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| Arshes08-16-05, 09:13 PM | Welcome to the Tyranorian Royal Guard. This is intended to be the area where guard members can sign up, train, and relax on thier off duty time. Think NYPD meets Dnd. Members: Lane, Current Head Guard. The 'Big Cheese'. (Arshes) Divisions: W.A.S.P Drauguril (premier666) Thasis the Good (thasis) Infiltration and Deception The Serpent ;) Heavy weapons General Patrol officers Gurney Halleck Off Duty List: |
| premier66608-16-05, 09:15 PM | Put my character, Drauguril in! He's a LG Ranger. I'll present him in a few |
| Arshes08-16-05, 09:16 PM | what division? |
| premier66608-16-05, 09:25 PM | Ehh, waht is wasp anyway? |
| Arshes08-16-05, 09:41 PM | Weapons Abilities Spells and Powers. the Swat meets dnd. It's the best trained units, and the aplicants must go on a 3 week training course to get in.You get double pay though (500gp a week) and Access to better training yards. Infiltration is for rouges and stealthy people, as well as telepaths and diviners who can put thier talents to best use in that field. |
| Xen15508-16-05, 10:03 PM | What laws does this Guild enforce? Xen being the Arch-Mage of Law would be intrested though Im not sure what division he would be in. . |
| premier66608-16-05, 10:11 PM | Put him under W.A.S.P then. He specialises in combat (he is very good at combat, believe me.) and infiltration. |
| Arshes08-16-05, 10:15 PM | i'm going to send jagger a pm regarding what laws are in Tyranor. |
| Xen15508-16-05, 10:56 PM | So this Guild will be concerned only with Law or will it be concerned also with Good and Evil? |
| Arshes08-16-05, 11:03 PM | i've changed the name around a bit. the guild is mainly focused with upholding the laws of the guild wars and to keep people from doing illicit stuff (such as smuggling an army of skullcrusher ogres into a city so it is easy for the taking.) Lane is a monk that has had to put up with things such as dragonkith raids, rebellious half-humans (half-orcs, half-ogres, and the like), and a group of half-elves assasinating elves and humans. |
| thasis08-16-05, 11:37 PM | I'd like to sign Thasis the Good up as a WASP. He's more of the heavy spells guy. Actualy I'd prefer to work in a Negotiations part if there is one. |
| Xen15508-16-05, 11:39 PM | An Elf in loose black clothing and draping blue cloak walks into the Head Quarters of the Royal Guards. He glances around the room and nods, his dark black hair standing in contrast to his pale skin. Royal Guards of Tyranorian, I am Xen, Arch-Mage of Law in the Council. I wish to join this institution for I believe it can do great things in the pursuit of Law and Order. Will you have me? |
| jagggar08-17-05, 12:25 PM | i'm going to send jagger a pm regarding what laws are in Tyranor. Is me 'sposted to get a PM soon? |
| Arshes08-17-05, 02:04 PM | well, actually, i just need a list of some of the laws of the kingdom of tyranor so the guard knows what to adhere to and how to deal with those who break those laws. |
| Arshes08-20-05, 01:33 AM | I'd like to sign Thasis the Good up as a WASP. He's more of the heavy spells guy. Actualy I'd prefer to work in a Negotiations part if there is one. i'll set up an interrogations division. if you're in the wasp division, you may not survive (it has a 75% death rate) |
| Dyne08-26-05, 07:39 PM | A man in fine robes that bear the coat of arms of the Bristol Empire walks into the HQ. The man then unrolls a piece of parchment and speaks to the entire guild. "I bear a message from Lord William Bristol, King of Bristol and Leader of the Stormhand Federation. The Federation declares its refusal to accept a member of the Royal Guard in its midst to monitor its activities. Also, the Federation hereby declares the Royal Guards of Tyranor to be its mortal enemy and targeted for absolute and complete destruction." The man then awaits a response to the message he bears. |
| Arshes08-26-05, 08:10 PM | Lane walked out infront of the messenger, anger burning inside of his eyes. I should have suspected nothing less from that tyrant. Leave this city. And tell your master that if any member of his circle is found within the city, he will be killed on sight. He then walked away, a mysterious force pushing the man outside and shutting the door. Lane turned to his wife and spoke, his voice very serious. I will need to contact Arcanus. And we must gather the guards. See if you can find Xen. I will go to the Kinghts Keep myself. They took off in diffrent directions, Lane towards the Keep, and his wife towards the Halls of the Council |
| Xen15509-03-05, 12:12 PM | Forgive my abscence Guards I have been... busy. I am back and don't intend to go anywhere. If I am needed contact me magically, barring that I will be at the Council Of Arch-Mages. If the need comes I will respond to anycall for assistance so long as it does not comprimise the the Goals of the Council. In fact I beleive an alliance with the Council could be beneficial to both guilds. If you are intrested contact me with magic. Good day. Xen hurrys out of the HQ obviously on to other inportent buisness. |
| Gurney Halleck09-03-05, 05:19 PM | Hey, just thought I'd see if I can make myself useful on the boards again, and see if any familiar faces wanted to take me in. For this guild, I thought I'd be a heavy weapons specialist. Will you have me? The doors to the Guard's halls open as a man steps in. He is donned in a large, Crimson cloak that trails behind him as he strides by. Through the parted sides of the fabric, you can see the traces of a Silver Breastplate that shimmers magificently. Strapped to his back is a massive, Ebony-colored Greatsword. His appearance, if you had known him in a time before, has also changed. He now has long, parted amber hair, but still an icey blue gleam in his crystal eyes. The Beet-red scar, however, still resides on the right half of his face. He bows to you. "Greetings. I am Gurney Halleck, Previous Protector of the Halls of the Half-Elves, and Guardian of Goodly folk everywhere. I hope that I can find old friends, or new ones, so that I might help in the fight against evil once more. What say you?" |
