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Dyne 11-21-04, 04:21 PM	Ahead of you stands a grand castle, with 20 ft. high walls and six towers guarding the perimeter. Atop each tower waves the banner of Cormyr, a white cloth with a purple dragon in the center. Men patrol the walls and the courtyard, each one wearing a white surcoat and bearing the royal crest of Cormyr. As you approach the gate, it opens for you, and you are greeted by five men, each one distinguished from the soldiers by his cloak, four of them purple and the other white. The leader, a strong man with a purple cloak, greets you. "Welcome to Castle Crag. I am Helm Dundragon, and I command the Purple Dragons. Here is where my soldiers reside, protecting the northern border of Cormyr from invaders. If you wish to join our ranks, you are very welcome. We welcome all stout combatants who are loyal to Cormyr and unhesitant in protecting it. We also welcome Clerics to heal our wounded and arcane spellcasters to join our detachment of War Wizards. Come as you are, and stem the tide of invaders." Welcome to the Purple Dragons. This is a foundation inspired by the army of Cormyr from the Forgotten Realms campaign setting. We are dedicated fighting men who are dedicated to upholding justice and peace. We accept all who wish to join the ranks of Purple Dragons. But, those who are nonchaotic and nonevil are most favored, and are eligible to become a Purple Dragon Knight, a leader of the Purple Dragons. Member's List: Dyne Chosen of the Dark Sun Thasis (the Good) Xen155 Holy_Man Mr_GrinReaper Turalisj Soldier Roster: Bren Dundragon: Paladin 5/Marshal 5/Purple Dragon Knight 5 (Dyne) Dorn Tallstag: Marshal 8/Purple Dragon Knight 4 (Bren's cohort) Darvin Greycastle: Paladin 6/Fighter 2/Purple Dragon Knight 2 (Dorn's cohort) Evendur Amblecrown: Paladin 6/Purple Dragon Knight 2 (Darvin's cohort) Stedd Buckman: Paladin3/Cleric 3 (Evendur's cohort) Morn Evenwood: Wizard 4 (Stedd's cohort) 1 5th-level soldier 2 4th-level soldier 3 3rd-level soldier 6 2nd-level soldiers 78 1st-level soldiers Keld Warstrike: Marshall 11 (Chosen of the Dark Sun) Bangh: Sorcerer 11 (Keld's cohort) T'nyagah: Paladin 9 (Bangh's cohort) Nyamar: Monk 8 (T'nyagah's cohort) 1 4th-level soldier 2 3rd-level soldiers 6 2nd-level soldiers 60 1st-level soldiers Agen: Fighter 4 (Piilis's cohort) War Wizards: Xen: Wizard 9/Verse Master 7 (Xen155) Jokai: Sorcerer 14 (Xen's cohort) Dudone: Sorcerer 12 (Jokai's cohort) Talsue: Wizard 5/Lore Master 5 (Dudone's cohort) Magnulf: Wizard 8 (Talsue's chort) Scouts: Piilis: Rogue 6 (Magnulf's cohort) Graveyard: Helm Dundragon: Paladin 6/Purple Dragon Knight 4/Divine Champion 5 (Dyne) Current Projects: Purple Dragon High Knight PrC (need a different name) Favored of the Purple Dragon PrC Artifact
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-21-04, 06:26 PM	Yo, Dyne, I'll join the Order. What is needed of me? ;)
Dyne 11-21-04, 06:38 PM	Yo, Dyne, I'll join the Order. What is needed of me? ;) I'm not sure. The foundation is based off the Purple Dragons of Cormyr in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, which are mainly Lawful and Good. So, I guess this can function as a sort of Fighter's Guild and we can discuss things pertaining to combat, Law, Good, and the Guild Wars. CotDS, are you participating in the Guild Wars? If so, I need to know what your stats and such are.
Demonfey 11-21-04, 06:44 PM	I will have no problem with all of you, just as long as they do not meddle in my affairs.
Dyne 11-21-04, 06:49 PM	I will have no problem with all of you, just as long as they do not meddle in my affairs. "We are keepers of justice and peace. If you threaten those who we are sworn to protect, we will not tolerate you. Otherwise, you have nothing to fear from us."
Demonfey 11-21-04, 06:50 PM	But what defines your sense of justice? Is it simply not being evil? Or is it more complex?
Dyne 11-21-04, 06:54 PM	But what defines your sense of justice? Is it simply not being evil? Or is it more complex? "Justice is the punishment to those who violate our laws. If you unjustly cause harm to another person, you are subject to our just wrath. If you threaten the lands of Cormyr or our beloved leader, you are subject to our vengeance. Do not cross us, and we will not harm you."
Silmarien Aldalome 11-21-04, 06:59 PM	*go DYNE* Silmarien sees the banner of The Purple Dragon fly in the breeze and the Knights of the Order - and their Chieftain Helm Dundragon, whose shining armour gleams in the sunlight. Sil marches up to the front of the Keep and hands the Sentry the following letter Lord Helm Dundragon, It is with some urgency that I write to thee. Realmspace is haunted by the Minions of Evil and the Dark Lord's avatar walks the lands, in defiance of the Eternal Prison and in defiance of Mythal Arnandahar. Further, a new evil walks the lands - this "Skygge" - which is some servant of the Shadow World whose banefires are a cruelty and defilement of all good beings' auras. At our halls, we have discovered new Lore, and that brings me to my purpose for writing to you. I would give my life to spare the world from evil and the Pereldar seek your allegiance, that we, together with the Guild of Pure Good and The Council of Archmages, may stem the tide of evil and protect the lands from a second ruination. For, 10,000 years ago, all was burned, runined or damned, 'ere the Dark Lord was Imprisoned and I fear the Shadow seeks to sieze the throne and impose tyranny on us all. When you have made your decision - please advise the Pereldar. Your Servant Silmarien
Demonfey 11-21-04, 07:02 PM	Very well. Here is a gift of goodwill, then. {With that, black flame shoots from his arm, and an area of dirt becomes a bastard sword made out of sleek black metal. As he picks it up, you notice that it seems to bend the light around it, and that it is studded with black diamonds.} This sword is made out of shadowstarfire. This energy is something I created after witnessing the power of silverstarfire. This blade is the first of its kind, and can alter the path of light around it, making it appear to be in a spot different than its actual position. Weapon under blur effect. -2 to dexterity in opponent's AC.
Dyne 11-21-04, 07:20 PM	Very well. Here is a gift of goodwill, then. {With that, black flame shoots from his arm, and an area of dirt becomes a bastard sword made out of sleek black metal. As he picks it up, you notice that it seems to bend the light around it, and that it is studded with black diamonds.} This sword is made out of shadowstarfire. This energy is something I created after witnessing the power of silverstarfire. This blade is the first of its kind, and can alter the path of light around it, making it appear to be in a spot different than its actual position. Weapon under blur effect. -2 to dexterity in opponent's AC. *scratches head* Does that mean his Dexterity effectively decreases by 2 for the purposes of AC, or does the opponent suffer -2 to AC? "Lady Silmarien, I share your concerns. We welcome an alliance with the Half-Elven Foundation, as well as the Guild of Good and the Council of Archmages. As for the Skygge, one of their more prominent creatures, Droga, will face me in a fight to the death at the Mountaintop Arena. I will surely succeed, vanquishing a great evil from the world forever." @Chosen of the Dark Sun: Any ideas for a topic?
Demonfey 11-21-04, 07:25 PM	The opponent suffers a -2 to AC, because their perception of the blade is that it is in a different spot than it actually is. Against a blind creature, this doesn't have any effect.
thasis 11-21-04, 10:14 PM	Thasis the Good enters the chambers of the Purple Dragons fortress. "I may not be a Purple Knight but I do uphold Justice and Peace. I request membership to this guild."
Dyne 11-21-04, 10:32 PM	Thasis the Good enters the chambers of the Purple Dragons fortress. "I may not be a Purple Knight but I do uphold Justice and Peace. I request membership to this guild." "Welcome aboard, Thasis." *adds his name to the Members List* "By-the-way, Thasis, the Purple Dragons request an alliance with the Guild of Pure Good. Do you accept?" Do you guys have a topic to discuss?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-21-04, 10:52 PM	Sure, I'll join the guild wars. I haven't done this in any other guilds since I prefer to start with relatively few posts. That and the Purple Dragons rock. How powerful should we be? And can we have cohorts if have leadership feat? And can we be one of the non-standard races from Savage Species?
Dyne 11-21-04, 11:05 PM	Sure, I'll join the guild wars. I haven't done this in any other guilds since I prefer to start with relatively few posts. That and the Purple Dragons rock. How powerful should we be? And can we have cohorts if have leadership feat? And can we be one of the non-standard races from Savage Species? Cohorts? Of course we can have cohorts! This whole foundation is based on taking the Leadership feat, then having your cohort take the Leadership feat, then having HIS cohort take the Leadership feat, etc. etc. That's how I ended up with so many men: 5 of them are cohorts. As for how powerful: 32 point buy method for Ability Scores ECL 15 200,000 gp worth of equipment Use whatever material you like, including homebrew stuff, as long as the GM's can see it and make sure it's balanced etc.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-21-04, 11:08 PM	Hehehe... :devil: :schemes: :devil: :schemes: :devil: :schemes: :devil: :schemes:
Dyne 11-21-04, 11:10 PM	Hehehe... :devil: :schemes: :devil: :schemes: :devil: :schemes: :devil: :schemes: Reminder: You have to be nonchaotic and nonevil to be a Purple Dragon Knight. You can be a regular Purple Dragon without qualifying for it, but for the Purple Dragon KNIGHT PrC, you must meet that restriction.
thasis 11-22-04, 09:31 AM	I think a treaty between the Guild of Pure Good and the Purple Dragon Knights of Cormyr is a excellent idea. I accept on hehalf of the foundation of pure good as long as there are no objections on either side"
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 05:12 PM	Reminder: You have to be nonchaotic and nonevil to be a Purple Dragon Knight. You can be a regular Purple Dragon without qualifying for it, but for the Purple Dragon KNIGHT PrC, you must meet that restriction. I know... By the way, has anyone else figured out that you can be a good demon if someone forces a Helm of Opposite Alignment on you? Happened to my quasit character once...
Dyne 11-22-04, 05:14 PM	I know... By the way, has anyone else figured out that you can be a good demon if someone forces a Helm of Opposite Alignment on you? Happened to my quasit character once... But, what happens if someone takes off the helmet?
Droga 11-22-04, 05:21 PM	Then you become me :P
Dyne 11-22-04, 08:15 PM	Then you become me :P :eek: I have a topic. I was surfing around at the FR boards, and I came across an idea: Purple Dragon High Knight. Have any of you heard of such a PrC being created? If not, we can create it ourselves as one of our Prestige Classes.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 08:20 PM	But, what happens if someone takes off the helmet? If you read it's entry in the DMG, taking the helmet off won't restore the former alignment. Only wish or miracle, followed by remove curse can restore it. And the changed character regards this prospect with horror, actually prefering their new outlook. And this is completely voluntary. The Helm doesnt force you to think like that, but instead merely rewrites the characters sense of morals. So I had a lawful good quasit running around. Very powerful for an item of it's price, that helmet...
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 08:24 PM	:eek: I have a topic. I was surfing around at the FR boards, and I came across an idea: Purple Dragon High Knight. Have any of you heard of such a PrC being created? If not, we can create it ourselves as one of our Prestige Classes. I like this idea. Maybe a prestige class for a prestige class, so you need a few levels in Purple Dragon Knight to use it. :thinks: By the way I'm posting my character now. I'll use an NPC generator I know of for cohorts. If you wanna check out the generator, I think somone posted a link to it on the first page of the Player Characters Foundation. I think thats where I found it.
Dyne 11-22-04, 08:32 PM	I like this idea. Maybe a prestige class for a prestige class, so you need a few levels in Purple Dragon Knight to use it. :thinks: By the way I'm posting my character now. I'll use an NPC generator I know of for cohorts. If you wanna check out the generator, I think somone posted a link to it on the first page of the Player Characters Foundation. I think thats where I found it. I know about the NPC generator. Turalisj posted it. What do you guys think about the Purple Dragon High Knight? I think he would have a Full Base Attack Bonus, since it is afterall a combat class. It would have a High Fort Save, being a combat class and following the outline of Purple Dragon Knight. Hit Die d10. Some additional abilities for leading. Maybe something for Mounted Combat? :thinks:
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 09:04 PM	Alright, my PC's posted, give me a while to do cohorts.
Dyne 11-22-04, 09:23 PM	Alright, my PC's posted, give me a while to do cohorts. He looks pretty good so far. I'll add him and his cohorts/followers to the Soldier Roster....
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 09:52 PM	Now I'm done... The gate opens and in marchs an army of hobgoblins, led by one with golden plates and whiskers giving his face a regal look to it. He stalks foward and lays his greatword, sheated in white flame at your feet. "What would you have you servant do?"
Dyne 11-22-04, 09:59 PM	CotDS, wouldn't your cohort be level 12?
turalisj 11-22-04, 10:02 PM	a tiefling bearing a black and white banner rides up to the gate. the banner is pure black except for a white eye raiating blue light in the middle. "greatings helm dundragon, lord of this castle! i am turalisj, fallen dragon who has come back as a tiefling. i am leader of the skygge hunters, a mercanary group dedicated to wiping out all evil." the rider shouts. slung arcoos his back is a huge sword, larger than anyone has seen in these parts. ] basically i am offering an alliance between our groups.
Dyne 11-22-04, 10:13 PM	a tiefling bearing a black and white banner rides up to the gate. the banner is pure black except for a white eye raiating blue light in the middle. "greatings helm dundragon, lord of this castle! i am turalisj, fallen dragon who has come back as a tiefling. i am leader of the skygge hunters, a mercanary group dedicated to wiping out all evil." the rider shouts. slung arcoos his back is a huge sword, larger than anyone has seen in these parts. ] basically i am offering an alliance between our groups. "On behalf of this foundation, I, Helm Dundragon, accept this alliance between the Skygge Hunters and the Purpler Dragons. May our two groups thrive with the support of their allies."
Dyne 11-22-04, 10:16 PM	Now I'm done... The gate opens and in marchs an army of hobgoblins, led by one with golden plates and whiskers giving his face a regal look to it. He stalks foward and lays his greatword, sheated in white flame at your feet. "What would you have you servant do?" Hmmm. An army of hobgoblins in the Purple Dragons. I never imagined that. Nevertheless, we accept all who are loyal to Cormyr. CotDS, do you have Complete Warrior?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 10:26 PM	CotDS, wouldn't your cohort be level 12? All my cohorts are one level lower because they all suffer the hobgobli's +1 LA. You do realize the true might of my army? :D No, I don't have Complete Warrior, but that's probably the next book I'm getting anyways.
Dyne 11-22-04, 10:58 PM	All my cohorts are one level lower because they all suffer the hobgobli's +1 LA. You do realize the true might of my army? :D No, I don't have Complete Warrior, but that's probably the next book I'm getting anyways. I didn't realize creatures bestowed their LA to followers and cohorts? I don't have CW either. Even though this is mainly a combat organization, I think we should get involved in the Drow Murder Mystery. We may be later than everyone else, but it'll still be fun to figure stuff out. I've been working on the Council of Archmages case, but I'm totally stumped and am not much farther from where I started. :blush: Reminder: We're trying to develop a Purple Dragon High Knight PrC. If you have any ideas, post them. (in the mean time, I have some stuff to do involving other foundations and finding out if this PrC already exists) About Purple Dragon High Knights: There is also a Purple Dragon Highknight prestige class, which is distinctly different than the Knight. Highknights are specifically not current army officers; they are special agents of the Crown. The prestige class is detailed in Dragon Annual #5. The first highknights were former members of the King's Blades -- companions of Azoun IV -- but since then others have been made Highknights. They may function as bodyguards for the Royals, and they may also be sent on special missions directly for the Crown.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 11:09 PM	I didn't realize creatures bestowed their LA to followers and cohorts? Since they are hobgoblins as well, they all have the +1 LA. Three of mine is from being half-dragon, but me and all my followers have the LA. Unless you want me to level up my cohorts... :smirk:
Dyne 11-22-04, 11:12 PM	Since they are hobgoblins as well, they all have the +1 LA. Three of mine is from being half-dragon, but me and all my followers have the LA. Unless you want me to level up my cohorts... :smirk: I just want everyone to play by the rules. Anyway, I don't know about the High Knight. You don't happen to have Dragon Magazine Annual issue #5, do you? For High Knight, I was looking more for a kind of general than an agent. What do you think?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 11:36 PM	I just want everyone to play by the rules. Anyway, I don't know about the High Knight. You don't happen to have Dragon Magazine Annual issue #5, do you? For High Knight, I was looking more for a kind of general than an agent. What do you think? Dragon is a bit of a stretch for my wallet... As for the High Knight, we could give it abilities similar to a Marshal, being able to inspire troops. And I don't think there is anything in the rules against hobgoblins.
Dyne 11-22-04, 11:42 PM	Dragon is a bit of a stretch for my wallet... As for the High Knight, we could give it abilities similar to a Marshal, being able to inspire troops. And I don't think there is anything in the rules against hobgoblins. Nevermind the hobgoblins. They're fine. What is Marshall? I've never seen it before, except in your's and Orcy's characters. It sounds like it would be a good class for a leader. EDIT: Wait. Just curious, aren't hobgoblins usually evil? Or do these ones owe a special allegiance to Cormyr?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 11:45 PM	What is Marshall? I've never seen it before, except in your's and Orcy's characters. It sounds like it would be a good class for a leader. Thats the whole point of it. It's a new base class from the Miniatures Handbook (why it's in there I don't know). I'll PM you the stats.
turalisj 11-22-04, 11:48 PM	can you send me the stats also? i'd like to have my 2nd in command be a marshall.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 11:52 PM	can you send me the stats also? i'd like to have my 2nd in command be a marshall. Here they come. Sorry, but you'll have to clean up the class levels chart yourself. It won't fit in the system as far across as it needs to go. Shouldn't be that hard to do.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-22-04, 11:56 PM	Unforseen delay guys, I'll have to get it to you in two parts since it's an entire class and it's huge.
turalisj 11-23-04, 12:02 AM	actually i found the archived version, here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030906b) it is. my leutentant is a lvl 4 rouge and a lvl 5 marshal
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 12:07 AM	Thank you! Sorry about that, but it just wouldn't fit!
Droga 11-23-04, 12:10 AM	Marshal is an amazing support class. Once used one with a two fighters, they had a good +4 to damage on flanking, and they were almost always flanking. Really great class to use.
Xen155 11-23-04, 12:29 AM	Does this foundation include The War Wizards? If so, I humbly request to join. I go by the name of Xen. I trust you are not hostile to the honorable Half-Elf Foundation? Occ: I intend to use the same character for all the foundations im in, is that cool with you?
turalisj 11-23-04, 07:28 AM	any know what regeion southern wisconsin would be in?
Dyne 11-23-04, 08:32 AM	Does this foundation include The War Wizards? If so, I humbly request to join. I go by the name of Xen. I trust you are not hostile to the honorable Half-Elf Foundation? Occ: I intend to use the same character for all the foundations im in, is that cool with you? I was thinking of just making the War Wizards part of this foundation. And it's okay if you use the same character.
Xen155 11-23-04, 10:47 AM	I was thinking of just making the War Wizards part of this foundation. And it's okay if you use the same character. Excellent, then, if you'll have me, Im in for the furtherance of law and good!
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 05:03 PM	So then, anyone got a topic or something we can destroy?
Xen155 11-23-04, 05:33 PM	What is the Purple Dragons current project, we just accepted an alliance with the Skygge Hunters, so will WE be hunting Skygge?
