to that notion) and how they interact with the other races. On that point, there are certain races that dwarves have a certain animosity for, resulting from decades or centuries of constant predation. While specific individuals from these races may be worthy of a dwarf's trust, any initial contact will be made with a certain level of distrust and/or malice. These races include orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, mind-flayers and trolls. Drow, on the other hand, tend to live too far underground to have any type of regular contact with dwarves; as such, while they may be viewed with suspicion, I do not feel that outright hostility is legitimate except on a case-by-case basis, ie: if an individual Drow or group of Drow has a history of malice toward the Dwarves, then the Dwarves have every right to respond in kind. |
| Getarnal_the_Drow11-14-03, 12:49 PM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Matron Mother: News comes to Matron Mother - the provocations from Drow to Dwarf. You suddenly see a Drow face become apoplectic with rage - first scarlet flush - then a whitening to tightly mastered anger. Matron Mother appears before Getarnel - and leans into him - she stands so close to him that her breath falls on his face. Her face is resolute as stone, and except for the narrow pupils, there is no sign of the fury Matron Mother contains. She will break into Fury if she is challenged. She says to Getarnel - in even smooth tones: "You will direct your Hatred to other purposes Getarnel. The Dwarves are too many to be mastered - they are strong and potent - and their Stone radiates with Dwarf Dweomer. Return to your Post - where your services aid the Protection of My House." Very well Matron mother I shall return to my home, I shall never again trouble the dwarves. "Farewell Dwarves." Focuses in for a few seconds *casts teleport without error* Getarnal vanishes with a small flash of red light. |
| shortstak3711-14-03, 02:03 PM | i am back my brothers after a long time i was helping my clan kill a dragon and we killed that evil beast trying to burn down my hometown |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-16-03, 11:57 AM | Well me brothers I've arrived at my rival clans home. Actually I'm just outside of it and I fear for what is to become of me in there. I figured me better make one last post to ye in case they decide to end me life is I rightfully deserve. I just wanted to thank ye Ouroboros for your wisdom and guidance. Ye've changed me view on me life and if I survive this confrontation with me rivals I'll never use me skills to hurt anyone again, I'll use them for the greater glory of the dwarves and Moradin. And Garth ye've truly been a good friend over the past while and ye not be and outcast in me view, you be a brave and honorable warrior of great strength. If I survive I'd like to travl with you and take on the evil of this world. Well I be off now to face me greatest challenge yet. May the forges of all ye dwarves burn forever and may Moradin bless ye with good fortune. |
| Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin11-16-03, 02:08 PM | I've returned, sword brothers. Me an' me kin were after handing a few orcs their own heads, and we retook me homeland! Praise to Moradin. Then we got hammered off our arses and emptied more barrels of ale than ever before! |
| Ouroboros11-17-03, 06:34 AM | Welcome back my grey skinned brother and no i don't want to try the morg ale you took from the orcs;) |
| Ouroboros11-17-03, 06:47 AM | We know what elfs think about us dwarfs we don't care to mutch about mother nature. True we don't have many druide i want to hear some stories about blundly saying tree huging dwarves:D I know some dwarven druides that keep rustmonster away from dwarven city's or dwarven druides that protect the trees above the moutons (without the trees you get land slides) Wild and Artic dwarves have there share of druides know |
| JackRipper11-17-03, 12:37 PM | Aye, Oskar Lightfoot, ye sure are a brave and kind dwarve. Ye killed all yer greatest foes, and it was f'r the sake of justice! These monsters deserved their fate, all of them, f'r what they did to ye! But do not be afraid, f'r Moradin knows this and agrees with me words, I think. For he is allways correct and shows the greatest of wisdom whenever he speaks justice. So he will guide ye by yer test. I certainly do, and I think it would be appropriate if ye do yer task by yerself and alone, so I feel I cannay help ye. I can only pray f'r ye, and I will do so. I thank ye f'r yer kind words, and also those generous and justified words of our great wise leader Ouroboros, and I think I'll never really f'rgive meself, f'r killing innocent children is the weakest act a dwarve can do. I curse meself over and over again, just like I curse that dark day, in wich me fellow dwarves lost a terrifying battle with the kobolds and humans. Yes, they lost, and they had to retreat to the dark and wild east, following an uncertain destiny. I could nay follow them in their fate, f'r I had my own, I guess. My friend Golmir followed me in my banishment, f'r he dissagreed with the spoken justice. We traveled a while together, traveling to unknown lands, and we made a lot of friends in this time. The life of a traveler was just not mine, nor Golmir's. We separated ways finally. to the west, t'wards human lands, just like ye did. And so did I settle meself in the grim city, and established a small smithy. 'Twas just enough to make a living, and in these days I forged me masterwork, a great and powerfull axe, wich I called Bloodaxe. I was proud of it, but it was but a simple, wellmade axe. Until one of me friends came, a wizard I met during me adventuring days. He seeked me out to forge some kind of ring f'r him, and in return he gave me Bloodaxe life! Since then me and me Bloodaxe have been best friends, and he was me only friend, I guess. That was my life 'till now, and I have devoted it to seek forgiveness, and I thank ye f'r not casting me out of this great foundation. Good luck, Oskar Lightfoot, ye have me blessing and me axe, if ye would so wish, and I thank ye f'r yer mace and yer skills. Wandering and traveling with you would certainly feel like my days with Golmir once again. And these were great days, so I hope ye will come back, so that us three, you, me and Bloodaxe, could smash the heads of many a hobgoblin in the future! About the drow... Well, if we would loose the support of the of the dwarves, I guess we'll have to stop... What a tragedy... They insult us, they have made our dwarven lives hell, or they sure made a good attempt, and we cannay fight back... Were has justice gone these days? I still plea for a war, but only if we could have the Wizo's approval. There must be a way, or not? Long live our great Dwarven Foumdation! Long live all dwarves! |
| Ouroboros11-18-03, 09:31 AM | Elliot Quincy Fanypants III (Foundation Founder) Ouroboros (Leader) Spellhead Laup Steelhart el kapeetann piwi Anthor Del Niera ozgood the traveller Dolian Graniteroot tj333 Night Watchman Ukkodin Dwarven Smith Corius Ra'vien ranger182 weaponsmith Endur Stonehelm Giant Donkey Kong SwordMaster The Ultimate Dragongod MDMRippley Inflicted Groselhoman JL3712 Gnaipnur Durth Grumbar Ironfist Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin Arhkan the Black KumaKhan HighCleric Niglemaz vash the fighter AegisBane raggerd TracerBullet7 Kazoron Mithrilaxe kgmiller Two-Faced Halfling Gaven Obryn Darkfell Chipperagwa Jimmy Teark strombringer Argsnoth Forgesmith SmilingTyrant JackRipper HammerFist Freaking_Pirate Dalmor ShadowSoul shortstak37 Captain Longsword Frostbite_Ravenheart TheJester from Winchester King Gromphf Goldstein Nos-4-A2 Noth little black bill BrianMc223 Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) 59 members Doing to the new foudation rulez we aren't allowed to show numbers the moderators believe that WE think number 1 is more importend then number 20 and that is no true. There is more evrybody is allowed to join (whow that is new ;) ) Did I decline someone membership i don't think so |
| Ouroboros11-18-03, 09:32 AM | double post:embarrass |
| SwordMaster11-18-03, 02:43 PM | That is dumb. Sorry for my bluntness, WizOs, but it is. I do not mind being listed after the founder and others who joined before me. (Coincidentally, I am #20.) Originally posted by Oskar Lightfoot To all inside the tavern it appears as if the door opened by it's own free will. All speech stops and all dwarves look at each other in confusion as they wonder how it happened. One dwarf notices a new comer who was not there moments before and yells" Who be ye" The stranger turns to face everyone and says " My name is Malgrim Vartek. I heard that ye be wanting to fight the Drow? And I figure why not help me fellow dwarves. I'd be glad to lend me mace and skills to your army if ye'll except me. I'm just like a shadow and me mace will surely crush those frail demons. What ye say? May I join ye in this most glorious quest?" Sidenote- Can I join the foundation? Welcome, good to have another mage! |
| Ukkodin11-18-03, 02:56 PM | SwordMaster, Ouroboros is referring to the new Foundation rules posted by the WizOs. Here's the link: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133538 You can find the post about it up at the top of most of the forums (including Races). Regardless of how we feel about the limitations, we should not let it stymie our discussions about our favorite topics. We must always remember that these were started to further our own understanding of those aspects we have come to feel the most comfortable with, be it a dwarf, elf, halfling, wizard, sorceror, orc, bard, half-whatever, human, fighter, ranger, paladin, etc. Just because I primarily post on the Dwarven Foundation doesn't mean I don't read some of the other threads on these boards to get a better handle on some of the other races/classes I occasionally play. Come on, folks. Let's keep those ideas about dwarves coming. |
| SwordMaster11-18-03, 03:12 PM | Actually, I saw the announcement and edited the request for a link out of my post. I already sent WizO_Catoblepas a pm about it. Thanks anyway! :) I'm in the process of starting a thread in the MotP forum since RPing is banned too. |
| Ouroboros11-19-03, 03:58 AM | Well does some one ever played a dwarf druide? |
| Ukkodin11-19-03, 12:21 PM | Have I ever played Dwarven Druids? Not yet, but I may experiment at some point. At the moment, however, my playing days are on hiatus, but I hope to get back soon. |
| SwordMaster11-19-03, 02:12 PM | No, can't say I have. I made a dwarven ranger once. They're called cavers according to the PHB. P.S. I'll tell everybody when the MotP thread is up. :) |
| Nos-4-A211-19-03, 06:38 PM | Cavers eh? That sounds cool. I guess unless the Dwarven Druid is very un-dwarven, like Pikel from RA Salvatore's Cleric Quintet, then they'd spend their time in caves and mountains among subteranean creatures and mushroom forests. They'd probably have a mindset slightly askew to most druids, since the nature they inhabit is so foriegn compared to the landscapes of the surface. |
| SwordMaster11-19-03, 07:53 PM | It says they're called cavers right in that part of the Player's Handbook. |
| zollex511-19-03, 08:52 PM | I've started a Foundation Council on the Metaboard so that all foundations can get together. It'll be easier to get our points accross to the WizO's. Everyone is welcome - there's a link in my sig. Zollex Custodian of the Tomes, Half-Elven Foundation |
| Ukkodin11-21-03, 12:43 PM | OK, let's wake this place up a little bit. Some of the topics raised about dwarves of late (and originally) include: 1) Beards on the ladies, yea or nay? I realize this has generally been answered, but it's worth it to keep it in everybody's mind, in case we change our minds, or new members haven't had a chance to decide. 2) Dwarven Druids. What are they like? Has anybody played one? If so, what was the character like? 3) Posted outside the foundation, but worthy: Dwarves and alcohol: Do dwarves have a higher resistance to getting drunk? How potent are their brews? 4) Dwarven cuisine: Types of food, dishes, drinks (both ale and other). On a related note, is there such a thing as a dwarven vegetarian? My tendency would be to say probably not, but what do other people say? 5) Expansion of Dwarven Society: I realize that dwarves have a tendency to have low-birthrates, but surely they're above just a sustaining population (outside of a constant war zone)? How do dwarves feel about adopting orphans from other races? ie: An elf child is orphaned when his parents are caught in a landslide while the family is moving through the mountains to another elven enclave. (And it could be any race's children.) I realize that the physical maturity rate of some of the races would tend to affect how easily the adoption would be accepted, but it is an interesting question nonetheless. |
| shortstak3711-21-03, 04:31 PM | i would adopt a different race even if it was a elf. i think dwarfs would be able to drink more then other races. i dont know about women dwarfs with beards thats all i have to say me brothers |
| shortstak3711-21-03, 04:31 PM | i would adopt a different race even if it was a elf. i think dwarfs would be able to drink more then other races. i dont know about women dwarfs with beards thats all i have to say me brothers |
| shortstak3711-21-03, 04:31 PM | sorry for triple post comp. running a little slow |
| Oskar Lightfoot11-21-03, 09:55 PM | I'd take any race in and teach them the ways of the forge and of Moradin. Mind ye me prefer a longer lasting race so me could teach them more and give them more practice. A human may be a quick learner but they lack the life span to truly master anything especially the art of a smithy. As to women with beards me say nay. To much hair for me liking besides it would get in the way for certain things such as <?sleeping?>. Anyways we dwarves have a much better tolerance for ale then any other race, not only because of our constitution bonus but also it is what we drink from the monet we're born to the minute we die;therefore, our internal systems are much more resistant to the ale. Me home brew of ale is quite strong but yet it does not damage your insides at all it rather quite good for ye. Anyways me forge be calling for me again so me will talk to ye dwarves again. |
| Ouroboros11-24-03, 03:39 AM | With the adopting wath do you tell a elfen child "Dad why i am so skinny? Uhm son you got it from your mothers side (verry funny if the drarven mother wears a beard:D ) other anwser wel son you got stuck i a hole for a few moths so instead of growing horizontal you grew the other way :D No it is best you tell the child the trued:rolleyes: |
| SwordMaster11-24-03, 11:44 AM | LOL, Ouroboros. :D Originally posted by Ukkodin 1) Beards on the ladies, yea or nay? I realize this has generally been answered, but it's worth it to keep it in everybody's mind, in case we change our minds, or new members haven't had a chance to decide.Were is that great quote? I searched the thread but didn't find it. "It gives you something to hold onto." :devil: :D |
| JackRipper11-25-03, 11:14 AM | <I hope I am allowed to speak in-character, as with all the discussion going on in the metaboards> Me just realised that me have nay had the time t' be answerin' yer questions yet, so I'll answer them right know, if y' don't mind. 1) Dwarves with the beardies are surely the best af all dwarves that there are! Elves like their pointy ears, we like our beards and other facial hair! Nothin' t' be ashamed about, it's rather soft t' be divin' into those curly hairs of a dwarven female! ;) 2) T' tale of the dwarven druid! Ah, tis a long one, f'r sure. I will just leave it to it that I once had the pleasure t' know one o' them. He was me aquaintaince (sp?), Golmir, and when we separated he left f'r the forest, while I went to the human cities. I can tell ye that they are the finest af lads, allthough a bit strange sometimes. They can change int' enormous earth elementals, they understand all the secrets of the earth itself. I was astonished when Golmir just spoke a couple of strange words, and immediately after that the earth was shakin' and tearin' apart! (earthquake spell) 3) Dwarven ale! ahh, tis what we are renowned for, isn't it? We can drink all we want, but we never drop! That's a gift f'r sure! How annoying would it be when you could only take 5 beers before droppin'? I can tell ye: I couldn't live with that! That's why I pity elfs especially, but I guess what you do not know, you do not miss! 4) Besides ale of course, my favorite meal is a great raw steak and some toodstoals (THINK this is the correct translation :embarrass). I also like roots, and other underground vegetables. 5) Difficult question, I think... I s'ppose it depends on their race... (no, I'm no racist, Garth is, perhaps, a little bit...:D ) I would ne'er accept drow, goblins and orcs in my house, even if they're just babies who do not yet have a real concience: the core of their soul is dark, and that's enough f'r me. I would not like non-dwarves in my house either, but I would tolerate them. The exception are gnomes; those good-hearted fellows have earned me respect when I was travelin' through their lands. Elves have my respect to, but I don't think they would fit in with us dwarves. They have their lifestyle, we have ours. |
| Ouroboros12-01-03, 02:11 PM | We talked about dwarven beards, dwarven ears, drinks ect. But I can't remember talking about the dwarven torso Wat is the most ideal boddy of a dwarf the muscler look or the i drink to mutch beer look :D ? I am also aware that most of the dwarven females aren't drawn broad like male dwarves personly i dislike skinny dwarven ladies i don't get the idea i am looking at a dwarf then. What do you think |
| Rose Madder12-02-03, 11:27 AM | (sigh). Sign me up, then. No race comes close to dwarves. No bearded lady dwarves for me. I just can't carry my roleplaying that far... dwarven torso: both muscular *and* beery-- muscles at the top end, wiggly in the middle, with a plushy butt. |
| Oskar Lightfoot12-02-03, 04:28 PM | This may be a little off from the current discussion but what do me fellow dwarves think of the classes of Monk and Wizrd for Dwarves? |
| Ukkodin12-02-03, 04:34 PM | Dwarven Torsos: I feel that most Dwarven men should be as square and stout as the blocks that go into their construction. If they look like a beer barrel, I'd think that the Dwarf is either a baker or a brewer who's been sampling a bit too much of his/her wares. The ladies, I feel, would look like female variations of their men (not unlike the male/female differences in humans). An additional thought: The clothing would reflect their lives and values; ie, durable, and stout. I would imagine that Dwarves would have developed steel-toe boots (or equivalent) for their heavier endeavors, such as mining and construction. I could imagine Red Dragon scales/skin being very desirable for the smiths' aprons and gloves. |
| LizardRider12-02-03, 06:37 PM | May I join in thy chat o wise dwarves of the world? |
| Ouroboros12-03-03, 02:05 PM | of course lizardrider but untill the moderators say it is save to roleplay tne down a bid ;) Monks and wizards are more part of the comunity then they know Moradin has a son that is a mage |
| SwordMaster12-03-03, 03:39 PM | Originally posted by LizardRider May I join in thy chat o wise dwarves of the world? Of course you can. Chat on! :) The whole point of the new foundation rules was to eliminate posts like this. |
| Ukkodin12-05-03, 06:18 PM | Sometimes silence is golden - ie, I've had a chance to think about dwarves a little bit. Hair: For the most part, I see dwarves as wearing their hair at about shoulder-length, braiding it as befits the occasion or for neatness. Their beards would mostly be chest length, again braiding it appropriately. If either is shorter than standard, then I would guess it to be an accident (at the forge or elsewhere), unless they are part of an order (religious, primarily) that requires the change in style. Jewelry: Pretty much unisex, though different types would likely be worn by the different sexes. Furthermore, I could see the designs being worn reflecting the dwarf's position in their clan/guild. Any thoughts on these? Or anything else about dwarven society/culture (Guilds, clans, mining, smithing, etc.)? |
| Taal12-08-03, 05:28 PM | Aye, you longbeards got a spare stool at this here bar for a young'un eager to hear the tales of his elders? If so, Taal is the name, Barbarism the fame. Been Dungeons and Dragonsing for 4 days now.... yeah. My thoughts : On hair : My Dwarf as I imagine him, wears his hairs in a sort of ponytail to keep it out of his face in fights and forging and so on. The beard is also worn in a large ponytail fashion, just because I like that look. Jewelry : Pretty simple in my opinion, only a small number of them, and virtually all depicting their clan or god. Cant see them wearing too much fancy stuff, where's the use? |
| Ukkodin12-08-03, 05:43 PM | Taal, there is always space for those willing to contribute to the discussions we have raised regarding dwarves. I happen to agree with you that their jewelry would tend to be unflashy, somewhat (but not wholly) utilitarian in appearance and reflective of their clan/guild and, perhaps, station; ie, a king/clan leader would always wear something indicative of their position, such as a ring, pendant or other small object (crowns can get cumbersome for monarchs). |
| Taal12-08-03, 05:56 PM | Thanks Ukkodin, as to your point on crowns : I'd imagine that a Dwarven King wouldn't really have a crown but rather a ceremonial helmet instead of their battle helmet. I cant really envision a Dwarf king with nothing on his head... And Dwarfs are, at least to me, a race that would go through vast personal torment and irritation just to uphold tradition (like walking with a 30 stone crown on your head the entire day long). I'd imagine they'd also have a pennant or deffinately a ring which has been passed down for generations and carries their "logo" but no helm just feels wrong.No offence intended, just my views. |
| SwordMaster12-10-03, 04:12 PM | To answer a few of the questions asked that I have an opinion about: I do not think dwarven women should have beards. Dwarves definately have a commendable alcohol tolerance. The flavor text mentions their capacity for ale. |
| drachentoeter12-10-03, 05:51 PM | Not liking beards on the ladys is a very human emotion, I doubt that dwarfes would have the same outlook on female beauty. To them it would be the most natural thing in the world. Other races would probably have a hard time telling the females from the males because of that, while it would be quite obvious for any dwarf. Here I believe is where roleplaying comes into play, the human player accepting different racial beauty standards, even though he doesn't share them. |
| Lady_Firehawk12-12-03, 09:29 PM | 'Ello! Another happy Dwarf over here! :D New to the boards, new to D&D, but having fun! Hmmm... the Dwarf woman in the PHB didn't seem to have a beard, so that's what I went with... and even if they did, Cetrinh grew up among humans in a monastery dedicated to Pelor! I don't really imagine her with a beard... Ale, though! Never come between Cetrinh and her ale! She carries a mini-keg of it with her, plus I'm gonna have brewer as her profession! :D (Hmmmm... now if she could figure out how to turn a beer into a healing potion... millions of Dwarves would rejoice! :D) She has a giant recipe book devoted entirely to beer! I don't know too many other Dwarves who'd play with an alchemy set just for fun, though... and keep the horrible-smelling results! ;) |
| Thayde Rythylaynne12-14-03, 10:05 AM | To: Faerun weapons’ masters In the dark time ahead that we will face together as good peoples, it is the warriors, knights, and weapons masters that will be our front line against the forces of evil. Their blades, staves, and arrows will be meaningless without, valor, bravery, and good moral judgment. In the light of this I am creating a martial school in the backyard of Thay to fight the evils of Faerun. I am also calling on representatives of all of the good deities of Faerun who specialize in combat, tactics, martial prowess, self-perfection, honor, defense, war, and combat knowledge to come and represent the best qualities of your faith, and have a voice in how this school will conduct its defense of, and offense for the good peoples of Faerun. I am calling on Dwarven, Elven, Gnomish, Halfling, and Human representatives to come together for a singular purpose, with similar abilities, and without racial prejudice. This school will not turn away a good hearted individual on the basis of race, be he or her, human, drow, half-orc, or any other. To me purity of heart and deed are more important than historical racial prejudices. Disputes between represented faiths will not be tolerated. If you cannot abide by these simple rules, please send another of your faith. This is your opportunity to show to the rest of your faith and your deity, why you have chosen your life’s path, and also to exemplify a follower of your chosen deity. There will be thirteen represented faiths. The list includes: Clangeddin Silverbeard, Haela Brightaxe, Corellon Larethian, Eilistraee, Gaerdal Ironhand, Avoreen, Anhur, Helm, Lathander, Oghma, The Red Knight, Tempus, and Tyr. Our school is in need of instructors who want and opportunity to affect life outside of their normal arena. We are looking for warriors, paladins, clerics, monks, and rangers, whom have chosen a specific fighting style and mastered it. You may come yourself or send a representative. Your sect is the first of your faith to receive such a letter from me. Should you decline I will be sending letters to other sects of your faith to give them this opportunity. My intent is to have the best. If you know of someone that you think will be interested in this opportunity, please forward this letter to him or her. Our training grounds are being built in Escalant on the Wizard’s Reach, in the southern portion of the Aglarond peninsula, on the northeast shore of the Sea of Falling Stars. The earliest representatives to answer this call will be involved with the planning, and strategic, and tactical build-out of our school. There is only room enough for one representative per faith. May you find this letter with a good heart, and open eyes. Swift Journey, Thayde Rythylaynne |