| Sargatanas09-09-05, 08:43 PM | A cold wind blows through the Guard's Headquarters. The doors swinging open with the force of it. Appearing in thin air before the leader of the guard, a disembodied hand carries a scroll. It unrolls to reveal a message written in what must be blood. Dear Royal Guard, I, Sargatanas, Lord of the Damned, give you fair warning. Prepare your troops for battle, for soon I will come down upon you. Soon you will know fear and feel the fury of the damned. Should you fail to prepare yourselves, it is not my problem you will die all the same. But do try to put up a fight. I'm bored, and would like a little bit of a challenge. If you put up no fight, perhaps I will have to torment you for all eternity. On second thought, don't bother putting up a fight... it sounds like so much more fun to torment your wretched souls. -Sargatanas, Lord of the Damned In other words, I hope you have your guards statted out. If not, get them done, cuz I'ma comin for ya. |
| thasis09-09-05, 11:03 PM | Oi, looks like I'll need to create characters of Thasis the Good and Thasis the Evil. Damn... I was delaying that for as long as possible. Creating characters when dealing with creating Skygge takes to long... but I shall make it. |
| premier66609-11-05, 02:10 PM | A cold wind blows through the Guard's Headquarters. The doors swinging open with the force of it. Appearing in thin air before the leader of the guard, a disembodied hand carries a scroll. It unrolls to reveal a message written in what must be blood. Dear Royal Guard, I, Sargatanas, Lord of the Damned, give you fair warning. Prepare your troops for battle, for soon I will come down upon you. Soon you will know fear and feel the fury of the damned. Should you fail to prepare yourselves, it is not my problem you will die all the same. But do try to put up a fight. I'm bored, and would like a little bit of a challenge. If you put up no fight, perhaps I will have to torment you for all eternity. On second thought, don't bother putting up a fight... it sounds like so much more fun to torment your wretched souls. -Sargatanas, Lord of the Damned In other words, I hope you have your guards statted out. If not, get them done, cuz I'ma comin for ya. From the shadows, You see a humanoid wearing a cloack covering all his body. its possible to see elven ears sprouting out of the hood. You can come foul beast! The Royal guards aren't afraid of anone! Be prepared for the defeat of your life!...Or in this case, of your death... Interesting or not, this is the first roleplay post I put here... |
| Ashariana09-14-05, 10:08 PM | The large metal mass known to accompany Ashariana bursts through the doors. It stands in the hall and looks about at the men and women gathered. It growls out a mumble or two before it begins to talk. "Asha..riana... brings offer... she wonder if... anybody in Guards.. have enough courage, to challege... her in arena... to the death. She... does not accept... archmage Xen. Not want to... deprive council of it leader. Anybody... man enough... or too afraid of... uhm... frail little woman?" |
| thasis09-15-05, 10:04 AM | Thasis the Good looks up from some of his notes. "I will accept this challenge. I am in the need of a challenge" I have Thasis the Good done already. I just have to post it up. I'll do that after school today. |
| premier66609-15-05, 06:25 PM | THe figure in the shadows watch as the massive creature enters. I dont fight woman. |
| Sargatanas09-15-05, 07:37 PM | How comes the statting out of the soldiers of the guard? I've been waiting for them to be finished so I can wipe them out... :uh-huh: |
| Ashariana09-15-05, 10:53 PM | "Then go to Arena... challenge... Asha...riana... she await challenges from... any who brave enough. Man say he not... fight women... because he is... afraid of Asha...riana... Afraid of frail little woman." The hulking man looks around the entrance room a few times and turns. Slowly heading back out the door. |
| Xen15509-15-05, 11:12 PM | How comes the statting out of the soldiers of the guard? I've been waiting for them to be finished so I can wipe them out... :uh-huh: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: |
| Ashariana09-23-05, 01:39 PM | Ashariana approached the royal guard's halls with a sweet smile. Her massive companion walking right behind her and towering above. In one large hand he held his massive tower shield, his body clad in metal head to toe. Ashariana stops infront of the gates, her sweet smile remaining as she looks over any gate guards with a wink. "Hello boys, I'm here to request the surrender of the royal guard's lands, wealth, and... well... pretty much everything you have. If you do not surrender, you will be destroyed. Now, run along and tell your master." |
| premier66609-23-05, 10:26 PM | An elf appear out of the shadows just Behind Asharianna. He is wearinga a colak and holding a Longbow, but its not pointing anywhere. Back of m'lady, otherwise someone could get hurt. BTW, Since I'm in the Stormhand federation, I shouldn't fight for any sides. bUT since the good guys are so underpowered, Drauguril will stand for them. |
| Ashariana09-23-05, 11:45 PM | The mass of metal still stood directly behind Ashariana. Looking back over his shoulder toward the ranger and placing his hand on his weapon. Ashariana herself chuckled lightly glancing toward the man. Her eyes gazing as if she were trying to stare through him. She smiled sweetly and placed the back of her hand to her mouth as she laughed again. "Come now, do you really think you could harm me? Besides, I'm not exactly alone. I'll give you boys another chance to surrender." Edit: Oh yeah... is your character for this guild statted out Premier? |