Dyne 11-23-04, 09:47 PM	What is the Purple Dragons current project, we just accepted an alliance with the Skygge Hunters, so will WE be hunting Skygge? If that is your wish. Personally, Helm will not rest until Droga is dead. If all the Skygge are that bad (and I'm guessing they are), he will destroy all of them. We were trying to come up with a kind of Purple Dragon High Knight, but not with that exact name (since it already exists). It would be like the Purple Dragon Knight, but would expand on the leadership abilities and would be like a general.
Xen155 11-23-04, 09:51 PM	Xen bursts through the door and snaps to attention. Sir, I have seen your latest challenge to Droga! Sir, are you sure that is a wise choice?
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 09:55 PM	I would like to join this guild if I may
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 09:58 PM	I would like to join this guild if I may It took you long enough, dude.
anglar 11-23-04, 09:59 PM	If you read it's entry in the DMG, taking the helmet off won't restore the former alignment. Only wish or miracle, followed by remove curse can restore it. And the changed character regards this prospect with horror, actually prefering their new outlook. And this is completely voluntary. The Helm doesnt force you to think like that, but instead merely rewrites the characters sense of morals. So I had a lawful good quasit running around. Very powerful for an item of it's price, that helmet... Quite so. I have another character who has two female Drow aids from using HoOA on them.
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:03 PM	Xen bursts through the door and snaps to attention. Sir, I have seen your latest challenge to Droga! Sir, are you sure that is a wise choice? "Droga is doomed to death, and he knows it. It will no longer be permitted for him to use such abominable tricks, so there is nothing to save him. And, I will not permit him to live." "I am an honerable fighter, but Droga will not play by the rules. Any help my fellows of Cormyr can give will be appreciated. Perhaps I should take a page out of Dyne's book, and use Invisibility...." Welcome, Holy Man. Anyone who wants to join can. This foundation is dedicated to one of the most awesome Prestige Classes ever, the Purple Dragons. Right now, we're trying to figure out a PrC that would take Purple Dragon Knight a step further, make him more like a general.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:03 PM	I love that helmet! I'm planning on having my character buy several. :D Dyne, turn invisible and shove a helm of opposite alignment on Droga's head. It's a dirty trick, but it could work.
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:05 PM	I love that helmet! I'm planning on having my character buy several. :D Isn't that helmet supposed to be a cursed item?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:07 PM	Isn't that helmet supposed to be a cursed item? Yes, but curses can be used offensively as well as defensively. You don't have to use it on yourself. :D
Demonfey 11-23-04, 10:12 PM	"Droga is doomed to death, and he knows it. It will no longer be permitted for him to use such abominable tricks, so there is nothing to save him. And, I will not permit him to live." "I am an honerable fighter, but Droga will not play by the rules. Any help my fellows of Cormyr can give will be appreciated. Perhaps I should take a page out of Dyne's book, and use Invisibility...." Welcome, Holy Man. Anyone who wants to join can. This foundation is dedicated to one of the most awesome Prestige Classes ever, the Purple Dragons. Right now, we're trying to figure out a PrC that would take Purple Dragon Knight a step further, make him more like a general. Strangely enough, he does play by the rules. He believes in honorable combat, and that death in melee is honorable. Oh, and come anywhere near me with one of those helmets, and you can kiss you testes goodbye.
Xen155 11-23-04, 10:15 PM	Sir, you have but ask and I will aid in any way required.
anglar 11-23-04, 10:19 PM	I love that helmet! I'm planning on having my character buy several. :D Dyne, turn invisible and shove a helm of opposite alignment on Droga's head. It's a dirty trick, but it could work. There is a save involved.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:21 PM	Oh, and come anywhere near me with one of those helmets, and you can kiss you testes goodbye.[/I] You come anywhere near my testes and I'll eat your brain. Oh, sorry, did I say that out loud? :shifty:
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 10:22 PM	As you are the leader, dyne, i must ask for your and only your approval to this guild, my question is still stands unanswered, and i ask for a request
Demonfey 11-23-04, 10:24 PM	Hope you like the taste of flaming coal, then, because my brain and heart became coal after my metamorphosis into what I am today.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:25 PM	As you are the leader, dyne, i must ask for your and only your approval to this guild, my question is still stands unanswered, and i ask for a request Dude it's not like he's a god (though I'm sure he wishes it), and he already said you're in.
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:27 PM	As you are the leader, dyne, i must ask for your and only your approval to this guild, my question is still stands unanswered, and i ask for a request I already said you're in. And no, I'm no god. I think I even added you to the members list already....
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:27 PM	Hope you like the taste of flaming coal, then, because my brain and heart became coal after my metamorphosis into what I am today. You must not go near people very often, or have much capacity for intelligence, demon. Sorry, did I say that out loud too? ****! I did, didn't I!?
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:30 PM	CotDS, I need to clarify something. What is your cohort's name? Is it Bangh? Bagnah? Bahnag? Gabnah? Habgan? Habnab? Man, there are so many possible combinations for those letters. :D
Demonfey 11-23-04, 10:31 PM	You must not go near people very often, or have much capacity for intelligence, demon. A few notes on my character: Half elf, half demon Always wary of people with swords on their person, or any weapon or spell conceivable (means he is always expecting an attack and so is edgy and unpredictable in his actions) Fire elemental savant (full) Developer and controller of shadowstarfire wizard and member of the Council of Archmages, Half elven foundation, and Guild of Ultimate Evil (to name a few)
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:35 PM	A few notes on my character: Half elf, half demon Always wary of people with swords on their person, or any weapon or spell conceivable Fire elemental savant (full) Developer and controller of shadowstarfire wizard and member of the Council of Archmages, Half elven foundation, and Guild of Ultimate Evil (to name a few) You forgot, he also seems to hate Lawful Good people. (which would make sense. Isn't he Chaotic Evil?)
ChaosEvoker 11-23-04, 10:37 PM	A myseterious gray skinned elf walks into the room. His aura is dark indeed and his bright green eyes stand in sharp contrast to his long black hair. The hair is so black it almost seems purple. "I hear someone has vengance they wish carried out...." The elf pulls out a piece of paper and reads: "I see. 'Droga' is it? Mmhmm. Well I believe I can take care of this little problem for you. For the right price my..." His hand alights in black fire "...services...are avaliable."
Demonfey 11-23-04, 10:37 PM	He doesn't hate them so much as likes to taunt them and make fun of them as an anxiety release system. He is so chaotic and so evil, he can act good in his own way and still be assured of his own evil.
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 10:40 PM	I am a person that favors the paladin class for there excellent abilities. I also favor the human race for the extra feat, skills, and no levle adjustment. I lean towards them because I am a human myself, obviously
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:42 PM	CotDS, I need to clarify something. What is your cohort's name? Is it Bangh? Bagnah? Bahnag? Gabnah? Habgan? Habnab? Man, there are so many possible combinations for those letters. :D The name is Bangh. Not my invention, I just used the name the generator gave her.
ChaosEvoker 11-23-04, 10:43 PM	"Does no one have interest in my offer?"
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 10:44 PM	I am fairly new on this site so i would ask how to make a character for this guild
Xen155 11-23-04, 10:44 PM	A myseterious gray skinned elf walks into the room. His aura is dark indeed and his bright green eyes stand in sharp contrast to his long black hair. The hair is so black it almost seems purple. "I hear someone has vengance they wish carried out...." The elf pulls out a piece of paper and reads: "I see. 'Droga' is it? Mmhmm. Well I believe I can take care of this little problem for you. For the right price my..." His hand alights in black fire "...services...are avaliable." Watch him helm, he stinks of the Shadow Weave. He is most definently some kind of undead to, I have met this one befor.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:46 PM	I am a person that favors the paladin class for there excellent abilities. I also favor the human race for the extra feat, skills, and no levle adjustment. I lean towards them because I am a human myself, obviously NO, please NO! Not the paladin again! Be something else for once, please! Even a fighter or cleric! But be something else for a change. And you're all humans, but lots of people don't use them.
Xen155 11-23-04, 10:49 PM	NO, please NO! Not the paladin again! Be something else for once, please! Even a fighter or cleric! But be something else for a change. And you're all humans, but lots of people don't use them. :rofl: I asume you two have played D&D with eachother befor?
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 10:49 PM	Sorry chosen, its just the way i float towards, hope ya dont mind ma man, but im just that way, a paladin lover
ChaosEvoker 11-23-04, 10:49 PM	Smirks at Xen. "Indeed..." Letting his spell fall, he shows his undead form. Rotting skin clinging to his decaying frame. "I offer services. I may be evil, but I am willing ot destroy evil. I fight for your good cause in this case. Would you turn away help for a good cause simply becuase the source is atypical?" OOC: Just on a side note, my character doesn't smell. You cannot detect his undeadness by his scent!
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 10:51 PM	:rofl: I asume you two have played D&D with eachother befor? yep, me and chosen have played before, he's ussually the dm, and im ussually the pally
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:51 PM	There's nothing wrong with Paladins. I, myself, am a Paladin. You create a character the same way you would in normal D&D, with the following changes: ECL 15 (ECL stands for Equivalent Character Level) Point-Buy Method, using 32 points for Ability Scores 200,000 gp worth of gear Any kind of material you want to use, whether it be official or homebrew. The judges have to looks over homebrew stuff, however. When you finish your character, post him on the Player Character and Statistics thread. Anyways, it also makes sense to be a Human, since the Purple Dragons are in Cormyr, and Cormyr is a Human country with only a small percentage of Half-Elves and Elves, and very few of any other race.
Demonfey 11-23-04, 10:52 PM	Consider anthropomorphic animals, to start with. It would be interesting to have a wolverine join the Purple Dragons... :)
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:53 PM	A myseterious gray skinned elf walks into the room. His aura is dark indeed and his bright green eyes stand in sharp contrast to his long black hair. The hair is so black it almost seems purple. "I hear someone has vengance they wish carried out...." The elf pulls out a piece of paper and reads: "I see. 'Droga' is it? Mmhmm. Well I believe I can take care of this little problem for you. For the right price my..." His hand alights in black fire "...services...are avaliable." Keld calls out in a booming voice "Begone, demon of Corruption, fore I use your wretched entrails for my own ammunition! Begone from my sight, Corrupter! You reek of ill!"
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 10:53 PM	oops, sorry, didnt read the whole thing
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:54 PM	Smirks at Xen. "Indeed..." Letting his spell fall, he shows his undead form. Rotting skin clinging to his decaying frame. "I offer services. I may be evil, but I am willing ot destroy evil. I fight for your good cause in this case. Would you turn away help for a good cause simply becuase the source is atypical?" OOC: Just on a side note, my character doesn't smell. You cannot detect his undeadness by his scent! "ChaosEvoker, I have to refuse your "services". And, I sense you do not fight for my cause, but for money. I will be the one to destroy Droga. He is my nemesis now."
Dyne 11-23-04, 10:55 PM	Ya, I know how to make a character, Dyne, its just i dont know where to post it Post it at the Player Character and Statistics thread. It's here, floating around in the Guild House somewhere. It still hasn't been stickied. [sigh] I need to see Sil about that.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 10:55 PM	There's nothing wrong with Paladins. I, myself, am a Paladin. I know, it's just that he uses one EVERY SINGLE TIME I DON'T FORBID HIM TO!
Demonfey 11-23-04, 10:57 PM	It's on the first page, if that helps. Just remember to consider anthropomorphic animals, or the unlikely hero species, like a tiefling.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 11:19 PM	It's on the first page, if that helps. Just remember to consider anthropomorphic animals, or the unlikely hero species, like a tiefling. Here comes his human paladin of Tyr or Torm (he seems to alternate)... As for non-humans, I've tried to convince him on many occasions to no avail. He won't pick anything that isn't obviously at least part human, such as an aasimar. Maybe now is a good time to pull out one of those Helmets... No! That was out loud too, wasn't it?! :censored: :banghead:
Holy_Man 11-23-04, 11:26 PM	hey dyne, just to tell ya, are you sure we only get 32 ability points! in total! Because that isnt alot. Or is it all the abilities start out with 10, and we add em on
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 11:32 PM	hey dyne, just to tell ya, are you sure we only get 32 ability points! in total! Because that isnt alot Look in the DMG, pg. 169, for the rules. You start out with 8 points in every ability, and then use the rules on that page to add to those. That's how we all got our scores (except for me, the half-dragon :D ).
Mr_GrinReaper 11-23-04, 11:34 PM	The castle door suddenly creaks open, a gust of wind blows in and with it several boughts of laughter. suddenly about five or six pixies, and grigs appear (haven't decided on cohorts etc. yet). One steps forward, obviously the leader, saying "I have heard that you are looking for help?" 0oc: soooooo, am i accepted, still have to do story but what ever... Btw. Chosen of DS it is me, the crazy dood that knows who you are (Peter) not G.
Dyne 11-23-04, 11:36 PM	The castle door suddenly creaks open, a gust of wind blows in and with it several boughts of laughter. suddenly about five or six pixies, and grigs appear (haven't decided on cohorts etc. yet). One steps forward, obviously the leader, saying "I have heard that you are looking for help?" 0oc: soooooo, am i accepted, still have to do story but what ever... Btw. Chosen of DS it is me, the crazy dood that knows who you are (Peter) not G. You're in, Mr_GrinReaper. Man, we're starting to grow pretty quick now. I like seeing new members show up like this.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-23-04, 11:37 PM	Give ur compliments to CotDS he got me and Holy man into this.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-23-04, 11:40 PM	Well, its been good but i g2g. Bedtime curfew i should be on tomarrow possibly in moring definatly later
ChaosEvoker 11-23-04, 11:41 PM	"Fine then, you are too blind to see we fight on the same side, for whatever reason. Who cares what my motivations are as long as the effects are teh same? Bah, I waste my time with one as blind as you.." With that, the lich leaves.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-23-04, 11:43 PM	Give ur compliments to CotDS he got me and Holy man into this. Just stay out of the DMF, or I will introduce you all to a dragon, now that you are conveniently in the Underdark... You know, just from "Grin Reaper", I figured it was you before I even read your post. Help me get Holy Man to be something other than a paladin!
Demonfey 11-24-04, 12:44 PM	Holy man, have you considered a cleric? They can be like paladins, but with the ability to help heal those who need it. And a guild full of melee fighters could definitely use a full healer, if you think about it.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 12:52 PM	Holy man, have you considered a cleric? They can be like paladins, but with the ability to help heal those who need it. And a guild full of melee fighters could definitely use a full healer, if you think about it. I keep telling him this, but he never goes for it. :twitch:
Demonfey 11-24-04, 12:55 PM	Wizards are also good. Why waste your health and strength on only one enemy, when you can attack dozens with one spell? If you also multiclass into archmage, you can reshape the spells to hit even more opponents.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 12:57 PM	Wizards are also good. Why waste your health and strength on only one enemy, when you can attack dozens with one spell? If you also multiclass into archmage, you can reshape the spells to hit even more opponents. As I said before, he'll only ever be a paladin, and he hates wizards (sometimes I think that I'm the only one in my entire group who really likes arcane magic users).
Demonfey 11-24-04, 01:02 PM	Shall I show him the power of a fully fleshed out mage?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 01:11 PM	Shall I show him the power of a fully fleshed out mage? Be my guest.
Holy_Man 11-24-04, 01:19 PM	Look in the DMG,). i dont got the dmg dude, its at ur house
Demonfey 11-24-04, 01:21 PM	I want to show your new member what he may be facing at some point. {With that, he begins casting a spell. At the end, a hole appears, and a Great Wyrm Red Dragon comes through. Crowley flies up and begins patting it on the head.} Good ex familiar. Good boy. {The dragon looks at him with gudging respect and some disgust at his actions.}
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 01:26 PM	i dont got the dmg dude, its at ur house D'oh! :doh: :banghead:
Holy_Man 11-24-04, 01:28 PM	do you think you could just give me the info off the book chosen?
Holy_Man 11-24-04, 01:30 PM	As I said before, he'll only ever be a paladin, and he hates wizards (sometimes I think that I'm the only one in my entire group who really likes arcane magic users). aight, aight, listen i really think that I am just a paladin type of guy, I'm sorry that you feel that way about me and paladins, and by the way, your the one who introduced it to me and if you hadn't then i probably wouldn't be one right now
Holy_Man 11-24-04, 01:32 PM	sorry guys, i gtg
Demonfey 11-24-04, 01:34 PM	You can still have the morals and personality without having to be a paladin.
Orcy The Green Wonder 11-24-04, 04:02 PM	I want to show your new member what he may be facing at some point. {With that, he begins casting a spell. At the end, a hole appears, and a Great Wyrm Red Dragon comes through. Crowley flies up and begins patting it on the head.} Good ex familiar. Good boy. {The dragon looks at him with gudging respect and some disgust at his actions.} Demonfey... Orcy is begining to get tired of coming onto these threads and seeing you threatening people with your EPIC character. If you want to threaten people, use your level 15. Because if it keeps up, Orcy's gonna have some butt to whoop.
turalisj 11-24-04, 04:05 PM	mybe i could slip a potion of baleful polymorp(chicken) into his drink.... :D
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 04:09 PM	Or use one of my Helms of Opposite Alignment... :D
Demonfey 11-24-04, 04:21 PM	Alright. I was just trying to convert a fellow board member to the path of wizardness. Relax, will you? In an actual fight, I will use the 15th level shard personality Elf. The reason I don't change this to a 15th level character is similar to why you aren't 15th level. I just can't get the flavoring of the character right in non epic levels.
Orcy The Green Wonder 11-24-04, 04:26 PM	That does not mean you should go around threatening other players. Orcy has seen you pop in with your epic character and tell people what to do many a time. Not to mention you talking about having your character behind the scenes controlling things. Orcy suggests playing a level 15 like everyone else. You have no reason not to simply play a different character rather than your epic one for these games. Having an epic character running around threatening people and telling them that he is going to attack them if they don't do what he wants is not right.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 04:28 PM	I know this is off topic, but I have been trying to ask people and have yet to get an answer from anyone. Orcy, do you know if you have to request to start a thread, or if you can just do it off the bat. I have a plan for an item/weapon/pawn shop that explains where people get some of their items, and can be minorly related to the plot in the case of the fights. Could you tell me? Sorry about the popping in at random points and ordering people around with epic magic. I'll just try and keep to the background, where I won't have as much impact. Okay? Any discworld readers will get this part: I was merely trying to emulate the Patrician in some part.
Orcy The Green Wonder 11-24-04, 04:32 PM	Orcy isnt too sure about that. An epic character can obviously make more powerful things than a non-epic. They would be making a lot of money from other players that could then be used for their level 15 "personality" (in your case). Which would make that level 15 a lot more powerful than it should be.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 04:35 PM	Orcy isnt too sure about that. An epic character can obviously make more powerful things than a non-epic. They would be making a lot of money from other players that could then be used for their level 15 "personality" (in your case). Which would make that level 15 a lot more powerful than it should be. Wasn't thinking about that part. In any case, the only thing my character can make are beholder grafts. The money would go to workers, the arena, and guilds I am a part of. Is that okay, at least?
turalisj 11-24-04, 05:09 PM	anyone know what region in greyhawk/fareun southeastern wisconsin would be in?
Dyne 11-24-04, 06:04 PM	anyone know what region in greyhawk/fareun southeastern wisconsin would be in? :confused: :uh-huh: Demonfey, I think you can just start a thread, but I wouldn't really know. I just started this foundation without asking, and it hasn't been closed yet. People, we need to get a topic, and then stick to that topic. Orcy, can you discuss with Demonfey his Epic character on a different thread?