| Drektaxik12-15-03, 08:29 AM | I search a subrace of dwarf with a bonus in strenght |
| fiendish_servant12-16-03, 03:08 AM | Does this foundation accept dwarven barbarians? |
| Ukkodin12-16-03, 12:50 PM | All types of dwarves are accepted, as long as we keep the foundation on topic in regards to the main topic: Dwarves. On that point, I was wondering over breakfast this morning: What types of beverages do dwarves drink besides their ales? What about cordials or other liquers? I would imagine the heartier red wines would be widely appreciated, as well as ice wines, which could be produced more easily at the altitudes most dwarves would grow their vines. If they consume juices, which ones would they drink? I doubt oranges would be available, unless the stronghold trades with a group that imports/grows them. |
| Ouroboros12-16-03, 01:21 PM | Originally posted by Drektaxik I search a subrace of dwarf with a bonus in strenght artic dwarfs (races of ferun) |
| Captain Longsword12-17-03, 12:17 PM | Ho, I feel that ale is a hugely large part of our diet. We may, possibly not even drink anything other than it apart from water of course! Maybe an alcoholic substance of juice, thinck in nature and taste and fragrance for a juice equivilant? Captain Longsword |
| Captain Longsword12-17-03, 12:17 PM | Ho, I feel that ale is a hugely large part of our diet. We may, possibly not even drink anything other than it apart from water of course! Maybe an alcoholic substance of juice, thinck in nature and taste and fragrance for a juice equivilant? Captain Longsword |
| Captain Longsword12-17-03, 12:17 PM | Ho, I feel that ale is a hugely large part of our diet. We may, possibly not even drink anything other than it apart from water of course! Maybe an alcoholic substance of juice, thinck in nature and taste and fragrance for a juice equivilant? Captain Longsword |
| JackRipper12-18-03, 02:28 PM | :eek: Other kinds of liquor? Kinds of liquor? I think besides ale you've got strong ale and watery ale for the lads b'fore their fifth year. So there's ale, ale and ale. seriously though, I do not think dwarves would drink a lot of different kinds of liquor, because all they need is ale. |
| Ukkodin12-19-03, 07:02 PM | I just remembered: Sometime back, someone (I think Ouroboros, but maybe someone else) posted suggested the idea of a "Jade Dwarf." Have you completed the design and played it yet? Just a question from a foundation member with a bit of a memory. |
| Captain Longsword12-20-03, 06:09 AM | Ho, Very true Jack Ripper!! Capn' Longsword :fight!: |
| Captain Longsword12-20-03, 06:09 AM | Ho, Very true Jack Ripper!! Capn' Longsword :fight!: |
| Ouroboros12-20-03, 09:06 AM | Originally posted by Ukkodin I just remembered: Sometime back, someone (I think Ouroboros, but maybe someone else) posted suggested the idea of a "Jade Dwarf." Have you completed the design and played it yet? Just a question from a foundation member with a bit of a memory. I didn't play tested it i have a hard inof time to recruit players let along testing a (diverent subrace in action) but i made 3 other mayan races so they will be outdeeped:) |
| Ukkodin12-23-03, 03:47 PM | No other liquors? I can imagine dwarves developing a couple of decent variants on scotch that only a couple of other races could handle (knock you off your feet, so to speak). Where does mutton rank in the dwarven diet? How about beef, lizard, goat, chicken, assorted other birds? I might see dwarves consuming wild boars, but not actually consuming the common, garden-variety pigs like humans grow. Any other thoughts? Crops: Root vegetables, like potatoes, carrots, turnips, etc. Mushrooms of assorted types (Truffles, I'd imagine, would be a common staple for dwarves) Grapes (in small quantities, to supplement their ales) Barley |
| Salvatoria12-27-03, 08:12 PM | Anyone give me an idea the best way to set up a cleric for duerger? |
| Ouroboros12-28-03, 05:52 AM | uhm don't tolorate lazyness? for what i gathered in deugar lore there isn't to mutch diference between a slave and a free deugar clerics are the one that punish does who don't work hart. |
| HighCleric12-28-03, 06:49 PM | I bid my fellow dwarven lovers hello and ask Ouroboros to change my name from "High Cleric" to "HighCleric" on the list. Best dwarven hero I played was, o' course, a Dwarven Fighter/Cleric of Moradin. Hammer and Shield, very heavy armor, great Constitution and Wisdom, good Strength. Unstoppable. :fight!: HC |
| Ouroboros12-29-03, 02:28 PM | Done respectful one:) |
| Ouroboros01-02-04, 02:32 PM | I have been thinking lately how does a dwarven woman dress. Do they wear dresses not likely i think and dwarves are not ashamed like humans are to show some legs;) |
| Ukkodin01-02-04, 03:07 PM | I would imagine that most dwarven women would not wear dresses, especially if they were involved in mining, cave exploration, or other underground exploits, where having the legs individually wrapped would be more beneficial and potentially less restrictive. However, I can see how there might be a greater occurrence of skirts, dresses and similar garb in the main settlement areas. |
| Ukkodin01-06-04, 02:07 PM | I was wondering if other members of the Dwarven Foundation have come across the following thread about Dwarves and their use of Axes: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157813 If you haven't voiced your opinion (even if you have and would like to clarify/expand your opinion), what are your thoughts on the subject? How about other weapons? What is their military strategy like? I imagine dwarven pikelines and shieldwalls would be fearsome things to encounter. A comment was made in the course of that thread about the material used in the forges. I feel that dwarves would use coal to power their forges; after all, there is a known connection between diamonds and coal. Regardless, I presume dwarves would mine coal for use in forging their weapons, armor, tools and other materials used in day-to-day dwarven life. (In the real world, humans have preferred the use of coal over wood for forges, so why wouldn't dwarves, who have a closer affinity for mining, etc.?) Feelings or impressions? |
| Torvan Stoneshield01-08-04, 12:50 PM | Most O' us Dwarves use coal. LET THE DAMN ELVES HAVE THEIR TREES TA HUG! If we need fire fer th' forge an' there ain't no coal...goblin bodies'll due. Plenty O' them ta use an' th' elves'll HELP us collect 'em if asked ta do so. Goblins give more of a fight (though not much more) than a tree that can't fight back, so we get a little fun in while gatherin' the "firewood". The finest hours of Dwarvenkind come in the thrusts and feints of war. |
| Torvan Stoneshield01-08-04, 12:50 PM | Most O' us Dwarves use coal. LET THE DAMN ELVES HAVE THEIR TREES TA HUG! If we need fire fer th' forge an' there ain't no coal...goblin bodies'll due. Plenty O' them ta use an' th' elves'll HELP us collect 'em if asked ta do so. Goblins give more of a fight (though not much more) than a tree that can't fight back, so we get a little fun in while gatherin' the "firewood". The finest hours of Dwarvenkind come in the thrusts and feints of war. |
| Vrain Runeseeker01-08-04, 07:32 PM | I'd like to join this foundation, as it is the only haven I know of for us dwarves... |
| Arakano01-09-04, 06:14 AM | Well, just a little reference to the historical realities: In the middle ages, the humans did nearly ALWAYS drink bear. You couldn´t trust water in these times ;) , and so even children drank (watery) ale. So, why should the noble DWARVES need any other drink? Except, of course, stronger stuff like brandy. :D |
| Ukkodin01-12-04, 02:00 PM | Welcome, Vrain Runeseeker. What are your thoughts about what's been discussed lately? Or anything we've missed to date? I've been wondering: What sorts of chants do dwarves use in their assorted fields of work? Or do they sing/chant something else/nothing? |
| Vrain Runeseeker01-13-04, 09:03 PM | Well, first of all I'd have to say that some dwarven women definitely wear dresses, but I picture them as more robe-like myself...but I also picture some as wearing normal pants and blouses...it could go either way. And I definitley picture dwarves chanting when marching to war...though perhaps not when fighting...and I think that some smithies surely use rythmic working songs to keep the blows and pumping of the bellows steady and on beat. |
| Ouroboros01-17-04, 09:28 AM | Does any one had a dwarven race modiefed in his campain? In my campain world deep dwarves dress like greek and mixs diferent ore so that there methal is more lasting then that of there other brothers And my derro are medium sized if you have some human blood in tour fines you can't be small |
| DainIronfist01-21-04, 03:34 AM | So where do i sign up? Count me in as a member of the noble dwarven foundation. Upholder of all the respectable ways of the dwarfs: Chopping things with axes, hitting things with hammers, drinking copious amounts of alcohol, and clanking around in a metric ton of metal. Here Here to the Dwarves and their awe-inspiring rippedocity. |
| FC_Shredder01-25-04, 05:35 PM | Hey can I join this foundation? I have been playing my sturdy Cleric of Haela Brightaxe for a couple years now and I am glad that I have finally found a group of fellow dwarves! The group I just stopped playing with was nothing more that a bunch of tree-huggin' pointy ears! |
| Krablauch01-28-04, 04:16 PM | On the topic of drinks, mead? If I am not mistaken, they make mead alot. Not sure if it is the exact same as ale though. |
| weaponsmith01-28-04, 04:23 PM | Mead is made from honey, Ale from grains. Big differance in taste and time to make. Mead is like a wine. Ale (depending what kind) has a (hops) taste to it. I homebrew my own beer so i know a little about this. :) |
| Krablauch01-29-04, 04:01 PM | Why thank you, I had no idea. They do still, drink it though. I know my dwarven fighter, of which I have derived my name from. Krablauch Stoncleaver, drinks alot of mead and ale. An example, we were in the middle of a fair going on and Dungath, a half-orc barbarian and I were drinking, when wererats attacked, I, being the dwarf that I am, decided it best not to waste good ale, finished the drink and then killed the scum. I would like to join, and fight for my brethren. |
| Granite Stonefist01-29-04, 11:14 PM | Hail brave dwarves, I, Granite Stonefist, Pit Champion of the Krondish, lend my fists to the valiant service of the Dwarven Foundation, the few skills i may add be that of the fist, an axe be an admirable weapon, but i prefer the contact of my knuckles on the flesh of my opponent, and the smell of his fear when he realizes that his pretty sword be of no good. (metagame - fighter 12, reaping mauler 4) I again offer my services. Hail mighty dwarves, may the axes of stone fall hard upon the hounds of the hells. |
| Ukkodin01-30-04, 12:44 PM | Welcome to all those who wish to join the foundation. Granite's post brings forth a question: What are the types of unarmed combat dwarves like to practice/engage in? I would imagine variants on boxing and wrestling are practiced, but what about other forms? And how would they go about practicing them? |
| kedi01-30-04, 06:14 PM | Welcome. I’m here to tell you all that the all races foundation is now opened. Wish to see you soon there. <<All Races Foundation>> (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173715) :D The bard has sung! |
| Ukkodin02-04-04, 04:00 PM | An additional thought: What is the average size of a dwarven stronghold? I feel that it would be 6-8,000 individuals, usually. Any thoughts? |
| DwarfMaster3002-04-04, 05:29 PM | Can I join I have a couple of Azer Paladins, Too many Dwarven Fighters |
| Ukkodin02-13-04, 03:35 PM | Where is everybody? Maybe they're all at the forges... Welcome DwarfMaster30. Of course you can join. Maybe with some new blood in here, we can cook up a few topics to cover (either old ones in greater detail or new ones to flesh out). |
| JackRipper02-13-04, 03:51 PM | I have watched this foundation thread from time to time since the new foundation rules, and I think there lies the explanation for your question, Ukkodin: that's why they're all at the forges... Roleplaying has been forbidden, and, honoustly, I believe that was the major source of activity in this foundation. I don't know about other foundations however... I am not trying to get people to violate the Code of Conduct; I am merely trying to point out my thought on why so many people haven't spoken since... |
| Captain Longsword02-14-04, 04:51 AM | Ho, Pardon my not bieng on the boards much, school life has caught up with me, as well as a few other projects that i'm working on. I haven't read the rules yet, but whats all thia about roleplaying bieng banned? And also, i haven't been recieving emails that let me know when someone has posted. Normally, when i get one of those, i reply straight away, but as i say, i haven't been recieving any. A few thoughts though. Unarmed combat... i would agree on the wrestling and bowing style fighting... other wise i seem to have gone blank.. My appologies for not haveing posted, i will get onto the boards as much as i can from now on! Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| Ukkodin02-19-04, 03:37 PM | What are some of the names that we have given our dwarves? Some of the names I've given my characters include: Galen Graydon Gimli (derivative/stolen, I know, but it seemed appropriate for the character) Barin What about the rest of you? |
| The Cleric02-19-04, 05:51 PM | Hello Brothers, Yesterday, my cleric of Clangeddin has been kill by a high level troll fighter, two critical in two attacks in the same round! its a rude epreuve for me, because I was playing him for 3years now! So I decide after some days of reflection to create a dwarf paladin, but I had some question for you people of steel, how can we play a dwarf with 18 in charisma... and does the paladin had to support the cause of humanity even if its a elf or a human in danger... can he be a bit racism please tell me how you see it, personnaly I find an exemple in the first or second trilogy of dragonlance, he was name kharas or something like this and is warhammer was forge by Reorx! thanks The Cleric, now Paladin P.S. the name my Cleric of Clangeddin's Axe was Aigalis |
| CaptMeathead02-20-04, 03:37 AM | I would like to join this fine foundation! Stilll browsing the boards... Playing my first dwarven character in a new adventure with my gaming buddies, still adjusting and settling into my character. A mountain dwarf. Fighter/Barbarian. Previously worked as mercenary-for-hire on trade route between various cities/villages and friendly trading dwarven communities.(Still in the works!) Could use a little help to make more interesting though. Any takers? |
| CaptMeathead02-20-04, 04:09 AM | Dwarven Butcher here at yer service. I likes to BBQ, skewer, & fillet my employers enemies. But, only for a price... My name's CaptMeathead, but friend's and Dwarves may call me Oskar. Anyone with any referance links or background info regarding mountain dwarves would be greatly appreciated! I'll cook you a juicy lamb ka-bob! Plenty O-Spice!! |
| CaptMeathead02-20-04, 04:17 AM | Originally posted by Getarnal_the_Drow "I warned you I would return Dwarves, Now here this. Any who make war against the noble drow will be cut down." "This is your only warning." Listen pointy ears, we don't need your meanderin' threats here, see? Get a drink, pull up a lounge chair, and get some sun on that horrible complexion of yers, and you just might learn somethin'! Either that, or we can all send ya back from whence you came forsaken one....:smirk: |
| Captain Longsword02-20-04, 04:23 AM | Ho, Greetings!! It's nice 't see another Capn in the ranks. I admire your courage and headstrongness, but WOAH there my friend. All in good time will our vengance come... ale and planning is the only way you will win a battle against the tainted ones. Skill at arms might 'elp a bit... but ale at most!! Welcome all those new recruits!!!!! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TO ALL YOU BLACK SKINNED DEVILS OUT THERE!!! MY AXE THIRSTS, AND SO DOES MEATHEADS SKEWER COLLECTION!!! Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| CaptMeathead02-20-04, 04:33 AM | Thank ye fellow Capt! But, uh, my tools of choice begin with a fine ax. Once you properly cleaned the meat, then must ye skewer for the flame. Thanks for the wonderful welcome! I look forward to being on the boards again soon with tales following my adventure this Friday eve! |
| Captain Longsword02-20-04, 04:35 AM | Ho, And we shall eagerly await your return!! Captian Waraxe :fight!: |
| Ukkodin02-20-04, 12:42 PM | Be mighty careful, my fellow foundation members, lest we call down upon ourselves the wrath of those who watch over us. (Remember, the WizOs are always watching.) CaptMeathead: Mountain Dwarves are well known for their mighty fortresses, their sturdy peronalities, their loyalty (a stronger friend you will never have, if you can win their trust). Strong, cold/distant until trust is earned, well built items. I don't know for sure, but I'm of the opinion that Mountain Dwarves do herd goats, sheep and similarly hearty creatures (sturdy animals, capable of handling the high mountain climates where they would be taken for grazing). They are great miners, wonderful forgers. Anyone got any links or additional thoughts for the newest member of our great foundation? |
| Ukkodin02-24-04, 09:08 PM | Wow! I didn't mean to put the kibosh on any discussions with my last post. :( However, since "they" decided to clamp down on heavy roleplaying within the foundations, it's important to remember we're here to discuss the race (society, crafts, appearance, etc.). So, what are the marriage ceremonies like, assuming that dwarves have anything resembling what we call marriage? |
| CaptMeathead02-25-04, 01:15 AM | Well... Just thought I'd throw out an excerpt or snipet from my character's (Oskar Balderk's) last gaming night this past Friday evening. Oskar is an 8th level Fighter / 3rd level barbarian. This my first time posting an episode so I'll do my best. Here goes.... We had left off in a tomb exit, setting up camp to rest from our most recent run in with the unnatural nasties, 9 shades! Both the Elf maiden, Saraphina and dwarven fighter, Oskar Balderk decide to investigate some smoke seen from the cave exit past a distant wood. Probably a good 4 hr ride once we have scaled down the mountain side.(Another 2 hr climb). Saraphina polymorphs into a giant mountain goat as Oskar climbs aboard for the free ride. Halfway down, both fail their spot checks and are also surprised! Oskar subsequentially fails his ride check and falls off the Goat and finds himself in the middle of 3 Yeti's!!! Combat ensues, with Oskar taking out all three of the Yetis himself. The elf mearly changed form into a silver dragon, thus scaring away the last Yeti and allowing Oskar to take a nice shot of opportunity before his escape! Needless to say, the Elf startled poor Oskar upon having changed herslef into a silver dragon! Upon returning to "Goat form", Oskar merely grumbles about Elven magic tricks and sorcery and mounts up to continue on... Upon reaching the edge of the wood, they both come to find a township contained within a Mock and Bailey. Saraphina ends her spell, so as to not startle the guards and towns people, etc. We do not know who they might respond to magic! A cold welcome begins, then eventually leads to entering the gates. The head cheese informs Oskar that dwarves are welcomed, as they have not been seen in this particualr remote setting in quite sometime. After being fondly refered to as "one of The Forge Makers". Oskar and Saraphina come to find that this is a heavilly armed place that is highly built upon weapon and armor smithing. Rrequests to bless their forges fall on deaf ears as Oskar has no intention of blessing a human forge. A job left to priests! Many moons have the Yeti, wolves, and occassional giant been seen harassing these people and their land for food. *Did I forget to mention this is a winter setting? Sorry. It is.* To make a long story short, we retrieve the rest of the party left behind in the cave a return in the evening for some welcomed lore regarding the tomb, prompting us to want to return to the unexplored depths, as we had only touched upon half of it! The following morning, Oskar's party is awoken by boulders flying through the air and crashing into houses! Upon exiting, 3 Snow/Ice Giants are seen on the other side of the town's wooden walls, hurling boulders and trees!!! Needless to say, Oskar and the other dwarf in the party (Darien), were shouting at the guards to "open the blasted gates!!!" Once the gates were finally opened, the two dwarves rushed into battle, screaming curses and insults as they mightily swung their axes into their giant foes' flesh... The Elf, Saraphina lazily casts some strange electical charge over 2 of them, causing a fairly descent flame to spring forth and burn these 2, and through the surrounding snow. Oskar- "More elven sorcery, hurmmph.....and please take yer time joining us!" Darien - "Draw a sword would you!!!" The human female monk & Saraphina join the meelee only in time to watch Oskar Balderk topple one giant(Missing everyone fortunately!), and in the next round, toppling the 2nd! *Note: I couldn't believe this! After the Yeti incident, I was beside myself with joy with this triumph!* After an often overlooked "morale check", the 3rd giant decided he best git while the gittin' was good! We returned to the shambles of a town, made preparations to leave and headed toward the mountainside entrance to further investigate the tomb! End session. ----------------------- This was one of those instances where there was a lot of good roleplaying going on, I didn't want to bore you with the details of our plot, and etc. Oskar Balderk has turned out to be one of the most diesel characters I have had the opportunity to play. I have the feeling that things are really going to heat up next time for us! As this seemed a little to easy for my taste and think the DM shall have some really nasty stuff waiting for us in the tomb. We shall see. Anyhoo, just wanted to share! See you one the boards my fellow dwarves!!! PS - Ukkodin thanks for the info regarding mountain dwarves, found it helpful. IF anyone has any reference links regarding mountain dwarves for inspirational reading, please post 'em, thanks! _______________ |
| Captain Longsword02-25-04, 10:10 AM | Ho, Wow, quite an active session then eh Capn'? Ukkodin, regarding Dwarven marriage ceremonies, have any of you played the game Final Fantasy VIIII? I forget the name of the place, but on disk 2, there is an odd place up in the mountains. Inside, there is a place, again i forget what it is called, where the inhabitants of the place get married. It's kind of like a boat chained over water... anywhoo, i thought that maybe it would be a place like that, wich the Dwarves have to travel to in order to be wed. Any other thoughts? Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| CaptMeathead02-28-04, 11:05 AM | Does no one refer to this board much these days? Like it has been asked before, "is everyone at the forges? Just looking for some good reference material concerning dwarves on the web for roleplaying. If anyone has any liks please post them! Thank you and I look forward to seeing more of my dwarven brother's (and prehaps sisters?)on here soon! |
| CaptMeathead02-28-04, 11:17 AM | Could it be that this is now a dead thread? Please....anyone.....? |
| Captain Longsword02-28-04, 11:50 AM | Ho Capn, I regret to say that this thread seems to be dying... it used to be a hub-ub of Dwarves of all races and climes, but now... tumble weed blows.. I would also like to know about any online Dwarf referance recourses... oh, and i wonder (sorry, i forget your name), the member that has the Dwarf Pit Fighter char, how did you go about making him?? Many thanks, Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| Ouroboros02-28-04, 11:56 AM | OK i have a question again did the lord of the rings movie made dwarfs more seen in your gaming group or less. Dwarfs are quet popular now thanks to Gimli:cool: |
| Captain Longsword02-28-04, 12:00 PM | Ho, Well, in my group, everyone wants to be a Wood Elf prince and now wants to marry Orlando Bloom. Damned Elves, i can't see why anyone wouldn't want to marry Gimli...:smirk: Captain Waraxe |
| CaptMeathead02-28-04, 12:02 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros OK i have a question again did the lord of the rings movie made dwarfs more seen in your gaming group or less. Dwarfs are quet popular now thanks to Gimli:cool: Absolutely not. We always enjoyed them. |
| CaptMeathead02-28-04, 12:23 PM | It is a shame that this wonderful thread should be dying...I had hoped to speak with more people concerning other questions I had about dwarves.... |
| Captain Longsword02-28-04, 12:33 PM | Ho, Shoot Captain! Those that still meander around here will try to awnser your questions, but if we fail, perhaps a new foundation is in order? Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| CaptMeathead02-28-04, 12:55 PM | Agreed! PM Me should you decide to start one please! Talk to you later. |