| Sargatanas09-23-05, 11:51 PM | At that, the sound of many marching feet sounds from the distance. Over the horizon the undying armies of Sargatanas appear. Their rotting forms coming toward the royal guard's halls. Battle formations taken and banners unfurled, bearing the symbol* of Sargatanas' troops. Their march continues as Ashariana speaks with the men of the guard. *Symbol of Sargatanas: A rotting hand grasping a red ring. |
| premier66609-25-05, 07:58 AM | The mass of metal still stood directly behind Ashariana. Looking back over his shoulder toward the ranger and placing his hand on his weapon. Ashariana herself chuckled lightly glancing toward the man. Her eyes gazing as if she were trying to stare through him. She smiled sweetly and placed the back of her hand to her mouth as she laughed again. "Come now, do you really think you could harm me? Besides, I'm not exactly alone. I'll give you boys another chance to surrender." Edit: Oh yeah... is your character for this guild statted out Premier? Drauguril puts an arrow on his bow. and walks a few feet back. You have been warned. If you do not leave the halls shortly, Y]you will face death soon enough. He steps back, and disapear into the shadows. (Hide: 42 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=156179)) (yeah, he is complete, and has been aproved some time ago. But I think I forgot to put him on the new cahracter trhead. He is on the old aprovals list nevertheless) |
| Demonfey09-25-05, 09:45 AM | Hey, wait for a GM, people! |
| Ashariana09-25-05, 12:43 PM | Ashariana laughs while watching the man. She laughs as he walks backward and tries to hide while she is watching. She glances toward the big man who has taken up a defensive position watching the man. Her look seems to say 'is he serious?' Before she looks back toward him and smiles sweetly, placing the end of her staff on the ground. "Come now, you can't seriously think you can just sneak away from me like that. Besides you'll see soon enough that I am not your enemy. You will see that you do not want to harm me." From your character sheet (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=6683176), I see you don't have hide in plain sight. So I can still see you since you can't hide while being observed. Also, you need to make a will save, the DC of it is 29. |
| Sssargoth09-25-05, 01:04 PM | Hey, wait for a GM, people! Theres a GM here, for another hour anyway. |
| Xen15509-25-05, 05:17 PM | Xen appears behind the Royal Guards gate. He looks from Ashariana to Premier and back again. "Ashariana, I dont believe we have been properly introduced. I am Xen Arch-Mage of Law and freind to the Royal Guards. I have seen your... exploits at the Arena and have the utmost respect for you. What brings you to this humble fortress of Law?" He looks towards the army of dead and looks back. "I hope not the same reason as they." |
| premier66609-25-05, 05:35 PM | Ashariana laughs while watching the man. She laughs as he walks backward and tries to hide while she is watching. She glances toward the big man who has taken up a defensive position watching the man. Her look seems to say 'is he serious?' Before she looks back toward him and smiles sweetly, placing the end of her staff on the ground. "Come now, you can't seriously think you can just sneak away from me like that. Besides you'll see soon enough that I am not your enemy. You will see that you do not want to harm me." From your character sheet (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=6683176), I see you don't have hide in plain sight. So I can still see you since you can't hide while being observed. Also, you need to make a will save, the DC of it is 29. I was just trying to make a dramatic exit, I cant fight today, kinda busy, can we hold the situation till tomorrow night? |
| turalisj09-25-05, 05:44 PM | Zik appeared in a bang next to Xen. Ah, hello Xen, was wondering when you would be here. Lane should be around any second with reinforcments. He looked at Ashariana and shook his head. The Guard has made no attempt at harming you. Nor has the new steward of Bristol, Jacob, sanctioned this attack. Leave now, or you will have not one, but two archmages to defeat. ooc: that's right, zik's the serpent. I thought it would be a bit obvious since he is the archmage of snakes.... |
| Zombomaniac09-25-05, 06:18 PM | For the record Sargantas is attacking of his will so i have no way to stop him and in the SF I told everyone that they dont have to wait on me and if they want to do arena batles or whatever they can. IC jacob is in the middle of something, which OOC means I dont have his charater sheet done. So he wont likely be making a appearance here for atleast a little bit, and thus cant stop anyone from attacking the Guards. :) |
| Demonfey09-25-05, 08:41 PM | Ashariana and Sargatanas are GoUE members, so think of it as the GoUE getting impatient. |
| Wilds09-25-05, 10:18 PM | can't beleive ive missed so much fun A shadow is seen flying around the keep questions where is all of this taking place? the front gate? |