Holy_Man 11-24-04, 06:26 PM	Im back! Hey chosend of the ds, can you tell me how to make a character with the 32 ability points? :D
Holy_Man 11-24-04, 06:34 PM	alright, as a topic, I think that we should discuss the favored races of the people in this guild, and i havent made a character yet on the fact that i dont have the dmg
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 06:45 PM	Im back! Hey chosend of the ds, can you tell me how to make a character with the 32 ability points? :D Alright, everything starts at 8, and you use the points to up them. Everythin up to 14 takes a number of points equal to how much above 8 it is (such as 4 points for a 12). A 15 is 8 points, a 16 is 10 points, a 17 is 13 points, and an 18 is 16 points, okay?
Demonfey 11-24-04, 07:35 PM	Sorry. The conversation just kind of hit the breaking point here.
Dyne 11-24-04, 08:06 PM	alright, as a topic, I think that we should discuss the favored races of the people in this guild, and i havent made a character yet on the fact that i dont have the dmg Favored Races: Helm is a Human Paladin/Purple Dragon Knight/Divine Champion from Cormyr. I, myself, like Elves, Humans, Dwarves, and Halflings for characters, depending on the type of character. Elves are my favorite, and I play them as all types of characters. I play Humans sometimes for their adaptability. I play Dwarves for Fighters. I play Halflings for Rogues. I don't play Half-Orcs because of their Intelligence/Charisma penalties, I don't usually play a Gnome, and I have never played a Half-Elf. The Half-Elves of 3.0 seemed to have nothing about them that was desirable: They were somewhat like Elves, but their Listen, Spot, Search bonuses were lower, and they didn't have a Dex bonus. They were kinda like Humans, but they lacked a Human's adaptability. So, I just never really saw a point in playing a Half-Elf in 3.0. Just made the jump to 3.5, and I may consider playing a Half-Elf since they now have Diplomacy bonuses.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 08:10 PM	I like wild elves 'cause sorcerers kick ***! :D
Dyne 11-24-04, 08:17 PM	I like wild elves 'cause sorcerers kick ***! :D Hmmm. I always thought Wild Elves would make good Barbarians, or maybe Rangers.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 08:18 PM	I still think that an anthropomorphic animal would be great. If you were a ranger, many people could consider you to be your own animal companion. :D
Demonfey 11-24-04, 08:20 PM	Hmmm. I always thought Wild Elves would make good Barbarians, or maybe Rangers. It says in the Races of Faerun, which is more or less accurate at this point, that their favored class is sorceror. Don't ask me why. Personally, I agree with you, Dyne, because that could make some sense.
Dyne 11-24-04, 08:20 PM	I still think that an anthropomorphic animal would be great. If you were a ranger, many people could consider you to be your own animal companion. :D The main reason Helm is a Human: The Purple Dragons are in Cormyr, which is a Human country. It would make more sense for the Leader of the Purple Dragons to be a Human.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 08:23 PM	Yeah, but you just said favored races, nothing about leadership.
Dyne 11-24-04, 08:24 PM	Yeah, but you just said favored races, nothing about leadership. Demonfey, are you wanting to be a member? Or are you just gonna post here every once in a while? Or are you secretly spying on us for the Guild of Ultimate Evil? ;)
Dyne 11-24-04, 08:25 PM	Man, has this foundation really had that many posts?! Whew, we've only been around for a few days!
Demonfey 11-24-04, 08:27 PM	Demonfey, are you wanting to be a member? Or are you just gonna post here every once in a while? Or are you secretly spying on us for the Guild of Ultimate Evil? I just feel like posting here every once in a while. Besides, why should I spy on you guys? My character's motto is attack when attacked. You have yet to attack, so he is edgy but okay around you.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 09:14 PM	Sup peeps im on... making my char for guild wars.... soooo many choices, and no dmg for magic items. i looked at favored races but i was also doing some reading and thought i might be a loxo. Which are very cool. I kinda did a total shift from small to big lol. With leadership feat on cohorts i could potentially get a clan of loxos for our guild lol.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 09:35 PM	Sup peeps im on... making my char for guild wars.... soooo many choices, and no dmg for magic items. i looked at favored races but i was also doing some reading and thought i might be a loxo. Which are very cool. I kinda did a total shift from small to big lol. With leadership feat on cohorts i could potentially get a clan of loxos for our guild lol. I've already got a batallion of 70 hobgoblins under my command :D . 71 i you include me. I'll lend you the DMG tommorow. Oh, and I edited my character slightly everyone, since I realized that my weapon didn't really do me any good.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 10:02 PM	cool, sounds fun....... and i do admit that ur character kiks aaa! but loxos are so much more powerful then the hobgobbies... You may get more class lvls but loxos can 2-hand huge weapons normally sized for 1 hand (mmmmmm... huge warhammer) I was looking at the magic items i do have information for and one really evil one: render bait :D gives u as many as ur cha bonus minimum 1 grey renders bonded to you as it says in mon. man. even tho with my sucky cha i could only get 1 its still awesome
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 10:08 PM	Grin Reaper, about your sig, it was 400 years, not 3000. I said he had been there since Waterdeep Castle was still being built. And yes, Keld does kick ***. The problem with your loxo however is that with the low class levels (racial HD don't count) and charisma, you won't have very good or very many cohorts or followers.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 10:09 PM	{Crowley hears stamping behind him, and turns around to see a Loxo. Then he sees more Loxos, and even his ears droop. Then, he is trampled into the ground. He eventually gets up, and groans in pain.} I hate it when that happens.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 10:12 PM	What about thri-kreen? They are ECL 3, have four arms, and can use multiple weapons at once.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 10:16 PM	What about thri-kreen? They are ECL 3, have four arms, and can use multiple weapons at once. Sniff, I love those guys! :weep:
Dyne 11-24-04, 10:16 PM	Loxos? Do you mean Loxodons? Mr_GrinReaper, you can look at the D&D SRD for magic items and such. It has a section for them.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 10:17 PM	Thats true, but loxos poon.... lol......And about Tri-Kreen, Yeah, thought about that, Me and another PC from DotDS's group made one togather at 10th level who duel wielded enchanted gythkas and had a dmg of 38 MINIMUM, that is sickening.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 10:19 PM	Yes i mean loxodons, stats for them in back of savage species. and thx about the info on mag item section. on to the bard: CotDS yeah but he would be cooler if it was 3000 years..... lol since hes really rather unaged
Demonfey 11-24-04, 10:56 PM	Ooh...can you give me some specifics? (Classes) I need a weaker character.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:03 PM	Ooh...can you give me some specifics? (Classes) I need a weaker character. What do you mean?
Dyne 11-24-04, 11:04 PM	What do you mean? His character is currently ECL 23.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:08 PM	His character is currently ECL 23. I know that, but I'm asking what he wants. If you want a weaker character you could always be a member of my favorite race.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:14 PM	My second favorite species is probably the thri-kreen. I just want some information from someone who made a thrikreen character successfully first.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:16 PM	By favorite race I meen kobolds, the best race in D&D. Especially half-red dragon ones... :D
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:18 PM	Yeah, but the thrikreen can use four shortswords at once, and a rogue would get to be really, really good.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:25 PM	Specifics on Loxos? well, they have 6 racial hd, +2 level adjustment darkvision to 60 feet large size base speed 30 feet 2 trunks allowing 2 slam natural attacks (1d6) berserk rage: like a barbs raging ablity except every time a fellow loxo clan member dies trample: can make a 1d8+1 and a half str bon dmg attack by running through an opponents square (overrun, charge or bullrush i guess +8 str +2 dex +2 con -2 cha +4 nat armor bonus favored class:ranger and they look like elephants with two trunks that stand on 2 feet
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:27 PM	oh thri-kreen..... lol, all that work.... just get multiattack tree, and multidexterity and double wield gythka's (1d10/1d10 19-20 crit exotic weapon that thri kreen treat as martial)
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:32 PM	Me like. Now, what was the class the thri kreen had? That tends to be important.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:33 PM	Thank god.... Just finished (mostly) putting my character up on PC and stats thread..... peeps can have a look see, but i dont even have my items up yet so.... yeah...
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:35 PM	Giant greatsword, Mr. Grinreaper. Think about it. It would do over 3d8 each time.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:35 PM	Classes, Try some ranger (because u get combat style multiwep. fighting for free) and some fighter for other feat stuff also. hmmmmm..... maybe even try adding psionic warrior..... hehehehehehe :)
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:36 PM	hmmmmmmm.... Giant greatsword..... Muahahahahah!
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:37 PM	I have it! A thrikreen ranger/druid. That way, I also get good spells!
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:38 PM	Giant greatsword, Mr. Grinreaper. Think about it. It would do over 3d8 each time. Yeah Mr. Grinreaper, think about Hruggruk! Hruggruk mad! Hruggruk smash! By the way, it's kinda funny that my hobgoblin has more HP than you loxo.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:38 PM	no, but thats already two handed, i can only wield huge weapons two handed that would be one handed if they were sized for me.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:39 PM	That is lol... but remember my wizzy lvls which i should prolly remove
Dyne 11-24-04, 11:40 PM	Yeah Mr. Grinreaper, think about Hruggruk! Hruggruk mad! Hruggruk smash! By the way, it's kinda funny that my hobgoblin has more HP than you loxo. Oh yeah, well I have more HP than all of you, and I'm only a Human! (this isn't counting Demonfey, of course)
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:40 PM	That's why I said "at least". I forgot the exact damage for a huge greatsword. :schemes: Crowley's a mage. You're supposed to have more than me.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:44 PM	Yeah, well, even though you could beat me one on one, my auras would overpower you if it was you and your cohorts vs. me and my cohorts. And remember, my auras work on me as well... :D
Dyne 11-24-04, 11:46 PM	I have 150 HP, more than Droga himself. Helm is a true warrior. :D
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:46 PM	hmmmmmm..... but once i find out my cohorts, even if theres not many, would u like to go up against 30 or so raging loxos, because u killed only 1 of them
Dyne 11-24-04, 11:48 PM	Yeah, well, even though you could beat me one on one, my auras would overpower you if it was you and your cohorts vs. me and my cohorts. And remember, my auras work on me as well... :D Only because I didn't spend all my gold on just my sword. And I didn't take levels in Marshal.
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:49 PM	So THAT'S how many I had Crowley get trampled by. Oh, and consider sizing morphing weapons. They can become virtually any weapon you desire. :devil:
Dyne 11-24-04, 11:50 PM	hmmmmmm..... but once i find out my cohorts, even if theres not many, would u like to go up against 30 or so raging loxos, because u killed only 1 of them If they were Evil Loxos, then I'd beat them anyway. :fight!: Anyway, we're not gonna be fighting against each other. We will be using our armies to support one another, for we serve the same cause.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:52 PM	If u want good magic item to buy, try render bait price: 36 thouandish allows u to bond grey renders= your cha bonus, as the special adoption thing in moster manual and they serve u and every thing, thats X number of cr 11 renders running around ahem DotDS with ur pooning charisma
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:53 PM	Mr. Grin Reaper you CAN NOT have loxo followers. The warrior levels given for followers are the total ECL, not the race plus those levels. You couldn't have any loxo followers because of the high LA, and even if you could, you'd have to pull them down to one hit die, and then my 70 hobgoblins would trounce them. So, I actually wouldn't care about 30 raging loxos, if you can even get that many.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:53 PM	sure-- ill get a +4 morphing sizing brilliant energy warhammer lol-- poonishment!!!
Demonfey 11-24-04, 11:54 PM	But your character would profit the most from a morphing and sizing weapon, which would give you outstanding variety.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-24-04, 11:56 PM	Oh, and lets see how your ONE gray render would react if I shoved my freakishly powerful sword right up its :censored: ... Movin' on...
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:57 PM	lol-- so maybe im a dreamer... but if i could get 30 odd loxos! :D
Mr_GrinReaper 11-24-04, 11:57 PM	no CotDS i was actually suggesting that u buy one.....
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 12:02 AM	No ****in' way am I given up my sword! Have you seen what that **** does?! Same goes for the armor, since it also gives me a +2 on my leadership score! And remember, since it is a Firebrand, it also has the flaming ability. Now, as you would say, that is poonish.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 12:04 AM	Oh darn, I seem to have lost my wep/armor enh. pricing sheet. would ne1 be so kind as to tell me the cost of +4 morphing sizing brilliant energy?
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 12:05 AM	very poonish, but when we ammass much riches, u should afford your self that
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 12:07 AM	Oh darn, I seem to have lost my wep/armor enh. pricing sheet. would ne1 be so kind as to tell me the cost of +4 morphing sizing brilliant energy? That's your whole 200,000 thousand right there! And its not even as good as my sword! :P
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 12:11 AM	and I just thought up as an alternative to loxo cohorts, antropomorphic elephants would work as well. hyper, i am hyper, hyper, hyper, hyper this is what happens when u combine a mcflurry and a hot caocoa late at night
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 12:12 AM	holy crap how much with no brilliant energy then.... :mad: :weep: :mad:
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 12:15 AM	It'll cost you 72,000 GP still, though. Actually, since you're an elephant, why not antropomorphic mice? They could intimidate you! :P
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 12:23 AM	lol, but bedtime now c ya all, bye, so long
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 12:26 AM	Guess I've got the whole guild keep to myself (starts whistling as he systematically begins to steal all the silverwear) ...
Dyne 11-25-04, 12:34 AM	Guess I've got the whole guild keep to myself (starts whistling as he systematically begins to steal all the silverwear) ... "Chosen, you better put that silverware down before I rip you in half." Guys, I need you to look something up for me. Can you hover with only an Average flying?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 12:40 AM	In order to hover, you need either the hover feat or perfect manueverability.
Dyne 11-25-04, 12:42 AM	In order to hover, you need either the hover feat or perfect manueverability. I THOUGHT so! Droga was trying to hover 10 ft. above me while he was attacking me with his claws. But, he can't hover! He only has Average maneuverability. Thanks, CotDS.
Dyne 11-25-04, 02:21 AM	Helm Dundragon has been slain in battle. However, he left behind a son to take up the sword. I'm working out stats for Helm's son, I'll post them as soon as possible.
Dyne 11-25-04, 02:49 AM	A man in a purple hooded cloak enters the chamber. He is carrying a corpse. The body is dressed in a purple cloak and white surcoat with the royal crest of Cormyr. The man lays down the corpse and raise his hood. "This is the body of Helm Dundragon, my father. He was honorably slain in battle against Droga. But do not let his death break you. My father would give his life a thousandfold to keep the Purple Dragons from breaking up. For, without you, the borders of Cormyr are undefended, and a terrible evil is allowed to reign freely. I will not allow that to happen. For I am Bren Dundragon, son of Helm, and I will take up my father's sword in his absence. I will not allow the forces of evil to exist unchecked." With that, his eyes swell with tears, and he weeps for the death of his father. For his entire life, he has had to be strong, to be hard, to endure all manner of hardships. But, try as he might, he could never harden his heart. If we have any Clerics in here, and you want to use Raise Dead on Helm, be my guest.
Xen155 11-25-04, 03:57 AM	There is a a worrying lack of Clerics. I am field with Greif at the (lets hope not permanent) death of your father, He was an honerable man. I trust you will be taking up his mantle as head Knight?
Dyne 11-25-04, 04:00 AM	I suggest you guys check out the first post from time to time. I add things and update it occasionally. I just updated it right now.
Dyne 11-25-04, 04:04 AM	There is a a worrying lack of Clerics. I am field with Greif at the (lets hope not permanent) death of your father, He was an honerable man. I trust you will be taking up his mantle as head Knight? "It is my duty to take my father's place. I will not let him die in vain. When the time comes, Droga will suffer for his misdeeds." Bren places several large sacks of gold, platinum, and mythril on the table. This is the wealth my father left behind. 150,000 gold pieces in value. 50,000 will go to the men who lent him the money to cover his expenses in the battle. The other 100,000 gp will be used for the benefit of the Purple Dragons. Xen, you're a member, right? I don't think you're on the members list... nevermind.
Xen155 11-25-04, 04:11 AM	Yes, im a member of the War Wizards Wing of the PDoC. Be wary Bren, I have heard proclomations of Droga's defeat befor. ALL have faild.
Dyne 11-25-04, 04:15 AM	Yes, im a member of the War Wizards Wing of the PDoC. Be wary Bren, I have heard proclomations of Droga's defeat befor. ALL have faild. "You will find that I am not like the others. I am not as rash in my actions. I do not foolishly throw myself at my enemies without a good strategy. My father fought admirably, but he failed because one part of his plan was off-set by Droga's additions to his inventory." Bren is not outspoken. In fact, he is rather quiet and reserved. He prefers to not answer those who would argue with him, giving them the right to their opinion. However, if the issue to be argued is a critical issue that involves the lives of many, he will argue his point across to hell and back.
Demonfey 11-25-04, 10:13 AM	Let me work some of my magic, then. {With that, he takes some remaining blood and begins a clone. He disappears, and then returns about an hour later with a fully formed clone.} It is ready for an inhabitant. Wow. Crowley could actually get along with your character.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 01:03 PM	Let me work some of my magic, then. {With that, he takes some remaining blood and begins a clone. He disappears, and then returns about an hour later with a fully formed clone.} It is ready for an inhabitant. Wow. Crowley could actually get along with your character. SWEET!
Demonfey 11-25-04, 01:05 PM	To explain time, he went to a dimension with a fast temporal zone.
Holy_Man 11-25-04, 01:58 PM	as i was looking over the previous posts I saw that you think that there is no chance that Dyne could win against you with his cohots. I dont think so chosen of the ds. you underestimate the power of the paladin class, with divine spells a paladin is pretty powerful, and with cohorts possibly even as strong as he is, he's probably got a fighting chance against you chosen
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 02:14 PM	Actually, you seriously underestimate marshalls and overestimate paladins. For one, a lot of his abilities such as smite evil would be useless against me, since I'm lawful good and none of my cohorts or followers are evil. Second, a lot of paladin spells are useful, but not only do they either come to late to be truly and overwhelmingly effective, but a lot of them are used against evil and chaos, which, once again, is useless against me. So is his swords holy ability. Then you have my auras, and when I'm using a major aura myself and all my folowers get a +6 bonus on the appropriate checks, including the hardy soldiers which would give all my troops (not me though, sadly) DR 6/-, and motivate attack, which gives them +6 to attack in melee. And my minor auras are still a +4. My character is also half-dragon, with a 6d8 breath weapon, immunity to fire, and, thanks to my sword, cold resistance 10. I told you that class was good when I showed it to you the other day. :D
Holy_Man 11-25-04, 03:49 PM	hey, im looking in the forgotten realms campaign setting thing, where do i find what special abilities I get for worshipping a certain major diety
Dyne 11-25-04, 03:54 PM	Actually, you seriously underestimate marshalls and overestimate paladins. For one, a lot of his abilities such as smite evil would be useless against me, since I'm lawful good and none of my cohorts or followers are evil. Second, a lot of paladin spells are useful, but not only do they either come to late to be truly and overwhelmingly effective, but a lot of them are used against evil and chaos, which, once again, is useless against me. So is his swords holy ability. Then you have my auras, and when I'm using a major aura myself and all my folowers get a +6 bonus on the appropriate checks, including the hardy soldiers which would give all my troops (not me though, sadly) DR 6/-, and motivate attack, which gives them +6 to attack in melee. And my minor auras are still a +4. My character is also half-dragon, with a 6d8 breath weapon, immunity to fire, and, thanks to my sword, cold resistance 10. I told you that class was good when I showed it to you the other day. :D Chosen, how the heck are you giving +6 for Major Auras? Looking at the Marshal class here, the maximum is +4 at level 20. You're level 11 right? So, you'd get +2 on all Major Aura abilities. For Major Auras, you don't add the Charisma mod, if that's what you were doing. By-the-way, I was gonna make my cohort a Marshal. Demonfey, is that clone for Bren, or who? EDIT: Again, on the "me vs. CotDS: who would win?" subject. My character is not just a Paladin, he has levels in Purple Dragon Knight, which gives him special abilities. Helm also had levels in Divine Champion, which would also be handy.