| Captain Longsword02-28-04, 01:06 PM | Ho, Indeed you shall Captain!! Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| shortstak3702-28-04, 01:54 PM | in my group everyone was a dwarf a fighter,wizard,and a cleric are fighter died and got reincarnated as a human. the cleric thats me got killed by worgs the wizard couldnt heal me so i died |
| Captain Longsword02-29-04, 05:58 AM | Hehehe, thats a shame shortstak37! Something similar happend to me once, but i'd rather not talk about it.... :( Captain Waraxe |
| CaptMeathead02-29-04, 02:59 PM | What's yer preference for character anyhow? Also can anyone explain to me what kind of dynamic would/should exist in a relationship (platonic) between 2 said dwarves. Right now in the game I am playing my character(Mountain dwarf, OSKAR) has joined a party with a hill dwarf. Any info would be appreciated. |
| Captain Longsword03-01-04, 10:18 AM | Ho, AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH HHH!!!! Captain Waraxe |
| Ukkodin03-01-04, 12:37 PM | Perhaps life has gotten in the way of people's ability to post here. As for the question regarding LOTR and dwarves, I've always made sure there was at least one dwarf in the campaigns I joined (though, admittedly, I haven't played in that many groups over last 3-4yrs). |
| Captain Longsword03-01-04, 12:41 PM | Ho, Perhaps.. the little things such as life seem to pass me by when i'm on this board ;) . It's a shame, i seem to have been playing far less D&D than i did when i was a total novice.... perhaps i should relocate, my mums been dying to move for ages!! Yours, Captain Waraxe |
| Ukkodin03-03-04, 12:38 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin I don't know if this will help, but I came across a passage that reflects how I try to roleplay my own dwarf's personality. It is from the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, a Roman Emperor from the 2nd century CE/AD (I actually posted this quote in this thread on the old boards): "Never value the advantages derived from anything involving breach of faith, loss of self-respect, hatred, suspicion, or execration of others, insincerity, or the desire for something which has to be veiled and curtained." Hope this helps. However, do not let your dwarf become so set in his ways that he becomes intractable and disliked. After all, per Marcus Aurelius again: "To change your mind and defer to correction is not to sacrifice your independence; for such an act is your own, in pursuance of your own impulse, your own judgement, and your own thinking." This was from page 4; Do people have any thoughts? To resurrect earlier discussions as well: 1) (Per Ouroboros) How bald are Grey Dwarves? 2) What are the bathing practices of Dwarves? Actual baths/showers? Or do they use steam rooms/saunas? Having large underground complexes would allow them access to such things. And a new topic: What types of games do dwarves make use of? Anything like darts, chess and other similar games? What do you see your dwarves doing when they're not mining, smithing or adventuring? |
| Elliot Quincy Fancypants03-09-04, 04:09 PM | I'm BACK!!! ...You KNOW it!!! Yes, yes, your fearless, benevolent, wise, and shockingly handsome leader has returned from the Halls of Montezuma and the Shores of Tripoli to once again guide you with the infinite light of his masculine bosom! Some of you may remember me as Elliot Quincy Fancypants III, however space limitations on the new boards have forced me to drop my proper numerical designation. Moving on, I would like to commend and congratulate all of you on a lob well done. In my absence, you have kept well the honorable dwarven principles of wisdom and responsibility I bestowed upon you in the formation of this foundation. Ouroboros' outstanding service as interim leader has been invaluable in the keeping of these traditions. In gratitude for this, I hereby appoint him to the position of 'Admiral of the Dwarven Forces,' A position second only to my own in power and pomp. And so, until such times as I may adress you again, may Moradin be with you all.:angel: P.S. Ouroboros, I will need you to email me an updated member roster at a1_sauce@hotmail.com |
| Ukkodin03-09-04, 04:47 PM | Weeee!!!! Welcome back, illustrious founder. :bow: I am glad you are pleased with the way things have progressed. Congratulations on a successful return to our grand discussion. |
| Ouroboros03-10-04, 02:44 PM | Welcome back great leader i have kept youre seet warm passes on the kings banner:) I have send the list to you Dwarves ForgeEver!!!:cool: |
| Ukkodin03-11-04, 06:12 PM | I have an idea for a character's background (dwarf, of course) that was inspired by an incident described in a FR supplement for 2E called "Dwarves Deep", pages 53-54. (I don't think WotC will complain if I directly quote from the supplement). My dwarf would be a descendant of the survivors of the following: "The Stone Bridge: This massive stone arch spans the River Dessarin without ceremony or accompanyiing settlement, rising lonely and weathered in the midst of rolling grasslands without a road or building to be seen as far as the eye can scan. "Built long ago to link the two halves of Besilmer, it was fashioned to span the broadest imaginable spring flood of the Dessarin. It rises in a great arc, without supporting pillars, some two miles in length. It reaches a height of some 400 hundred feet above the waters of the Dessarin. "The dwarves explain the awesome size and continued survival of the Bridge to the fact that it is also a temple to Moradin. Lawful good dwarves still make pilgrimages to the Bridge, said to be one of the Soul Forger's favorite spots on Faerun. On at least one occasion, the god appeared on the Bridge to aid dwarves in need. "It occurred in the waning days of the Ironstar clan. Driven out of their holds by orcs, the pitifully few surviving dwarves fled south from their kingdom, down the west bank of the Dessarin, harried by trolls and orcs. They were led by their King, Daurvos Frostbeard, an old and wounded warrior-lord who had lost his sons in the savage fighting when Ironstar Mountain was taken by the orcs. "Daurvos continually led the young dwarven youths, his great-grandchildren among them, in rearguard skirmishes to protect his people. His daughter Tammas Forkbeard led the dwarven wives and infants on to the south. "On the Stone Bridge Daurvos fell to orc-blades, and was ridden over as the orcs routed his shocked companions and swept south after his kin. After they had gone, the mortally-wounded King crawled to the very top of the Bridge, and cried aloud to Moradin to protect the Ironstar people out of his mercy, as there were none now left in the Realms to do so. And with that plea the old King fell from the Bridge, dead, into the waters below. "There was a flash of red light, and a clang as of metal struck, that smote the ears and reverberated like the tolling of a great bell for some minutes. Looking back, orcs and fleeing dwarves alike saw a great dwarflike figure, fully 20 feet high, standing upon the height of the arch outlined in red flames. "The dwarf upn the bridge had eyes like leaping red flames and a sweeping beard, and bore a red-glowing hammere in one bare hand. He swung the hammer in a circle above his head, faster and faster, and then hurled himself down from the Bridge like a meteor, to land hissing in the water below. "There his light faded, and he rose from the waters bearing the limp body of Daurvos like a doll in one hand. Cradling it carefully against him, the armored dwarf wept, silent tears streaming down his face, adn as he wept, he ran towards the orcs. Muttering in fear, they turned to meet him as one, and he charged into their midst without a word. "At that, Tammas Forkbeard rallied her people to fight, and led a charge back at the band of orcs, to aid the newcomer. But even as she reached them, she saw that the lone dwarf among them was smiting right and left tirelessly, ignoring the blades of the orcs, and they were falling like rain around him. Soon the last of them fell at the feet of Tammas, from a blow of that awful hammer. "As Tammas looked at the dwarf, the sign of a hammer and anvil appeared in outlines of fire upon the breastplate of his armor, and she knelt in the midst of her thanks, recognizing that this was indeed Moradin. "But the Soul Forger merely held over her his hammer, sternly pointing south. She scrambled up, and led her people on. And all that day, as orcs rode after them, Moradin strode at their back. The dwarf who towered 20 feet tall smote down all who threatened the last of the Ironstars, slaying orcs as a farmer threshes wheat, until no more came, and the dwarves came to Ironford at sunset, and could go no further. "Then a flash and clangor came once more, and the survivors of the Ironstar clan were alone again. On the turf where the god had stood they found the hammer and crown of Daurvos, but his body was gone. It was this crown that the first of the dwarven Kings of the Fallen Kingdom wore, and it was to the Fallen Kingdom that the last of the Ironstars went." Me again: The nice thing about this story is that, with a little modification, it can be transferred to just about any world you wanted. I was thinking, and my DM approves, that my character would be the great-grandson of one of the survivors, raised in secret, until his great-grandfather showed up to teach him some of the methods of the Ironstars, and direct him to the general area of the clan's old stronghold, where he could learn more of the clan's lore and forge-secrets. What do you all think? P.S.: This story also gives a certain insight into Moradin, don't you think? |
| CaptMeathead03-12-04, 09:24 AM | Originally posted by Elliot Quincy Fancypants [B]I'm BACK!!! ...You KNOW it!!! Yes, yes, your fearless, benevolent, wise, and shockingly handsome leader has returned from the Halls of Montezuma and the Shores of Tripoli to once again guide you with the infinite light of his masculine bosom! Thank you for gracing us with your presence your majesty! As a new member I am grateful for such a wonderful thread. I hope I can prove my worth by offering my services when needed and prehaps earn a title as well!:D (Please refer to the top of this page for some insight to my characters current situation) |
| Ouroboros03-12-04, 02:47 PM | A great story Ukkodin and it can be used on low magic worlds as greyhawk to :) |
| CaptMeathead03-12-04, 03:51 PM | Ukkodin, I will second that as well! Very cool! It looks as though you put alot of thought into what you wrote. |
| Elliot Quincy Fancypants03-12-04, 05:01 PM | I agree, that is a fantastic background for your dwarf, Ukkodin. But don't let it turn into an unchecked butt-kick-fest like so many characters of grandeur do. I like the idea of having him raised in secret. That way you can keep him, and all the other characters in the party oblivious to his real identity. Hold back and let him advance in the most regular joe-schmoe kind of way -- keep him under an alias -- NEVER let on what he really is or where he's really from. Then at the very final climax of the story let him be contacted by his great grandfather and whisked away mysteriously to the ironstar lands, away from the rest of your party, then return in glory and splendor at the last salvagable moment of you party's darkest hour... Play it like that and it will not only kick a$$, but your gaming group will worship the ground you walk on. I would.:cool: |
| CaptMeathead03-12-04, 05:45 PM | Originally posted by Elliot Quincy Fancypants But don't let it turn into an unchecked butt-kick-fest like so many characters of grandeur do. I like the idea of having him raised in secret. Play it like that and it will not only kick a$$, but your gaming group will worship the ground you walk on. I would.:cool: Very true. It could very well to be to his advantage to do this. Now I see why you are "the exhalted grand-pooh-bah" here! :D Any chance you could come up with a cool title for me? Name is Oskar Balderk. Mountain dwarf, Fighter/Barbarian for hire . Specialize in Mercinary duties for traders and adventuring parties. |
| Ouroboros03-13-04, 01:09 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin And a new topic: What types of games do dwarves make use of? Anything like darts, chess and other similar games? What do you see your dwarves doing when they're not mining, smithing or adventuring? I gave it some touth... Dwarves play stratego! bombs are called land slides, the spy is a elf, bombadiers are miners, the maarschalk is called overking or warlord ect |
| Captain Longsword03-18-04, 12:56 PM | Ho, Elliot Quincy Fancypants, it is a real honour!! I wonder if i might enquire as to where you've been? Anyway, sorry bout that, i'm still in school mode!! It's nice to meet you sir! Hmm, i thought i had something important to say..... meh, guess not... Many thanks, Captain Waraxe :fight!: |
| Ouroboros03-18-04, 01:54 PM | I asked it before but it has been a while. It is bad that the derro isn't seen as a dwarven race anymore but as almost a deamon or devil Derro's are dwarves plain and simple and they are not insane what where they thinking:mad: |
| Elliot Quincy Fancypants03-23-04, 11:02 PM | Gotta agree with number two here. The derro are not evil, just misunderstood. I think that it is unfair to herd them like cattle into such a negative stigma. Just as there are goodly drow, there can be goodly derro. As for captain longsword, thank you for your kind words. To answer your question, I have been in training as an aviation ordnance technician for the U.S. Marine Corps. Now that I am done with all the schools and have started my real job, I am able once again to address my beloved foundation. As for capt meathead, I can offer you a position as imperial treasurer, since you seem to be good with money ;) |
| Darkest9003-23-04, 11:14 PM | I noticed on the Half-Elf Foundation that they have a list of links of all of their 'polished work'. You know, write-ups for different sub-races, house rules, or custom-made histories, stories, and the like. Since I like dwarves so much, I was wondering if this had been done, and came here to the Dwarven Foundation. Sadly, I have not found an organized list of links like I did at the Half-Elf Foundaton. Sadly, Darkest90 |
| Darkest9003-23-04, 11:27 PM | That being said, I was wondering what ye say about the Gold Dwarves? I use them outside of the Forgotten Realms setting, and have a little bit different of a write-up. Gold dwarves use the standard dwarven racial traits listed on page 14 of the Player’s Handbook except as follows: +2 Constitution, +0 Charisma: Gold dwarves are stout and tough, but not gruff and reserved like their shield dwarf cousins. Low-Light Vision (replaces Darkvision): Gold Dwarves, in my campaign, did not originate from under the mountains, and therefore have not been given their advanced eyesight. +2 racial bonus to Knowledge (architecture) to buildings made with a majority of stone. Also, a +2 racial bonus to Knowledge (dungeoneering). While Gold Dwarves appreciate stone, they only look into its architectural value. A majority of their stone-sense is therefore, gone. (replaces Stonecunning) +4 racial bonus on saving throws against poison: Dwarves are hardy and resistant to toxins. Gold Dwarves have a much greater resistance to poison than their hill dwarven cousins.(overlaps former +2 bonus against poison) +1 racial bonus to attack rolls against aberrations: Gold dwarves are trained in special combat techniques against the many bizarre creatures that live in the Vale of Nightmare (my version of an above-ground Underdark). (replaces bonus against orcs and goblinoids) No bonuses against giants: Gold dwarves never had to face the challenges the shield dwarves face and never learned those special techniques. No bonuses against spells or spell-like effects. Gold Dwarves have less of a resiliency against magic. No bonuses to Appraise or Craft checks that are related to stone or metal. Gold Dwarves are not as proficient smiths as their cousins. So, what do you think? |
| Ouroboros03-24-04, 01:54 PM | Well first said you ballanced the gold dwarf good and i liked the no magic bonus save in it. does that mean the have more wizards? |
| Darkest9003-25-04, 01:12 AM | Well thank you, Ouroboros! The Gold Dwarves in my campaign are a little more 'magicky' than Hill Dwarves. They often practice cantrips for fun and are entertained by small spellwork. Thus, in my campaign they can take one class of wizard without multiclassing penalty, but any more invokes a penalty. In my campaign, the Gold Dwarves are xenophobic aristocrats living in secure valleys and dales. They have a lot of riches and therefore try very hard to entertain themselves, often resorting to drugs and hallucinogenic intoxicants. They practice magic and fight monsters in the Vale of Dreams to sate their boredom and hunger for a good-time. They also grow a large crop of poison plants, to sell to other kingdoms. Their bonus against poison aids them with handling such plants. Thanks, Darkest90 |
| Soulmage03-26-04, 10:03 AM | Anyone else use the variant dwarf rules they printed in Dragon a while back. I find this is helpful in making dwarves all they ought to be in terms of tough: Standard dwarf rules except for the following: Dwarves Abilities: +4 Constitution, -2 Dexterity Skills: Add racial bonus of +2 to Climb, Disable Device, Open Lock |
| Darkest9003-26-04, 10:32 AM | That variant Dwarf doesn't seem like a dwarf. The +4 Constitution, maybe, but the penalty to the dexterity doesn't seem... dwarfish. Dwarves are warriors that fight with brawn and not accurate quickness, but that still doesn't mean they have a penalty to Dexterity. Furthermore, the skill bonuses make the Dwarves good climbers (which I don't think is, necessarily, true) and they are more mechanically inclined. To add the icing to the cake, this variant rule Dwarf write-up is unbalanced for an LA +0. Are you sure it doesn't have a level adjustment. |
| Ukkodin03-26-04, 12:24 PM | I, too, feel that those modifications to the dwarf make it feel less "dwarfish". I agree with Darkest90 on the Dex modification. If someone wants a +4 total to Con, and is willing to accept a -2 to Dex in addition to Chr, it should be part of the feat selection process, not an inherent part of the race. As for the racial bonuses to climb, disable device and pick lock, I do not feel those are warranted, unless it is for a dwarven subrace. I *might* see a racial bonus to mountaineering and/or caving for most dwarven subraces. However, climbing, per se, IMO, involves (usually) the ascension of prepared walls (buildings, fortress/garden enclosures, etc.), and not typically the cliffs and dropoffs most dwarves would be familiar with. |
| Ouroboros03-26-04, 02:24 PM | Climb checks for dwarves mmmm the only reason i can think of to make it work is to make a story that they lived in the moutans and where attacked from below (mindflayer, Derro, Deagar or Drow ect) and they could only flee up where they lived on the top of the moutan for Generations Don't forget a dwarf with a -2 dex could have a +1 on open lock checks |
| Soulmage03-26-04, 03:30 PM | Well, it just was a house-rule tidbit in Dragon Magazine from some WOTC staffer's campaign. According to the article, the bonus to OL and Disable Device was put in to offset the dex penalty and help ensure the Dwarf rogue didn't get hammered too badly. (No pun intended. . . O.K. maybe just a little intended.) The bonus to climb may have been my own addition. IMO, dwarves would be VERY capable spelunkers/cavers. Using climbing gear to traverse the INSIDE of mountains would come naturally to them. I realize that the +4 con is only partially offset by the -2 Dex, but I don't think it rises to the level of a +1 LA for the race. |
| Soulmage03-26-04, 03:35 PM | In any event. . . I seldom have dwarves IMC for some reason. I really like them however, so I'm willing to fudge things a little to sweeten the deal for them and encourage people to play them. You should see the dwarven rune magic system I have worked up. :D |
| Ukkodin03-26-04, 04:34 PM | Originally posted by Soulmage In any event. . . I seldom have dwarves IMC for some reason. I really like them however, so I'm willing to fudge things a little to sweeten the deal for them and encourage people to play them. You should see the dwarven rune magic system I have worked up. :D Now, that is something I'd love to see/hear about. (I've always thought that, if dwarves were to develop magic, it would be a rune-based system, as opposed to what most wizards/sorcerors use.) |
| Soulmage03-28-04, 12:00 AM | Well, it is a rune based system centered around the creation of rune-items. No dwarves casting fireballs or anything. Just rune axes, and rune armor and whatnot. Anyway, its at work. I'll try to remember to post the details on Monday. |
| Ouroboros03-31-04, 01:13 PM | rune magic as in warhammer? |
| Soulmage03-31-04, 02:26 PM | Actually, Warhammer was the initial inspiration for it, although its evolved significantly from that system. |
| Ouroboros04-02-04, 01:46 PM | Wait it can't be arcane magic then more a divine magic old secrets that Moradin the all father had given to the dwarven race. Forging power out of the rich soul of the earth (steel):D Let's see the rune magic mighty abjurer |
| Ukkodin04-08-04, 05:30 PM | Originally posted by Soulmage Well, it is a rune based system centered around the creation of rune-items. No dwarves casting fireballs or anything. Just rune axes, and rune armor and whatnot. Anyway, its at work. I'll try to remember to post the details on Monday. What happened? Did you get buried under paperwork? I understand, it being tax time and all. |
| Soulmage04-09-04, 11:57 AM | I decided I'd see if I could get Dragon to publish it. We'll see how it goes. |
| Soulmage04-09-04, 01:48 PM | No go on Dragon. "Too many rune systems already." Soooo. . . here it is in its raw form. Enjoy! Rune Magic Overview 1. Only Mountain Dwarves, Frost Giants, and Fire Giants have access to rune magic. 2. Characters learn new runes by taking the appropriate Lesser Rune or Master Rune feat. 3. In order to benefit from a rune’s power, you must know that rune (have the appropriate feat for that rune). 4. Any character, regardless of class, may inscribe any rune they know. Lesser runes cost 5,000gp in materials and 400 xp to inscribe. The process takes 1 month. Master runes cost 20,000gp in materials and 1,600 xp to inscribe. The process for a master rune requires three months. The rune creation process requires access to a fully-equipped forge. The cost for the runes includes obtaining and/or renting appropriate equipment. Stacking rules All bonuses provided by runes are considered to be “rune bonuses”. They will stack with any normal magical effect, class ability, or other source. Rune bonuses will stack with each other, but not with itself. So two different runes with similar effects will stack, but there is no benefit to putting the same rune on an item more than once. The Runelaws The Law of Form Weapon runes may only be inscribed on weapons. Armor runes may only be inscribed on armor. Some runes can be inscribed on both, however, the process for inscribing each form of rune is slightly different so each form of the rune (weapon and armor) must be learned separately by taking the appropriate feat. Some weapon runes further restrict which types of weapons they can be inscribed on. Armor runes on the other hand may always only be inscribed onto an existing suit of breastplate armor, banded mail, half-plate, full plate, or reinforced plate. In addition, runes may be woven into the fabric of a chain shirt, or chainmail armor, but this can only be done at the time the armor is created and runes cannot be added later to these types of armor. The Law of Power A single item may never have more than three runes inscribed on it. In addition, a single item may not have more than one master rune inscribed upon it. Finally, in order in inscribe a master rune on an item, the item must first bear 2 lesser runes from the same rune group as the master rune. Each master rune will have the runes in its group listed beneath it. The Runes Master Rune of Ancestral Vengance Rune Group: Any two lesser runes Effects: On any hit in which the weapon damages a creature with orc, elf, or giant blood, consult the following chart: Target is: orc or elf with levels/HD 2 or more lower than wielder – Smites dead (no save) orc or elf with levels/HD 1 or less lower than wielder – Maximum damage ½ orc or ½ elf (any level) – Maximum damage Giant-type (any level) – On roll of natural 20 followed by a critical confirmation the target is instantly struck dead. (No save) In addition, the weapon glows if any of the listed creatures are within 60’ (barriers notwithstanding). Consult the following table to determine the color of the glow: Orcs – Red Elves – Green Giants - Blue Restrictions: Weapon Master Rune of the Forge Rune Group: Form, The Hammer, Shattering, Force, any one lesser rune from the Metal rune group Effects: Weapon inflicts an additional 5d6 of fire damage on each hit. On any round in which a cold-subtype creature or a construct is damaged by this weapon that creature must make a fort save with a DC = total damage dealt. If the save is failed, the creature/construct is instantly slain/destroyed. Restrictions: Weapon Master Rune of Magic (Armor Form) Rune Group (Armor Form) Eldritch Power, Spite, Warding, Spells Effects (Armor Form) Wearer gains SR equal to 12+ level. Restrictions (Armor Form) Armor Master Rune of Magic (Weapon Form) Rune Group (Weapon Form) Eldritch Power, Force, Searing, Spite, Spell Stealing Effects (Weapon Form) Once per round, on a successful hit that inflicts damage, the wielder may cast any touch-range spell of 5th level or less through the weapon as a free action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Restrictions (Weapon Form) Weapon Master Rune of Metal Rune Group: Adamantite, Silver, Mithril, Iron, Steel Effects: When used in melee, the weapon ignores the armor bonus (but not magical enhancement bonuses) of any metallic armor or shield used by the target. Restrictions: Weapon Master Rune of Rulership Rune Group: Benevolence, Diplomacy, Leadership, Will, Years Effects: Once per round as a free action the wearer may cast the Greater Command spell against a single target. Using this ability does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Restrictions: Armor Master Rune of Stone Rune Group: Basalt, Earth, Granite, Obsidian, Marble Effects: Grants the wearer DR of 5/- Restrictions: Armor Master Rune of War Rune Group: Hurling, Impact, Might, Penetration, Seeking, Swiftness Effects: The wielder gains an additional ranged or melee attack at their highest base attack bonus each round. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Adamantite Effects: The weapon counts as if it were made of adamantite for the purposes of defeating damage reduction. In addition, the wielder may critical constructs as if they were normal living creatures. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Basalt Effects: The wearer gains a +2 bonus to all fortitude saves. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Benevolence Effects: The wearer gains a +1 bonus to all saves. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Diplomacy Effects: The wearer automatically scores a 20 on all Charisma-based skill checks. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Earth Effects: As long as the wearer is on his feet and in contact with the ground, he cannot be moved against his will. Trip, overrun, and attempts to pick him up automatically fail, as do any spells or other magic that might move him. Exception: If the character is affected by any spell which requires a will save (i.e. failed his save) the Rune of Earth no longer applies as he is considered to be acting in accordance to his (new) will. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Eldritch Power (Armor Form) Effects: The wearer gains +2 to all spell save DCs and +2 to his caster level. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Eldritch Power (Weapon Form) Effects: During any round in which you score a successful hit that inflicts damage, the target’s SR is reduced by your character level until your next turn. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Force Effects: Your weapon ignores miss chances for incorporeal creatures and inflicts +2d6 force damage. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Form Effects: As a free action you may switch your weapon’s damage type (piercing vs. bludgeoning vs. slashing). Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Granite Effects: The armor gains a +2 increase to its armor bonus to AC, and a +5 bonus to its hardness. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Hurling Effects: The weapon’s range increment increases by +10 feet. It also returns to the wielder’s hand just before their next action. (Note: If the weapon also carries a Master Rune of War, the character may make 2 hurling attacks, THEN the weapon returns again just before the character’s next action.) Restrictions: Weapon: Throwing axe, hand axe, battle axe, light hammer, warhammer Rune of Impact Effects: Any hit scored by the weapon when it is thrown counts as a critical hit. Restrictions: Weapon: Light hammer, or warhammer (w/ Rune of Hurling) only. Rune of Iron Effects: The weapon counts as cold iron for the purposes of beating damage reduction. In addition, it gains the Bane (evil outsiders) property. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Leadership Effects: The wearer gains a +4 bonus to their Charisma score. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Marble Effects: The wearer gains a +2 bonus to their Constitution score. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Might Effects: Whenever the weapon scores a critical threat or critical hit, it automatically inflicts maximum damage. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Mithril Effects: The weapon counts as silver for the purposes of bypassing damage reduction. In addition the wielder may score critical hits against undead creatures as if they were normal, living creatures. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Obsidian Effects: The wearer is immune to level or stat drain from necromancy spells or undead creatures. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Penetration Effects: The weapon ignores the armor and enhancement bonuses of light and medium armors. Shields remain effective. Restrictions: Weapon: Crossbows and picks only Rune of Searing Effects: Wounds inflicted by the weapon may not be healed through regeneration or fast healing. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Seeking Effects: The weapon’s range increment is doubled and the target’s dodge bonuses are ignored. Restrictions: Weapon: Weapon must have a range increment listing Rune of Shattering Effects: The weapon inflicts maximum damage when striking constructs or when damaging objects. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Silver Effects: The weapon counts as silver for the purposes of bypassing damage reduction. In addition the weapon gains the Axiomatic weapon property. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Soul Stealing (the corresponding Master Rune has been lost) Effects: On a critical hit in melee, the wielder heals damage equal to the unmodified die rolls for damage to the target. Restrictions: Melee weapon Rune of Spell Breaking Effects: On any round in which this weapon strikes a foe, the target is also struck with a targeted dispel magic. (1d20+10 caster level check). Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Spell Stealing Effects: When struck by this weapon in melee the target looses 1 random spell from his highest spell level as if that spell had been cast for the day. The wielder is healed of damage equal to the level of the spell stolen. Restrictions: Melee weapon Rune of Spells Effects: The wearer may cast all spells as “laden” spells without having to expend the additional spell slot. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Spite (Armor Form) Effects: The caster gains a bonus of +4 to all spell penetration checks. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Spite (Weapon Form) Effects: The weapon ignores any magical armor bonuses, or enhancement bonuses on armor or shields protecting the target. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Steel Effects: The weapon negates bypasses an amount of unbeatable damage reduction equal to its enhancement bonus. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Storms Effects: Inflicts +2d6 electrical damage and emits a loud thunderclap. In any round an opponent is struck by the weapon, that opponent must make a fortitude save (DC 15) or be stunned for 1 round and permanently deafened. Any use of this weapon is clearly audible for miles around. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Swiftness Effects: So long as this weapon is on the wielder’s person, he automatically receives an initiative score of 20+ modifiers. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of The Hammer Effects: Once per round on a successful hit, any creature up to 1 size larger than the wielder must make a balance check with a DC equal to the highest single-hit damage the weapon dealt that round. If the check is failed, the creature is knocked prone. Restrictions: Weapon Rune of Warding Effects: The wearer gains +4 to saving throws vs. spells and spell-like abilities. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Will Effects: The wearer is immune to mind affecting spells and powers. Restrictions: Armor Rune of Years Effects: The wielder gains +4 to their Wisdom score. Restrictions: Armor |
| Ouroboros04-09-04, 02:16 PM | Pritty Soulmage but i think some lesser runes aren't worth the penalty And i have grave news for the dwarf player including me:rolleyes: In Player's Guide of Faerun on page 20 aargh!!! The wizards are to focused on elves that the can't see the diferents between a grey and a gold dwarf:mad: |
| Soulmage04-09-04, 04:37 PM | Could be. I haven't thoroughly playtested/balanced the system yet (hence the raw form). I was more concerned about making things overpowered rather than underpowered. As such some of the runes might have been nerfed a little too much in development. |
| Soulmage04-09-04, 04:37 PM | Duplicate. |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-12-04, 06:45 AM | Greetings People of Khazad. There's been a post by our W.Paradox at Metaboards - about Foundations. We've been given our own forum - and are about to be moved. It's a Games forum - which means we can make it look the way we wish - and can use IC concepts in our work. There's limited off-topic chat allowed too. Anyhowz - the thread Discussion (>>here<< tells what's happened. *bows* long may your beards grow |
| Wolfhart04-12-04, 09:59 AM | I be wonderin ifn any ere can be tellin me the ranks(8) in da military of the dwarven army? Also wondering ifn ya could a be looking o're this version of ma self and give mah some pointers as how ta be acting. http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218729 (Never have I played a Noble, let alone a prince.. And no clue bout the military) |
| Ukkodin04-13-04, 06:47 PM | Welcome, Wolfhart. I'm not sure about the ranks of the dwarven military; their military structure is going to vary from clan to clan, as well as from DM to DM. Having given a cursory look to your character, I'd say he(?) looks good. As for playing nobility/military, others will have to provide tips. Thought I would post the following from Dragon #245, page 83 (an article on Dwarven etiquette): THE ELEVEN AXIOMS OF DWARVEN ETIQUETTE: 1. "Be loyal and honorable to your king." 2. "Honor your clan, your family, and your ancestors." 3. "Stand by your word." 4. "Never forget when you've been wronged." 5. "Never turn your back on a friend in need." 6. "Anger and pride are both good for the spirit." 7. "In the hearth, the woman is always right." 8. "Never come between a dwarf and his weapon." 9. "Never make light of another dwarf's beard." 10. "Never make light of another dwarf's livelihood." 11. "Honor those who have honored themselves." I admit, these aren't necessarily universal to all dwarven cultures, but do you think this is a good starting point for developing certain aspects of dwarven behaviors and culture? |
| Finwe04-14-04, 11:49 PM | Greetings, shortbeards ;) Let me be the first to welcome you to the new Guild House, or foundations board. All it costs to stay here is to send a magic item worth at least 20,000 GP to each of your GM's (me, sil and orcy) once per month. Seriously: Welcome to the new board. You are now free of the shackles of having to stay on topic for the particular board you are in. Now you can role-play, discuss rules or just generally chat. Enjoy! |
| CaptMeathead04-15-04, 05:11 AM | Originally posted by Ukkodin THE ELEVEN AXIOMS OF DWARVEN ETIQUETTE Ukkodin, Thank you for posting this! This is very helpful!!! |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-15-04, 06:12 AM | ....Ukkodin - very :cool: I'd use 'em in my campaign.....they remind me that Dwarves make really loyal (and powerful) allies. She approaches the Doors of the Stonefolk, and cautiously finds her way to the Great Meeting Halls of the Dwarves. She looks inside and sees a great gathering of Dwarves - where Ukkodin holds a large stone tablet - inscribed with perfectly crafted Dwarvish Runes. She marvels quietly as she reads from the tablet - seeing the fidelty of the Dwarves to their culture. Even though it is strange to her on one level - she has deep and enduring respect for their beliefs and culture. She knocks her staff heel on the grounds - and says "My apologies for the interruption. I come with an invitation". She has a scroll - and bows low as she hands it to Orobourus. "To join us at the Great Council - where we would hear The Will of the Dwarves". |
| Ouroboros04-16-04, 01:43 PM | I accepted Sir Silmarien Aldalome but where is it ? Where is the councell i hope it has a sollid roof |
| Ukkodin04-16-04, 01:59 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin Welcome, Wolfhart. I'm not sure about the ranks of the dwarven military; their military structure is going to vary from clan to clan, as well as from DM to DM. Having given a cursory look to your character, I'd say he(?) looks good. As for playing nobility/military, others will have to provide tips. Thought I would post the following from Dragon #245, page 83 (an article on Dwarven etiquette): THE ELEVEN AXIOMS OF DWARVEN ETIQUETTE: 1. "Be loyal and honorable to your king." 2. "Honor your clan, your family, and your ancestors." 3. "Stand by your word." 4. "Never forget when you've been wronged." 5. "Never turn your back on a friend in need." 6. "Anger and pride are both good for the spirit." 7. "In the hearth, the woman is always right." 8. "Never come between a dwarf and his weapon." 9. "Never make light of another dwarf's beard." 10. "Never make light of another dwarf's livelihood." 11. "Honor those who have honored themselves." I admit, these aren't necessarily universal to all dwarven cultures, but do you think this is a good starting point for developing certain aspects of dwarven behaviors and culture? Many thanks for the compliments on these axioms; I just wanted to stress that I did not come up with them, I was simply quoting from an article in DRAGON magazine, issue #245, titled "Best Behavior". I imagine that all appropriate credit and copyrights should be given to the company (when TSR was a fresh subsidiary of WOTC) and the author (Christopher Perkins); I liked them so much that I thought maybe they should be reiterated here, in case someone missed the issue. |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-18-04, 12:11 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros I accepted Sir Silmarien Aldalome but where is it ? Where is the councell i hope it has a sollid roof When Ouroboros accepts the invitation - Sil is gladdened. She bows low - and then leans on the Runestaff. She says "many things are afoot and the world is changed. There is a confluence of peoples from all over the known world. A great council - many things are being discussed. We would welcome the Dwarves and their mighty axes at this >>Council<< (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221284) - where the Future is being forged. |
| Ouroboros04-21-04, 12:16 PM | This is the complete member list of the Dwarven Foundation did i forgot someone or you wish to join now . Youre welcome to make youreself heared Elliot Quincy Fanypants III 'Lord of the Dwarven Foundation' Ouroboros 'Admiral of the Dwarven Forces' Spellhead Laup Steelhart el kapeetann piwi Anthor Del Niera ozgood the traveller Dolian Graniteroot tj333 Night Watchman Ukkodin 'Keeper of Dwarven lore' Dwarven Smith Corius Ra'vien ranger182 weaponsmith Endur Stonehelm Giant Donkey Kong SwordMaster The Ultimate Dragongod MDMRippley Inflicted Groselhoman JL3712 Gnaipnur Durth Grumbar Ironfist Robur Swordswinger, Duergar Paladin Arhkan the Black KumaKhan HighCleric Niglemaz vash the fighter AegisBane raggerd TracerBullet7 Kazoron Mithrilaxe kgmiller Two-Faced Halfling Gaven Obryn Darkfell Chipperagwa Jimmy Teark strombringer Argsnoth Forgesmith SmilingTyrant JackRipper HammerFist Freaking_Pirate Dalmor ShadowSoul shortstak37 Captain Longsword Frostbite_Ravenheart TheJester from Winchester King Gromphf Goldstein Nos-4-A2 Noth little black bill BrianMc223 Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) Rose Madder LizardRider (Scholar of DragonLore) fiendish_servant (Rage Master) Vrain Runeseeker FC_Shredder (Cleric of Haela Brightaxe) CaptMeathead Silmarien Aldalome "Half-Elf Foundation Leader and a mighty allie of the dwarven race" |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-21-04, 06:08 PM | I'd love to join up Ouroboros - if you'll have me. If Half-Elves can't be on the lists - I have a Dwarf named Vinjare - who is still alive - and who we've been playing with in an ancient campaign that goes back to 1981. Vinjare has just found his ancient Dwarven clan - called Clan Dhâerrim - who are 10,000 years old - and a clandestine Dwarven clan - regal and with highly developed stone-crafstmanship and a kind of "Dwarven Magic". Is anyone interested in seeing more about them? Regards stav |
| Ukkodin04-21-04, 06:27 PM | I would love to see more about them, Silmarien. Furthermore, if Half-Elves can't be a member of our foundation, I'd like to suggest we start up a list for "Honorary Dwarves", those individuals who love and support us dwarves without being dwarves. My nominees for such a list would include Silmarien Aldalome, and (if memory serves from pages past) Orcy the Green Wonder. What do you think, Ouroboros? (By the way, how did those Jade Dwarves work out for you, Ouro?) |
| Ukkodin04-22-04, 06:34 PM | Of course, I don't mean to say that if Sil would like to be a member of our foundation because of her dwarven charcter, she shouldn't be allowed to be; she would be a worthy addition regardless. |
| Ouroboros04-23-04, 11:44 AM | Originally posted by Ukkodin I would love to see more about them, Silmarien. Furthermore, if Half-Elves can't be a member of our foundation, I'd like to suggest we start up a list for "Honorary Dwarves", those individuals who love and support us dwarves without being dwarves. My nominees for such a list would include Silmarien Aldalome, and (if memory serves from pages past) Orcy the Green Wonder. What do you think, Ouroboros? (By the way, how did those Jade Dwarves work out for you, Ouro?) I never recalled that i ever said that only dwarves are allowed you got to have a fondness of dwarves and respect them the way they are. And no the Jade Dwarves did work out because i didn't have the change to playtest them i have a hard inof time finding a gaming group. (I am writing some Jade dwarf history lets see if i can post it tomorrow) |
| Ukkodin04-23-04, 05:48 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros I never recalled that i ever said that only dwarves are allowed you got to have a fondness of dwarves and respect them the way they are. I stand corrected, and I apologize for any insult I may have given or implied to anyone reading my comments. Sometimes memories are faulty... :( |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-24-04, 12:11 AM | Greetings Orouborus and Ukkodin - Thanx guyz *smiles* OK - here's some background to Clan Dhâerrim. I'll introduce them today - and add as we go. Culture & History The Dhâerrim have a highly developed stone-based earth & stone magic in addition to expertise and precision with the tools of warrior folk. But they are a very isolationist culture. The origins of this are ten thousand years ago, at the end of the Fifth Age of Aarendor, when the Dwarves formed a splinter group. At this time, the Dhâerrim removed themselves from the events of the world. When the Dark Lord and Usurper was deposed by new discoveries in Elven High Magic and the birth of the Two Trees of the Formeno Naure (The Elven Ost-In-Edhel=City of Elves) the Dwarven Loremasters became deeply troubled. The Eldest of the Dhâerrim was a Dwarven Seer who had prescience. He saw that the Elven High Magic would one day fail and that when this occurred, the Dwarves would be endangered by the change in the Order of the World. Thus, a migratory pilgrimage occurred, with 500 of the Faithful, who travelled far away from the travails of Aarendorean life. Guided by Morradin, and Thor, the chanting Dwarven Warrior folk were lead to a secret underground labyrinth of vast proportions. When these caverns were found, the Dwarves were awed and gladdened - for they were saw life and shapes in the stone leaping out at them. Their Stone Lore was kindled by the Grace of the Dwarven Deities and the Fathers of Clan Dhâerrim bowed low before Morradin and Thor. And Thor stood forth and said This place is a Sanctuary, crafted for the Dwarves when the World Was Made. For we saw that this Day would Come and that the Stone Folk would need it. While you remain here you have our blessing. Find your Stone Lore here - and flourish. But hearken - there will come a Day when you will be called forth from these Halls - and thence all the world will be changed forever. With that The Dwarves began a great labour - crafting the Stone with th Inspiration of the Muses. The delved and created vast hallways, chambers and many pillared halls. The Underground Realm of The Dhâerrim became a vast interconnected metropolis and Empire greater than any on Aarendor. And, as the Dwarves delved, they found a deeply buried highly polished Stone. An Aspect of Creation it was - and imbued with indecipherable magical power. Some artifact of immeasurable power and purpose. Earth-Magic it was, the Heart of Stone and Dwarvendom in Aarendor. And in its light - the Dwarves learned New Lore. Stone Lore - a mastery over Stone that transcended anything ever known before. Thus, they transformed their underground Labyrinth into a network of interconnected marvellous Stone Conduits, secret doors, and Living Lore. For, the Dwarven City was more than just stone. As they evolved, it became a Living City, where the very stone itself was a part of the city's life. They proliferated and their numbers swelled, and they formed the Great Council of the Stone Folk - whose Leaders were great Dwarves with long silver beards and who were regally dressed. Many places existed, alight with Stone Magic - where vats of glowing amethyst grace the Council Chambers with mauve light as the Dwaven Folk crafted their world. |
| Ouroboros04-25-04, 08:02 AM | Stone mages sounds so dwarven :smirk: |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-25-04, 08:55 AM | *sees Orouborus* *smiles and says to self "he's right - Dwarves need to be Dwarfy not elfy - hmmm...* Orouborus + Ukkodin - I'd be happy to mould the Dhaerrim work into something Dwarfy enough....there might be some PrC's and who knows - skills/feats/spells that could be developed.... Would you/Ukkodin+Others like to work on them with me? regards to you stav |
| Ukkodin04-26-04, 12:32 PM | I would be honored to provide ideas, Lady Silmarien, once I have had a chance to think on what you have provided so far. So far, everything sounds good, especially the Stone Magic... |