| Ashariana09-26-05, 12:32 AM | Ashariana looks toward Xen and smiles sweetly. She then looks towards Zik and promptly ignores him. Turning to wave a hand toward the foundation's halls she smiled again. Leaning her slim body against her staff she looked over the men before her. "Well, you see... I am here because the royal guard are so... lazy. They want to be protectors of the innocent, but all they've succeded in so far is stirring up war. Since then they've done nothing. They've tried nothing to help anybody, they've done nothing to protect anybody, they've just run around like a chicken with it's head cut off. They've run about trying to stir up other guilds into war against their enemy. Not very guard-like if you ask me. So I've decided to take over for myself. Really we don't have to fight, but I have no problems with it if you reeeaaallly want to. All that has to happen is the guard need to turn over control to me. Then everything will be just fine." You could have at least given me a save Premier. But I don't think everyone is around soo.... we probably wouldn't be like... playing tonight anyway. |
| Sargatanas09-26-05, 12:48 AM | The undead soldiers continue their march toward the Royal guard's halls. No soldiers of the guard apparently coming to meet them. They march on, growing ever closer to the guard's walls. Their numbers keeping rank and marching with their flags held high. Their dead eyes gazing out toward the target that lie before them. |
| Wilds09-26-05, 01:27 AM | The shadow swoops over the advancing legions. Belowing war crys and introductions to the forces. Then regains altitiude and circles. |
| premier66609-26-05, 03:27 PM | Ashariana looks toward Xen and smiles sweetly. She then looks towards Zik and promptly ignores him. Turning to wave a hand toward the foundation's halls she smiled again. Leaning her slim body against her staff she looked over the men before her. "Well, you see... I am here because the royal guard are so... lazy. They want to be protectors of the innocent, but all they've succeded in so far is stirring up war. Since then they've done nothing. They've tried nothing to help anybody, they've done nothing to protect anybody, they've just run around like a chicken with it's head cut off. They've run about trying to stir up other guilds into war against their enemy. Not very guard-like if you ask me. So I've decided to take over for myself. Really we don't have to fight, but I have no problems with it if you reeeaaallly want to. All that has to happen is the guard need to turn over control to me. Then everything will be just fine." You could have at least given me a save Premier. But I don't think everyone is around soo.... we probably wouldn't be like... playing tonight anyway. Just a quick apologise, I really did not expect to have to leave last night. anyway, I'll be online efectively in two to three hours |
| turalisj09-26-05, 05:29 PM | Zik took a ball of bat guano from his spell pouch and launched it at the third to first skeleton near him. It formed into a long serpent, it's tail striking all those near it (within 20ft), setting them ablaze. March further on and be destroyed. There has been no fights to break up, thus no need for men to march out needlessly. Return to your crypts vile creatures of undeath. Further away, horns sounded as an island approached in the distance, a great castle atop it. :cool: If you note Ashariana, the only guilds asked for aide are those who have reason to oppose the SF. oh, and Arshes wont be on today or tommarow, and I'll only be on for a bit longer. We both have the P.L.A.N. test tommarow. I'm getting set to go to his house to study right now. damage: 65 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?u=Zik&limit=on) I don't think an attack roll is needed. |
| Zombomaniac09-26-05, 05:58 PM | Zik, my dear unimformed friend. Read my posts. I said the SF is not the one moving on them right now and though the SF would like to see them gone as we are at war with them I dont like people spearding wrong information. Please correct you post. :) |
| turalisj09-26-05, 06:14 PM | better? and a 20ft by 20ft area was hit, destroying 16 of your skeletons sargantas. :P So much for your army of the dead. |
| Sargatanas09-26-05, 07:16 PM | *clears his throat* Lets see... to begin with, Turalisj, your lightning bolt could not have hit ANY skeletons, becuase they are not close enough. On top of that there are no skeletons in my army. There are bone creatures, but not skeletons. The Bone Creatures are background troops until mass combat is declared. THEN, they can be attacked. But not before. So, with all of that in mind. The undead forces ignore the waste of magic as it approaches. Moving onward and stopping. They take up ranks and prepare for combat. They ready themselves to do battle with the enemy. Their dead eyes staring ahead, creatures hissing at the enemy walls, hissing and smiling, seeking blood. Strangely, Sargatanas is nowhere to be seen among them. So much for your fancy "I kill a lotta skeletons" attack. Eh Turalisj? |
| Ashariana09-26-05, 07:25 PM | Zik took a ball of bat guano from his spell pouch and launched it at the third to first skeleton near him. It formed into a long serpent, it's tail striking all those near it (within 20ft), setting them ablaze. March further on and be destroyed. There has been no fights to break up, thus no need for men to march out needlessly. Return to your crypts vile creatures of undeath. Further away, horns sounded as an island approached in the distance, a great castle atop it. :cool: If you note Ashariana, the only guilds asked for aide are those who have reason to oppose the SF. oh, and Arshes wont be on today or tommarow, and I'll only be on for a bit longer. We both have the P.L.A.N. test tommarow. I'm getting set to go to his house to study right now. damage: 65 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?u=Zik&limit=on) I don't think an attack roll is needed. Ashariana watches the lighning bolt fly past and turns her eyes back on Turalisj. She smiles sweetly and shakes her head. Standing full up off of her staff she twirls it and places the end onto the ground at her side. Looking him over she shrugs. "You know... that was kind of pointless. It just kind of says 'look at me I think I'm powerful' as well as being an act of war really. Does he speak for the rest of the people here? Do you agree with his actions or is he just... jumping the gun a bit?" What is this big floating castle that you seem to have uhm... pulled out of uh... you know where? How fast does it move? Would it actually be able to arrive where we are within a few minutes time? Has it been approved by the GMs? Does it exist on paper? |