Holy_Man 11-25-04, 04:12 PM	Hey, I also think the cotDS has a good chance against you, Dyne, Im pretty sure it would be an even match. On another subject, what class do you think i should be. Im leaning towards paladin. Also, dyne, what are the rules for the full blade?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 04:14 PM	Oops, I was thinkin' that I added my charisma bonus to major auras as well. I'm still frikkin' powerful though. However, the point is moot, since we are both on the same side and have the same alignment.
turalisj 11-25-04, 04:37 PM	cotds-want to have a friendly little match? we could have it right outside the purple dragon's castle. *pulls out his fullblade*
Holy_Man 11-25-04, 04:41 PM	cotds-want to have a friendly little match? we could have it right outside the purple dragon's castle. *pulls out his fullblade* hey, how do u fight people, where do you go? and also, what race are you?
Silmarien Aldalome 11-25-04, 04:53 PM	hey, im looking in the forgotten realms campaign setting thing, where do i find what special abilities I get for worshipping a certain major diety Happy Thanks Giving everyone. Hi there Holy Man Which major deity and what PC or PrC. Silmarien bows before the Holy Man, seeing that his heart is True. She says "The Shadow Lords haunt Realmspace with an Abomination. The Skygge Artifact corrupts the souls of the good irrevocably. This monstrosity is in metadimensional space. It is a giant, fanged skull, that may transmit power remotely to Skygge followers. The users of Shadow Weave cloak themselves in Shar's powers from the Void and with her Necromancy. The Half-Elves have Silverstarfire Lore - which is akin to Elven High Magic, but it is distinct. What Lore do you seek, Holy Man" OK - gotta go to work - but I'm stav, one of three GM's and please PM me or continue the discussion here. I'll attend to it later. Regards to you from Oz (not in Crocadile Dundee image) Stav
Holy_Man 11-25-04, 04:56 PM	I am a follower of torm
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 05:24 PM	Turalisj: sure I'll fight, when? And I still can't get the stupid die-roller working!
Demonfey 11-25-04, 05:30 PM	Chosen, how the heck are you giving +6 for Major Auras? Looking at the Marshal class here, the maximum is +4 at level 20. You're level 11 right? So, you'd get +2 on all Major Aura abilities. For Major Auras, you don't add the Charisma mod, if that's what you were doing. By-the-way, I was gonna make my cohort a Marshal. Demonfey, is that clone for Bren, or who? EDIT: Again, on the "me vs. CotDS: who would win?" subject. My character is not just a Paladin, he has levels in Purple Dragon Knight, which gives him special abilities. Helm also had levels in Divine Champion, which would also be handy. Helm. I don't remember anything saying that the clone had to be of someone ALIVE.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 05:36 PM	Is there some othe die roller we can use, cause the one we;re supposed to use doesn't work.
Holy_Man 11-25-04, 06:11 PM	What page is the leadership description on in the dmg?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 06:18 PM	Leadership is on page 106 of the DMG.
turalisj 11-25-04, 06:31 PM	try the die roller again. oh, and my weapon is about as big as i am.............scary, isnt it?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 07:07 PM	So is Holy Man's in our home campaign. I'll try it again.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 07:12 PM	Yo back on again.....
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 07:34 PM	I am so crazy, i think i may end up back where i started, a CG aasimar bard/virtuoso with tonnes of cohorts :invasion: :hoppingma :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!:
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 07:37 PM	We're against chaos, so no chaotic good, preferably. Any other good is fine.
turalisj 11-25-04, 07:37 PM	@cotds- try filling out all the fields :cool:
Droga 11-25-04, 07:39 PM	I am so crazy, i think i may end up back where i started, a CG aasimar bard/virtuoso with tonnes of cohorts :invasion: :hoppingma :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: :fight!: I don't think anybody is gonna beat Orcy in the cohort/follower area...
turalisj 11-25-04, 07:43 PM	We're against chaos, so no chaotic good, preferably. Any other good is fine. um, the skygge hunters are all chaotic good.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 07:45 PM	Yes, but the Purple Dragon Knights are Lawful.
Droga 11-25-04, 07:46 PM	Heh, still calling yourself a skygge hunter? You wouldnt be able to kill an unconcious skygge :P
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 07:52 PM	Just so you know, Grin Reaper,you don'tneed to tell us when you're on. Thats what the green light is for.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 07:52 PM	yes, and i thought of the prefect way to accomidate that my assimar was a bard with virtuoso levels, was then converted to lawful, say by..... something and became a paladin and purple dragon knight this works b/c bards dont lose ablitys for becoming lawful, they just cant advance, and i could still advance in virtuoso, no alignment req there
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 07:54 PM	Oh well, I say im on any way, b/c i feel like it.......
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 08:02 PM	Grin Reaper, wanna' fight at the arena? Just practice, no kills, just KO.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 08:03 PM	as soon as i fix my char again lol sure
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-25-04, 08:16 PM	I'm currently making a backup character in case Keld gets killed in a fight sometime.
Xen155 11-25-04, 08:24 PM	Do we have an artifact yet?
Dyne 11-25-04, 08:25 PM	Helm. I don't remember anything saying that the clone had to be of someone ALIVE. From the SRD: To create the duplicate, you must have a piece of flesh (not hair, nails, scales, or the like) with a volume of at least 1 cubic inch that was taken from the original creature’s living body. I think that means that you would have needed to take a sample before he was slain. Oh well, I don't need two PC's for a single foundation. All my cohorts/followers would easily get into the hundreds.
turalisj 11-25-04, 08:27 PM	as soon as i fix my char again lol sure you may have to wait until i'm done fighting him :D :cool: :P
Dyne 11-25-04, 08:29 PM	Do we have an artifact yet? Nope. It hasn't come up. The closest thing I've got is the sword "Justice", which was Helm's sword and is now Bren's. It's not that great now, only a +5 Holy Bastard Sword, but I'll add abilities to it as I gain wealth.
Xen155 11-25-04, 08:32 PM	Dyne, I noticed you had a Soldier List, May I suggest creating a War Wizard List. If you do decide to do so, me and my three cohorts would go there, there on the statistics thread. Also, is it alright if a say my army is stationed here. It is as follows: 225 1st level Warriors 22 2nd level Warriors 12 3rd level Warriors 7 4th level Warriors 5 5th level Warriors 2 6th level Warriors (2 sorcs and a charismatic loremaster make this army this size)
Droga 11-25-04, 08:38 PM	1st level followers have to be an NPC class I think. Unless that changed or something...
Xen155 11-25-04, 08:42 PM	I did not know that, where does the DMG say that?
Dyne 11-25-04, 08:44 PM	I did not know that, where does the DMG say that? Under the Leadership feat, it says that 1st-level Followers must be either Warriors, Experts, or Commoners.
Xen155 11-25-04, 08:45 PM	Thankyou, I shall alter my post accordingly. And about my war wizard idea?
Dyne 11-25-04, 09:02 PM	Thankyou, I shall alter my post accordingly. And about my war wizard idea? But, how are your Followers War Wizards if they only have levels in Fighter? EDIT: I just got an idea. Have any of you heard of a War Wizard PrC? If none exists, I think we should make one up. EDIT2: BTW, Xen, War Wizards are still "soldiers". They just fight with spells instead of swords. I suppose I could put two sub-sections under Soldier Roster for Purple Dragons and War Wizards or something. EDIT3: Xen, I think only 1st-level Followers have to be either Warriors, Experts, or Commoners. Followers that are higher than 1st-level can be of any class (at least, that's what Orcy said).
Xen155 11-25-04, 09:06 PM	No no no, that is just my military, the Only war wizards are my self and my cohort and his cohort and his cohort. Xen, Jokai, Dudone, and Talsue (who is, by the way, a non-combatant).
Dyne 11-25-04, 09:07 PM	No no no, that is just my military, the Only war wizards are my self and my cohort and his cohort and his cohort. Xen, Jokai, Dudone, and Talsue (who is, by the way, a non-combatant). Not if Dyne joins (he IS afterall the Archmage of War).
Xen155 11-25-04, 09:09 PM	Of course, and the Arch-Mage of law eargerly awaits his revivale, until then though these are the only War Wizards.
Dyne 11-25-04, 09:11 PM	Of course, and the Arch-Mage of law eargerly awaits his revivale, until then though these are the only War Wizards. They are still part of the same organization as the other Purple Dragons. Unless, you claim that they are not members of this foundation.
Xen155 11-25-04, 09:14 PM	No No, the War Wizards should just be a branch of the PDoC. They are (in my opinion) the same foundation.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 09:20 PM	Yes true war wizards are a faction of the orginization, and ive been wondering why no one did a war wizard PrC, which is a great idea! Oh and my character is up again, mostly (again)
Dyne 11-25-04, 09:21 PM	No No, the War Wizards should just be a branch of the PDoC. They are (in my opinion) the same foundation. But they are still a branch of the Military of Cormyr. They are still Soldiers. I'll put in a sub-heading under the Soldier Roster for War Wizards. Your character as well as his cohorts will be put there, but the others will be classified under the other soldiers (since they are effectively no different). Currently, you are the leader of the War Wizards branch. EDIT: Xen, what are the levels and classes of your character and his cohorts? Also, all of your followers that are above 1st-level don't have to be NPC classes.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-25-04, 09:29 PM	well, any hoo, ive got stuff to do so bye...
Xen155 11-25-04, 10:08 PM	But they are still a branch of the Military of Cormyr. They are still Soldiers. I'll put in a sub-heading under the Soldier Roster for War Wizards. Your character as well as his cohorts will be put there, but the others will be classified under the other soldiers (since they are effectively no different). Currently, you are the leader of the War Wizards branch. EDIT: Xen, what are the levels and classes of your character and his cohorts? Also, all of your followers that are above 1st-level don't have to be NPC classes. Chohorts: Jokai-13 Sorc Dudone- 11 Sorc Talsue-5 Wiz 5 Lore Master Excellent, ok My revised Military 225 1st level Warriors 22 2nd level Fighters 12 3rd level Fighters 7 4th level Fighters 5 5th level Fighters 2 6th level Fighters
Xen155 11-25-04, 10:10 PM	Dyne, I didn't relize how many Cohorts you had, Im gonna make some more. Do you have the stats for all yours?
Dyne 11-25-04, 10:11 PM	Chohorts: Jokai-14 Sorc Dudone-13 Sorc Talsue-5 Wiz 7 Lore Master Excellent, ok My revised Military 225 1st level Warriors 22 2nd level Fighters 12 3rd level Fighters 7 4th level Fighters 5 5th level Fighters 2 6th level Fighters I take it Jokai is your cohort, Dudone is Jokai's cohort, and Talsue is Dudone's cohort? Each one has to be at least 2 levels lower than the one above them. So, if you're level 15, your cohort cannot be higher than level 13, his cohort can't be higher than level 11, and his cohort can't be higher than level 9.
Xen155 11-25-04, 10:22 PM	Is that in 3.5 because in 3.0 it hust states you cant have one greater than or equal to your level.
Dyne 11-25-04, 10:24 PM	Is that in 3.5 because in 3.0 it hust states you cant have one greater than or equal to your level. From the 3.5 SRD: Cohort Level: The character can attract a cohort of up to this level. Regardless of a character’s Leadership score, he can only recruit a cohort who is two or more levels lower than himself. We're going by 3.5 rules for the IFWG, so the SRD overrules other sources that it conflicts with. Anyway, in both versions, the level of your cohort depends mainly on your Leadership score. Unless you had a Charisma of 20 something, you wouldn't be able to have a cohort of that level anyway.
Xen155 11-25-04, 10:28 PM	Very well I shall lower my cohorts levels, my question still stands though, do you have stats for all your cohorts?
turalisj 11-25-04, 10:32 PM	i have a 13th level ranger/marshal. he has a 11th level marshal/ranger cohort, and so on. in turn each of them control a diffrent outpost.
Dyne 11-25-04, 10:35 PM	Very well I shall lower my cohorts levels, my question still stands though, do you have stats for all your cohorts? Yes. Their levels are posted on the Soldier Roster underneath Bren Dundragon (my PC). Dorn Tallstag: Marshal 8/Purple Dragon Knight 5 (Bren's cohort) Darvin Greycastle: Paladin 6/Fighter 2/Purple Dragon Knight 2 (Dorn's cohort) Evendur Amblecrown: Paladin 6/Purple Dragon Knight 2 (Darvin's cohort) Stedd Buckman: Paladin3/Cleric 3 (Evendur's cohort) Morn Evenwood: Wizard 4 (Stedd's cohort) I haven't totally finished all their stats, and their levels may change.
Xen155 11-25-04, 10:37 PM	Ok, I've just decided to make a cohorts list. Joaki-14th Sorc Dudone-12th Sorc Talsue-5th Wiz, 5th Lore Master Magnulf-8th Wiz Piilis- 6th Rouge Agen- 4th Fighter (just remebered im 16th level)
Dyne 11-25-04, 11:06 PM	Ok, I've just decided to make a cohorts list. Joaki-13th Sorc Dudone-11th Sorc Talsue-5th Wiz, 5th Lore Master Magnulf-8th Wiz Piilis- 6th Rouge Agen- 4th Fighter Pardon, but I think Talsue is supposed to be level 9, since his "master" is level 11. Magnulf, Piilis, and Agen would have to be adjusted accordingly, as well. All right, I'm gonna work on the Soldier Roster now.... EDIT: Xen, I just added a Scouts slot for your cohort Piilis. He will probably serve a special role in the Purple Dragons.
Dyne 11-26-04, 01:42 AM	I want to get back to our original topic: Purple Dragon High Knight Prestige Class. Does anyone here have Annual Dragon Issue #4? If not, do you guys want to try to create our own version of this prestige class? P.S. CotDS, T'nyagah's cohort is level 8, when he is level 9.
Xen155 11-26-04, 01:45 AM	I propose we create our own.
Xen155 11-26-04, 03:28 AM	First of all, what kind of PRC are we attempting to make?
Holy_Man 11-26-04, 10:35 AM	Cotds, I need you to role my hp, i cant dl anything, my hit die is d10, and role that 15 times plz, also, how do all of you people fight?
Dyne 11-26-04, 12:01 PM	Cotds, I need you to role my hp, i cant dl anything, my hit die is d10, and role that 15 times plz, also, how do all of you people fight? For HP, we use averages, not die rolls, to make certain everything stays even. So, for a d10, that would either be 5 HP per level or 5.5 HP per level (I have to ask Sil about that).
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-26-04, 01:26 PM	P.S. CotDS, T'nyagah's cohort is level 8, when he is level 9. I'll have to work on that later, don't have time right now. I'm just checking the boards really fast before getting back to stuff.
Holy_Man 11-26-04, 03:39 PM	gtg, b back by 7:30
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 06:26 PM	An noble human with chiseled features, and expensive clothes waltz's in, with a large group of excited men and woman of many different races following, and the man says "I am varien, a noble servitor of my lord helm (he dosnt know helm is gone), I have been off on a mission with my followers and have come upon a strategy to defeat skyyge."
turalisj 11-26-04, 08:02 PM	really? i was going to go straight at the weakest point of many, thier mind. oh, and my cohort's cohort is a giant eagle(he's a wood elf so that works)
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 08:21 PM	lol, same i was gonna invisibility and silence my self cast ambient song and fortissimo use bardic music facinate followed by a suggestion to drown himself or something and voila but even better i could suggest he put on a helm of opposite alignment
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 08:24 PM	ambient song causes bardic music to take on natural qualitys, like chirping of birds, etc. and fortissimo adds 2 to the dc of the affect and with all that my minimum dc is :bigeyes: 37! :D for the facinate and suggestion and now i g2g...
Droga 11-26-04, 10:02 PM	Yes... because you can use bardic music when you happen to be silenced?
Demonfey 11-26-04, 10:04 PM	The stalking spell is much better. You are invisible, silenced, and untraceable via scent.
turalisj 11-26-04, 10:06 PM	@droga-can you post a link to the skygge?
Droga 11-26-04, 10:08 PM	No, because they arent posted.
turalisj 11-26-04, 10:34 PM	then could you post them incase someone else wants to play as them?
Droga 11-26-04, 10:54 PM	nope, I've been over this... they arent going to be posted.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:39 PM	no, I cant but u forgot about ambient song, I can turn natural sounds into bardic music effects
turalisj 11-26-04, 11:40 PM	skygge slayer roster: 1st lvl rangers:48 2nd lvl rangers: 4(2 two weapon fighting styles, 2 ranged fighting styles) 3rd lvl rangers: 2(1 of each fighting style) 4th lvl rangers: 1 5th lvl rangers: 1 total:56 all of the skygge slayers have evil outsider as thier favored enemy. the reason i wanted to have 4th level rangers instead of 1st level ones is because the skygge slayers are supposed to be a strike team/mercanary group. owell.
Dyne 11-26-04, 11:41 PM	no, I cant but u forgot about ambient song, I can turn natural sounds into bardic music effects I thought Silence dissipates all sound in the area of the spell. So, in the part where you were, you wouldn't be able to make ANY sound, whether it be by yourself or by clicking some rocks together. Well, since none of us have the Purple Dragon High Knight PrC, we should create our own. What do you guys think?
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:45 PM	Yes, but i wouldnt be making the sound, thats what ambient song does, birds, or crickets, or wind would be creating the effect
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:46 PM	and i agree, and as to the name, how about purple dragon general
Demonfey 11-26-04, 11:47 PM	But don't you have to be able to cast to do that?
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:48 PM	i could silence myself after casting it...... lol
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:49 PM	or i could have a contigency set up for it
Dyne 11-26-04, 11:50 PM	i could silence myself after casting it...... lol Mr_GrinReaper, Silence silences all sound within the area. It doesn't matter if it's by you. Even if a meteor were to strike the world in the area of the Silence spell, it wouldn't make a sound.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:51 PM	its a 15 ft radius, i would silence only myself, not the Skyyge, so he would still hear the bardic music
Mr_GrinReaper 11-26-04, 11:53 PM	well i g2g, man i can never stay on the forums for a very long time well see ya
Dyne 11-26-04, 11:54 PM	its a 15 ft radius, i would silence only myself, not the Skyyge, so he would still hear the bardic music SRD: Upon the casting of this spell, complete silence prevails in the affected area. All sound is stopped: Conversation is impossible, spells with verbal components cannot be cast, and no noise whatsoever issues from, enters, or passes through the area. So, unless you were tossing things 20 ft. away to try and make sound, the Skygge wouldn't here anything from within those 20 ft. EDIT: Actually, the area is 20 ft. EDIT2: I read through your plan. Suggestion gives a saving throw, correct? Well, I believe it would be pretty difficult to get him with it since all his saves are more than +20.
Demonfey 11-26-04, 11:55 PM	He actually made a good point about it. He can make sounds like, oh, lets say the crowd be music.
Dyne 11-27-04, 12:08 AM	Some interesting ideas. But, you better hope the Skygge doesn't get too close. Droga, for one, likes to get into melee.
turalisj 11-27-04, 12:13 AM	hmm, i wonder how my character would fair against him....i have the best melee weapon you can get, the fullblade, and i have a great amount of ac.
Dyne 11-27-04, 12:16 AM	hmm, i wonder how my character would fair against him....i have the best melee weapon you can get, the fullblade, and i have a great amount of ac. Turalisj, it would be interesting to have a match between Bren and your character. But, maybe some other time. It's getting pretty late here, so I'll have to go in a bit.
turalisj 11-27-04, 12:17 AM	mybe tommarrow then? oh, and my fullblade does originally 2d10 damage because of its size. not something you want to mess around with.