| Ouroboros04-26-04, 12:43 PM | The Dhaerrim PrC i think of is called a Earthy Protector. Dwarves that protected there world with (Earth) divine magic and ride small earth elementals (There mounts are stone plates so it could be more surfing then riding) This could be a respectfull prc or a joke i have to be carefull. Fellow dwarves it is type a show you a short chapter of the history of the Jade Dwarves Chapter I: Jade Dwarven History Dwarvenkin existested longer then any dwarf cares to remember. The dwarven race is ancient but compared to the world around them they still are children Moradin the all father began with a dream he created dwarves in a land that he know no other ancient god would care to l When the legends are right and I am sure they are. Then did Moradin create the first dwarves when he did and where he did it is still to be found out. The All father placed one clan of dwarves in a s small material plane called Meté appreciably between the second and forth rise of sun and moon. The dwarven clan learned fast in it’s work of steel. And Moradin forged an allies with the god of steel of that plane. The dwarves lived in peace so stable that the other races above had forgotten about them. A powershift between the gods acured when Moradin and his following focused there touths on other dwarves in other plains. Then a war broke out so fierce that it shook the earth and ripped moutons apart. Leaving the dwarven forges exposed to the upperworld. As loud tunder and a killing spree of demons where send down on them the dwarves cried in terror and prayed to maradin to save them soon. But Moradin did not came only tunder, fire and death. The death and tunder stopped and there was only fire a bigfireball approached the scared dwarves backed away and cried for help they begane to curse the dwarf father for the wrong doing. Then the fire stopped close in of the burn the dwarves but it didn’t the flames took form of a giant dwarf an Azer it was Kínich who didn’t bare the title of Ajaw yet. The future king of the gods felt pity for the cowering dwarves and decided the spare them. Till this day are the jade dwarves renowned to there loyalty to the gods of the plain Meté especially K’inich Ajaw and scoff at hearing the names of the Steel god and any god of the dwarven pantheon. The Aeons of devotion Sacrificial rituals where part of the world long before even the first dwarf set his foot on Meté. But it where the jade dwarves that gave it a purpose and part of daily live. Many Jade dwarven lives where lost in the wars between the self appointed Ajaw of the gods Jadac Mexay Ajaw god of steel (and new sun god after slaying Ilhuicaqui Goddess of the sun). And the marshal of Ilhuicaqui strong armie K’inich. K’inich armie who where vastly outnumbered contained a great number of humans, jade dwarves, azers, xochitl orcs and aarakocrains of 100.000 strong assisted with a handful of rustmonsters, dinosaurs, gaints and gaint eagles. They had to fight an armie more then 1.000.000 strong. Consisting out of humans, tabaxi, lizardfolk and gaints assisted with iron golems and other creatures from the elemental plain of steel. Jadac Mexay Ajaw also had control of all fire elemetals but his experience it there use was limited. After along battle Jadac was loosing with it’s armies fighting enemies from both up and under and the god K’inich and his guards closing in he was right to feel worried. He ordered that his armies must be ten folded and tried to increases it’s godly power with blood sacrifices. K’inich was also growing in power his many victories made many other tribes van man and xochitl orcs join his armie. Even many other dwarves that survived the end of the sun joined K’inich side. More rustmosters where captured and more Gaint Eagles where convinced of the justice the god-marshal would bring. The moral of the enemy dropped with the day while K’inich troops moral grew. While K’inich was sacrificed with flowers and setting free caged creatures and slaves. Jadac Mexay Ajaw’s sacrifices where to fast and numerous. Without any retuals a god can’t grow in power with mass murder. Ritual sacrifices to Jadac Mexay Ajaw where defiled by Gaint Eagles that piced that rescued the victims from the retual altars. Every day Jadac Mexay Ajaw grew with anger as Kínich grew closer to overthrow him. On the 13th day of Ollin at the 376th year after the end of the 3th sun. It was that day that Jadac and Kínich crossed swords together. It was an even match Jadacs sword Rust Bane drew blood, K’inich Macauitl Tecupopoca (vulcanomirror) didn’t drew as much blood but blocked most of Jadacs attacks. Then Jadac felt blood all over his body sure that he had won he was suprised with K’inich blow with it’s Macauitl that he fell from the stares of his own throne. Closing in for the kill K’inich approaches but the side he saw stopped him. Jadac Mexay was bleeding from his iron eyes came blood, out of it’s nose and ears, nails, mout hand it even became to drip from it’s skin. Jadac was weakened and was not able to fight anymore. K’inich was disgusted by the side of all negative divine power Jadac tried to gain to get the upperhand in there last fight. It was the blood of the creatures jadac butchered. Jadac was contained to let him bleed out. There after K’inich drew a dagger and removed Jadacs heart gainging the power of Ilhuicaqui and made him the new Ajaw of the gods K’inich Ajaw. The heartless Jadac Mexay fled the lands searching for any god that could help him overthrow Meté again. (Moradin is it’s foremost ally but jadacs loyalty is of course questionable). After Jadac was overthrown the world grew dark and the sun didn’t rise. The moon goddess Cuanipopola ruled the lands K’inich Ajaw didn’t approve of any blood sacrifice in it’s name. And began to weaken. Members of al races began to pleat to the azer to tell the lord to fight her. But K’inich Ajaw couldn’t fly to the moon to challenge her. K’inich had lost the battle before it started. All races tried to sacrifice other things flowers, fish, animals but nothing helped. Then a Jade Dwarf rouge named mitzlin whose tatics saved many battles but where seen as cowardice. Stepped forward he saw orcs build a huge bonfire before the god in the hope it would awaken the sun in the Ajaw. He stepped forward shouting "My lord the world neets you, Meté needs the sun, Meté needs a king…. Meté needs a sun that let’s maize sprout to feed and to bring hope. Don’t you hear to plies for help order some sacrifices to let the sun rise for just one day." "One day" the last word egod in the room and it was quite for a long time. Then K’inich spoke "brave mitzlin I just can’t order a creature to take the live of a fellow being. I would be evil by robing someone from there loved one, there, child, there parent. Please understand that I feel like a father to you all. I just can’t order strength for granted by doing so. Would put the fight against Jadac in fain he will appear in my guise and he will be me" Mitzlin smiled "You will not be Jadac my lord, my Ajaw. There will be no death because you never ordered. You will be K’inich Ajaw always the mighty protector and sun god of Meté. You will be strong by love and respect so please except what I have to offer…" Mitzlin had barley spoken it’s words as he began to run toward the bonfire a jumped. No scream was heard and every had little time to recover. K’inich Ajaw himself carried Mitzlin out of the fire. Mitzlin was heavily burned but still a live he spoke to his lord "Please take my heart expected it as a gift to all beings that desire peace and frutality" K’inich Ajaw gave a nod and a the 2 orcs held Mitzlins legs and 2 jade dwarves held Mitzlins arms a Azer removed Mitzlins heart. The hearth was given to K’inich Ajaw who fild strong again he carried the sun to heavens but the moon didn’t yield Cuanipopola wasn’t about to give up her place in the sky. K’inich Ajaw was ready to confront her. News how the sun had risen again spread as a bonfire (pardon my prease). Many bonfires where set and sacrifice where mate just like that of Mitzlin but this time with a drug. (every tripe and race made one even tabaxi some for the last time) K’inich Ajaw saw the bonfires and accepted every offer. Cuanipopola is a human goddess with her soul trapped in the moon herself she can’t die as long as the moon remains. K’inich Ajaw attacks her and smites her. Suprised that the Ajaw can indeed harm her every scar he inflicted on her created on the moon. It didn’t took long for her that she could only yield to this mighty foe. This happened in 9th Quiahuitl at the 376th year after the end of the 3th sun or better known as 9th Quiahuitl the first year of the reborn 5th sun. Although K’inich Ajaw distrusted her he accepted her marry aprosal making her his 3th wife. In there joing came a twin the blood goddess Itzpo and the gold smith god Coyotec. The Jade Dwarves continued to work for there god. And honouring Mitzlin as the perfect way of the unlife. In the name of K’inich Ajaw they rebuilded cities and when K’inich Ajaw asked them to not control the lives of others they did so. They lived under the sea of shadow in the underdark where the sun sleeps. There they train the dwarves most creatures se as a true jade dwarf: loyal to it’s god. The real excellent students or little mutated of them are choice to go to Meté so that it will never forget that the gods need mortals as hard as mortals need gods. They where the once that let the creatures from the stars be respected for honouring there gods. They where the once that made peace between there gods and the gods of the Oxlaku. They where the once that excepted the Lamalian religion. They where the once that organised a counter attack of the Mudi and there mostly evil gods. They where the once that must accepted the ultimate fusing between K’inich Ajaw and Tlauetzal (head god of Oxlaku. And they are the once ready for Jadacs return with everything he can throw at Meté. |
| Silmarien Aldalome04-27-04, 06:33 PM | As Orouborus speaks, his resonant baritones echoe throughout the council chamber of the Dwarf Lords. He raises his great Axe and swings his mighty arms - and re-enacts parts of the epic Dwarven battle. The Dwarves watch on - their eyes follow Orouborus around the room as he recalls the glory of the Moon god - and the vying of power amongst the pantheon. The Dwarves gasp as they hear how the very earth was rended asunder - exposing the Dwaven Halls to sunlight. Greetings Ukkodin - great to see you. See you soon.... sil |
| Ouroboros05-02-04, 12:41 PM | Does the dwarven race need so many gods? We have Moradin, the all-father: Head of the Pantheon and creator of the Dwarven race. Berronar Truesilver, The Revered Mother: Goddess of Protection. wife of Moradin, and keeper of families. Laduguer, the gray protector: Exiled god who his the headgod of the Duergar. Diirinka, The Tormenter: God of Magic and cruelty head god of the derro (< Also dwarves don't forget that ) The following gods are the once i ment.... Abbathor, Trove Lord: God of greed and rebels against dwarven clan hood. Clangeddin Silverbeard, Father of Battle: God of warfare Dumathion, The silent keeper: God of miners Sharindlar, Lady of Life and Mercy: Goddess of love and romance. Vergadain, Merchant King: God of merchants. Dugmaren Brightmantle, The Errant Explorer: God of knowlege and wizards Gorm Gulthyn, Fire Eyes: God of defence. Marthammor Duin, Finder-of-trails: God of travel. Thard Harr, Lord of the jungle deeps: God of the wild. Deep Duerra, Queen of the invissble art: Goddess of psionics Haela Brightaxe, Lady of the fray: Goddess of luck in the battlefield. --- So do we need them all? My anwser yes. But fellow dwarves do you agree with me or nor speak your mind. (Sil what gods do youre Dhâerrim follow Moradin and Thor any others (Berronar)? |
| Orcy The Green Wonder05-02-04, 01:14 PM | Of course you need all those gods, ya have to worship something for everything. Look at the ancient greek gods. Everytime I read something about em theres some new one I didnt know about. Now, let Orcy raise you a question... does the elven race need so many elven races ;) (don't discuss this one, unless you switch over to the elf foundation) |
| Zyme8605-04-04, 02:43 AM | Praise be to Moradin, I'm home. This is the best board yet, I just found it and wow, it's awsome. In my group, none of them can understand why I like dwarves so much. They think they arn't useful:sad: !Cretins! May they be trampled by a heard of stampeeding trisaratops. I was wondering if I could join, It would be an honor. Long Live the Dwarves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Ouroboros05-04-04, 12:07 PM | Elliot Quincy Fanypants III 'Lord of the Dwarven Foundation' Ouroboros 'Admiral of the Dwarven Forces' Spellhead Laup Steelhart el kapeetann piwi Anthor Del Niera ozgood the traveller Dolian Graniteroot tj333 Night Watchman Ukkodin 'Keeper of Dwarven lore' Dwarven Smith Corius Ra'vien ranger182 weaponsmith Endur Stonehelm Giant Donkey Kong SwordMaster The Ultimate Dragongod MDMRippley Inflicted Groselhoman JL3712 Gnaipnur Durth Grumbar Ironfist Robur Swordswinger 'Duergar Paladin' Arhkan the Black KumaKhan HighCleric Niglemaz vash the fighter AegisBane raggerd TracerBullet7 Kazoron Mithrilaxe kgmiller Two-Faced Halfling Gaven Obryn Darkfell Chipperagwa Jimmy Teark strombringer Argsnoth Forgesmith SmilingTyrant JackRipper 'Holder of the Bloodaxe' HammerFist Freaking_Pirate Dalmor ShadowSoul shortstak37 Captain Longsword Frostbite_Ravenheart TheJester from Winchester King Gromphf Goldstein Nos-4-A2 Noth little black bill BrianMc223 Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) Rose Madder LizardRider (Scholar of DragonLore) fiendish_servant (Rage Master) Vrain Runeseeker FC_Shredder (Cleric of Haela Brightaxe) CaptMeathead 'Master of spice and meat' Silmarien Aldalome "Half-Elf Foundation Leader and a mighty allie of the dwarven race" Zyme86 I Ouroboros 'Admiral of the Dwarven Forces' caretaker of this foundation and second to our king Elliot Quincy Fanypants III. Welcomes everybody who wishes to join the foundation of dwarvenkin as a brother or sister. So herrise Zyme86 and know your duty to the clan, your race and your patheon : |
| Ukkodin05-04-04, 12:26 PM | To answer your question, Ouroboros: We dwarves do not necessarily need so many gods. Here are my thoughts on a couple of the gods you specifically asked about: Clangeddin Silverbeard: He should be there, as a military adviser for Moradin. Haela Brightaxe: Wouldn't she be married to Clangeddin? Sharindlar: Is not love and romance covered, at least in part, by Berronar Truesilver? She should be dumped from the pantheon. Other gods/aspects: Magic: Dwarves, as a whole, don't use it enough to warrant 1 god of magic, let alone 2. I would imagine that Moradin would take on this as part of his aspect as the all-father and creator of the race. Merchants, Exploration: If there's to be one, wouldn't they be rolled into one god? After all, without exploration, you don't get an expansion of your trading area, and thus no real expansion in your customer base. Out of curiosity (not complaining here): How did I earn the title of "Keeper of Dwarven Lore"? |
| Ouroboros05-04-04, 12:33 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin Out of curiosity (not complaining here): How did I earn the title of "Keeper of Dwarven Lore"? We can always change a title Ukkodin if you don't like it. Well you DID post some usefull dwarf backgrounds. |
| Silmarien Aldalome05-04-04, 06:27 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Does the dwarven race need so many gods? We have Moradin, the all-father: Head of the Pantheon and creator of the Dwarven race. Berronar Truesilver, The Revered Mother: Goddess of Protection. wife of Moradin, and keeper of families. Laduguer, the gray protector: Exiled god who his the headgod of the Duergar. Diirinka, The Tormenter: God of Magic and cruelty head god of the derro (< Also dwarves don't forget that ) The following gods are the once i ment.... Abbathor, Trove Lord: God of greed and rebels against dwarven clan hood. Clangeddin Silverbeard, Father of Battle: God of warfare Dumathion, The silent keeper: God of miners Sharindlar, Lady of Life and Mercy: Goddess of love and romance. Vergadain, Merchant King: God of merchants. Dugmaren Brightmantle, The Errant Explorer: God of knowlege and wizards Gorm Gulthyn, Fire Eyes: God of defence. Marthammor Duin, Finder-of-trails: God of travel. Thard Harr, Lord of the jungle deeps: God of the wild. Deep Duerra, Queen of the invissble art: Goddess of psionics Haela Brightaxe, Lady of the fray: Goddess of luck in the battlefield. --- So do we need them all? My anwser yes. But fellow dwarves do you agree with me or nor speak your mind. (Sil what gods do youre Dhâerrim follow Moradin and Thor any others (Berronar)? Well said great Orouborus - Father of Dwarves, whose stature recalls the image of Dwarves in the Beginning. Whence life sprang from the very stone by the very breath of the Gods. Newly awakened, the First Dwarven eyes reflected the marvel of the caverns of the earth. Deep they delved in their Ancient Homeland - in awe of all that lies beneath the earth and long they crafted, and so that the splendour of Dwarven imagination surrounds all those who see their halls. Verily - The Dhâerrim take Moradin, Thor and Tempus as their protectors. And truly do they hold to their Deities. Welcome Zyme86. How did I earn the title of "Keeper of Dwarven Lore"? *chuckles* ....Moradin - snowed under by a barrage of requests from praying Dwarves, keeping the fellow members of the pantheon happy, making sure his wife Berronar gets enough company, taking care of the kids, making sure the delving folk find enough mithril.... *says shopping list of duties* needed a helping hand. So - he head-hunted Ukkodin - and gave him the Loremaster Portfolio.... ;) Cheekily Yours stav |
| Ukkodin05-05-04, 06:55 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros We can always change a title Ukkodin if you don't like it. Well you DID post some usefull dwarf backgrounds. Who said I didn't like it? ;) I was just being surprised that I had been granted such an honor by your honorable self. *Trying not to seem overwhelmed by the honor bestowed upon him by Ouroboros, Ukkodin accepts the Loremaster's portfolio, bows, and departs the hall to place the portfolio someplace safe, yet easily accessible for all, until it is needed.* |
| Ouroboros05-06-04, 12:13 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin Clangeddin Silverbeard: He should be there, as a military adviser for Moradin. Agreed :fight!: Originally posted by Ukkodin Sharindlar: Is not love and romance covered, at least in part, by Berronar Truesilver? She should be dumped from the pantheon. Sharindlar sows the seeds of love. Berronar protects well in forgotten realms anyway. And FR is a campain that suports elfs. mayby a try to make dwarves more apealing? (It is true love makes dwarves do dumb thinks Sharindlar stands for them :P ) Originally posted by Ukkodin Magic: Dwarves, as a whole, don't use it enough to warrant 1 god of magic, let alone 2. I would imagine that Moradin would take on this as part of his aspect as the all-father and creator of the race. Dugmaren Brightmantle is a relative of Moradin i heard. and Diirinka only has the derro as worshippers Diirinka is probaly the wizard thet crossed the human and dwarf together to created the derro. |
| CaptMeathead05-11-04, 12:30 PM | At last I have returned from the vaults! Having been busy tallying the hordes of treasure for the foundation I must report....not bad!:D Loved all the stuff everyone's been posting as of late! HO to Ukkodin! How have ye been??? Ouroboros, great admiral....prehaps I may too "change my title" if not to be too bold? As off late my mind has been fried trying to balance the books, with the constant influx of treasure, jewels, mining, etc. I would much rather prefer to return to a much preferable profession.. I am a butcher by trade, and a rather good chef. Prehaps Head Chef, Keeper of the Spice? I make an excellent Spiced Mindflayer Jambalaya!! :D |
| JackRipper05-11-04, 04:05 PM | A loud noise can be heard through the mighty halls of the dwarves. The stonework made by dwarven high lords over the many ages seem to shake while the loud noise grows in strength. It is the sound of divine power, at first thought, but then, you realise it comes from the stronghold's most renown tavern. It is Garth Balderk, who is now awake from a deep, deep slumber, and he stretches himself like he slept for a thousand years. The sound erupts from his most intense yawn, a yawn that will remain echoing through the halls for an eternity, some would say even years after the occurance. He stands up, his eyes barely opened still, and touches around the room for his only companion Bloodaxe, but then realizes he left it in his hand while asleep. His eyes open, and he greets the world as he is born anew, directing his words of hope to his beautiful axe: Long have I slept, my precious Bloodaxe, and I dreamed about a glorious war against black fiendish elves, called drow, and friends of mine fought alongside eachother. I remember the return of our great king, the beautiful ascension to his throne, my forgiveness for past crimes... I feel as though reborn, as though Moradin himself blew life to me alone, like he did so thousands of years ago with my kin. I feel as though I have found a new home now, in which I can talk freely about whatever pleases me, and I thank the gods, the wizo's and many of my brethren for this gift. A feeling of great joy gives me strength, and I call for all my old and new friends to wish each other a good morning, if only as a symbolic act to embrace these gifts and their brethren. May the dwarves feel strong again, and may they ever know where to come when they need a good ale and some friendly company! He walks outside, saying 'good morning, my friend' to all passerby's, while spontaneously giving some, even strangers, a big hug. Garth Balderk is happy... Long live the dwarven foundation! Long live our new freedom! |
| Ouroboros05-12-04, 12:12 PM | Welcome back CaptMeathead and Jackripper it felt like a human live time as we al last met. Join us for a ale (or somthing stronger) |
| Ukkodin05-12-04, 05:58 PM | Welcome back to our wandering sons. Past business: Lady Sil, I'm still thinking on your Clan Dhaerrim, as I've been drawing a blank on additional ideas. Soulmage: Your Rune system looks good in its raw form. Hopefully you'll get a chance to balance it out and test it properly soon. New thoughts: Reading some of the "Old Writings" (2e supplement flavor text), I was wondering what we dwarves consider to be "Paradise". Is it more like the Viking concept of Valhalla? Does it involve hard work and grand parties? Some combination? Or am I leaving something out? (DMs take note: A great way to have an epic level campaign without screwing up your Prime Material Plane may be to move such characters to an "afterlife" where even bigger enemies can be found.) |
| Silmarien Aldalome05-12-04, 06:08 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin Welcome back to our wandering sons. Past business: Lady Sil, I'm still thinking on your Clan Dhaerrim, as I've been drawing a blank on additional ideas. ....I'll add into them then - I'm happy to. [GM-Voice]Also - we're free to "explore" boundaries a bit - and relax some in the new forum - it's less strict on producing "product". Any thoughts on what you'd like for Dwaven Halls?[/GM-Voice] New thoughts: Reading some of the "Old Writings" (2e supplement flavor text), I was wondering what we dwarves consider to be "Paradise". Is it more like the Viking concept of Valhalla? Does it involve hard work and grand parties? Some combination? Or am I leaving something out? (DMs take note: A great way to have an epic level campaign without screwing up your Prime Material Plane may be to move such characters to an "afterlife" where even bigger enemies can be found.) One idea: Digs - dig-sites, rich in lodes, stones, metals. Lots of tankards, pipeweed. To the bold-face: an adventure where the Pantheon meets the mortals! Would they inter-lock - the one affects the other. Whose Moradin buddies with? And who's after him? ....Moradin's home plane is under assault. The Demiplane of Shadows has swarmed the Dwarven Halls - they've come to rob the Dwarves of an ancient artefact - kept by Moradin to protect the world since time immemorial. If the Dark Folk secure this power - the world shall be imperilled. In the prime material plane, the Drow - now masters of Dark Elven Magic, akin to Elven High Magic - come to assault the Stone Folk. The Drow have learned how to cast spells without memorising them - and without the limits of 10th level magic. The balance of Power has shifted in the Prime Material Plane - and Mystra must re-think her Bans on magic - lest all the World be overrun by the coming of Darkness.... |
| Ouroboros05-13-04, 12:22 PM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Verily - The Dhâerrim take Moradin, Thor and Tempus as their protectors. And truly do they hold to their Deities. Why Tempus? It is a god of war that switches sides with any camp. It's true dwarves get his blessing in combat. But so are the Orcs, goblins, drow, orges and all the other creatures that fight agaist the dwarven cause. (no direspect to orc and drow players ;) ) And what about Sif, thor's wife. |
| Silmarien Aldalome05-13-04, 08:48 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Why Tempus? It is a god of war that switches sides with any camp. It's true dwarves get his blessing in combat. But so are the Orcs, goblins, drow, orges and all the other creatures that fight agaist the dwarven cause. (no direspect to orc and drow players ;) ) And what about Sif, thor's wife. IMC - The Dhaerrim are an ancient society - who are ruled by a Great Dwarven Council (i.e. they are not Monarchists). The Council is comprised of The Great Houses of the Dwarf Lords - fabulously famous through tens of thousands of years of history. But - because they are diversly represented - and there are schizms and splinter factions vying for power - and a plot device that I'll use that may threaten Civil War. Tempus provides the "Romulan" architecture - intrigue, deception, self-serving aspects. We're at a crucial point in history - where the stability of this great Dwarven civilisation is threatened..... Who's Sif? Can you fill me in a bit more about her - my Dwarf Lore is short here..... *smiles* |
| Ouroboros05-15-04, 09:35 AM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome IMC - The Dhaerrim are an ancient society - who are ruled by a Great Dwarven Council (i.e. they are not Monarchists). The Council is comprised of The Great Houses of the Dwarf Lords - fabulously famous through tens of thousands of years of history. But - because they are diversly represented - and there are schizms and splinter factions vying for power - and a plot device that I'll use that may threaten Civil War. Tempus provides the "Romulan" architecture - intrigue, deception, self-serving aspects. So if i get i right worship of Tempus is done i secret places. As a assisan guild of war? :confused: I really think i get it wrong but i like the idea of dwarven asssesans that remove powerfull player at the battlefield in a not so hourbla way. Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Who's Sif? Can you fill me in a bit more about her - my Dwarf Lore is short here..... *smiles* No dwarven lore when you wrote Thor i asumed it was Thor god of the tunder. From Norse mytology. Sif is thors wife. ( As i wrote before). She is a sword maiden. |
| Ouroboros05-16-04, 07:38 AM | Did someone read Dungeon #319? It's about an old campainsetting called *Darksun*. So if you did what did you think about the Athasian dwarf and the Mul the world is a desertplane and the dwarves live in the placing sun A Athasian loses his stonecunning, +2 save to posion it's +1 to hit orcs, It's +4 dodge agaist gaints and there +2 bonus to craft and appraise infolving stone or metal. That is a lot losed :( What they gain is a extra +2 to con and wis? Dwarves are stout and tough but tend to be gruff and reserved so why the +2 to wis? Inborn power they get 3 exra psion points a +2 agaist psionic attacks (if you have a +2 agaist magic what is the bigdeal) Focus: a +4 bonus agaist will saves that could endanger the success of the dwarves live quest. Favored Class: Ceric Level Adjustment: +1 (what the why?) Muls are magiacal bred between humans and dwarves. But act more like real dwarves then the dwarves from *Darksun* (only my upinion) |