| turalisj09-26-05, 07:34 PM | Turalisj's somewhere off hunting kiths. That was Zik. And he was merely keeping the undead away from the castle walls. And that wasn't a lightning bolt, that was a fireball aimed at the closest undead units. Oh, and that floating castle is the merchent's venture. I just need to finish up the purchasing of some minor equipment; artillery, magic items, wonderous architecture, etc, and it will be ready to defend. Look at the Character Sheet for Zik. It was on the character sheet when Zik was approved, so I'm guessing it was okay'd. |
| Sargatanas09-26-05, 07:41 PM | Turalisj's somewhere off hunting kiths. That was Zik. And he was merely keeping the undead away from the castle walls. And that wasn't a lightning bolt, that was a fireball aimed at the closest undead units. Oh, and that floating castle is the merchent's venture. I just need to finish up the purchasing of some minor equipment; artillery, magic items, wonderous architecture, etc, and it will be ready to defend. Look at the Character Sheet for Zik. It was on the character sheet when Zik was approved, so I'm guessing it was okay'd. *shrugs* still doesn't really matter. They're background characters until any type of mass battle begins. |
| turalisj09-26-05, 08:03 PM | how far are your troops away from the hq walls? p.s- 2 hours until the merchant's venture arrives with backup. not only those of my troops, but I've been helping Arshes finish his soldiers stats. |
| Sargatanas09-26-05, 08:11 PM | how far are your troops away from the hq walls? p.s- 2 hours until the merchant's venture arrives with backup. not only those of my troops, but I've been helping Arshes finish his soldiers stats. Currently they're holding in the distance. Prepard for mass combat. Just background characters for now, like I said. Also.. two hours in game will be plenty of time. |
| Wilds09-26-05, 09:04 PM | The shadow flys towards the castle seeing it armed veers away and continues its lazy circles. |
| Xen15509-26-05, 11:42 PM | Xen smiles and replies to Ashariana. I don't believe the Royal Guards will surrender to you. And you must understand Ashariana, one with your... disposition, would not be so suited with leadership of such a Guild. So, will it come to aggresion between the Guards and you and your... allies? I hope not, but some things seem unavoidable to some people. My freind Zik might have been "jumping the gun" for only Lane can declare war, and you know how we wizards can be. |
| turalisj09-26-05, 11:55 PM | Wizards may, but sorceres rarely. Zik summoned forth a wall of granite, aiding to the defense of the Guard Headquarters. |
| Ashariana09-26-05, 11:57 PM | Ashariana nods looking toward Xen. She once again ignored the other mage. He was rather dim it seemed... rather than speak in any kind of peace he went about hurling spells. Her eyes locked on Xens and she scanned him, smiling sweetly once more. "Since you are here, I guess that means you plan to stand beside them right? I'm not sure that I can fight TWO archmages all by my lonesome... well... me and tin man here." |
| turalisj09-27-05, 12:08 AM | Well, I saw how you disarmed black mage in your last fight. And how you beat everyone else that came your way. I am no fool. I have learned time and again in my long life that looks can kill. Zik Said from over the stone wall. He wasn't going to take any chances with this one. |
| Ashariana09-27-05, 12:10 AM | Well, I saw how you disarmed black mage in your last fight. And how you beat everyone else that came your way. I am no fool. I have learned time and again in my long life that looks can kill. Zik Said from over the stone wall. He wasn't going to take any chances with this one. You put the wall infront of yourself? |
| turalisj09-27-05, 12:12 AM | not directly. about 40ft infront of the keep's walls. but that's still enough space to have to talk over. anyway, i've got a test tommarow, so night for now.... |
| Xen15509-27-05, 12:16 AM | Xen continues to stand behind the gate speaking to Ashariana. It is my hope Ahshariana that it does not come to that. But yes, I do intend to stand beside my freinds if battle must be engaged. And we both know you are more than capable of defending yourself. I have not seen your companion in battle but I am sure he is no weakling himself. I have also not seen the Lord of this undead army that is arrayed befor us, so I must assume you are in command. My Lady, what is going to happen here today? And... Im not suuure what the Wall of stone is about so im going to ignore it. |
| Sargatanas09-27-05, 01:08 AM | The air suddenly seems heavier around the gates. Xen and Zik both fealing weaker, in the same instance, a ripple cuts through the stillness. Sargatanas appears to Zik's side, a hand touched to the divine symbol on his neck. Zik's arms begin to pulse and twist. To the other side, Lady Alanya materializes, a sickly ray streaking out from her outstretched palm to strike Xen. The ray striking him but seemingly doing nothing. Lord Kanosic appears atop the wall and his eyes flash as he gazes down at Xen. His will pressing in an attempt to take control of his mind. Behind Xen, the large undead minotaur appears, his arms reaching down to grab hold of the archmage. His hand smacking the mage and attempting to pull him to himself and hold him down. "Enough! It is time for your deaths!" Breakdown: Zik needs to make a DC 20 fortitude save or his arms are withered, meaning he can no longer cast spells or use any items. Lady Alanya hits Xen with a ranged touch spell but fails to overcome his spell resistance (accursed robe!) Lord Kanosic attempts to dominate Xen using his vampiric natural abilities. The as of yet unnamed minotaur appears behind Xen, hits him with a touch attack to initiate a grapple and gets a 31 on his opposed roll for the actual grapple. (no AOO for the touch because its suprise and Xen is technically flat footed) rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?u=Sargatanas&limit=on) Also note that you are each under the effects of TWO atropal scion auras. Since they are not named penalties, you both act as if under four negative levels (-20hp, -4 attacks, skills, saves, ability checks, and -4 effective level) |