Dyne 11-27-04, 12:20 AM	mybe tommarrow then? oh, and my fullblade does originally 2d10 damage because of its size. not something you want to mess around with. How the? Turalisj, are you a member of the Purple Dragons? And I see that you haven't started a thread for the Skygge Slayers. Perhaps we could just combine them into this one thread?
turalisj 11-27-04, 12:47 AM	the fullblade is a huge weapon,18 inches larger then the bastardsword, so you cant use it w/out proficiency, not even 2-handed. large creatures can wield it two handed, but with all the penalties an such. and i am thinking of changing the name of my group since the skygge slayers dont go after skygge specifically.
Dyne 11-27-04, 12:51 AM	the fullblade is a huge weapon,18 inches larger then the bastardsword, so you cant use it w/out proficiency, not even 2-handed. large creatures can wield it two handed, but with all the penalties an such. and i am thinking of changing the name of my group since the skygge slayers dont go after skygge specifically. How can you wield the weapon without being Huge size?
Demonfey 11-27-04, 12:57 AM	There is the monkey grip feat.
Dyne 11-27-04, 12:59 AM	There is the monkey grip feat. Wait, is it a Huge Bastard Sword? You could just take a Large Greatsword with Monkey Grip and get 2d6 damage without any penalty. A Huge Bastard Sword with Monkey Grip I believe gets 2d10 damage with a -2 penalty to attack. EDIT: A Large Great Sword does more damage than 2d6. I forget how many, I think 2d8 or something. EDIT2: A Large Great Sword does 3d6 damage. A Huge Bastard Sword does 3d8 damage.
turalisj 11-27-04, 01:05 AM	its a huge exotic weapon. my character, turalisj, has weapon proficiency with it. he wields it with two hands, thus he doesnt have any shields. the weapon is from the arms and equipment guide.
Dyne 11-27-04, 01:07 AM	its a huge exotic weapon. my character, turalisj, has weapon proficiency with it. he wields it with two hands, thus he doesnt have any shields. the weapon is from the arms and equipment guide. Hmmm. I have to get that book. For the PrC. What abilities do you think it would have?
turalisj 11-27-04, 02:32 AM	have to has so and so levels of purple knight, must have a bab of atleast +11, be lwaful good, and have pledged eternal alligence to whoever rules over cormyr.
Dyne 11-27-04, 03:14 PM	have to has so and so levels of purple knight, must have a bab of atleast +11, be lwaful good, and have pledged eternal alligence to whoever rules over cormyr. Probably should make it 5 level of Purple Dragon Knight, since they shouldn't be able to advance until they take all levels in the first PrC. Also, maybe some more Ride ranks, since the Purple Dragon Knight requires it and people from Cormyr are usually good at riding a horse.
Holy_Man 11-27-04, 06:32 PM	Hey cotDS, do you want to have a practice fight round? Im ready for ya.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-27-04, 06:43 PM	@Holy Man Don't have time now, have to do stuff. As to the Purple Dragon High Knight, make it require the ability to use one of the Purple Dragon Knight abilities, and I would also say it should require the Leadership feat and at least a 18 leadership score.
Holy_Man 11-27-04, 06:51 PM	Listen, everybody, Im not going to post my character really anymore, Im going to write him down on a Character sheet, but I will post him when the Player Statistics and character thread becomes sticky, and if any one asks me for my char, ill post a shorter version of it, also, is it ok if im a ghost?
Dyne 11-28-04, 02:22 AM	Listen, everybody, Im not going to post my character really anymore, Im going to write him down on a Character sheet, but I will post him when the Player Statistics and character thread becomes sticky, and if any one asks me for my char, ill post a shorter version of it, also, is it ok if im a ghost? Why do you want to be a ghost? Anyway, if you want your character to be a ghost, then he can be. Guys, there is going to be a tournament at the Mountain Top Arena. 3 members from each foundations will battle it out in KO matches for a reward.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-28-04, 12:08 PM	I'm in if I can use my new character instead of Keld. I think I'm gonna' have Keld be an NPC, since my new one is better thought out. I'll do ,it either way, but I'd prefer my new guy.
Holy_Man 11-28-04, 01:02 PM	Why do you want to be a ghost? Anyway, if you want your character to be a ghost, then he can be. I want to be a ghost for their extremely good abilities and it's almost impossible to kill one
Holy_Man 11-28-04, 01:14 PM	Ill go in for that tournament if there is still a space open for me.
Holy_Man 11-28-04, 08:32 PM	I am going to create a guild, I was just wondering, Dyne, if you could give me any information on how to make one, It will probably be a Paladins Guild.
Dyne 11-28-04, 08:38 PM	I am going to create a guild, I was just wondering, Dyne, if you could give me any information on how to make one, It will probably be a Paladins Guild. Paladins Guild? I'm not sure if that's really necessary, since the Purple Dragons are basically a Paladins Guild. But, if you want to make a foundation of your own, just start a new thread. Put in whatever you want, including descriptive text about your stronghold or whatever. You could have a Members List and a Library for your creations if you want.
Demonfey 11-29-04, 07:16 PM	Great. Another group to pester...
Mr_GrinReaper 11-29-04, 07:26 PM	lol... hmmmmm.... and i re looked over my strategy and decided to scrap silence... and for the last time ambient song has nothing to do with me playing its birds singing or wind blowing, i dont have to do anything... and even though he has +20 or more on all his saves my minimium dc to save is 38 and thats if i roll a one but anyhoo............. whats up... I do agree with DotDC's class req. except maybe add a few ranks of ride, and the spirited charge feat, since thats building on the mounted combat feat requisite for the PDN PrC
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-29-04, 07:33 PM	But I do believe it should require the Leadership feat, since it is a general after all.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-29-04, 07:52 PM	yes i agreed with you on the leadership feat, and it should require the ability to use inspire courage or final stand as a class feature so you'd either have to be a purple dragon knight or a extremly specialized bard. ah and there should be a BAB req, like +11/+6/+1
Mr_GrinReaper 11-29-04, 07:55 PM	And since i dont have DMG, id rather not wait till this weekend to find out cohorts and followers, how many do i get if i have a leadership score of 26 (command armor, +10 cha mod, 14 HD) ty if u look it up but i dont care if u dont
turalisj 11-29-04, 08:09 PM	that would give you 175 1st level recruits, 20 2nd lvl, 10 3rd lvl, 1 4th, 1 5th, and 1 6th level.
Droga 11-29-04, 08:17 PM	Actually its... 135 level 1, 13 level 2, 7 level 3, 4 level 4, 2 level 5, and 2 level 6 followers. At least from the DMG is says that.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-29-04, 08:22 PM	Actually its... 135 level 1, 13 level 2, 7 level 3, 4 level 4, 2 level 5, and 2 level 6 followers. At least from the DMG is says that. Holy... :twitch: :blink: :shocked: :looloo: :OMG! :pint: :bigeyes: :uh-huh:
Droga 11-29-04, 08:32 PM	Man... Orcy has 824 followers and cohorts... now THAT is insane man...
Demonfey 11-29-04, 08:34 PM	Man... Orcy has 824 followers and cohorts... now THAT is insane man... :whatsthis :mymy: :eek: :OMG! :OMG! :OMG! :twitch: :blink:
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-29-04, 08:36 PM	Man... Orcy has 824 followers and cohorts... now THAT is insane man... :confused: :uh-huh: :bigeyes: :thinks: :shocked: :drool: :looloo: :crazy: :gah: :blink: :twitch: :mymy: :OMG! :ghosted: Look at this thread, just over a week old and it is already 300+ posts! :clap:
Dyne 11-29-04, 09:30 PM	Orcy has that many because he's an Orc Warlord, and his cohort's and Orc Warlord, and HIS cohort's an Orc Warlord, and so on. And Orc Warlords get double the number of followers.
Demonfey 11-29-04, 09:57 PM	But still...
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-29-04, 10:39 PM	But still... Yeah...
Holy_Man 11-30-04, 06:01 PM	Is it possible for a guild to die? I havent been able to go onto the guild because of other distractions, is My guild deleted?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 11-30-04, 06:07 PM	Is it possible for a guild to die? I havent been able to go onto the guild because of other distractions, is My guild deleted? No, check the second page of the Guild House. If it isn't there, check the third page. Edit: I just saw it on the first page.
Dyne 11-30-04, 06:12 PM	Is it possible for a guild to die? I havent been able to go onto the guild because of other distractions, is My guild deleted? Your guild is still on the first page, just a little bit down the list. Also, threads don't get deleted unless there is a serious violation.
turalisj 11-30-04, 06:48 PM	arent any of you going to bet on me to win? :(
Dyne 11-30-04, 07:50 PM	arent any of you going to bet on me to win? :( Sorry, Turalisj. Bren doesn't believe in gambling. Neither does Dyne. Aseir, the Shadow Adept, is more than happy to wager on a good match, but he would rather you lost (sorry, he is NE). Alak is a behind-the-scenes kind of guy, plus he can't go out in the sun (he's a vampire).
turalisj 11-30-04, 07:54 PM	great....and now i can't even hit sssargoth... it's just as bad as when droga used the iron bands on you dyne. almost no way to fight back.
Dyne 11-30-04, 07:56 PM	great....and now i can't even hit sssargoth... it's just as bad as when droga used the iron bands on you dyne. almost no way to fight back. I know, sucks. I can't really do anything about it, no matter how much I'd like to help.
Droga 11-30-04, 10:52 PM	Does Turalisj complain everywhere when he loses? Is he going to change over to red dragon slayers now? Maybe he can finally get over it and start hunting something else he cant kill.
Mr_GrinReaper 11-30-04, 11:02 PM	lol, yeah, not to be mean to him but he stood no chance against u.... and nor do i, unless i get my cohorts...
turalisj 11-30-04, 11:14 PM	i woul've destroyed sssargoth if he stayed on the ground. atleast you stay where we can hit you. he just flits through the air.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-01-04, 06:51 PM	Yeah, which is seriously cheap.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-01-04, 07:29 PM	true, but if he had done that to me i would have suggested that he land and stay on the ground.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-01-04, 07:31 PM	CotDS check these variant base classes out they rock, and they are really well balanced and customizable. Ultimate Barbarian Ultimate Bard Ultimate Cleric Ultimate Druid Ultimate Fighter Ultimate Incarnate Ultimate Knight Ultimate Monk Ultimate Paladin Ultimate Ranger Ultimate Rogue Ultimate Scourge Ultimate Sorcerer Ultimate Wizard
turalisj 12-01-04, 07:45 PM	i know what my next character is going to be! a 10th lvl ultimate rouge with 5 lvls of assasin! >=D
Orcy The Green Wonder 12-01-04, 07:47 PM	Orcy would suggest first posting the links to those classes on the metathread, so everyone can decide if they want them to be allowed. Since many people are already using the normal, unmodified class.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-01-04, 07:59 PM	Will do Orcy, but i dont plan to use one, just was showing a friend. now i think i should just pmed them but o well
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-01-04, 08:00 PM	Sweet variants...
Demonfey 12-01-04, 08:02 PM	Under the player thread would probably be best.
Demonfey 12-01-04, 08:47 PM	Would anyone here care to join the Children of the Planes? I am trying to lead its revival.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-01-04, 08:57 PM	sure, ill join...
Demonfey 12-01-04, 09:01 PM	Great! Thanks, Mr. GrinReaper!
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-01-04, 09:23 PM	Me Love Variant Base Classes!! :D
Demonfey 12-01-04, 09:39 PM	Turalisj, this would be good for you as well.
Dyne 12-02-04, 05:21 PM	I know I'm rather behind, but what happened in the battle between Turalisj and Sssargoth? Who won? And Turalisj, I know it sucks, but losing is part of the learning experience. It gives you a chance to see what different style of fighting people use, and it gives you a chance to prepare for the next fight. For starters, you should give your character something to defend against flight.
Dyne 12-02-04, 05:46 PM	Bren, the Knight of the Purple Dragon calls the Purple Dragons of Cormyr together for a meeting to discuss important business regarding the foundation. "Welcome Purple Dragons, I have something I need to talk with you about. It regards Rankings and Positions within the Purple Dragons. We need a Rankings and Positions standard to govern the way our foundation works and to solidify the Chain of Command. Here are my thoughts so far:" Rankings: These will largely be based on the Ranking System employed by the United States Army (since I am most familliar with it). The system we will use will be slightly different because our army functions slightly differently than the U.S. Army. These will be the ranks we will employ: Private (or Soldier or Infantry if you prefer a different name) Corporal Sergeant Master Sergeant Lieutenant Captain The Big Cheese (AKA Bren Dundragon, the leader) I have not completely thought up what to call the top rank. It could either be General, Colonel, The Purple Dragon, The Knight of the Purple Dragon, or something else. These different ranks also fit into the Positions within the Organization of the army. Organization: Squad Platoon Company Battalion (or The Army, as in the entire foundation's military) Each Position fits into the Organization: Positions: Squad Leader Platoon Sergeant Platoon Leader Lieutenant Company Commander Battalion Commander (or General or The Leader of the Army, basically The Big Cheese) Here's how the whole thing fits together: Squad: Made up of 5 men 4 Soldiers (Privates) 1 Squad Leader (Corporal) Platoon: 4 Squads (20 men) 1 Platoon Sergeant (Sergeant) 1 Platoon Leader (Master Sergeant) Total of 22 men (or some other number) Company: 4 Platoons 1 Lieutenant (Lieutenant) 1 Company Commander (Captain) Total of 90 men (or some other number) The way it's organized is that each group has one leader and one second-in-command, who takes charge in the absence of the leader. I figure that since each of us has around 90 men, we would all be Company Commanders (Captain rank). All the Companies would make up the Battalion, the entire army. Bren, being the leader of the foundation, would be the Battalion Commander. All of us would be equal, except Bren has to coordinate the battles as a general. What do you guys think? I need to take a look at the numbers of followers/cohorts you all have to make it totally fit. Basically, the higher-level characters hold the higher ranks. So, your 1st cohort would probably be your Lieutenant.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-02-04, 06:13 PM	Sounds like a good system. I like it. It looks to work to me.
Dyne 12-02-04, 11:23 PM	Sounds like a good system. I like it. It looks to work to me. If it works for you, then it works for me, Commander. I might make a few changes to what the actual words are, but that is roughly what the Ranking System will be. Each of us is a Company Commander (Captain Rank), so we're all equal. As Threadkeeper, I'm responsible as a leader, so Bren (my character) will be a sort of Battalion Commander, same as Company Commander but responsible for the kind of stuff a general would do. But, I'm really no higher than the rest of you.
turalisj 12-02-04, 11:42 PM	well, i'm just a commander of 1/100th of the whole shadow hunter organization(thats right, i changed the name and now i am working on a prc)
Dyne 12-02-04, 11:45 PM	Turalisj, are you a member here?
Dyne 12-04-04, 03:39 PM	"Purple Dragons, WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU! I will not allow our forces to become idle when the tides of evil are growing. Everyone, fall into formation now. I will now call role to see who is here. When I call your name, please answer. Warstrike, Keld Xen Holy_Man Mr_Grinreaper Turalisj" (sorry Holy_Man and Mr_Grinreaper, I don't know what your characters' names are)
Dyne 12-05-04, 02:57 PM	Bren's face turns bloodred at seeing that not a single member answered him. "Well, then I guess I'm in this alone. But, I will not let the Purple Dragons of Cormyr fail in their duties because their soldiers are too lazy to show up when their commander calls them."
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-05-04, 03:50 PM	Bren's face turns bloodred at seeing that not a single member answered him. "Well, then I guess I'm in this alone. But, I will not let the Purple Dragons of Cormyr fail in their duties because their soldiers are too lazy to show up when their commander calls them." Sorry, I was gone for a while and I couldn't check the boards. Just got back.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-05-04, 03:53 PM	AAAAAh!!! "Sorrry!" Varein exclaims, waltzing in as always, "I have been dealing with certain matters of importance." "My appologies, sire." My appologies, ive been busy these past few days, and havnt reallly been able to get on except only a few times.
Mr_GrinReaper 12-05-04, 03:55 PM	LOL.... Cotds, thats uncanny! u posted at about the same time i did!
Dyne 12-05-04, 08:00 PM	"Good, at least some of you showed up. Do you know where Holy_Man is?" (or what his character's name is?)
turalisj 12-05-04, 08:20 PM	turalisj and sirianth walk in, shoulder to shoulder. "greetings, i am sorry for my absents here. i had to travel to sharn in order to present what i had learned here. this is sirianth. my good friend and the leader of the special forces division of the shadow hunters. he is also a master psion."
Dyne 12-05-04, 08:23 PM	turalisj and sirianth walk in, shoulder to shoulder. "greetings, i am sorry for my absents here. i had to travel to sharn in order to present what i had learned here. this is sirianth. my good friend and the leader of the special forces division of the shadow hunters. he is also a master psion." Turalisj, I believe I've asked before. Are you actually a member of this foundation? I don't think you've ever said that you wanted to join. Are the Shadow Hunters an ally of the Purple Dragons, or are they a branch of the Purple Dragons, or what?
turalisj 12-05-04, 08:27 PM	the shadow hunters are allies of the purple dragons. i act as a represenative between the shadow hunters and the purple dragons. what the high council tells me, i tell the dragons. what i hear here, i tell the high council. so in truth the answer to q#1 is both, yes and no.
Xen155 12-05-04, 10:43 PM	The War Wizards propose that we begin on the Magical defenses of the Keep. It's been a while, been busy. By the way Dyne, my Char is a 10wiz 5 verse.
Dyne 12-05-04, 11:01 PM	The War Wizards propose that we begin on the Magical defenses of the Keep. It's been a while, been busy. By the way Dyne, my Char is a 10wiz 5 verse. I thought you were 16th-level? I suppose we should get ready with the defenses and such. Since no one answered my question at the Metathread, I guess we start off with a free stronghold for our foundation. Ours, naturally, will be the biggest castle that can be built. :D Xen, since you're the only Wizard here, I'm counting on you for the majority of the magical protections (such as Guards and Wards or Mage's Private Sanctum). I'll see what Dyne can do as well, since he is a good friend of Bren and an ally of the Purple Dragons.
Xen155 12-05-04, 11:04 PM	Srry, I meant 11th wiz 5th verse. Ok, I'll begin writing up the defenses. Should i worry about gp or should I just make and wait for a response?
Dyne 12-05-04, 11:05 PM	Srry, I meant 11th wiz 5th verse. Ok, I'll begin writing up the defenses. Should i worry about gp or should I just make and wait for a response? Gp? Well, I'm assuming we have to do everything by the rulebook. So, if something costs gp, I think you have to pay the cost. But, just post any idea you have. We can help cover the costs.
Xen155 12-05-04, 11:07 PM	Cool, I'll begin tommorow. Right now im hitting the proverbial hey. g'night everybody!
Silmarien Aldalome 12-06-04, 06:24 AM	I thought you were 16th-level? I suppose we should get ready with the defenses and such. Since no one answered my question at the Metathread, I guess we start off with a free stronghold for our foundation. Ours, naturally, will be the biggest castle that can be built. :D Xen, since you're the only Wizard here, I'm counting on you for the majority of the magical protections (such as Guards and Wards or Mage's Private Sanctum). I'll see what Dyne can do as well, since he is a good friend of Bren and an ally of the Purple Dragons. Your question has been answered on Metathread. In a nutshell, you have either taken or inherited your Foundation environment. Write a history for how you came by it - either by battle or by whatever means sits well with you. You may draw diagrams at home, and spec out the rooms as if it's a real place. Bring it to life with your imagination. I've also posted guidelines for the defences and fortifications that may apply. Stav
turalisj 12-06-04, 07:00 AM	I thought you were 16th-level? I suppose we should get ready with the defenses and such. Since no one answered my question at the Metathread, I guess we start off with a free stronghold for our foundation. Ours, naturally, will be the biggest castle that can be built. :D Xen, since you're the only Wizard here, I'm counting on you for the majority of the magical protections (such as Guards and Wards or Mage's Private Sanctum). I'll see what Dyne can do as well, since he is a good friend of Bren and an ally of the Purple Dragons. too late :P i beat you there. the shadow hunter castle contains 10 demiplanes in it. 9 for the 9 of the high council, and one that serves as a training grounds for the spec ops team.