| Silmarien Aldalome05-19-04, 07:02 PM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Did someone read Dungeon #319? It's about an old campainsetting called *Darksun*. So if you did what did you think about the Athasian dwarf and the Mul Ain't read it - but bring us up to speed! I'd love to hear a bit about their "flavour" the world is a desertplane and the dwarves live in the placing sun A Athasian loses his stonecunning, +2 save to posion it's +1 to hit orcs, It's +4 dodge agaist gaints and there +2 bonus to craft and appraise infolving stone or metal. That is a lot losed :( What they gain is a extra +2 to con and wis? Dwarves are stout and tough but tend to be gruff and reserved so why the +2 to wis? The wisdom stuff - is interesting. A parallel to other authors. If I think about the Folk of Khazad - there were cities like Nogrod and Belegost - and Seven Houses of Dwarves. I reckon Wisdom is a "learned" (c.f. "Nature") thing - and within the seven Houses - we can differences in "collective wisdom". Inborn power they get 3 exra psion points a +2 agaist psionic attacks (if you have a +2 agaist magic what is the bigdeal) Focus: a +4 bonus agaist will saves that could endanger the success of the dwarves live quest. Favored Class: Ceric Level Adjustment: +1 (what the why?) Muls are magiacal bred between humans and dwarves. But act more like real dwarves then the dwarves from *Darksun* (only my upinion) They're a really cool subrace! So if i get i right worship of Tempus is done i secret places. As a assisan guild of war? I really think i get it wrong but i like the idea of dwarven asssesans that remove powerfull player at the battlefield in a not so hourbla way ....we're still seeing how this is gunna play out in the Campaign. I'm thinking of starting a civil war (as mentioned) - and the assassin idea is a really good one. I'm thinking about a big Dwarven Council - where one of the key people (the "good" guyz) gets done in by a saboutour from Tempus...... stav |
| Ukkodin05-19-04, 07:45 PM | To answer the question about Sif (pulled from the entry at http://www.pantheon.org ): "The golden-haired wife of the god Thor. There is not much known about her, except that she could originally have been a fertility goddess. Neither does she appear often in the myths. The best know myth, however, is when Loki the Trickster sneaked into Sif's bedroom and lopped off her hair. Furious, Thor threatened to smash him unless Loki managed to replace the hair. He went to a great cave, the home of the sons of Ivaldi, and told them the reason of his journey. He then asked the dwarfs to spin gold as fine as Sif's hair and imbue it with magic that it will grow on her head. The dwarfs agreed and made a long wave of fine golden strands, which Loki gave to Sif." I don't know if this is all there is about her, but at least it gives some basis. (It also doesn't hurt that dwarves werre responsible for restoring her hair, after a fashion...) |
| Ouroboros05-21-04, 12:38 PM | http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/dd_gallery/dd4/Sif_p188.jpg From Deities and Demigods (in a way) Sif Goddess of Excellence and Skill in Battle Lesser Deity Symbol: Upraised sword Alignment: Chaotic Good Portfolio: War, dueling Worshippers: Barbarians, fighters, paladins, rangers, combat instructors Cleric Domeins: Chaos, Good, War Favored Weapon: Longsword Wife to to Thor mother of Uller (that isn't Thor's son) (she also as a twin Magni god of strenght and Modi god of courage and beserk rage that are Thor's) Dogma Sif's cultist are generally excellent fighters of all sorts, and many are weapon masters. Like her husband she concerns herself with individuals involved in combat. Where Thor emphasizes physical powess, Sif emphasizes skill. Good natured challenges between the two cults are cumon. Clergy and Temples Sif's clergy are predominantly, but not entirely female. They are strong capable people with quick wits and combat skills. Many dye a lock or braid of hair blond, or braid yellow ribbons in their hair to resemble there patron deity. Visitors to Sif's Temples are ignored unless they carry a weapon openly. This often leads to a challange with the draw of first blood. To discover the new comer is cabble in handeling the weapon. Well sif doesn't work like this at all in real mytologie but this one gives more sense in worshipping her. |
| Ouroboros05-23-04, 11:53 AM | Here is a pesterige class hopefully it repesends youre Dhâerrim Sil Earthy Protector A Earty Protector represents a order of dwarves that dedicated there lives for the protection of the dwarven community and the bond of earth herself. It's members include paladins, rangers and druids dwarves that in a way are distant to the community. But in the big picture they defend the caves that lead to the dwarven cities defending dwarf and any non evil beings that live there. Bonded with a Earthy Padalstal that gives them there needed knowledge of the terain. In time of warfare Earth Protectors serve as much needed fast calvarie or scouts. Hit Dice: 1d8 Requirements To qualify to become an earthy protector, a character must fulfil all the following criteria. Race: Dwarf Alignment: Any non evil. Base Attack Bonus: +6 Skills: Sense Motives +6, Ride +8, Balance +5 Feat: Widen Spell, Mounted Combat, Ride bye Attack Special: The character must have a earthy paddastall as a companion either Special Mount or Animal Companion. Class Skills Concentration, Tumble, Balance, Climb, Search, Handle Animal, Hide, Listen Skill Points at Each Level: 4 + Int modifier Table DprC-1: Earthy Protector Base Attack Fort Ref Will Level Bonus Save Save Save Special 1 +0 +2 +0 +2 Ongoing Turn and Destroy Air Elements, Rock Sticker (2), Special Mount 2 +1 +3 +0 +3 Eye in the storm, Inproved Stabilty, Melt into Stone (2) 3 +2 +3 +1 +3 Earthy Puddle, Rock Sticker (3), Spell Class +1 4 +3 +4 +1 +4 Defile Gravity, Wall of Stone (2) 5 +3 +4 +1 +4 (advanged) melt into stone (2), Rock sticker (4) 6 +4 +5 +2 +5 Spell Class +1, Wall of Stone (3) 7 +5 +5 +2 +5 (advanced) melt into stone (4), Rock Sticker (5) 8 +6 +6 +2 +6 Inproved Stabilty, Glide, Wall of Stone (4) 9 +6 +6 +3 +6 Spell Class +1, Rock Sticker (6) 10 +7 +7 +3 +7 (advanced) melt into stone (6), Wall of Stone (+5), Eartquake Class Features All of the following are class features of the earthy protector prestige class. Weapon and Armor Proficiency: An earthy protector gets no extra weapon or armor profiency. Ongoing Turn and Destroy Air Elements (Su): An earth protector gains this abilty only if it has prefius levels in turning abilities. A class that could turn undead for exable gains this ability each level it takes in the earthy protector class but doesn't gain further turn undead levels. Rock Sticker (Su): An earthy protector can stick to stone walls as in the spider climb spell but only against mud or rock 2 times a day. This abillity increasses with 1 each 2 levels. Special Mount (Sp): The Earthy Pedastal mount of the earthy protector gains levels as Paladins Mount (page 45 of the playershandbook) Levels of paladin and earthy protector stack. Eye in the storm (Sp): An earthy protector has a free of movement effect when underground. When an earthy protector makes contact with earth it can case the ground to shake in a 30 ft (+ 5 ft for each 2 earthy protector levels) radius. Every one that hasn't a freedom of movement on rocky terrain must make a balance check DC 15 + earthy protector levels. Does that fail get a -10 to there attack roles and concentration skills for one round. Improved Stability: a dwarves stability grows with 4points at 2de and 8th level. Melt into Stone (Su): As the spell two times a day this will increase at 4th, 7th and 10 th level. At 5th level the earthy protector gains the ability to see true the stone it is fused into. Earthy Puddle (Su): An earthy protector can trade a charge from it's rock sticker, melt into stone or wall of stone ability to change the radius of it's Eye in the storm abilty to change the stone into mud. Any creature into the puddle fights if they are loaded to there full carrying capacity. Defile Gravity (Ex): As long as an earthy protector remains on a moving earthy padalstall it can move every where where there is rock or mud. Wall of Stone (Su): As Spell Glide (Sp): When an earthy protector falls down it falls with a speed of 10 ft that doesn;t grow. The earthy pedastall and it's rider can move into the air at half speed This abilty can be turned of at will. Earthquake (Su): As the spell it will cost 4 energy types of either Rock Sticker, Melt Into Stone or Wall of Stone. Earthy Padalstall Small Magical Beast (Earth) Hit Dice: 2d10+2 (12 hp) Initiative: +3 Speed: 50 ft. (10 sqares) Armor Class: 16 (+3 Dex, +1 Size, +2 Natural) Base Attack/Grapple: +1/ - 4 Attack: Punch +1 1d3, Bite +4 Bite 1d4 Full Attack: Punch +1 1d3, Bite +4 Bite 1d4 Space/Reach: 5 ft./0 ft. Special Qualities: Dark Vision 60 ft., Melt into Stone (Ex) Saves: Fort 4, Ref 3, Will +0 Abilities: Str 10, Dex 16, Con 13, Int 2, Wis 10, Cha 8 Skills: Listen +5 Spot +5 Feats: Weapon Fittese Bite Environment: Underground Organization: Trope 3d4 Challenge Rating: 1/2 Treasure: The total body flued of an earthy padalstall is worth 1 sp. Alignment: Neutral Advancement: - Before you stands a disk the only thing that proves it is alive are it's blinking rodent like eyes. An earthy pedestal lives mostly on a diet of small rodents, birds and insects. The dug of an earthy pedestal has traces of silver and there eggs are made of gold an earthy paddastall egg is worth 2 gp. Most elders let there young fend for them self but there is always a dwarven druide or earthy protector nearby to protect a nest of these persevers of dwarven fututure Carrying Capacity: A earthy padalstall can carry it's maxium load without suvering any effects maxium load 280 lbs. Combat An earthy padalstall flees at any trace of danger bye using it's melt into stone abilty. They fight only when cornered. Melt into Stone (Ex): An earthy padalstall can melt it self (and only itself) into stone in it it can see clearly. This gives the creature the abilty to burrow into stone with out leaving a trail (earthy padalstalls are house broken and dung only on used places) |
| Ouroboros05-25-04, 12:06 PM | No one? A well I tough up a question does a dwarf tan in the sun? (does it's skin brown) Dwarven skin is grey in colour (mountain dwarves have a light skin tan and gold dwarves brownish) I would say that mountain dwarves tan in the sun other dwarves deugar, hill, gold ect. don't. :b: And derro die in the sun :b: |
| Ukkodin05-25-04, 12:38 PM | I agree that Mountain Dwarves would have a tendency to tan/darken when exposed to reasonable levels of sunlight. Hill Dwarves may be of the same tendency. Whether Gully Dwarves tan will depend upon the dominant sub-race background (unless they've been above ground for an appropriate number of generations). As for your prestige class, I find it very :cool: I don't know if I'd have the temperament to play it properly, but I think it's a worthy addition. Do you agree, Sil? |
| Silmarien Aldalome05-25-04, 06:03 PM | Hi there fellow Dwarf Folk. OK - first off - to Great Orouborus :bow: Your posts above are superb! Nice work! Ukkodin - Agreed! As to skin colour - I've always imagined that they're skin is akin to stone - and the various hues of stone that one can find. Generally, Tolkienian Dwarves had whitish skin. But, I'm sure there are variations to that theme. Black as onyx, white as marble, red as quartz. And all variations in between...... ....Silmarien sees the bright shining armour and gleaming helms of the Dhaerrim as they march to war. They have emerged into the sunlight - for the first time in nigh ten millenia. She greets them on a silver horse - and behind her stand the Pereldar - and Versemasters of the Half-Elven. Their Blue and Silver robes blowing in the winds. The Dwarves are kindled to rage by the betrayal of The Cult of Tempus and the murder of Head Counsellor, and fleeing from the burning ruins of their vast underground empire - the Dwarves have resurfaced, bearing those few items and precious artifacts that could be saved from the catastrophe. Dwarves pull their beards and hurl their fists in the air in despair, as tears run down their cheeks. Even though their numbers are great, fully one third of the Dhaerrim were lost in the Civil War and in the destruction of the underground Empire. In the final hours - the corrupt Dwarves of Tempus cast a Great Black Spell - that sent a surge of Shadow into the interconnected Conduits of the Dwarven City. The result was devastating, with explosions ripping the very stone and sending screams of anguish all throughout the realm. Amongst their ranks stand Dwarvish Stonemages and at the head of their ranks - a great ancient, silver-bearded Dwarf, whose demeanor is grim. About him is his family: a wife and two sons, and behind them - a great chest, bearing the last symbols of the newly fallen Dwarven Empire....... |
| Ouroboros05-26-04, 12:13 PM | :( Just a sad story nothing honourable ever comes from a chaotic neutral war god. When are you gonna post a stone mage Sil you have kept us waiting far to long. |
| Azer Firelord05-28-04, 02:12 PM | "Hail Brothers and Sisters of Earth. May I become a member of your mighty Foundation." Oh, and anyone know any good Azer Origin Myths? I might post mine up later... |
| Ouroboros05-29-04, 11:03 AM | Elliot Quincy Fanypants III 'Lord of the Dwarven Foundation' Ouroboros 'Admiral of the Dwarven Forces' Spellhead Laup Steelhart el kapeetann piwi Anthor Del Niera ozgood the traveller Dolian Graniteroot tj333 Night Watchman Ukkodin 'Keeper of Dwarven lore' Dwarven Smith Corius Ra'vien ranger182 weaponsmith Endur Stonehelm Giant Donkey Kong SwordMaster The Ultimate Dragongod MDMRippley Inflicted Groselhoman JL3712 Gnaipnur Durth Grumbar Ironfist Robur Swordswinger 'Duergar Paladin' Arhkan the Black KumaKhan HighCleric Niglemaz vash the fighter AegisBane raggerd TracerBullet7 Kazoron Mithrilaxe kgmiller Two-Faced Halfling Gaven Obryn Darkfell Chipperagwa Jimmy Teark strombringer Argsnoth Forgesmith SmilingTyrant JackRipper 'Holder of the Bloodaxe' HammerFist Freaking_Pirate Dalmor ShadowSoul shortstak37 Captain Longsword Frostbite_Ravenheart TheJester from Winchester King Gromphf Goldstein Nos-4-A2 Noth little black bill BrianMc223 Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) Rose Madder LizardRider (Scholar of DragonLore) fiendish_servant (Rage Master) Vrain Runeseeker FC_Shredder (Cleric of Haela Brightaxe) CaptMeathead 'Master of spice and meat' Silmarien Aldalome "Half-Elf Foundation Leader and a mighty allie of the dwarven race" Zyme86 Azer Firelord Welcome Azer Firelord to the foundation of anything dwarven. Sadly i know little of Azer Origin. But these are my takes: 1. Moradin created dwarves on every elmental plane the azer endured. 2. Azer are created by the fire gaints by mixing there blood with dwarven blood they hoped to build an powerful army. But the Azer feld the dwarf in themselves and rebbeled against the Fire Gaints. |
| Azer Firelord05-29-04, 08:37 PM | Molth Kul clears his throat. "Let me tell you what my tribe says of its origins, hundreds of years in the past. Once we were normal, fleshy, prime dwelling dwarves, with our beards of hair and our love of stone. We dealt in the great Dwarven fortress of Durnfleim on the world known as Undar. Durnfleim was powered by a vast furnace which tapped the energy of the Elemental Plane of Fire itself. While the genius who had designed this amazing artifact was long dead, there was a class of dwarves dedicated to tending the furnace, a class known as the azer. One day the furnace began to dim and fade. We hoped it was just an anomaly, but the next day it grew worse, and so it went on, growing colder and less powerful, week by week. We prayed to our god, Thumos, god of the Hearth, but no answer came. Eventually our leaders said "We can only save the furnace by the sacrifice of our lives. Let us walk into the flames and fuel it with our own bodies! Those that wish to may stay behind, but they will no longer be azer." Well, we entered the furnace and began to burn, but we crossed into the Elemental Plane of Fire, and Thumos awoke from his distraction by the elven gods and took pity on us and rewarded our bravery by transforming us into our current form. Such is the burden of my tale." Note that this is just the origin of his tribe- he doesn't claim it was that of all azer. |
| Silmarien Aldalome05-30-04, 09:09 PM | @Ouroborus - greetings Dwarf Lord. The Stone Mage is "brewing" and en-route to Dwarven Halls :) @Azer Firelord+all Sil listens to the Tale of Azer Firelord, studying the Great Dwarf with renewed awe. For - verily unto the very fires of the Elemental Plane did the Great Dwarves of Durnfleim hurls themselves, half in despair, and half in faith. She looks to her left, where seated at the Great Stone table are her allies, the Stone Mages of the Dhâerrím. They discuss strategy - for the Shadow has come again, after ten millenia, and the Dwarves are vengeful - their great homeland has been assaulted and the Dwarves are Dispossessed. Sil says "Great is the Stonelore of Dhâerrím. Bring this Lore forth - and let us study it - that we may seek to devise new tools of power to aid the Dwarven Cause." |
| JackRipper05-31-04, 09:20 AM | I, Garth, am proud to be granted the recognition from my brothers the dwarves. Bloodaxe tells me he too is most grateful for the honor given to him by means of this title. As for your creation myth, Azer Firelord, I am impressed by the braveness your people must have had when they dared march into those hellish flames, and your story is beautiful. I am glad that we now have a representative of your people in our midst, as we can learn from eachother for sure. I always guessed when I first heared about your kind, that they were once the normal dwarvish inhabitants of a great vulcano hall. These people worshipped their vulcano, besides the other dwarven gods, as their mother, calling her Azuras. Their skin and hair however were, over the many centuries, heated and burned by the intense heath of the vulcano, but through this they grew resistant to the heath. This would have led to their strange appearance. However, when disaster struck these strange azer dwarves, as they were called, a name abducted from their mother god, and the vulcano grew silent and dead, the heath lessened and the fire dissapeared, untill all was as cold as outside. Then, the Azer dwarves despaired, believing their Azuras had abondoned them. But because the extreme heath had gone, the Azer were totally unresistant to the cold that now befell them. Many died as a result, and their flaming beards went out. What happened to Azuras nobody knows still, but the other pantheon of the dwarves were still there, and they fellt pity. Especially Moradin, who took action, as he guided the entire Azer folk out of the cold and barren vulcano, towards the elemental plane of fire, were ever their beards would flame bright. And so it came to be that the Azer folk established themselves on this outer plane... (this is what I used in a world of mine) |
| Azer Firelord05-31-04, 09:32 AM | "Aye, your story warms my heart, as if it were not warm enough already!" Molth Kul chortles, sending sparks flying. "But my tale is not as happy as you may think. For not all the dwarves of Durnfleim chose to march into the furnace. Some preferred to lose the name of azer and stay in their ancestral halls, alive and well. Fools! For the furnace was not revived by our sacrifice- perhaps if they had come too it would have been. Without its great artifact Durnfleim was too large- it could not produce enough food to nourish the defenders needed for all the walls. So the enemies of the dwarves took it, and Durnfleim the Ruined it is known as today, a wretched place of darkness and evil. And those dwarves who held back now wander its halls as ghosts, malevolent spirits trapped in anguish." I like your story as well, by the way., Now, I have been thinking for some time of making a 'Firelord' Prc for the Azer, like the Stonelord Prc in Complete Warrior. Problem seems to be Fire is much more dangerous than stone- so the abilities tend to look rather powerful. Any thoughts? |
| JackRipper05-31-04, 05:13 PM | thanks. I often try to mix realworld-reasoning/science with fantasy-religion/suspects: in this case I played a bit with evolution with the azer who adapted to their hot environment, and with fantasy you can freely do so. Likewise, I let the vulcano die, as they die in realworld (we know the logical explanation for it), but these fantasy Azer people didn't, and so they thought it must have been the godess who abandoned them etc. I like to play with these kinda' things sometimes. Anyway, enough ranting ;). I'm sorry to hear about yer tale's end. As always, there are some who are lucky and some who aren't. I guess the azer folk are truly blessed then if Moradin himself protected their survivors from this dire fate. and it sure seems like a nice adventuring place. |
| Azer Firelord05-31-04, 05:30 PM | Molth Kul regards the other dwarf keenly. "Ah, brother I would not want to start a religious debate. But where I come from Moradin is considered a heretical deity and his followers are persecuted by the other dwarves. You, see our priests say the dwarves existed before the gods, which puts rather a dampener on Moradin's claims. I myself don't pay much attention to such esoteric questions." (The above is indeed true of my campaign world- meta-game reason being I created it in 2nd edition and then added the Core Rules deities from 3rd some time later...all the Core Rules deities aree considered heretical by the old Established Churchs whose gods I made up on my own!). Yes, I have used Durnfleim for adventures- and the azer still have a portal to it, so they have served as 'non-combat' encounters/allies, for my heroes. Edit: And if you liked that story, do visit http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=250093 for other thrilling tales:angel: |
| Ouroboros06-03-04, 12:18 PM | question how do female derro look. As the derro has a little trace of human in him/her hag like, dwarf like, human like? |
| Ouroboros06-06-04, 02:44 AM | No one bites? Other question then what dwarf is the best movie dwarf 1. Gimli (lord of the ring trilogie) doesn't want to be tossed 2. Elwood (D&D movie) dwarven fighter? more like dwarven barbarian 3. Grumpy (Snowwhite and the seven dwarfs) "let no one into the house" (the other dwarves or more gnomish) 4. Londoss war dwarf (Londoss wars) don't no him but he looks cool |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-06-04, 07:42 AM | Dhâerrím Stone Mages The first golden rays of the sun rise over the Armies of Aarendor, and a horn rings out on the ancient battlefield and as the first light touches the earth of the Dark Tower for the first time in one thousand years. The axes of the Dwarves are raised to the skies, with the swords and bows of Man and Elf and a great cheer of ten thousand rises into the morning skies. The talons of the Dark Citadel rise into terrible spires before the armies as the twisted ramparts and tortured stonework is revealed at last by the touch of sunlight. The Lords of the Dwarves, Elves, and Men ride forth - bearing the banner of their lineage. For the Dwarves, the midnight blue banner blows on the winds, bearing the Helm of Moradin of Mithril thread, that flashes in the sunlight and with the sun and the moon to either side and blazing smithy at the base. By this banner, that of the Elves with seven mithril stars on night sky behind an image of two trees. Their silvery branches adorned with green leaves, the one bearing the sunlight thread behind it, so that it glows golden and the other, with the hue of moonlight. And for men, a great runed sword, crested with the rising sun. By the reckoning of the Dwarven History Tomes of the Dhâerrím, Dwarf, Elf and Human formed this alliance over ten thousand years ago. And it was during this moment, when the Elves Gifted the Dwarves with a talisman. A small highly polished red crystalline stone that shone with piercing light. The Lord of the Elves came to the Dwarves, his piercing grey eyes burdened by grief and by the bloodshed of the battlefield as the chill morning breeze blows his silvery blond hair about him. And his words are recorded here - forever to be known to the Dwarves and never forgotten. It is a Shard from Eartheart - that from which Moradin sparked Life into Stone and so created the Dwarven Heart and when the world was newly made. Fate should have this find the Dwarves that your shall know your true nature. For not ever has Dwarf and Elf fought side by side, and this Gift is ever Honoured by the Elves so. Follow Eartheart and the Dwarves shall prevail And in the final moments, it was Dwarven steel that first bit the Dark Lord. And thence Verse of Elf and strength of Man who felled him. And the Dark Lord forever relives his falling, and ever sees the Dwarf Lords' bright eyes as he falls. But even as the Dark Lord fell he swore eternal vengeance for those wounds bear him eternal pain. But the Shard spoke to the Dwarves, and kindled a longing in them to find Earthheart. And so after the Dark Lord was vanquished, a great host of Dwarves assembled, and their eyes turned to the Mountains. The Dhâerrím began a great migration, guided by the heart's compass and by the Shard of Stoneheart. Ever it shone more brightly in the darkness as the Dwarves delved and they bore Moradin's spirit in their work. And so it was that they discovered Eartheart deep within the feet of the Mountains: a large red crystalline sphere, shining with living fire, and alight with Moradin's Spirit. Thus, the Dwarves first beheld Eartheart. Closer now, in the Light of Moradin's Spirit than the Dwarves had known. And in its light the Dhâerrím were awed, and filled with lore inspired by Spirit. They raised their heads, and chanted in low baritones, learning an attunement with Eartheart. In its light, the Dwarves mirrored the Spirit of Moradin in their work, and so created their greatest achievements that lead to the pinnacle of Dwarven Civilisation. In all things, the Dwarves surpassed their knowledge, learning skill in metal work, gem, and stone. But also of Eartheart, Dwarves became imbued with a kind of Magical Lore. The Lore of Eartheart, is mastery over Living Stone. 1. They must be a Dwarf. 2. Base Attack Bounus (BAB) of +10. 3. Great Wisdom and Strength - at least 14 on these abilities 4. Any Good Alignment. 5. Have witnessed Eartheart or a Shard of Eartheart. Class Skills Climb, Heal, Herbalism, Concentration, Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (Religion), Knowledge (Nature), Knowledge (The Planes), Listen, Spellcraft, Scry, Spot. Skill Points 4+Intelligence Modifier Class Features Weapon & Armour Proficiency as per parent Class Spells If appropriate, at every level, the character gains spell slots as if you had gained a level in the spellcasting class she belonged to. However, she does not gain any other benefits of the parent class that would have been gained with level advancement (feats, special abilities). If the character had more than one spellcasting class before becoming a Dhâerrím Stone Mage, you must decide which class to add the new Prestige Class to for the purposes of determining spells per day. Dhâerrím Stone Mages Lvl BAB Fort Ref Will 1 +1 +2 +0 +2 2 +2 +3 +0 +3 3 +3 +3 +1 +3 4 +4 +4 +1 +4 5 +5 +4 +2 +4 - - Function DC ----------- 15 ----------- 15 ----------- 20 ----------- 25 ----------- 30 Notes: 1. - - - |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-06-04, 07:54 AM | Hi there guyz. First off - I've posted the flavour text for a Dhâerrím-based PrC. I've deliberately left five slots (or possibly ten) for the Prestige Class's function. I thought we could develop the ideas here that come out of the flavour text and other ones too, and then I'd post V-II once we'd discussed it. 1. Gimli (lord of the ring trilogie) doesn't want to be tossed 2. Elwood (D&D movie) dwarven fighter? more like dwarven barbarian 3. Grumpy (Snowwhite and the seven dwarfs) "let no one into the house" (the other dwarves or more gnomish) 4. Londoss war dwarf (Londoss wars) don't no him but he looks cool Gimli! Without a doubt. Dwarves out of legends, whose armour blazes in the sun and whose battle cries ring out against the Darkness. cheers stav |