| Ashariana09-27-05, 01:08 AM | Ashariana curses. Pointing her staff toward Zik and firing a ball of green energy from it's tip. The ball streaking out and exploding in a green goo over his body. The acid burning into his flesh. "You couldn't have just waited a few more moments brother!? Well archmage, apparently now you must die. I am sorry, I wanted to keep you out of this!" Touch attack: 13* (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=157479) *this is a hit considering Zik would be flat footed Damage: 54 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=157497) To note... I would be infront of the wall since it's 40ft away from the keep and I was by the gate... |
| Wilds09-27-05, 01:24 AM | A below is heard over heard as the dragon dissapears towards some unknown location. Off in the federation "yes yes, ok, ill go sheeze pushy dragon" |
| Xen15509-27-05, 02:32 AM | Impressive Sargatanas, but here is the problem. Becuase of the lack of a GM I could only tell the one person im interacting with (Ashariana) about my readyed action (cast quickened teleport if attacked). Had I been aware of your plans for the sneak attack I would have alerted you. But I wasn't, so what to do now? I will cover both scenarios. A. I teleport to the Council, safe but suprised ****less. B. Vampiric Dominate Save 27 (13+14) Grapple Check 16 (6+10) In obvious pain and anger Xen flashes a quick smile. Well Sargatanus, I guess we all have a time. I hadn't quite expected mine to come so soon though. I guess we shall see... Rolls under GuildHouse-Xen. Ok then, Ill wait for you to respond. |
| turalisj09-27-05, 06:36 AM | never knew a minatour could climb a 20ft wall. edit: oh, and sorry for not saying this before, but the guard hq is unader an effect of antiteleportation. to prevent convicts from getting in or out you know. So having your elite troupe of undead suddenly appearing next to us wont happen,. But then, so will xen's teleporting. sorry xen. |
| Sargatanas09-27-05, 08:24 AM | never knew a minatour could climb a 20ft wall. edit: oh, and sorry for not saying this before, but the guard hq is unader an effect of antiteleportation. to prevent convicts from getting in or out you know. So having your elite troupe of undead suddenly appearing next to us wont happen,. But then, so will xen's teleporting. sorry xen. I didn't teleport. I've been here the whole time. Ask a GM. |
| jagggar09-27-05, 08:25 AM | All right, and do we know about how much anti-teleportation would cost? What did everyone think the set-up looked like before the attack? Positions and such. |
| thasis09-27-05, 09:50 AM | Oi, I'm thinking I'm going to join this fight. Get some action in with mein character. So I guess I should just walk in and make a iniative check? |
| Sargatanas09-27-05, 10:33 AM | Also to note, I the minotaur is over the wall because hes a VAMPIRE. He can climb walls... easily. So currently I'm waiting on a save from Turalisj and Premier for Zik and Daruguril. Xen, I guess you can teleport away, unless the guy who actually created the guild tells us the place is anti-teleport and the GMs were told beforehand. It doesn't matter to me. (we didn't wanna kill ya anyway) |
| jagggar09-27-05, 11:38 AM | Not yet Thas'. We need to get the current stuff sorted out. I'd like to know how everyone pictured their positions before the attack. |
| Wilds09-27-05, 12:26 PM | EDIT: retracked previous statement Incarin will arrive soon, as per new orders. He will come from down the road and go to the front gate. Onyx will be in the air still. |
| Sssargoth09-27-05, 01:43 PM | Oi, I'm thinking I'm going to join this fight. Get some action in with mein character. So I guess I should just walk in and make a iniative check? Dont you have an initiative to roll at the arena? On the anti-teleporting. I was not informed of anything like that being in place here. Xen, you may teleport away if you can. |
| Sargatanas09-27-05, 02:57 PM | Positions... I was over the wall having been carried by the minotaur. I kept a 5ft space (one square) between myself and Zik. Zik and Xen being behind the gate. Ashariana was about... 10-15 feet out on the other side of the gate. My army is probably a good... 50-100ft out away from the walls, background until mass combat begins. My two atropal scions are currently still invisible. Though they're released their auras from their holding position. My desecration aura is also active at this time. I think Ashariana's cohort is in the same space as her (bodyguard feat and class allows that to work where he can now defend her). Thats where I think everyone is at, from their RPing and stuff. Also... since that was technically a suprise round, I don't think we should be rollin any initiative yet... or we could all roll it. *shrugs* On the teleporting thing. If teleportation in and out is blocked how did YOU teleport in Turalisj? Oooooh, denied! |
| Demonfey09-27-05, 03:08 PM | Sargatanas, Sssargoth had already covered the teleportation issue. |
| Zombomaniac09-27-05, 08:38 PM | Sargatanas, Sssargoth had already covered the teleportation issue. Considering the "Oooooh, denied!" I am betting it was a joke. Speaking of bets who wants to place one at the Betting Booth? :D |