Dyne 12-07-04, 12:07 AM	too late :P i beat you there. the shadow hunter castle contains 10 demiplanes in it. 9 for the 9 of the high council, and one that serves as a training grounds for the spec ops team. More power to ya. The castle would already exist. The Purple Dragons have existed for a long time. Xen, since you have the Stronhold Builder's Guide, you would be a big help in designing the castle.
Xen155 12-07-04, 12:13 AM	No prob, do you mean the desighn process, if so ill need a description of all the stuff you want and info like that, so PM it to me if its secret.
turalisj 12-07-04, 12:20 AM	i'm going to be getting that guide.......but first sleeep...... :zzz:
TheDarkTide 12-07-04, 01:04 AM	Ah, a Foundation based of my favorit nation. I designed my character a litlle after their former Royal Magician. An old man walks into the Keep. He looks much older than his natural age would suggest (55). As he walks you see he leans heavily on his staff. He has grey hair and a long grey beard. He seems slightly tired as he adresses you. Greetings, I wish to join this Foundation as a member of the War Wizards wing. He says bluntly, to old and tired to deal with long conversation.
redhase 12-07-04, 04:43 PM	Any ward or glyph you put up will not stop that which was before the universe was made, I am that which even the bravest of knights cowers and hides from! :hoppingma Evil is as Evil does
Dyne 12-07-04, 05:03 PM	Any ward or glyph you put up will not stop that which was before the universe was made, I am that which even the bravest of knights cowers and hides from! :hoppingma Evil is as Evil does If you haven't already, you should get involved in the Guild of Ultimate Evil.
redhase 12-07-04, 06:52 PM	Offer with drawn, I'm not part of your war and will only watch!
Dyne 12-08-04, 11:10 PM	Since when do Lawful Good deities strike a deal with an evil being? Nevermind. All right, guys, we need to prepare our men for mass combat and to fortify our keep. Xen is already working on the fortifications, and he'll get back to us when he's done. But, we need to get ready for mass combat. Most of us have close to a hundred or more men under our command. It is planned that, in the Guild Wars, we will use all or most of our men in individual battles. To prevent from making hundreds of die rolls, we will organize men into groups that function as individual units, making a single attack roll for five or more men. I have an idea that will cut back on the number of die rolls. But, we need to organize our men into groups of five (for squads) and groups of 4 squads for platoons, multiple platoons for our entire company (each of us is in command of a company) as I outlined above. The organization posted above will cut back on die rolls, making a single die roll for a squad (or even a platoon) of men. I'll post exactly how it will work as soon as I get everything worked out. Also, I'll post how I organized my company (as a reference), and exactly how my formations attack and act during combat.
Silmarien Aldalome 12-09-04, 04:29 AM	Since when do Lawful Good deities strike a deal with an evil being? Nevermind. All right, guys, we need to prepare our men for mass combat and to fortify our keep. Xen is already working on the fortifications, and he'll get back to us when he's done. But, we need to get ready for mass combat. Most of us have close to a hundred or more men under our command. It is planned that, in the Guild Wars, we will use all or most of our men in individual battles. To prevent from making hundreds of die rolls, we will organize men into groups that function as individual units, making a single attack roll for five or more men. I have an idea that will cut back on the number of die rolls. But, we need to organize our men into groups of five (for squads) and groups of 4 squads for platoons, multiple platoons for our entire company (each of us is in command of a company) as I outlined above. The organization posted above will cut back on die rolls, making a single die roll for a squad (or even a platoon) of men. I'll post exactly how it will work as soon as I get everything worked out. Also, I'll post how I organized my company (as a reference), and exactly how my formations attack and act during combat. While the enthusiasm is appreciated, the rules for mass combat are to be developed at Metathread and rattified by Orcy, Silmarien, Anglar and Tenzhi. stav
Xen155 12-10-04, 11:50 AM	Xen takes the war wizards on a tour of the Castle, noting inportant weak spots and fortifying them with spells or noting them for physical shorring up. (This is my IG post for the creation of the foundation castle)
Dyne 12-11-04, 03:40 PM	All right guys, I have a new project for y'all. I'm developing a mass combat system to make war in D&D much easier to handle while keeping the masses of armies and the complexities and strategy of D&D Combat. Any suggestions you might have, please add them. My idea will work sorta like the Combine Fire tactic in the Star Wars Roleplaying, in which a group of attackers combine their attack into a single attack roll. But, I want to change it so that the Supporting Attackers add a bonus to Attack and Damage based on their stats, so that higher level Supporting Attackers will be better than lower level Supporting Attackers. Now, to do this would be rather complex and difficult to come up with, so I need your input. So far, here's what I have: Groups of men, up to 5 in number (could possibly do away with the maximum) make a single attack roll against one foe. One of the men is chosen as the Main Attacker, and the others are the Supporting Attackers. The Main Attacker directs the attack, and the success or failure mainly depends on him. The Supporting Attackers support the Main Attacker, giving certain bonuses to his attack. The bonus the Supporting Attackers give to the Main Attacker depends on the relationship between their attack and damage bonuses to the Main Attacker's attack and damage bonuses. Supporting Attacker's Bonus to Attack Bonus Main Attacker Same as Main Attacker: +3 1 less than Main Attacker: +2 2 less than Main Attacker: +1 More than 3 less than Main Attacker: Cannot support the Main Attacker The bonus a Supporter grants to the Main Attacker can not exceed his actual attack bonus. If the attack roll (with all the bonuses added on from the Supporters) succeeds, roll damage as if the Main Attacker succeeded in the attack. For every 5 points by which the attack roll surpasses the AC of the target, one of the Supporting Attackers deals damage. For Example: Two groups of 5 men are ready to do battle. Each side is made up of average humans (all abilities at 10) with 1 level in Warrior (BAB +1). One side, armed with shortbows, attacks the other. 1 man is chosen as the Main Attacker, and the other 4 are Supporters. Since they all have the same attack bonus (+1), they would normally add +3 to the attack, but each Supporter only adds +1 because they bonus they grant can't exceed their regular attack bonus (+1). The Main Attacker rolls for an attack, adding on +5 to the roll (+1 from his attack bonus, +4 from each of the 4 Supporters). The roll comes up an 11, with a total of 16, beating their target's AC (10) by 6 points. The attacker rolls for damage, but since the attack roll beat the AC by at least 5 points, two of the 5 men are considered to have done damage. So, 2d6 (the damage of 2 shortbows) are rolled for damage against the man they were attacking. Questions? Comments?
Mr_GrinReaper 12-11-04, 10:18 PM	Seems to work, only, when acs are higher then ten, it would become very difficult for multitudes of enemies to hit eachother. Methinks a unit should be treated as a single creature, and par examplar take size penaltys on ac.. I dunno, also I was wondering that if some high level characters are in a squad, how would there AC factor in, and stuff like that.
Dyne 12-11-04, 10:27 PM	Seems to work, only, when acs are higher then ten, it would become very difficult for multitudes of enemies to hit eachother. Methinks a unit should be treated as a single creature, and par examplar take size penaltys on ac.. I dunno, also I was wondering that if some high level characters are in a squad, how would there AC factor in, and stuff like that. Well, it was meant to deal with low-level followers fightin en-mass. But, at higher levels, it seems much easier to hit your enemies as I recall.... The way it works is for the whole squad to focus their attack on one person. If you want to change it so that it's squad-attacking-squad, rather than squad-attacking-individual, I can work on that.
Dyne 12-13-04, 08:42 PM	:bump: What the heck happened to all the Purple Dragons?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-13-04, 08:55 PM	:bump: What the heck happened to all the Purple Dragons? Yes, please come back, oh loyal servants of Cormyr! Get you a**'s back in purple!
Dyne 12-13-04, 08:59 PM	Yes, please come back, oh loyal servants of Cormyr! Get you a**'s back in purple! "Chosen! There you are! Where've ya been, ol' buddy, ol' pal?!"
redhase 12-13-04, 09:16 PM	They feel the evil all around them, no where to run! Evil is as Evil does
Dyne 12-13-04, 09:17 PM	They feel the evil all around them, no where to run! Evil is as Evil does *Bren starts chucking stuff at the red smog that just appeared* "Get outta here, you nasty fog! You look like something that came out of a dragon's arse!"
Xen155 12-13-04, 09:19 PM	I will begin mingling once the work is done on the keep. I have been understandable busy...... By the way, does anybody else think that a couple dragon statues that animated into dragon stone golems would be a good defense?
Dyne 12-13-04, 09:20 PM	I will begin mingling once the work is done on the keep. I have been understandable busy...... By the way, does anybody else think that a couple dragon statues that animated into dragon stone golems would be a good defense? "Yes."
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-13-04, 09:22 PM	I will begin mingling once the work is done on the keep. I have been understandable busy...... By the way, does anybody else think that a couple dragon statues that animated into dragon stone golems would be a good defense? :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: I've had stuff up. But we need to do something. Lets get back to our PrC! Somone should probably do a compilation of our ideas so far.
Xen155 12-13-04, 09:36 PM	Ok then Dragon stone golems it is. Maybe i'll make them purpel....
anglar 12-14-04, 06:40 PM	The sound of alarms snap you to attention. In a secluded part of your domain 4 of your servants have been found dead. There is a note. It reads "Pay or Pay".
Dyne 12-14-04, 06:50 PM	I've overlooked something. The Dark Tide asked to join. If he's still interested, he is more than welcome. Here's what we've got for the PrC so far: have to has so and so levels of purple knight, must have a bab of atleast +11, be lwaful good, and have pledged eternal alligence to whoever rules over cormyr. As to the Purple Dragon High Knight, make it require the ability to use one of the Purple Dragon Knight abilities, and I would also say it should require the Leadership feat and at least a 18 leadership score. I do agree with DotDC's class req. except maybe add a few ranks of ride, and the spirited charge feat, since thats building on the mounted combat feat requisite for the PDN PrC But I do believe it should require the Leadership feat, since it is a general after all. yes i agreed with you on the leadership feat, and it should require the ability to use inspire courage or final stand as a class feature so you'd either have to be a purple dragon knight or a extremly specialized bard. ah and there should be a BAB req, like +11/+6/+1 Some comments from before. I think it's agreed that it has to have a Base Attack Bonus requirement, as well as possibly a Leadership and Ride requirement. I still don't exactly know what it would do. Also, I recently got another idea for a PrC. It would be something like the Dragon Disciple, but the abilities would be more focused toward the abilities of the Purple Dragon, and the wings and claws could be more like a divine ability that the character could turn on or off at will. It would be something like Chosen of the Purple Dragon or Disciple of the Purple Dragon or something similar. I have no idea what to call it.
Dyne 12-14-04, 06:51 PM	The sound of alarms snap you to attention. In a secluded part of your domain 4 of your servants have been found dead. There is a note. It reads "Pay or Pay". "This has gone TOO FAR! I will not suffer the deaths of my men! Draw your swords if you be men, and follow me on the march to stamp out the vile things that committed this!"
Xen155 12-14-04, 07:47 PM	Aye, im with ya. The murders have also taken place at the Half-Elven halls. Something must be done!
Dyne 12-14-04, 10:21 PM	"ALERT! Everyone, the Guild of Ultimate Evil is attacking in all-out war! Get yourselves down to the Guild of Pure Good's HQ. I don't know how the Half-Elves are faring, but the Guild of Pure Good is our main concern." The Guild of Ultimate Evil is attacking the Guild of Pure Good and the Half-Elven Foundation. I think the Half-Elven Foundation is doing okay so far, but the Guild of Pure Good has virtually NO ONE defending them. So, get down to the Guild of Pure Good as soon as possible. I'll see if I can hold them off with my men (extremely doubtful).
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-14-04, 10:49 PM	Eat the GoUE's brains! :D
Dyne 12-14-04, 10:51 PM	Eat the GoUE's brains! :D Exactly. My men are setting up outside the GoPG HQ. They will be no match for the GoUE forces, however, since they just released a swarm of creatures, each one with a CR higher than our ECL's (15). "Gather your equipment and onwards to the Guild of Pure Good! We cannot let our allies fall to the forces of Evil!" The Company of men under Bren's command marches in formation toward the battle at the Guild of Pure Good. "This is it men!" he shouts to them. "This is what we've been training for!" he then starts assigning each Platoon their duties. "All men, ready your bows. We'll try to strike at them from range before we must close in to melee. Second Platoon, ready your spears. You will use them in case the enemy closes to melee range. First Platoon, ready your swords and your steel shields. If the fight comes to melee, you will stand in front of the spearmen and fight with your blades in the name of Cormyr. Now onward, men! Hasten to the battlefield ahead!" We have never come up with a name for our castle. I was gonna make it be Castle Crag from the FRCS, but we can name it whatever you guys want. Man, if my gaming group were here, they would just name it Helm's Deep. It seems like they always rip-off Lord of the Rings names. But, it kinda would make sense, since Helm is revered in Cormyr, and he is also Bren's patron deity.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-14-04, 11:33 PM	Just to remind you, Keld is actually not a part of the GoPG. I'm still working on my character who is. He should be ready in only a few minutes if I work fast enough. He's almost done. But Keld will help, since he is allied wht the GoPG.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-14-04, 11:48 PM	Throthgar Hammerforge is being stuck onto the characters thread as we speak. By the way, as to the PrC, I think it should have to be any Lawful Non-evil
Dyne 12-15-04, 08:03 PM	Chosen, you could just use Keld for both guilds. Updated the first post. We now have 3 current projects: a Purple Dragon High Knight PrC, a Favored of the Purple Dragon PrC, and a discussion of our artifact. The Purple Dragon High Knight would be an expansion on the Purple Dragon Knight Prestige Class, so it should have similar requirements and abilities. The Favored of the Purple Dragon Prestige Class would be similar to the Dragon Disciple PrC, but it's abilities would be focused on the Purple Dragon (rather than another dragon type), and it's claws/wings would be abilities that the character could enable/disable at will. So, they could suddenly sprout wings or grow claws if the situation called for them, but they could disable them so that they wouldn't seem like a freak to society. There might be limits to how long they can use their claws and/or wings. For the artifact, I had an idea of it being a massive sword that can either summon a massive creature or shrink to suit the wielder of the sword.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-15-04, 08:34 PM	Well, since all of the other Guilds' Artifact seem to be massively powerful, how about a small purple amulet that summons the Purple Dragon :devil: . Afterall, it is supposed to be a real creature :D .
Dyne 12-16-04, 02:07 PM	Well, since all of the other Guilds' Artifact seem to be massively powerful, how about a small purple amulet that summons the Purple Dragon :devil: . Afterall, it is supposed to be a real creature :D . I was thinking more of a massively powerful sword that summons a Titan. Hey, maybe we can do BOTH. A massively powerful sword that summons a humanoid Purple Dragon-like creature, like a dragoon (humanoid with dragon powers and wings).
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-16-04, 09:04 PM	Or it could imbue the wielder with some of the powers of the Purple Dragon :devil: !
Dyne 12-17-04, 12:40 PM	Or it could imbue the wielder with some of the powers of the Purple Dragon :devil: ! Or, that too. It IS an artifact, it could be capable of all sorts of things. So: Massive Sword (Longsword, Bastard Sword, or Greatsword) Summons Massive Dragoon to wield it. Probably has stats that are a combination of a Titan and a Dragon. Can shrink to the size of whoever wishes to wield it (if they meet the requirements) Wielder must be Lawful Good or Lawful Neutral Grants the wielder certain powers (possibly the ability to transform into a Dragoon) I don't know exactly what size the sword should be, or what size the creature should be. It could be either Huge, Gargantuan, or Collossal. The sword should also be intelligent. I think I've already got some ideas for it. I'll post them as soon as I've got them worked out. EDIT: Do any of you guys know what the stats for the Purple Dragon are? EDIT2: I realized there really are no stats for the Purple Dragon, since it's mostly a mythical creature.
Lady Rolindin 12-17-04, 04:49 PM	use a wish spell and make a ploanetouched creature, half dragon. you could sacerace a pc or use the spell to make out of thin air. one of the mages at the merchants shops could do it, a wizard of high power.
Dyne 12-17-04, 05:09 PM	use a wish spell and make a ploanetouched creature, half dragon. you could sacerace a pc or use the spell to make out of thin air. one of the mages at the merchants shops could do it, a wizard of high power. Planetouched creatures are Aasimar, Tieflings, and Genasi. I don't believe half-dragons are considered Planetouched creatures, at least they're not listed as such in the SRD. In fact, I can't find the half-dragon template anywhere in the SRD! Here's what I've gotten so far, basing the stats on an Adult Gold Dragon: Huge Dragon (humanoid) Hit Dice: 23d12 +138 (293 hp) Initiative: +4 (Dex) Speed: 60 ft., fly 200 ft. (poor), swim 60 ft. Armor Class: 34 (-2 size +22 natural +4 Dex) Base Attack: +23/+44 Attack: Bite +36 melee (2d8+13) Full Attack: Bite +36 melee (2d8+13), 2 Claws +34 melee (2d6+6), and 2 Wings +34 melee (1d8+6) Space/Reach: 15 ft./10 ft. (15 ft. with bite) Special Attacks: Tail Sweep, Breath Weapon, Spell-Like Abilities Special Qualities: Darkvision 120 ft., Low-Light Vision, Immunity to magic sleep and paralysis effects, Water Breathing, DR 5/magic Saves: Fort +19, Ref +17, Will +20 Abilities: Str 36, Dex 18, Con 22, Int 20, Wis 30, Cha 24 What do you guys think?
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-17-04, 08:16 PM	Perhaps it should have the ability to inspire allies as well as strike fear inot it's enemies. Also, perhaps the breath weapon should be something new, like it breathes out thunder clouds over it's enemies, trapping them inside a cage of lightning.
Dyne 12-17-04, 08:26 PM	Perhaps it should have the ability to inspire allies as well as strike fear inot it's enemies. Also, perhaps the breath weapon should be something new, like it breathes out thunder clouds over it's enemies, trapping them inside a cage of lightning. Good idea. We could give it abilities like the Purple Dragon Knight. Except, I don't have my FRCS right now. The breath weapon could be like an Incendiary Cloud that does electricity damage. The creature could also have the ability to use a regular lightning bolt as a breath weapon.
Demonfey 12-17-04, 10:21 PM	Planetouched creatures are Aasimar, Tieflings, and Genasi. I don't believe half-dragons are considered Planetouched creatures, at least they're not listed as such in the SRD. In fact, I can't find the half-dragon template anywhere in the SRD! Here's what I've gotten so far, basing the stats on an Adult Gold Dragon: Huge Dragon (humanoid) Hit Dice: 23d12 +138 (293 hp) Initiative: +4 (Dex) Speed: 60 ft., fly 200 ft. (poor), swim 60 ft. Armor Class: 34 (-2 size +22 natural +4 Dex) Base Attack: +23/+44 Attack: Bite +36 melee (2d8+13) Full Attack: Bite +36 melee (2d8+13), 2 Claws +34 melee (2d6+6), and 2 Wings +34 melee (1d8+6) Space/Reach: 15 ft./10 ft. (15 ft. with bite) Special Attacks: Tail Sweep, Breath Weapon, Spell-Like Abilities Special Qualities: Darkvision 120 ft., Low-Light Vision, Immunity to magic sleep and paralysis effects, Water Breathing, DR 5/magic Saves: Fort +19, Ref +17, Will +20 Abilities: Str 36, Dex 18, Con 22, Int 20, Wis 30, Cha 24 What do you guys think? Try MM3.5. Is this in exchange for an artifact?