| Ouroboros06-06-04, 12:21 PM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Dhâerrím Stone Mages 1. They must be a Dwarf. 2. Base Attack Bounus (BAB) of +10. 3. Great Wisdom and Strength - at least 14 on these abilities 4. Any Good Alignment. 5. Have witnessed Eartheart or a Shard of Eartheart. Class Skills Climb, Heal, Herbalism, Concentration, Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (Religion), Knowledge (Nature), Knowledge (The Planes), Listen, Spellcraft, Scry, Spot. Why a BaB of +10 this will meen that wizards get the class at 15th level it is for dwarf mages isn't it? And Herbalism? Why not Heal and knowlegde herbs with a +2 sys bonus to heal with healing diseases? When i look at it it looks more like a cleric order then a mage order. Idea: Spell conmonemts Gold: destroying undead and Deamons Silver: Countering moon effect Ruby: Sumoning Fire Elemental no does't work the way i wanted let me think about it again....:confused: |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-06-04, 08:00 PM | Hi there Ouroborus - To first question - hmm, 'mages' - i dunno - not sure if a "clericy stone mage" is out of the question option. The "Herbalism" - hmm, you're right you know - plants don't grow that well underground. Normal plants that is. I was thinking in terms of special stone and crystalline infusions as part of Stone Magery. A number of particular "pastes" for putting on wounds, or for various Mage-related spells and effects. Gold: destroying undead and Deamons Silver: Countering moon effect Ruby: Sumoning Fire Elemental What about Stone-Blade, Stone Sage, Stone Rage, Stone Burn (a rock transformed into molten as it is Telekinesed at the opponent), Stone-Hallow (the Stone becomes living and hallowed to Dwarves, and "revolts" (pillars fall on intruders, rocks fall from ceiling to strike target, seemingly randomly, but they've got consiousness behind them) and against non-appropriately aligned/racial presences. Then we could have Stone Light.... thoughts? |
| Ouroboros06-07-04, 12:31 PM | Stone Light: When Sacrificing one of it's 0-level skills. A stone mage can comment the rocks to shiver small parts of there skin. on a 30 ft radius of the mage starts a darkness spell every creature that has dark vision ignores this effect. Extra Effect: The Stone Mage dark vision doubles until the end of the effect. Duration: As Light Spell Component: 1/4 lbs Kalk. |
| Ukkodin06-07-04, 12:47 PM | For movie dwarves, Gimli is by far and away the best one depicted to date. Female derro? If you can picture a haglike dwarf, then that's how I see them. I think they might be the only ones with any significant hair on their heads, leaving them with a look kind of like the queen from "Snow White" in her hag guise. |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-07-04, 09:01 PM | @ Ouroborus - Stone Light is good. @ Ukkodin - high there. Your Dwarven Leader has a Sticky Thread at the Guild House Ukkodin - check it out. In Honour to the Dwarves - the Dwarf Lord commands the gathering of Lore into a place where All Races do reside... I just had an idea for a variant on Stone Skin: Stone Armour. Can be cast anywhere there is stone - and like fluid, the Stone becomes plate and armour around the Dwarf Stone Mage. It is magically charged and so does not weigh as much as normal armour. It differs to normal armour, in that the point where it is struck, reacts and "thickens" to prevent injury. As well as granting an AC of Full Plate at +1 to AC per four levels of Stone Mage, the armour also procures Damage Reduction /5 for every +1 to AC. Thus, for +3, DR=15. It is also as light as Leather armour. What else? stav |
| Ouroboros06-09-04, 01:43 PM | but when there isn't any stone around would it be the normal stoneskin spell? |
| Ouroboros06-14-04, 11:55 AM | Well Sil you made it clear you are a big tolkien fan so i am suprised a little that no avalance stone mage power is included just like saruman did :cool: |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-14-04, 08:12 PM | Ahh, yes - Avalanche - sounds like a cool idea Ouro. As well as Delving, Shaping, and using stone as a power source. Earthquake would certaily have to go in there too. I see Stonemages as being able to plunge their hands into stone, and then remove chunks and hurl it at opponents as super-heated molten larva. I also see Stonemages as being able to walk into and through Lava. commens? stav |
| Ouroboros06-15-04, 12:26 PM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Ahh, yes - Avalanche - sounds like a cool idea Ouro. As well as Delving, Shaping, and using stone as a power source. Earthquake would certaily have to go in there too. I see Stonemages as being able to plunge their hands into stone, and then remove chunks and hurl it at opponents as super-heated molten larva. I also see Stonemages as being able to walk into and through Lava. commens? stav What no walk into stone? And lava belongs more into the elemental plane of fire :mage: What about creating some sort of psicrystals? |
| Ukkodin06-15-04, 12:44 PM | How about walking *on top of* lava instead of through? And Pass Through Stone as a special ability accessed x-times per day? How about the following limitation: Should Stonemages multi-class out of the class, they would lose *one* of these abilities. (Not trying to dictate, Silmarien. Just trying to think in terms of balancing them. ;) ) |
| Kazoron Mithrilaxe06-18-04, 09:44 PM | Lava Missiles The Stone mage is able to spend a full-round action summoning up a number of lava missiles equal to his Stone mage level, dealing 1d6 damage with each. The Stone Mage must be surrounded with stone, and can use this ability a number of times per day equal to his Stone Mage level. (Could down the power if the stone mage became a 10-lvl prc instead of 5-lvl) |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-19-04, 01:47 AM | @Ouroborus - :rofl: - yup - we need Walking into Stone. Yes to the other - molten stone involves the *fustion* of Stone and Fire Lore. This seems to make perfect sense to me, because Dwarves love firing Smithies. ...The ancient Dwarf fans the burning furnace of his smithie, as the red glow of coals reflects off his perspiring brow. He carefully removes the molten steel, and pours it into the stone moulds. He pours all his Lore into the Forging, and chants in low baritones as the die is cast. He turns to the Dwarven King, and he looks grim "Lord - we will avenge the Followers of Tempus for the sack and ruin of our ancient halls. @Ukkodin - adds in: Walking On Molten Lava About multiclassing. Important discussion point. The fusion of powers needs to consider game-balance. I'd love to hear your ideas about that. @Mithril I like it. What about "Magicked Molten Lava" - with extra spell-effects embedded in the "Living Fire Stone" - e.g. "Moradin's Power" is in the Lava thus doing double damage against his enemies. Etc. stav |
| JackRipper06-19-04, 09:04 AM | what about summon earth elemental x times a day. Size depending on level. The summoned earth elementals would grow out of the rocks, so it can only be cast when there are rocks nearby. Or give the druid ability 'change to elemental' to the stonemage, only earth elementals allowed. Maybe it's overpowered though, but that depends on how many times a day and how large the elementals would be, and on what other things you give him. Just my thoughts. Do with it what you like. |
| Ouroboros06-20-04, 02:41 PM | Just returned from the dutch elffatasy fair (I only saw one man playing as dwarf there :( For the growing of the earth elemetal the necromancer idea with the growing in power skeleton familiar from unearthy Arcane could work |
| Ouroboros06-27-04, 04:53 AM | Would a dwarf ever drink elven meat? Or orc Krog? ;) |
| Tenzhi06-27-04, 05:38 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros Would a dwarf ever drink elven meat? Mmmm... elven meat... :drool: |
| Silmarien Aldalome06-27-04, 09:31 PM | Originally posted by JackRipper what about summon earth elemental x times a day. Size depending on level. The summoned earth elementals would grow out of the rocks, so it can only be cast when there are rocks nearby. Or give the druid ability 'change to elemental' to the stonemage, only earth elementals allowed. Maybe it's overpowered though, but that depends on how many times a day and how large the elementals would be, and on what other things you give him. Just my thoughts. Do with it what you like. Hi there JackRipper I like the Earth Elemental suggestion. The Size/Level thing is a good way to keep it balanced, methinks. The "morph" ability is also a good one. It reminds me a bit of Tenser's Transformation - which is a way that mages access fighter functions. It seems to me that Dwarf-ish magic would do the same. @Ouro That's I think, meant to be "mead". I'm not sure how seriously Dwarves would resist Elven alcohol. If I think of the Hobbit, the Dwarves weren't into Elven wine at Thranduil's. I imagine that Dwarven taste buds would give them particular leanings, just as we see that cats don't like apples. I'd also reckon some cultural restraints would apply - i.e. "you bring shame on the clan for...." @Tenzhi :rofl: Ever doth the Elf-Bane salivate at the thought of munching Elf-Bone. |
| Auburn07-02-04, 01:37 AM | Are there any official dwarf subraces other than shield, gold, and duergar? |
| Ouroboros07-02-04, 01:48 AM | Hill, MT dwarfs :) to start with from oriental adventures the korobokuru! Emperon comes with new core dwarfs :D And there are many other dwarves: Derro, Atric, Deep, Jungle, Gully ect. (and are mutch better then al does elven sub races:smirk: ) |
| Ukkodin07-02-04, 02:20 PM | Greetings to all!!! :tiphat: I realize it's been a spell since I posted, so I thought I should toss out some thoughts I've had of late. I've always felt that Dwarven-raised dwarves (w/ the possible exception of the Gullys) should be given a bonus skill in the Craft proficiency of their choice, to reflect the clan-based nature of most dwarven cultures. (This was tossed out as an optional rule in the "Complete Dwarf Handbook" for 2E.) The following was inspired by a recent re-viewing of "Two Towers": As a possibility, I also thought that maybe dwarves might also develop a "battle-rage" similar to the barbarian "Berserker" tendency. It would be limited to 1 or 2 enemy races of the dwarf's home stronghold. However, to limit this, they would have to be: 1) a warrior of some sort 2) give up the bonus craft proficiency I suggested earlier, so they could focus their training and attention to this effect. |
| Auburn07-02-04, 11:19 PM | The thing about an extra skill in craft sounds cool. Not sure about the other one though. I've been wondering about some other stuff as well. What type of beer are dwarves more into? By tpe I mean like lagers, ales, and that sort of thing. Are they more into thick beer or thin beer? Also a chicken and an egg type question. Do you think dwarves can drink so much because of the resistance to poison, or do you think dwarves can resist poison because they drink so much? |
| Auburn07-02-04, 11:51 PM | I would like to call the attention of our membership to a potentially valuable thread about Dwarven consumables entitled "Dwarven Food". If you haven't checked it out, it is potentially worth your time. Here's the link: I think they've mostly got the right idea. Probably have shepherd and goatherds made of those too young to be learning a craft. Some adult farmers above ground who supervise farming and brewering. Journeymen brewers help them do most of the brewing. Aprrentice brewers do most of the farm labor. Large dwarf holds would have an underground pond or lake as a reservoir, and it would be stocked with fish. Fungi would be a major part. In certain areas maybe rice with the paddies also providing a home for poultry and some edible reptiles/amphibians/fish. Bees for honey to sweeten things. Dwarf settlements with warboar cavalry would probably have many swine with the best kept for training as cavalry and kept for breeding and milk while the rest are eaten. Maybe less of an emphasis on bread with most grain being made into a thick beer which can be drunk as a meal. |
| Auburn07-03-04, 12:10 AM | As much as I would love to say that you can survive on beer, it’s not true. You do get some nutrients but not enough. I remember reading an article on is subject. You would need to drink over a gallon of beer an hour and still would need some vitamins to meet your daily requirements. Sorry I don't know. I've read a few (one in The Economist; an old issue but one I could find given a few days) that say humans first started raising grains because it gave them a steady supply of beer and not for making bread which is the traditional explanation. Now this ancient beer was about as thick as a milkshake according to the article which means you don't have to dirnk as much for nourishment which is good since a human couldn't drink much. A dwarf on the other hand could likely drink several of even these beers because dwarves are just that cool. Being the master brewers that they are I wouldn't be surprised if there was food beer for breakfast and lunch followed by an evening meal of food accompanied by the drinking beer found in dwarven taverns. My take though. I'll try to dig up that article and give it another look. I'm sure if you could possibly have a meal in a mug that the dwarves have done it. Also can I join the Foundation? |
| Auburn07-03-04, 12:48 AM | 1) Beards on the ladies, yea or nay? Nay. 2) Dwarven Druids. What are they like? Has anybody played one? If so, what was the character like? Sometimes they're okay, and sometimes they aren't. The okay ones either live underground and help protect the nature from the evil creatures under the surface of the earth, or they live above ground without much contact with elves. The underground ones make everyone's life better by combatting the many evils in the caves. The above ground ones often find interesting new ways to make beer. The above ground ones that spend too much time around elves bcome wierd sometimes. 3) Posted outside the foundation, but worthy: Dwarves and alcohol: Do dwarves have a higher resistance to getting drunk? How potent are their brews? Dwarves have mighty powers for purification of their bodies and as such are more resistant to becoming intoxicated. Dwarven brews can be potent, but I don't think many dwarves normally make hard liquors. Its simply a waste to make a hard liquor when you could be making beer. 4) Dwarven cuisine: Types of food, dishes, drinks (both ale and other). On a related note, is there such a thing as a dwarven vegetarian? My tendency would be to say probably not, but what do other people say? Dwarven vegetarians exist, but they're often a bit wierd because most are druids who spend too much time around elves. Most normal dwarves like a little bit of everything, but those dvoted to lots of work might only eat fungus and beer since they might not have time for much agriculture. 5) Expansion of Dwarven Society: I realize that dwarves have a tendency to have low-birthrates, but surely they're above just a sustaining population (outside of a constant war zone)? How do dwarves feel about adopting orphans from other races? ie: An elf child is orphaned when his parents are caught in a landslide while the family is moving through the mountains to another elven enclave. (And it could be any race's children.) I realize that the physical maturity rate of some of the races would tend to affect how easily the adoption would be accepted, but it is an interesting question nonetheless. Aye most dwarven communities have a higher than replacement rate as far as birth rates go. The problem is that dwarves shoulder much of the burden in fighting monstrous races because of where they live, and many of these monsters breed faster than dwarves. In places where other races shoulder their load dwarves do much better, but sadly in many worlds all that stands between civilization and the monsters is a thin dwarven line. Most dwarves will care for children of other races, but generally most orphans adopted by dwarves become sort of children of the community with the temple doing the main amount of rearing. If a dwarven community is friends with a good community of the same race though they'll try to get the child to them. |
| Ouroboros07-03-04, 05:48 AM | Who who there Auburn save you energie :) you can join just give me a sec.. As for your dwarf, posion, alchol question i think they get resitance agaist posion for drinking |
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| Ouroboros07-11-04, 10:52 AM | Well i don't have a better subject more ale! this tread is dying! from the ARMS AND EQUIPMENT GUIDE Alcohol is a depressant that reduces judgment and coordination. Every time a character consumes an entire alcoloc beverage (a glass of wine, a tankard of beer, or a jigger of any spirit) they make a Fortitude save at no penalty, with the DC determined by the type of alcohol (list below) This is if the drinker tries to avoid getting intoxicated. The first drink in a hour doesn't have no penalty on the Fortitude save. The second drink in that same hour is drunken with a -1 penalty, the third -2, fourth -4 and so on. So by spacing time to drink could be used to avoid getting drunk. On a failed save the drinker takes 1d2 temporary ability damage to wisdam and dexterity. On a 0 wis the drinker passes out/ on a 0 Dex collapes into a drunken mess but remains consiousness. If both scores drop to 0 the drinker could get alcohol poisoning. Make a Fort save agaist the strongest drink the drinker drunk that hour on a failed roll the drinker loses 1 temporary constitution point every 10 minutes until death or removel of the alcohol (remove posion) lost abilty points are regained by 1 point a hour (remove posion removes alcohol effect but not the hangover) Alcohol Type DC Wine, Common 11 Wine, Fortified 12 Ale, weak 10 Ale, Common 11 Ale, Stout 12 Ale, Dwarven:D 13 Typical Spirits (Whiskey, Rum, Gin) 11 Very Strong Spirits 13 Dangerously Strong Spirits 15 Does anybody uses a other drunken machine system let us know:angel: |
| TheJester from Winchester07-11-04, 11:16 AM | Well lads I've been on a right few adventures spreading to the world your vast stories of conquest and wealth, but thats just a bards tale. Anyway im back and looking forward to reading more great threads and hope to input some of my own. |
| Ukkodin07-12-04, 12:55 PM | I'm sorry, Ouroboros, for not posting more; this foundation is something worthy as a source of information for people looking for inspiration involving dwarven characters. Along thes lines (and my role as Keeper of Dwarven Lore), I shall put forth some more ideas involving lore: It has been suggested in certain documents that when a dwarf defies his family, he/she defies their clan. As part of that, such an individual would very likely be cast out, and, hence, exiled for the deeds. Since clans are as important as family to a dwarf, what are some of the deeds that might cause this rather extreme type of punishment? How would/should a dwarf react to somebody screwing up a famous dwarven tale? Since family and clan are so important to (most) dwarves, how would they react to being referred to as "What's their name?"? Some words that have been suggested as being particularly insulting to dwarves include: Axe-breaking Beardless Friendless Goblin-spawn Hearth-hating Moss-bearded Pebble Pixie Tool-snatching Those are just a few of the insults from an Insult Table I have access to. (It's set up as a potential Random Insult generator in three columns. I have not posted the entire table for two reasons: 1) It's extensive, and I don't have the time at the moment; 2) There are some "insults" that, given the peace that reigns between dwarf and elf, would be better left out...) If the entire table is desired, I shall happily post it. For those who want it before I can post it, look to page 88 in Dragon #245, in the article on Dwarven etiquette. |
| Mineral07-15-04, 10:46 AM | Hey guys, I'm pretty new around here, although I've been lurking for a little while. Dwarven was clerics have been my bread and butter traditionally. Heck, all of Dwarfdom has held a special place in my heart since I first began in AD&D years ago. So basically, I'd like to apply to this Dwarven Foundation. |
| Ouroboros07-15-04, 12:08 PM | Good one Ukkodin I liked moss-beard :b: Welcome to the foundation Mineral! |
| Mineral07-15-04, 12:21 PM | Thanks Ouro - glad to be here! |
| Auburn07-15-04, 01:32 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin It has been suggested in certain documents that when a dwarf defies his family, he/she defies their clan. As part of that, such an individual would very likely be cast out, and, hence, exiled for the deeds. Since clans are as important as family to a dwarf, what are some of the deeds that might cause this rather extreme type of punishment? Any sort of major crime in the real world basically I think would probably get it. Murder, massive/repeated theft, and that sort of thing. Perhaps a failure to take care of your responsibilities to the clan such as failure to take care of elderly family members or being a dead beat dad. You've behaved in a way the family and clan can't possibly endorse so they exile you. Perhaps obvious cowardice in battle. That said do you think there should be a way to rejoin your clan or at least join another clan. I've always thought that an action that exmplified ideal dwarven behavior might allow you to earn your way back in. Volunteeing for a crucial role in a dangerous part of a battle. Or perhaps some sort of religious order for the clanless that is ran by a dwarven faith. Perhaps a few years of good service in the order demonstrates that the clanless dwarf has learned how to behave correctly, and as such deserves another chance. What are your thoughts? Can you earn your way back into a clan or not? If you can how? How would/should a dwarf react to somebody screwing up a famous dwarven tale? I think everyone will be cool with it if the change is for the better. If Torgar Goblinsbane singlehandedly defeats two red dragons in battle instead of the one he actually did then I don't think anyone will care. Repeated screw ups for the worse though would likely be looked down upon. If the dwarf thought it was accidental perhaps it'd only warrant a boo or a thrown piece of food. If the dwarf thought it was intentional then perhaps the dwarf might challenge the person on it since the person seems to be intentionally insulting all dwarves. Beardless Goblinspawn would be an awesome insult. |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-16-04, 10:45 PM | Cool discussion. Crime & Punishment in Dwarven communities, hey... hmmm Some words that come to mind Fidelity - to the group Loyalty - to the group Courage Dignity Pride All with Dwarvish twists. I'm sure there'd be Dwarvish Laws as well. Maybe not codified into a whole legal system (like us) - but maybe more informal - public gatherings, Councils of Elders maybe. I don't see Dwarves using death penalties. But - maybe public rituals of humiliation like expulsion from the group. Stripping a family of wealth for betrayal. A curse on a family. A vow that transcends life and death to last millenia. Betrayal in battle would, maybe be a particularly heinous crime to a Dwarf. stav |
| Tenzhi07-16-04, 11:08 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin Some words that have been suggested as being particularly insulting to dwarves include: Axe-breaking Beardless Friendless Goblin-spawn Hearth-hating Moss-bearded Pebble Pixie Tool-snatching Of course, the most dire insult for a dwarf is to call him an Elf. |