| turalisj09-27-05, 09:08 PM | Well, Zik's dead. He has no way of escaping, he has four negative levels, and is surrounded by undead. Tried to help as long as I could Arshes, but you're on your own now. I'm going tro start working on a new character..... |
| premier66609-27-05, 10:11 PM | Thanks for the help archmages! Now its the time for the Royal guards to strike back! You see a humanoid wering a cloack covering all his body. Underneath it there is the shining of metal in a chain shirt. The cloak appears to change color depending on the background, making dificult to look at him directly. His hood cover his face with shadow, but its possible to see elven ears sprouting out of the hood. He is holding a two-bladed sword, and is 30ft in front of Sargatanas (that is, if no one is there first). Come on, undead scum! Show me what you got! Init: 26 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158010) Guess what, I'm back! Sorry for the delay Asharianna and others. Can anyone tell me what is the initiative order? |
| Demonfey09-27-05, 10:14 PM | By the way, no one ever sent any NPC guards. PS: DAMN, Sargatanas, that's a lot of undead. (looked at your PC's list of followers, assuming standard stats for NPCs) |
| premier66609-27-05, 10:20 PM | By the way, no one ever sent any NPC guards. I cant, cause I dont have leadership neither we have finished our NPCs that I know of... |
| jagggar09-27-05, 10:21 PM | Of course, that would be assuming they're done. There currently is no initiative order. I'm trying to figure out if everyone had the same picture of where everyone was standing. (from the way I visualized things I'm not sure about everything, but I can miss stuff when it's all RP text) If I could hear a bit more from the Guard side on that? |
| premier66609-27-05, 10:33 PM | Again, I cant telll cause I was'nt here. But the way I see it, The mages were right behind the gates. I was the only outside, but I got a PC problem and disapeared in the shadows. EIDT: BTW, where is Arshes? its his guild who is being atacked! |
| Demonfey09-27-05, 10:34 PM | Sargatanas has a good description. Look at it and then decide if that's what you want it to be. |
| premier66609-27-05, 10:37 PM | Sargatanas has a good description. Look at it and then decide if that's what you want it to be. I Think I should be inside the gates, cause I'm standing 30ft away form sargatanas. And I'm tauting him to fight in case thats no clear. |
| Wilds09-27-05, 10:49 PM | A shadow grows in the disrtance getting larger as it gets closer |
| premier66609-27-05, 10:53 PM | A shadow grows in the disrtance getting larger as it gets closer Another reinforcement for the federation? |
| turalisj09-27-05, 10:53 PM | Again, I cant telll cause I was'nt here. But the way I see it, The mages were right behind the gates. I was the only outside, but I got a PC problem and disapeared in the shadows. EIDT: BTW, where is Arshes? its his guild who is being atacked! grounded twice. Once for sneaking out when he was supposed to get his homework done, and a second time when he got caught on KotORII. That means I have to figure everything out, includign the rest of the follower stats. But this seems like a lost cause, since the only one realy able to fight is the lone ranger. Zik can't escape now, and he's lost alot of hp due to level drain. BTW: does an atropal scion's aura stack with others aura? Anyway, I'm tired and have to be up at 5:30, so please, no killing Zik before I have a chance to do atleast some actions. |
| turalisj09-27-05, 10:58 PM | Sargatanas has a good description. Look at it and then decide if that's what you want it to be. what I thought it was is sargantas, ashariana, and the other undead were waiting to attack. Zik was ontop of the keep, looking down from about 40ft. Oh, and Jagger, doesn't the city itself have conscripts that are supposed to help out? :confused: |
| premier66609-27-05, 10:59 PM | grounded twice. Once for sneaking out when he was supposed to get his homework done, and a second time when he got caught on KotORII. That means I have to figure everything out, includign the rest of the follower stats. But this seems like a lost cause, since the only one realy able to fight is the lone ranger. Zik can't escape now, and he's lost alot of hp due to level drain. BTW: does an atropal scion's aura stack with others aura? Anyway, I'm tired and have to be up at 5:30, so please, no killing Zik before I have a chance to do atleast some actions. Oh, cammon, hope is the last to die. Perhaps the dice roller could start to love me and hate my enemies. :D :rolleyes: |
| Xen15509-27-05, 11:04 PM | Also to note, I the minotaur is over the wall because hes a VAMPIRE. He can climb walls... easily. So currently I'm waiting on a save from Turalisj and Premier for Zik and Daruguril. Xen, I guess you can teleport away, unless the guy who actually created the guild tells us the place is anti-teleport and the GMs were told beforehand. It doesn't matter to me. (we didn't wanna kill ya anyway) Well, I guess Xen had to telport with his tail between his legs this time. Nice move Sargantanus, wont underestimate ya again though! Xen will make his apperance here when he is prepared, probably 10-15 mins IG time. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-27-05, 11:09 PM | @Xen I just gotta post at HEF. If you need help, holler. regards stav |
| premier66609-27-05, 11:11 PM | Dudes, I'm off to bed, gotta school tomorow. |
| jagggar09-27-05, 11:16 PM | grounded twice. Once for sneaking out when he was supposed to get his homework done, and a second time when he got caught on KotORII. That means I have to figure everything out, includign the rest of the follower stats. Do you know how long he's grounded? Cause maybe then someone else should take his place in the gladiator match. |