Dyne 12-17-04, 10:32 PM	Try MM3.5. Is this in exchange for an artifact? Nope. It comes with an artifact! :D Our artifact is a massive sword that can change sizes to suit the wielder, grants many bonuses to the wielder, and it can summon a massive Dragoon.
jagggar 12-17-04, 10:41 PM	In fact, I can't find the half-dragon template anywhere in the SRD! It's under H, you know, for Half-dragon. Trust me, it's there. I've been referencing it frequently for a PC I might make for the reloaded dragon foundation. hypertext d20 half-dragon entry (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/halfDragon.htm)
Demonfey 12-17-04, 11:39 PM	Nope. It comes with an artifact! :D Our artifact is a massive sword that can change sizes to suit the wielder, grants many bonuses to the wielder, and it can summon a massive Dragoon. Ooh. I want one!
Dyne 12-18-04, 12:51 AM	Ooh. I want one! Nope. Mine. But, I could make you a super powerful non-artifact sword using regular item creation rules. It is quite possible to create items with about the power of an artifact, but they get pretty expensive. I was toying with a concept for a sword for Bren, and it came out pretty powerful, but it's market price was over 300,000 gp.
Demonfey 12-18-04, 12:57 AM	Nope. Mine. But, I could make you a super powerful non-artifact sword using regular item creation rules. It is quite possible to create items with about the power of an artifact, but they get pretty expensive. I was toying with a concept for a sword for Bren, and it came out pretty powerful, but it's market price was over 300,000 gp. I can do it, too, but hey, you CAN'T go wrong with a dragoon.
Dyne 12-18-04, 01:03 AM	I can do it, too, but hey, you CAN'T go wrong with a dragoon. Yep. I used to have a game in which all the main characters could turn into dragoons. It had an awesome combat system, too. But, it turned out that the storyline was crap. That, and one of my favorite characters was killed off. :(
Orcy The Green Wonder 12-18-04, 01:16 AM	Nope. Mine. But, I could make you a super powerful non-artifact sword using regular item creation rules. It is quite possible to create items with about the power of an artifact, but they get pretty expensive. I was toying with a concept for a sword for Bren, and it came out pretty powerful, but it's market price was over 300,000 gp. Could always chat with Nightscreamer and have him do it in what... a day? Man's nuts...
Dyne 12-18-04, 01:56 PM	Could always chat with Nightscreamer and have him do it in what... a day? Man's nuts... Well, I slapped together all the abilities within a few minutes. But, Nightscreamer could probably figure out a way to make it better and cheaper. He goes nuts with items and Prestige Classes. :rolleyes: It's good to have him around at the Merchants Guild. :D
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-20-04, 02:28 PM	Alright, I'm back. My computer hasn't been working lately. :mad:
Dyne 12-20-04, 03:27 PM	Alright, I'm back. My computer hasn't been working lately. :mad: The boards were briefly shut down, so you didn't miss anything. The Inter-Foundation War Games were shut down by WizO Cat. So, it's back to the old drawing board. We were working on a Prestige Class for the Purple Dragons. I'm not sure what to call it, but it was originally gonna be called the Purple Dragon High Knight (even though that name is already taken by a PrC in Dragon Magazine). I think the PrC should have abilities that affect the character's soldiers, and on a large scale than the regular Purple Dragon Knight. The PrC should be able to inspire whole armies of men at a time. We might base the abilities somewhat on the Purple Dragon Knight, but with the abilities expanded to cover a larger area.
Dyne 12-25-04, 03:34 AM	Chosen, let's keep this foundation alive. We need to work on the PrC. But, I have to go right now. Must sleep. :zzz:
redhase 12-26-04, 04:56 PM	Where is your Red Knight, the corymr knights have Red Knights as their war leaders. they plan all activaties of war and defence of hall. the main skills for them are knowledge war, knowledge tatacs, knowledge fighting, knowledge personal fighting and so on. leadership skills are part of their skills, with everthing doing with leadership and how to fight a war, how to plan a war. wheres your Red knight? he or she should be leading the wards placment and defences of your hall, and all battles to be fought. Where's your Red Knight?
Dyne 12-26-04, 05:29 PM	Red Knight? :confused:
redhase 12-26-04, 05:48 PM	yes they are the ones who are incharge of the squads, the company and the are the generals of the amrys. even in charge of the war wizards, they are a war wazards them self but get extra bonus for leadership feats, and war stragery, and tatacits. you need a red knight to plan all the hall defenices and war plans. in the realms the red knights are the ones who make the plans and study for nothing but that how to wage war and defenence, small and large. leadership, tatitics, how to fight a war is their specality. where's yours.
Lady Rolindin 12-26-04, 10:59 PM	If you don't know how to make a Red Kinght for the defence of the castle I can make one, and a Red Knight battle wizard. their not hard to make, just need to use a lot of skills on leadership and Knoweldge of war, battle tatacis, small and large, for knights and war wizards. they even have their own spells for battle tatices, and war spells they use.
Dyne 12-26-04, 11:02 PM	I'm guessing that they're either from a previous edition, or they're from Player's Guide to Faerun, since I've never heard of them. You're welcome to make one. We could always use new members.
Lady Rolindin 12-26-04, 11:11 PM	their in the new players fr bookas as a speacilty class and they have been in the dragon mafazine both the Red knight and the red Knight war wizard. the difference is a Red Knight is in charge of the purple knight depending on thier rank, some might be in charge of a sqaud or a company of knights. a Red Knight war wizard is ib charge of the war wizards and how to best use their spells and what spells to use when and where. they are a knight and wizard at the same time, but they specalize in the war wizards. The Red kinght is just for the planning of all tatics and defences of a castle, from squad to company and can be a genaeral of a army, or a squad leader of the knights. do you have the dragon magazines on the Red knights?
Dyne 12-26-04, 11:14 PM	Nope. I don't have any Dragon magazines, actually.
Lady Rolindin 12-26-04, 11:59 PM	You might want to have all the npc, in a line or in the same room. I read all the back posts from other guilds and you might have some of Redhase's fey're allready here in the castle. I will have to arange a time for all of us to be on at the same time and have Coren look at all of the staff, remember that all the fey're can change shape at will. And their is a spell to hide aligment, so if Redhase has eye's all over the place they they could be here allready. I call redhase and get a time to go over the staff of the castle, if she has one or more then they will be spoted.
Demonfey 12-27-04, 12:07 AM	You might want to have all the npc, in a line or in the same room. I read all the back posts from other guilds and you might have some of Redhase's fey're allready here in the castle. I will have to arange a time for all of us to be on at the same time and have Coren look at all of the staff, remember that all the fey're can change shape at will. And their is a spell to hide aligment, so if Redhase has eye's all over the place they they could be here allready. I call redhase and get a time to go over the staff of the castle, if she has one or more then they will be spoted. Well, for starters, I'm still standing here. I like watching things, and possibly learning new tricks. In any case, redhase is still trying to form a total attack plan, but keeps forgetting that reality has been altered.
redhase 12-27-04, 12:34 AM	I realiz this, the difference is a new player is in the game and has taken some steps. go ahead and have your witch hunt lr, it won't matter. the castle has weaknesses that have been found. You still need a Red Knight to manage the castle affairs, and so forth. Demonfry stay and watch, this should be fun to watch. remember anything that can happen in a game can be done here, this is a game, and things have been done by me.
Demonfey 12-27-04, 11:12 AM	I realiz this, the difference is a new player is in the game and has taken some steps. go ahead and have your witch hunt lr, it won't matter. the castle has weaknesses that have been found. You still need a Red Knight to manage the castle affairs, and so forth. Demonfry stay and watch, this should be fun to watch. remember anything that can happen in a game can be done here, this is a game, and things have been done by me. Demonfey. Please get it right. It is not Demonfry.
redhase 12-27-04, 04:08 PM	demonfey, remembered your name wrong, sorry.
grimclaw 12-27-04, 04:12 PM	Demonfry is his small nephew,currently attending Asmodeus'school for the gifted. :D
Demonfey 12-27-04, 10:34 PM	demonfey, remembered your name wrong, sorry. That's okay. I just thought it was time to correct you on it.
Lady Rolindin 12-27-04, 10:45 PM	You can go to the public libary and request copies all the way back to 2002, in our area the 2001 and back have been taken of the list. You can order ever copy and if I remember right the war wizard and the Red Knight are in the 2003 issues, , and red knight war wizard class, just can't remeber which one's.
Lady Rolindin 12-28-04, 03:38 PM	Dyne if you go to candlekeep.com they have a list of the Corymr knights and the Corymr war wizards, how their organized and the titles of each rank. seperat list for each. how many in each and everthing you will need to know about the stucture of the organization. how they work, and more.
Lady Rolindin 12-28-04, 05:38 PM	heres the information on the cormyr Knights. Enlisted ranks rank equivalent Blade private first sword sergeant, staff sergeant sword major master sergeant, gunny sergeant commissioned officer swordcaptain lieutnant loinar captain ornrion major- lt colonel constal colonel general ranks oversword brigadier general battlemaster lieutenant general 3 to 4 stars Lord high marshal general of the army pay balde 12 golden lions/ month(gp) first sword 18 golden loins/month (gp) swordmajor 24 golden loins/month (gp) swordcaptain 36 golden loins/month (gp) Loinnar 45 golden loins/month (gp) Ornrion 54 golden loins/month (gp) Constal 63 golden lions/month (gp) Oversword 96 golden loins/month (gp) Battlemaster 108 golden loins/month (gp) Lord High Marshal 120 golden loins/ month(gp) Your posstion is Dyne since you started this guild is Lord commander you have under you a (guidon) carries the units flag, (Orderly) to attend and perform various tasks for a senor officer, (company Swordmajor) second in command you need to chose one of the knights. (Drillmasters) econd in cpommand under theswordcaptain. (Campmaster)a swordmajor fills this position, (Quartermaster) to a swordmajor. table of organization and equipment unit type abbr #men composition squad sqd 12 firstsword leads 10 blades, a royal scout company cpy 28 swordcaptain leads two squads,a swordmajor
Dyne 12-28-04, 08:22 PM	Company Swordmajor is a position filled in each Company. Since our foundation is much larger than a single company (28 men, according to the site), each of us would have at least one Company Swordmajor under our command. Also, I have no second command. I don't want to give the impression that I, or any other person, am above anyone else. Since I founded this guild, I'm responsible for it as a leader. But, other than that, we are each absolutely and completely equal. My rank would be Lord High Marshal. Since we only have one fortress, and I'm the leader of that fortress, I also hold the position of Lord Commander of this garrison. If we were to build any other fortresses, another person would be appointed as Lord Commander of each fortress. By-the-way, for anyone who's interested, here's (http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/cormyrforcesa.htm#A1) a link to the page with all the Purple Dragon info.
Lady Rolindin 12-28-04, 09:51 PM	then since I'm making a Red Knight War Wizard ,then how many the war wizards are needed. heres some stats form the war wizard down load I have. the size of the castle is to me as big as Eveningstar they have 200, , small er castle have 150 to name Waymoot, Wheelon, 200 or 150 war wizards. first level chaiman Emperius second level First Assistants of the leader third level Notable Wizard of Corymr Fourth level Helping magic hand of Cormyr the war wizards have a leader with 4 peolpe under them, and 4 people under the top four, the ones under the leaders woould be the balation, then comapny, then squad. Squad 4 Company 6 sq 24, 4 com 16( when you decide how many comapanies their are 4 or 6. how many companies in a balition. Iwould change the numbers on the site to reflect, every company and how many each. if you have 6 companies then you have 24 war wizards per batiliation. we might need just 1 balatition that shold be 6 by the numbers, and two paltons for eack comapny 28X6=168, =+ you, and war wizards. War wizards, 8 per company, 6 companies, =48 + war wizard leader, +leader, 4 under leader= (53 war wizards total). 53+168= (total 221 every knigh and war wizard) thats a not counting the npc servents all of them. I would think to run a castle that size a guess of 100 to 250 npc servants. I can look in my books to see how many accourding to size and numbers of knights. that should be close. clonsdering that every knight has a page, an armor, and more, every knight has at least 5 to 10 servents below him helping him. we should limit the knights servants to 1 or 2 because more than that, to me adds up to a lot of knight servants. Even the knight npc would have to have knight servants.
Silmarien Aldalome 12-28-04, 09:59 PM	Hi there Lady Rondilin It's good to see you gettin' active. I have to say, that your game products are just fantastic. *looks at Dyne* Dyne - can you bring me up to speed with a summary post of what's happening here. I like the look of it, by the way. regards stav
Lady Rolindin 12-28-04, 10:46 PM	september 2002 knights need for npc's they are; Animal handler page smith squire flag barrer for each knight. I want 2 for my red knight/war wizard page(someone I could train to be a red knight) and smith, the restof the other players will have to tell you how many to add for them in the npc count. once you know that then you can add them up and then all the other npc's cooks, cook helpers, kitchen help, butchers, bakers, sheep hearders, smiths, smiths helpers, courtier's,heralds,servants, maids, buttlers,farmers if you want help I can look up how many npc's would be be in a castle with 6 companies. to me it's sounds like a medium size castle we have here, close to large. and the surrounding villages and towns who support the castle. those npc's to count to. my guess number for all of it is 3,500 to 5,000 tatal, everone counted for, then make a list of them all.
Dyne 12-28-04, 10:57 PM	@Silmarien: Well, Lady Rolindin introduced a site to us that has material on the Purple Dragons of Cormyr. Right now, I guess we're processing the material and figuring out what we'll use, and how we'll use it.
Dyne 12-28-04, 11:01 PM	You might want to have all the npc, in a line or in the same room. I read all the back posts from other guilds and you might have some of Redhase's fey're allready here in the castle. I will have to arange a time for all of us to be on at the same time and have Coren look at all of the staff, remember that all the fey're can change shape at will. And their is a spell to hide aligment, so if Redhase has eye's all over the place they they could be here allready. I call redhase and get a time to go over the staff of the castle, if she has one or more then they will be spoted. Whoa, just noticed this post. First off, we're still trying to figure out exactly what we're gonna do with our foundation. I don't want to deal with anything in-game when we still have yet to solidify even who our men are. For starters, my main character may go through a huge change before the IFWG starts up again (if it even does). This means that he may be a totally different person, with totally different stats.
Lady Rolindin 12-28-04, 11:05 PM	that's ok, I know aboput the level adjustments and its hurts to take off two levels. As for the rest all of us should work on the npc's so we have a count. I know i have made castles with leaders and all of it before, a lot of poeple to support a castle. I posted the paladan's and knights requirements for npc's Who are the other memebers so a count of their npc's can be made up. I want 2 not the whole complement of npc's. You would have the most being in charge of the site and the over lord. I will have to bring in my red Knight as 13 level for level adjustment. so a 4th level knight and a 9th level war wizard.
Dyne 12-28-04, 11:34 PM	Wait, I still have never heard of that Level Adjustment. It's definitely not in my Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and it doesn't seem that anyone else has heard about it besides you and redhase. I would DEFINITELY like some clarification before I start taking levels off of my characters. I'm not taking any levels off until I see the LA with my own eyes. (sorry, I'm stubborn like that) And, the number of NPC's that we have will be dependent solely on our Leadership score. Unless, of course, you guys want to hire men out of your own pocket. (but, then again, we still never figured out how time passes, so it'd be pretty hard to pay men on a daily basis)
Lady Rolindin 12-28-04, 11:49 PM	remembered for 2e, ok this is what I wpould like to see for the purple knights a computer map of the castle and the area, so I caould get a view of it, we could have aventures out siode the castle in our own area if we had a map to view. that would be great to see what it looks likes and the sorrounding area.
Dyne 12-29-04, 12:51 AM	So, the LA was from 2e? I thought it might be something like that. As far as a map of the castle and the surrounding area, we have to wait until Xen gets back. He was working on a big, awesome castle for us, and he would have a map all drawn out. As soon as he presents it, we can work out the details of the surrounding area. [Sigh] Where did everyone go? Xen's gone, Chosen's gone, MrGrinreaper's gone, Holy_Man's gone. I think we're the only two who are here right now. I suppose we better wait until everyone gets back before we make any major decisions. But, I suppose we can discuss things. For the location of the castle, I was thinking it could either be on the border, acting as a line of defense against enemies. Or, probably better, it could be a garrison outside the capital city, serving as the main defense of the capital. We could possibly pool our funds and construct other fortresses to protect our borders. Lord Commanders could be appointed for each fortress. If we build enough of them, we could each have our own fort under our command (or possibly multiple forts). Also, I'm not certain about using the ranking system. It sounds interesting, and I suppose I could just force myself to memorize the thing, but it would be simpler to just use U.S. Army ranks and positions. Besides, we might have to come up with our own structure that would work with how many men we have, what types of men we have, etc.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-29-04, 12:59 AM	Whippee, I'm back after over a week in California! Wha'de I miss?
Dyne 12-29-04, 01:03 AM	Well, if you don't already know, the Dungeon Masters Foundation was closed down and moved to EN World. The thread is now quite large, and growing by the day. Lady Rolindin introduced material about the Purple Dragons from a site that gives specific details, such as their ranks, structure, that kind of thing. And we're trying to figure out generally where our castle is placed. Actually, it'd be better if you just read the posts above you. I don't think there are too many of them.
Chosen of the Dark Sun 12-29-04, 01:24 AM	Well, if you don't already know, the Dungeon Masters Foundation was closed down and moved to EN World. The thread is now quite large, and growing by the day. Lady Rolindin introduced material about the Purple Dragons from a site that gives specific details, such as their ranks, structure, that kind of thing. And we're trying to figure out generally where our castle is placed. Actually, it'd be better if you just read the posts above you. I don't think there are too many of them. Yeah, I just saw what happened to the DMF :( :mad: . Oh well. I just found Chaos Evokers ling over their though, so I'm now logged on as Blade of Desecration at ENWorld.