| Mineral07-16-04, 11:59 PM | Public rituals of humiliation - perhaps the ultimate in all punishments could be expulsion from the clan (I think that's been mentioned before) after a most dire ritual: The Ritual of Beard Cutting? Now that's humiliation. |
| Auburn07-17-04, 01:53 AM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome Maybe not codified into a whole legal system (like us) - but maybe more informal - public gatherings, Councils of Elders maybe. That's an interesting point. Just who would be the court system? Family, Government, or Church? Someone else? All at once? I don't see Dwarves using death penalties. But - maybe public rituals of humiliation like expulsion from the group. I agree about the death penalty thing. Being alone in a DnD type world is a frightening prospect in its own right. |
| turalisj07-17-04, 05:06 AM | an insult to a dwarf would be to call him a gnome with a hair problem. also something that im wondering...do dwarfe women have beards? |
| Mineral07-17-04, 10:38 AM | Originally posted by Auburn That's an interesting point. Just who would be the court system? Family, Government, or Church? Someone else? All at once? It's always seemed to me that the larger family setting ala the Clan has been intertwined with the Government of the Dwarves. I would envision Clan Elders of a sort, perhaps? |
| Ouroboros07-18-04, 10:10 AM | Originally posted by turalisj an insult to a dwarf would be to call him a gnome with a hair problem. also something that im wondering...do dwarfe women have beards? That is no real insult the hairproblem is but not the gnome. dwarven woman have beards... if you want to |
| Ouroboros07-18-04, 10:14 AM | Originally posted by Tenzhi Of course, the most dire insult for a dwarf is to call him an Elf. No Drow! you are a dugear elf So any good grey dwarf insults? Dwarven snoozer? Hilly? |
| Mineral07-18-04, 11:22 AM | Originally posted by Ouroboros No Drow! you are a dugear elf! Yeah that's great! Heck Dwarves could call all of the darker, evillerish versions of the races "dugear" versions. |
| TheJester from Winchester07-18-04, 03:26 PM | Duergar is the correct spelling. |
| Silmarien Aldalome07-19-04, 08:49 PM | Originally posted by Tenzhi Of course, the most dire insult for a dwarf is to call him an Elf. :rofl: Beard-cutting - fully. A punishment of the highest order - incured by Treason against the Dwarven Sovereign! Other insults: - You cavort with Elvendom. - You smell like an Elf - Your magic is Elfy - Your beard is short stav |
| Ouroboros07-20-04, 12:08 PM | Know a other: gnomish pudle, Mull, |
| Ouroboros07-25-04, 02:40 AM | Originally posted by Silmarien Aldalome : - Your beard is short That is not a insult if you are a ebberon dwarf man is his beard short http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/eb_gallery/82085.jpg |
| turalisj07-25-04, 03:35 AM | highest punishment-having to live with elves for the rest of their life or having their beard waxed off |
| Ouroboros07-25-04, 08:19 AM | living with elfs not hardly living with merfolk that would be bad |
| turalisj07-25-04, 05:03 PM | or stick em with illithids |
| Ukkodin07-26-04, 12:34 PM | Originally posted by turalisj or stick em with illithids ...on their own, in Illithid territory, without even an axe to their name, let alone their beards. :eek: |
| ThorinBroadspear07-28-04, 01:36 AM | Greatings all, I'm new to the place, me first day here. |
| Ouroboros07-28-04, 11:58 AM | Welcome ThorinBroadspear please tell me more about yourself and if you want to join the foundation of the dwarves just ask |
| Ukkodin07-28-04, 12:38 PM | Originally posted by Ukkodin ...on their own, in Illithid territory, without even an axe to their name, let alone their beards. :eek: Oooo... Minor inspiration: Perhaps, if they survive such an exile for a specified period of time, might the clan allow for a probationary re-entry to the fold, as sort of a second chance? |
| ThorinBroadspear07-28-04, 10:30 PM | Yes, I would like to join the Guild. We're all drawfs right? Just tell me what to do... Are you like the leader here admiral? |
| Ouroboros07-29-04, 01:04 PM | Elliot Quincy Fanypants III 'Lord of the Dwarven Foundation' Ouroboros 'Admiral of the Dwarven Forces' Spellhead Laup Steelhart el kapeetann piwi Anthor Del Niera ozgood the traveller Dolian Graniteroot tj333 Night Watchman Ukkodin 'Keeper of Dwarven lore' Dwarven Smith Corius Ra'vien ranger182 weaponsmith Endur Stonehelm Giant Donkey Kong SwordMaster The Ultimate Dragongod MDMRippley Inflicted Groselhoman JL3712 Gnaipnur Durth Grumbar Ironfist Robur Swordswinger 'Duergar Paladin' Arhkan the Black KumaKhan HighCleric Niglemaz vash the fighter AegisBane raggerd TracerBullet7 Kazoron Mithrilaxe kgmiller Two-Faced Halfling Gaven Obryn Darkfell Chipperagwa Jimmy Teark strombringer Argsnoth Forgesmith SmilingTyrant JackRipper 'Holder of the Bloodaxe' HammerFist Freaking_Pirate Dalmor ShadowSoul shortstak37 Captain Longsword Frostbite_Ravenheart TheJester from Winchester King Gromphf Goldstein Nos-4-A2 Noth little black bill BrianMc223 Oskar Lightfoot (Malgrim Vartek) Rose Madder LizardRider (Scholar of DragonLore) fiendish_servant (Rage Master) Vrain Runeseeker FC_Shredder (Cleric of Haela Brightaxe) CaptMeathead 'Master of spice and meat' Silmarien Aldalome "Half-Elf Foundation Leader and a mighty allie of the dwarven race" Zyme86 Azer Firelord Auburn Mineral ThorinBroadspear As second in comand of the dwarven foundation I welcome you as a brother (or is it sister) And yes evrybody calls me the leader so |
| Auburn07-30-04, 01:17 AM | What do you have to do to gain one of those cool titles? |
| Ouroboros07-30-04, 12:00 PM | Just post in this foundation titles are earned if you roleplay or intresssted that you posted in the foundation (if you talk mutch about beards you could get a barberer title ect.) or you can just ask for a title :D |
| turalisj07-30-04, 02:34 PM | you could just dip their beard in lead so it would be too heavy to move and have them fight in the water (in full armor) against a sea elf (or a bronze dragon) |
| Ouroboros07-30-04, 02:36 PM | Why is it that dying in a battle you can not win is somthing dishonorble? Don't think so |
| turalisj07-30-04, 07:06 PM | ok..then just wax off his beard...send him into a illithids city.....and put a 'call me shorty' sign on his/her back!!!! |
| El Chipperagwa Jimmy07-30-04, 07:35 PM | ok..then just wax off his beard...send him into a illithids city.....and put a 'call me shorty' sign on his/her back!!!! That would be just plain mean. Who would deserve that? |
| ThorinBroadspear07-31-04, 12:42 AM | OK, I back, man there must be a huge time difference here... Well what exaclty do we do here? |
| Tenzhi07-31-04, 03:30 AM | Originally posted by El Chipperagwa Jimmy That would be just plain mean. Who would deserve that? An elf that was polymorphed into a dwarf. |
| El Chipperagwa Jimmy07-31-04, 09:31 AM | That would do it. |
| Auburn08-01-04, 02:54 AM | Recently I started thinking about an order for dwarf monks. Here’s what I’ve got. Not really any crunch here so feel free to add feats, PrCs, and such as you like. I don’t think dwarves would normally become monks or learn monk type fighting. Why do that when you can just be a normal fighter or cleric? However, a dwarf might be thrown out of his clan as punishment for certain crimes. Eventually said dwarf might wish to get back into a clan, and I think becoming a monk might be a way to accomplish this. The dedication to his order and years of training shows clan elders that this dwarf has changed his ways and deserves a second chance. I think dwarf monks would probably have methods of fighting that are different than those of the other races. The way I see it most of the strategy of a dwarf monk would rely on avoiding being hit. Then when his opponent makes a mistake in the fight the dwarf would deliver a decisive blow. It’d probably be focused around grabbing an arm or leg and then trying to break it by bending it at an odd angle and at a high rate of speed. Really more of a focus on incapacitating an enemy with one attack than on knocking them out with multiple punchs and kicks. Finally since I thought a dwarf would only study as a monk in order to prove their desire to rejoin a clan I decided they probably needed some rules they’d follow. I think a dwarf monastery would be established away from major dwarf settlements. It would be built above ground because the monks view below ground to be the normal place for a dwarf settlement, and thus do not believe themselves worthy to live below ground. Dwarf monks would go out of their way not to have contact with the rest of dwarf society in most cases, but if a dwarf settlement was in danger I think the monastery would lend all the support they could to the settlement. The only contact they would have with normal dwarf society would be a cleric or clerics from the dwarven goddess of the family who would not actually be monks because even the clanless dwarves would be seen as a part of the overall family of all dwarves everywhere. There might be lay priests of other dwarf deities in the monastery who are also monks, but only clerics of that particular deity. I think that the dwarf monks would probably shave their beards and abstain from working metal, making/drinking beer, and using any weapons. The monks believe that these things are some of the defining traits of proper dwarven society, and prevent themselves (dwarves who have been kicked out of their clans) from enjoying these things as a way to show their desire to rejoin normal dwarven society. Dwarves in the monasteries spend their time studying fighting, in prayer, and growing food. An established monastery almost always has a surplus of food that it exports to support itself. Eventually the leaders of the monastery pronounce a dwarf to have progressed enough in his studies to be ready to rejoin a clan. At this point the dwarf in question can try to rejoin a clan or not. If he decides to rejoin a clan the cleric/clerics present in the monastery try to find a clan to accept this dwarf. These dwarves typically refrain from using their combat skills learned as monks in all but the most extreme situations. Even though they have been accepted back into the clan there is still a measure of shame over being kicked out of the clan, and so they hide their past from other dwarves in the clan. If the dwarf decides not to rejoin a clan he becomes one of the leaders of the monastery at which point he still has to maintain the practices of the monastery but is no longer viewed as clanless by normal dwarven society. Overall the monasteries operate independently with each monastery’s leaders making decisions for it as a council where every member has an equal vote. Leaders from each monastery are regarded as equals regardless of time as a leader or combat skill. The proper name for this order is the Order of the Clanless. Adventuring is neither common nor uncommon among dwarf monks of the Order of the Clanless. It happens enough not to be unusual but not enough for many monks of the order to do it. The adventurers from the order are almost always monks who are still viewed as clanless by normal dwarven society. These dwarves are usually the only dwarf in any group of adventurers due to their avoidance of regular dwarf society. They will bow out of a group that they have belonged to for a long time if a dwarf from normal dwarf society wishes to join. Monks of the order will refuse to enter dwarven settlements outside of times of battle, and they will leave adventuring groups to aid dwarven settlements in need of warriors if these groups do not agree to help as a whole. Leaders of the monasteries feel that monks of the order who are adventuring are working their way back towards normal dwarven society so a monk may return from adventuring to find that he can rejoin a clan if he wishes to. So what do you think? |
| turalisj08-01-04, 03:04 AM | or polymorph a dwarf to a elf and use the permanant spell on him then mail him second class to tenzhi's (or my) lair *stomach gworls at the thought* |
| turalisj08-01-04, 03:07 AM | Originally posted by Ukkodin Oooo... Minor inspiration: Perhaps, if they survive such an exile for a specified period of time, might the clan allow for a probationary re-entry to the fold, as sort of a second chance? and have them bring back the head of an illithid |
| Ouroboros08-01-04, 11:59 AM | That are some excellent ideas Auburn but why should a dwarf hide it's monk training? Monks can train other dwarves in there clan to fight without a weapon as a last resort. Or doing jobs no honorable dwarf would dare do. Ambushing orcs and throw them of the cliffs (dwarven stability helps) throw annoying elves of the cliff (to save the union between dwarf and elf this must remain secret ;) ) Just because something’s aren’t seen in dwarven clans doesn't mean it doesn't exist |
| Auburn08-01-04, 03:38 PM | That's a good point. Where I was coming from was that a person in our society who had been in prison, but who was now a respected member of society wouldn't advertise the fact that he had once been a criminal. I didn't think that these dwarves would want to advertise that they had been clanless at one time even if they no longer were. It could very well be that this is a time where our society isn't a good example of how another society might behave. As you pointed out they have learned skills that would be useful to normal dwarf society. I wonder now if perhaps they might be seen as pillars of devotion and faith once they have reentered normal dwarven society. After all they had presumably been kicked out of their clan for some heinous act, but they desired forgiveness so much that they were willing to give up a significant portion of their life to gain it. Perhaps normal dwarves might be able to respect these dwarves because they had worked so hard to overcome their past misdeeds and regain entry into a clan. |
| JackRipper08-01-04, 09:24 PM | All the talk about punishment and exile seems to discomfort Garth, Holder of the Bloodaxe, a bit, as he tenses his lips around his pipe and wiggles heavily on his chair. Memories of long past times blur his mind and his eyes wander of. For minutes, he sits their thinking about his exile from his clan, and how he made it back into the dwarven society, and about all the events in between. Then, his thoughts wander of from his own history with the off-wandering wizard who blessed him with Bloodaxe the last time he met him. He realises he can only guess what must have happened to him, even though the wizard sure did tell him they would meet again. He digs deeper into his memory, but then... ...all in a sudden, he chokes in his pipe and looks around at the turmoil in the inn. After a moment of rehabilitation, he thinks about the thoughts he was just burdened with, and realised it is time for some taletelling, as per true dwarven traditions. With all these new and widely-traveled members of the foundation, there must be fresh and new tales from glorious deeds and brave people. He raises his voice after he climbs up the nearest table and clears his throath one last time after the pipe-incident. Good day to all of you, my brothers and sisters, friends and guests from far-away places, knights and nobles akin! Forgive me for my intrusive manners, but I see that, with all these gathered peoples attending this fine dwarven inn, this could be a mighty fine time for tale-tellin', my friends! We are all here because of eachother's company and friendship, and let me note that we all have done a fine job at achieving that, but at the same I want to add that we have not heard some of you sharin' us your tales! And this be a great pity for me and for all of us, as by the looks of yer faces and by the sounds of yer tongues I can tell that some of you have heard of or went on adventures and missions of hero's! Let us not waste further times on my ramblings, and instead I want to invite any of you to stand here in my place and tell us your tale if ye want! Be it poem, song or tale in earth, we will appreciate all if it gives us some insight on those who have joined our foundation and their blood line! Tell us dwarven tales by dwarven customes!! Garth raises a mug and makes place for someone else to climb up the table and share his tale. (just thought it would be cool if those who have or had or know of or think out at the spot some dwarven character's history or tales about dwarven matters like clans, battles and such things. It would likewise be cool if their would be some attempts at imitations of true dwarven literature, and possibly these two could even be combined. So songs, tales, poems etc; anything that dwarves could have created and is literature or just a tale; I'd like to see it, as it could even be useful for our campaigns to add some flavour and such. Hoped that this post could be a good start for some new type of posts... bring it on... ):) |
| turalisj08-01-04, 10:36 PM | heres a question- wat are yor opinions on the worst things adwraf could do besides the usaul mureder etc |
| Ouroboros08-02-04, 01:27 AM | JackRipper: You are a good citisian and showing that you still regret some of the deeds you have done shows it. Like law a dwarf had to change at times and if mistakes are ignored so will be the lives of others. heres a question- wat are yor opinions on the worst things adwraf could do besides the usaul mureder etc breaking the body or mind of a other in other words if youre victem can't work again by youre doing (breaking the back of a fellow dwarf, can he or she work like it did before no) |
| Auburn08-02-04, 04:14 AM | As Garth sits another dwarf rises from his seat. His face shows that he is an old dwarf. It comes as no surprise then when he takes a few moments to organize his thoughts, but no one minds as his long life has earned him the right to some thought before he speaks. I’ve not traveled as much as many here tonight. However, I have put some effort into trying to always remember the many tales I’ve heard in my days. The one that comes to mind right now is a story I heard in a dwarven city named Ironmaster years ago. Years ago when we were not so many as we are today many small dwarven holds were in danger of disappearing not from attack but because the few young people about in these small holds wished to leave to explore the wider worlds and see larger settlements. One was the small hold named Copper Caves. Dwarves had come to mine the caves of their copper. The settlement was never large because most dwarves wished to work with richer metal than copper. As the years went on there was less copper to mine, and all the young dwarves had left Copper Caves for better opportunities elsewhere. The town's population eventually mined all of the copper from Copper Caves, and they were left with a huge cavern where once many caves had been. All that supported the cavern roof was a single pillar of rock. There were other smaller pillars, but without the large pillar they could not hope to support the weight of the roof. This cavern opened directly onto the surface like a huge mouth opening in the earth. The few remaining dwarves in Copper Caves had amassed a small fortune through the copper mining, and they were very old. Copper Caves was their home, and they could afford to buy food from a nearby farm owned by a gnome so they stayed in Copper Caves. They passed their time by experimenting in brewery and giving advice to any adventurers who passed through the area. All was uneventful until one day a huge storm giant came upon them. |
| Auburn08-02-04, 04:18 AM | The storm giant wasn’t very smart, and the dwarves easily spotted him before he saw Copper Caves. The dwarves held a meeting on what to do. “We’re too old and too few to defeat him,” said one. “We can’t just flee our homes in terror because of a single giant,” said another. “I have a plan,” said a third dwarf by the name of Ivan Hammerforger. Ivan had long been a noted trickster because he alone of all the dwarves in Copper Caves could confound the local gnome farmer with riddles and surprise him with tricks. Knowing that Ivan could trick a gnome made the dwarves of Copper Caves certain he could trick the storm giant, and so it was decided that Ivan’s plan would be attempted. This happened not a moment too soon because a mighty voice was heard bellowing. “I am Urstuk the Destroyer, and I have come to eat all the little dwarves of Copper Caves,” cried the storm giant. Before he could act Ivan said, “You could eat us, but then you’d never get our hidden gold.” Urstuk was as intrigued and he said, “What hidden gold?” “Our hidden gold,” replied Ivan. “We are dwarves, and we do have a fortune in hidden gold like any good dwarves. Now you could eat us, but you’ll never get the gold then. However, I’m willing to make you a deal. You pass one simple test for us, and we’ll give you our hidden gold. Then you can do with us as you wish. Of course I don’t think you’ll pass. You look like a weak giant. Other giants would probably be strong enough to do it, but I don’t think you can.” “I can pass your little test dwarf. I’m Urstuk the Destroyer.” “Alright then. You see that great stone column inside the cavern? We’ve long had a bet on whether or not a storm giant could hold the cavern roof up if the column were collapsed. I don’t think one can, but my friends say different. We’ve often nearly come to blows over this bet, and now we have a storm giant to help us settle the bet.” “I can hold up this roof easily even after that pitiful column is destroyed. You’re going to lose your bet, and I’m going to get gold and a meal.” With that Urstuk went to the great stone column. He spread his arms out under the cavern roof, and kicked the column. It collapsed, and for a moment Urstuk fought the weight of the great cavern roof. He managed to hold the roof up and demanded the dwarven gold. “You’ll get no gold Urstuk the Stupid, and you’ll get no meal either. Move an inch, and the cavern will collapse upon your head,” said Ivan. Urstuk spent the following days trying to figure out a way to escape but because he was a stupid storm giant he could not. Eventually an adventuring party passed by Copper Caves, and the dwarves paid a wizard who was a member of the group to turn Urstuk into stone. By this time Copper Caves had achieved some minor fame due to its giant, and its many unique brews. This fame grew with time, and every the dwarves in Copper Caves opened inns, taverns, and breweries to serve the various people who had come to view Urstuk and sample their beer. Many of the younger dwarves who had left returned to help with the new family businesses, and Copper Caves grew from a small hold to a small dwarven city. Copper Caves was eventually renamed Urstuk because all the dwarves agreed Urstuk was far more responsible for the settlement’s success than the copper ever was, and all the dwarves of Urstuk agreed that giants, even stupid ones, were sometimes useful. His story ended the old dwarf returned to his seat and his drink. |
| edveal08-05-04, 12:14 PM | I am looking for some good Fantacy books where the main character is a dwarf... I am so tierd of Elvs and Human's rulling the liturature. Any good sugestions? |
| edveal08-05-04, 12:14 PM | I am looking for some good Fantacy books where the main character is a dwarf... I am so tierd of Elvs and Human's rulling the liturature. Any good sugestions? |
| JackRipper08-05-04, 05:31 PM | "Ye hit the nail on the head, me laddie! And that's what we're changin' over here right now! Look at Auburn's magnificent tale 'bout Ivan and the Storm Giant! I cannay give ye any suggestions but I ain't no librarian for that matter, but I be sure there are some around here." That said, Garth's look crosses the entire room and he asks someone to help out our guest. Then, he continues and states, somewhat surprised but certainly filled with sarcasm: "Well, that's it then? This wasn't a bedsite tale so no need to start sleeping, everybody! Who's next? As our guest said; we need to create some real literature of our own; dwarven literature with dwarven hero's! Give it a shot! Poems, songs, tales or whatever it is ye bring; it's all welcome!" EDIT: Through the turmoil, Garth suddenly hears a voice, the voice of Turalisj, and his question makes him think again. The young lad (just pretending you are :P) should know about the hard laws of the dwarves, lest he is bound to make the same mistake as I once did, and many others with me. "Well then, young lad, ye must understand that murder is not something to be taken lightly. A true murderer is in no way a true dwarve, and...", Garth takes a moment to clear his throat, as if he is ashamed, "well, he should not be allowed as such, so he gets cast out; the worst penalty of a dwarve. Sometimes they attone however, albeit the scars left due to the shame brought upon him and his family will never truly heal; you must take that from me. But to think of something even more horrible... treason, or perhaps betrayal or cowering from ones duties through desertion are things with equally serious consequences. Those are not the way of the dwarve, and casting the sinners of those crimes out is the only way for punishment. But something more horendous then murder is not within my imagination, good lad. Just know ye should never commit any of those!" Garth takes his pipe again and waits for another taleteller to come up. |
| Sacrusha08-20-04, 12:48 PM | Since this is the dwarven foundation you can certainly help me. I need good links about dwarven life, dwarves in the forgotten realms, dwarf history in the forgotten realm, dwarf behaviour, etc. Many thanks in advance! |
| turalisj08-20-04, 02:33 PM | all i know is that they dont taste good. ;) |