Lady Rolindin 12-29-04, 05:27 PM	the order of Red Knights is called the (Red Falcon's) Name: Kaylee, Skylore Class(es): Red Knight 5 levels/ War Wizard 10 levels Racial HD: 5 d10+2/ 10d4+2 =106 Level Adj: -0 Total ECL: - worships Helm Race (Type): Halfelf Gender: Female Age:46 Weight: 87lbs Height: 5ft. 5inches. Alignment: LG movment 30 ft no armor, with armor 20 ft. Str:18 mod +4 Dex:14 mod+2 Con:15 mod+2 Int:18 mod +4 Wis:16 mod +3 Cha:17 mod+3 Feats: Mounted combat power attack improved leadership +2 (drago magizine #317) Spell focus (war spell and like spells) Spell mastery (war spells and simular spells) CrafT wondrous items (war magic iterms) skills: Knowledge (battlefield Arcana) 4+8=12 4cp Knowledge (architecture/war) 4+8=12 4cp Knowledge (nobility and royalty) 4+6=10 2cp knowledge (religion) 4+8=12 4cp ride 3+7=10 2cp spellcraft 4+8+12 4cp concentration 2+8=10 2cp spot 1+2+6=9 1cp listen 2+1+6=9 1cp diplomancy 3+2+5=10 2cp Saves (fort 2+3 (5) +3 pal bon= 8 /will 3 +7=10 (pal bon) /ref 3+3)=6 (pal bon) HP: 106 AC:24 (10+8+2+4) BAB:+5 ---Attacks/Damage--- Melee: weapion 10+2+4=16 touch 10+2=12 flat 10+8+2+4+24 Ranged: Arrows from composit long bow, 1d6 1d8 x3 110ft. while casting spells 35% spell failer chance in armor. Special Abilities: Half elf (players handbook) land speed 30ft. Immunity to sleep spells and effects +2 racail on saving throw on Enchantment spells low light vision +1 racail on listen, search, spot checks +2 on diplomancy, gather infornation common, eleven, chondathan Paladan's abilities Aura of good detect evil at will smite evil divine grace cha scor for saving throws lay on hands aura of courage devine health turn undead spells devine at 4th level specail mount remove disease Traning from Red Knight War College (War wizards, candlekeep,com) History war/ battles leadership strategist; offensive/defense (small and Large battles) planning (battles) dargon issue #317 Training from War Wizard College (from Candlekeep .com War wizards.) the magic way +5% in understanding spells +1 on STs vrs spells (saving throws) -1 on spell casting time The Tatical Way Animal handling proficiency Animal training proficiency Engineering proficiency The Phsical Way Direction sense proficiency fire building proficiency endurance proficiency-3 surival proficiency-3 the Religious way Astrology proficiency Religion Proficiency Special Qualities: (Forgotten realms campain setting) Purple Knight training 1st Rallying cry Heroic shield 2nd Inspire courage 3rd fear 4th Oath of wrath Inspire Courage 2/day 5th Final stand Divine Ranks: Sovereign Ranks: Experience: 112,500 Magic Items 2 ring of proction +4 Ring of dispell magic (war Wizard) Description & Background: Katlee father is a grand Red Knight tataction for the Purple Knights (Sir Skylore), her mother is a War Wizard, at the age of 13 she was sponsored by Magnus for the Knights training after working her way up and learning the Knights values. kaylee was sponsord by her father Lord skylore for the Red knight College.Kaylee choose to follow in her father path and became a Red Knight trainne. After years of being being a Red Knight and working he way up, she was offered the chance to become a War Wizard and she accapted to the offer from Magnus. She has been studying and applying her Red Knight, Coyrmr Knight and War Wizard skills to her self and the sorrounding area she proctects. Kaylee is the second in command of the Red Kinghts as of now at the castle. She is in charge of the War Wizards, untill some one more quatified War Wizard can assume the position. A pure war wizard, where as she will accept the second in command and be the tataction for the War Wizards deployment, and training at the small college in the castle. the leader of the Red Knights at the castle is Sir Kantrail Brightblade title (Lord Knight Commandant), the tataction for the castle defence, and area around the castle. Her grandmother is a full elf, on her father side. She is called Lady Skylore, the (Chairman Emperius) , not married still in her fourties. Spells per level with bonus for int 0-4 1st-5 2nd-5 3rd-4 4th-4 5th-2 diving spells: have to pray for spells each day Word of binding Stick saddle Spells: 0 level: Resize (war) Flag (war) Glitter Razors (war) Thunder Head (war) Yell (war) Read Magic Arcana mark Mending (war) 1st Friend sight (war) Arcane Bolt (war) Shield (war) Mount (war) True strike (war) Color spray (war) magic weapon 2nd Ebon eye's Mirror eye's Calavry Call (war) Morning Mist (war) Force Missile strom (war) Enhance weapons (war) rainbow beam cold snap (war) Arcane lock Proction from arrows 3rd Rolling fire (war) Field of blurs (war) rainbow blast Burden (war) sonic blast Blackthorn's Fire proof (war) blink Arcane sight (war) 4th level Blackthorn's body armor (war) burned to bare rock (war) great eletric bolt (war) enhance armor (war) dispell war spell (war) Blackthorn's quicksand (war) Proctection from arrows mass (war) 5thy level spells Blackthorn's preserving Ice (war) Easy march (war) passwall permanency Cone of cold (war) Teleport Break enchanment (war) Dismissal hit dice rolls: 9+2,4+2,5+2,10+2,6+2,=54 for knight 4+2,4+2,3+2,2+2,4+2= 27 for wizard 2+2,3+2,4+2,4+2,2+2=25 for wizard 54+27+25=106 Horse: name: Cherry sex: female Heavy War horse Cr2 large animal: hd 4d8+12= 30hp Int+1 speed; 50ft ac 14 (with scale mail +4 (17) touch 10 (with scale mail+4 (14) flatfooted 13 (with scale mail +4 (17) base attack +3, gpr +11 atk +16 melee (1d6+4) hoof full attack +6/+6 melee (1d6+4 2 hooves) and +1 melee (1d4+2 bite) space/ reach 10 ft. specal qualities; low light vision, scent empathic link improved evasion share spells share saving throws of owner (Keylee) Horse below str 19 dex 13 con 17 int 8 wis 13 chr 6 saddle military 60gp saddle bags 4gp composit long bow 2 quiver 20 arrows, one one her and one on saddle Plate mail with red hue +2 and a white vistment over the armor, a black hawk family symbul. Long Sword eleven +2 (red knight favort weapon, even for battle priest) belt with pouches robe with pouches for spell compontents. Purple Knights of Corymr guild Sir Kantrail Brightblade Lord Knight Commandant Race: Half elf (players hanbook) Class: Purple knight/ Red knight Cleric (forgotten realms campain setting, dragon mag 317 Red knights Racial HD: (If any) Level Adjustment: 0 Total ECL: Experience:112,500 Alignment:lawful good Home Region: (If applicable) Languages:common, elven, chondathan Gender: male Worships Helm Movment speed 30ft. no armor, armor 20ft. war horse 50ft. Devine ranks: 2 for pal, 5 for cleric, 7 total Abilities Strength: 16 mod +3 Dexterity: 16 mod +3 Constitution: 15 mod +2 Intelligence: 18 mod +4 Wisdom: 14 mod +2 Charisma: 16 mod +3 HD: 25+(2x5=10)=35 (http//:krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?Lady Rolindin#140404) 48+(2x10=20)=68 Lady Rolindin#140405 68+25=71 hp AC: 10+8(plate mail red hue) +2 ring of protection 20, shield Touch AC: 10+2=12 Flat-Footed AC: F-F 10+8+2=20 (armor mod, shield mod, natural armor, deflection, any other mods) Initiative: Init mod 10+2=12 skills: Knowledge (architecture/war) 4+8=12 4 cp Knowledge (engineering/war) 4+8 =12 4cp Knowledge (arcana/war) 4+8=12 4cp Knowledge (religion) 4+8=12 4cp Knowledge (Nobilty/ royalty/war) 4+6=10 2cp (dragon magizine #317) ride 3+7=10 2cp Spell craft 4+8=12 4cp spot 1+2+6=9 1 cp listen 2+ 1+6=9 1 cp Diplomancy 3+2+5=10 2cp concentration 2+8=10 2 cp Skill Points: 32 Class Skills: paladan from players handbook Paladan's abilities Aura of good detect evil at will smite evil divine grace cha scor for saving throws lay on hands aura of courage devine health turn undead spells devine at 4th level specail mount remove disease Purple Knight (forgotten realms campain setting) 1st rally Cry, Heroic shield 2nd Inspire courage 3rd fear 4th Oath of wrath 5th final stand Profience with all simple weapons, weapons, armor all and shields Red knights Knowledge war and planning (taught at the war Red knight college) extra feats Skill Modifiers: 35% magic spell failer due to armor, but the red knight wis taught to take that chance. Feats: Improved leadership +2 (dragon 317) Mounted combat combat casting Craft Wondrous item power attack noble warrior (dragon 317) Special Abilities: Half elf (players handbook) land speed 30ft. Immunity to sleep spells and effects +2 racail on saving throw on Enchantment spells low light vision +1 racail on listen, search, spot checks +2 on diplomancy, gather infornation common, eleven Saving Throws: Fortitude: +7 (+2 con)=9 +3(divine) +12 Reflexes: +3 +3 (divine)=6 Will: +7+3 (devine)=10 Attacks: Base attack Bonus:+7/+2 Melee:10+2+3=15 Ranged: Grapple: Equipment:plate mail +2, elven long sword +2, composite bow, war hammer Item (price), item (price), xxx gp. Total: Devine spells: Detect Attude Word of binding Spells: cleric 0 level Resize (war) Flag (war) Glitter Razors (war) Thunder Head (war) Yell (war) Read Magic Arcana mark resstance detect poison 1st level cure light wounds magic weapon (war) deathwatch detect evil divine favor remove fear 2nd level spirtual weapon (war) bul's strenght calm emotions consecrate cure moderate wounds shield other 3rd level: Analyze Opponent (Red knight), Knight's move (Red Knight), Check's Mate light (Red Knight) magic vestment(war) cure serious wounds dispell magic haste remove curse scrying 4th level: dispell war magic break enchantment cure critcal woundsshout zone of silence repel vermin freedom of movement shout mounts wings 5th level: Telepathic Aura (Red Knight/war), Flame strike (war) cure moderate wounds mass find the path scrying greater Spells per day: o level 6 1st level 5+1 (Mostly war spells, speacilty) 2nd level 5+1 3rd level 4+1 4th level 4+1 5th level 2+1 Spell save DC mod: Other mods to spells: Spells Known: 31 Spellbook: carried on should bag or on saddle bag Invocations: rings of war (dispell magic rings) Psionics: na Description: A male in red hue plate amil armor, and a white over coat with Red Eagle coat of arms. Carries a long sword elven made, and has war horse can be seen patroling with the lower knights around the castle area for training. Age:43 Height:5 ft. 7 inches Weight: 106 lbs Eyes: light blue Hair: dusty brown History: Horse: name: Hawks eyes sex: female Heavy War horse Cr2 large animal: hd 4d8+12= 30hp Int+1 speed; 50ft ac 14 (with scale mail +4 (17) touch 10 (with scale mail+4 (14) flatfooted 13 (with scale mail +4 (17) base attack +3, gpr +11 atk +16 melee (1d6+4) hoof full attack +6/+6 melee (1d6+4 2 hooves) and +1 melee (1d4+2 bite) space/ reach 10 ft. specal qualities; low light vision, scent empathic link improved evasion share spells share saving throws of owner (Kantrail) Horse below str 19 dex 13 con 17 int 8 wis 13 chr 6 __________________ Purple Knights Of Corymr guild
Dyne 12-29-04, 06:34 PM	I'm coming up with 87 hp, not 106. At least, that's using averages (and the first HD maxed out). Unless you rolled them up on an online die roller, in which case there should be a link to the results.
Silmarien Aldalome 12-31-04, 12:05 AM	I haven't checked the HP, and those details (e.g. # ranks in skills, etc), but I've read through the concept, and approve of the materials. I think the combination of spells and fighting makes it an attractive character and will look forwards to seeing how they play out. regards stav PS - please post at the Poll thread, if you get a chance. Regards stav
Lady Rolindin 12-31-04, 12:18 AM	Red knight cleric is in the dragon,I have seen the red knight war wizard in the war wizard varent class in one of the dragon mag can't find it but still looking I did find the red knight cleric and used what it said purple kinght 5 levels then 10 levels for cleric. so many dragons to go throught still.
Silmarien Aldalome 12-31-04, 12:28 AM	:cool: I've got all the old editions of Dragon here (they're 20 years old) if you need anything looked up, let me know. Regards stav
Lady Rolindin 12-31-04, 05:35 PM	I know it's there, the war wizards and varients, red knight/war wizard is somewhere between the years 99 to 04 issues, I have all the issues starting from the first isssue to, and I loved the dragon men, those are fun to make. the hef could use some dragon men and so could the corymr knights, even if just in statue form to guard the halls and acative when needed. Thats reminds me I need instay a Red Falcon (red Knights) worship center in the castle. are the devin ranks the one's that a paladan or cleric uses. like a cleric gets. At 10 level cleric red knight he gets, 5 for the war specality cleric spells and 2 for padadin level. devin ranks are confusion me.
Lady Rolindin 12-31-04, 10:44 PM	I don't know if any one is still working in the giuld, but if you are I have just posted some new paladan spell's on the counsel of arcmages libary, and you can use them for your paladans. levels 1 to 4. really good ones.
Mr_GrinReaper 01-04-05, 09:30 PM	whoa, alot of goings on since I posted last, lol i know this is late, but welcome the the pdn's Lady Rolandin. 16 pages!, last i posted it was at 10 pages, well, im back on an active again so yeah...
Demonfey 01-04-05, 09:44 PM	whoa, alot of goings on since I posted last, lol i know this is late, but welcome the the pdn's Lady Rolandin. 16 pages!, last i posted it was at 10 pages, well, im back on an active again so yeah... Care to help Cazic's human bard (some type of good, I believe-she was a half celestial before a curse turned her human) find and free her parents from two prisons? It's going on at the GoPG, and Crowley is helping. Crowley has retired from the GoUE, by the way.
Xen155 01-04-05, 09:57 PM	As of right now the Purple Dragons are leaderless Helm has left this world permanently. As head of the War Wizards I will take leadership until the Purple Dragons can vote on a new Leader. So I send a summons to all Members of the Purlple Dragons Of Cormyr! Elect a new leader. We need a new official leader. My char Xen can't be becuase the Royal Mage can not lead the actual Knights permanently. With Dyne gone who will take up the mantel or even intends to remain a member of the PDoC?
Lady Rolindin 01-04-05, 11:00 PM	My Red Knight War Wizard, is the tatatcion of the group and doesn't want to be in charge of the whole thing. just the tataction for the knighs. we need to find out who is still here, if we are the only two then a round table leadership, make descions togehter. once we know if we need a round table approach then we can go on with business. we should have a round table group then one can be the leader and the rest can give their opion and decide together. is your charater a regular war wizard, no varient class like red knight.
Lady Rolindin 01-04-05, 11:06 PM	I have a lot of war spells posted on the counsel of archmages libary, your war wizard being a specilist of war spells wound know some of these.
Xen155 01-05-05, 12:11 AM	No im pretty much a straight up wiz, the PDoC dont know about the hole Verse Master thing, and Im just the Head War Wizard not a war wizard if you catch my meaning. But i agree lets give it a couple o days and if no one responds we will go from their.
Lady Rolindin 01-05-05, 12:19 AM	did you go to candlekeep.cpm and look up the war wizards, they get bonus. do you know your title then as head war wizard. Chairman Emperius is the name of the title, and I would hold the second in command as the tataction for the war wizards.
Xen155 01-05-05, 12:30 AM	I guess we are both working of differing information Lady. And no I've not had the pleasure of going to that particular source site. What do you base most of you info on. I get mine from the latest Forgotten Realms books.
Lady Rolindin 01-05-05, 12:53 AM	whick books, it would be good to see somthing in print about the war wizards, besides dragon magizines and other sorcess. this I don't know about the books.
Xen155 01-05-05, 01:01 AM	Really, the forgotten realms books written by Greenwood, Salvator, Byers? They are books written about characters in Forgotten Realms (the series name). If your intrested Lady, go here--> FR Book List (http://www.geocities.com/dragonfyrez/realms/booklist.htm)
Lady Rolindin 01-05-05, 03:18 PM	i've read most of the novels by them and have them. A source theat Orcy the green wonder can look up, the pn;y one's I've found are in the dragons magazines and at candlekeep .com. the wotc hasen't even put the red knights in any of their books as a temple as yet, only the dragon magazine has so far. it would be nice to see fr print a book on the classes and varient classes. all in one book, somthing like the fr classes of the realms. the candlekeep.com talks about the war wizard and the different levels of training they go through. the only source i've found on them, besides dragon magazine's. not even the 2e goes into the war wizards and how their made as a class.
Mr_GrinReaper 01-23-05, 10:27 AM	hmmmm... well if you really want something similar to the idea of the war wizard, in complete arcane there is the warmage. and also, if you want to be more fighter oriented be a fighter/sorc(or wiz) and go into the spellsword prc from complete warrior. But that does suck that they havn't made a Prc of that already. sorry if this has already been said, I haven't been able to access the internet for a long time for reasons beyond my control but im back now...
Kingside_Bishop 01-24-05, 03:15 AM	You find a blank note attached to the front door of your guildhouse... blank, except for three symbols... Upon examination, there appears to be a message written in ink visible only to the arcane eye... -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~--~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ךּבֿסּ The Shadow's Breath and Blade The Contract TermsHerein lie the terms that all patrons of the Assassin's Guild must agree to when contracting a task. All contracts are considered binding by the Assassin's Guild. The contracting guild agrees to pay the Assassin’s Guild an amount determined by the Assassin’s Guild, which will be disclosed before the pact is made, and which will be paid upon completion of the contract. Half of this amount is kept by the Assassin’s Guild, while the other half is paid directly to the assassin performing the task. The Assassin’s Guild agrees to perform the agreed upon task during the month specified by the contracting guild. If a month is not specified, the Assassin’s Guild will perform the task within three months. The contracting guild may request a specific assassin to perform the task, but this increases the cost of the task, administered by increasing the cost Multiplier of the contract by one. In the event that the Assassin’s Guild does not complete the task, the contracting guild receives a single reduction in the cost of one future contract, administered by reducing the cost Multiplier of said contract by one. If a party does not fulfill its contract obligations (by not paying the Assassin's Guild the agreed upon amount), they are subject to full persecution by the Assassin's Guild.The Price GuideThe Assassin’s Guild requires payment for its services. The cost of this payment will vary depending on the difficulty of the agreed upon task. Following is a guide for the pricing of assignments. Assignments are classified into three distinct groups. Each group has a corresponding Base Price and a set of possible Mulitpliers. To find the cost of a potential task, multiply the Base Cost by the total Multipliers. A task always costs at least as much as the Base Price, regardless of Mulitipliers.Espionage:Base Cost: 5,000 gp Multipliers: +1 per article of information contracted for, if information is specific +1 per 2 months of assignment, if assignment is on-going +1 per 3 members below 10 assigned guild has +1 per 5 ranks of Sense Motive assigned guild's Guild Master hasSabotage:Base Cost: 7,500 gp Multipliers:+1 per target item, holding, etc. if target(s) are specific +1 per month of assignment, if assignment is on going +1 per 3 members above 3 assigned guild has +1 per 5 ranks of Spot/Listen (whichever is higher) target guild's Guildmaster has +1 if target item, holding, etc. is protected from dimensional travelAssassination:Base Cost: 10,000 gp Mulitipliers: +1 per 2 levels of the target above 13 +1 per 5 ranks of Spot/Listen (whichever is higher) target has +1 per 5 points of Fortitude Save bonus beyond +5 target has. +1 per 5 points of Will Save bonus beyond +5 target has. +1 if target is protected from dimensional travel +3 if target is immune to critical hitsContracting an AssassinTo contract an assassin for the performance of a task, an individual (acting on his own or representing a guild) must contact the Guildmaster of the Assassin's Guild in a private communication detailing the nature of the proposed contract. The Guildmaster will then respond to the contracting individual in a similarly private communication, detailing the price of the contract. If the contracting affirms the contract through a final communication, the Guildmaster will then dispatch an assassin of his choosing to perform the contracted task. A party may request a specific assassin whose work they know, but this increases the price of the contract. Because the name of the assassin performing a task is never given to the contracting party, they must describe any taks that the specific assassin has done to contract for that assassin. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~--~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Dyne 11-27-05, 11:02 PM	:bump: I like the Purple Dragons of Cormyr too much to let this guild die. It might be a good time to start a new thread, though. On another note, since the Purple Dragons are based in Faerun, I wonder if the GM's would permit for a guild to be stationed in a plane other than Tyranor. Maybe even make districts for other planes? Maybe that's expecting too much.
baron_redscale 12-11-05, 09:59 PM	Long Live the Steel Regent and the Infant King Azoun V!! I would be honored to join this guild. I pledge my sword and my life to the defence of Cormyr & Cormyr's intrests
Dyne 12-12-05, 12:50 AM	A man in highly polished plate armor rides up on a magnificent steed to greet you. "I am glad to see I am not the only one loyal to the throne of Cormyr. The forces of darkness grow and threaten the peace of the land. The time is ripe for new heroes to emerge to meet the foe on the battlefield." This thread is a little outdated, though. The new one is here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=543612).