| turalisj09-27-05, 11:21 PM | about a week, don't know for sure though. I'll ask him tommarrow on the bus. |
| Demonfey09-27-05, 11:23 PM | If you want, I could try and fill in. Tetsuo or Igor would probably be good fits. |
| jagggar09-27-05, 11:35 PM | what I thought it was is sargantas, ashariana, and the other undead were waiting to attack. Zik was ontop of the keep, looking down from about 40ft. Oh, and Jagger, doesn't the city itself have conscripts that are supposed to help out? :confused: Nope. :P Give me some basics and I'll help you round out the guard though. And this would be the conflict I thought I saw: Xen is at the gate. Ashariana and Sargatanas are outside the gate. Zik joins Xen. Zik casts a spell in a manner which implies he is at the top of a tower by the gate. People are confused, but don't catch what it implies when it comes to visualization. Sargatanas, could you clarify how each of your characters get to their current positions? I'm a bit lost when it comes to the minotaur vamp and which wall he carried your character over. about a week, don't know for sure though. I'll ask him tommarrow on the bus. Okay. I think I may ask Orcy if we can either get a replacement or start the combat with only 5. |
| Demonfey09-27-05, 11:40 PM | I think I got it: the minotaur vampire, who is a servant of the catfolk vampire general, was ordered to scale the wall earlier and break in. Sargatanas became invisible and hitched a ride and rode up, while leaving an illusion in his place to throw people off, because as a necropolitan, he doesn't have vampire powers and can't climb walls like that, and since he is the general, it is expected for him to be at the front of his army. On which wall, my belief is that he meant the granite wall, although that is just a guess. |
| Ashariana09-28-05, 12:34 AM | First of all... Premier... ROLL A WILL SAVE! I've asked you a few times now... Second.. is Xen rolling his percentage chances of destination for his teleportation? :P Third... I think Sargatanas and his vampires climbed the walls of the guard house to get to the other side to attack Xen and Zik (who said he was beside Xen) on the inside of the gate. There is no initiative because we were all readied for a suprise attack (which just occured). We could roll initiative now I guess but uhm... one archmage fled, the other has all but surrendered... and the ranger STILL NEEDS TO MAKE HIS SAVE! |
| jagggar09-28-05, 01:13 AM | First, the save should be rolled. Second and Third, I've PMed Sssargoth with some thoughts. I'd like to hear it from Sargatanas just in case he means something different enough to make a difference. Best way to avoid becoming further confused I think. |
| Wilds09-28-05, 01:48 AM | reinforcements, i guess you could call it that, more like joining the fun. I cant teleport, so hitching a ride on a dragon is close enough. The billowing cloud of shadows grows closer, passing over the undead army. |
| premier66609-28-05, 04:57 PM | STILL NEEDS TO MAKE HIS SAVE! sorry, I forgot about it. Here it is: Will save: 13 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158412) (I'm not sure why, but I feel like I should start to roll a new character... :weep: ) what was the efect again? |
| gabrion09-28-05, 05:03 PM | sorry, I forgot about it. Here it is: Will save: 13 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158412) (I'm not sure why, but I feel like I should start to roll a new character... :weep: ) what was the efect again? You might be lucky you failed. She's probably going to dominate you, which makes it slightly less likely that she will kill you on the spot. ;) |
| Wilds09-28-05, 05:10 PM | If shes in a good mood :P Incarin floats up the road, "Couldn't miss a fight" With that he sinks into the ground |
| premier66609-28-05, 05:17 PM | I think I'll stop fighting her definitly. This is going to be the second character that loses to her. And this one is not likely to survive.... And I did not even layed a single blow... |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 05:20 PM | Well, at least you still have your hands so far... |
| turalisj09-28-05, 05:38 PM | I say they got the upperhand in this fight. |
| Ashariana09-28-05, 05:41 PM | Ashariana smiles sweetly toward the ranger over her shoulder. She turns back toward the others with a smirk. The ranger's eyes, now seeming blank and dim turn toward Turalisj as he moves to stand beside Ashariana. "Good boy... I knew you would see things my way. Now, be a good boy, it is about time to finish the job." Daruguril is now under the effects of Dominate, hes also my new permanent thrall. Also, since we're finishing saves. I think Zik still needs to make his fortitude save from Sargatanas' spell. |
| Sargatanas09-28-05, 06:51 PM | Alright, I'm tired of waiting just to have Turalisj moan about it being hopeless... so while I wait for his save, I've rolled initiative. Minotaur: 17 Alanya: 15 Sargatanas: 15 Kanosic: 8 rolls are here (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158475) |
| Wilds09-28-05, 08:17 PM | Incarin glides up. "Nicely done" Daruguril is now under the effects of Dominate, hes also my new permanent thrall. Also, since we're finishing saves. I think Zik still needs to make his fortitude save from Sargatanas' spell. OMG :bigeyes: Thats fricking ridiculous. Just to try to keep this somewhat fair. Your old thrall is now an NPC. But seeing that your new thrall is :mymy: it doesnt look like it will be a problem. Int 9 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158561) |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 08:22 PM | I was planning on sending a character to help our evil side, but it looks like that would just be wasted effort. |
| gabrion09-28-05, 08:23 PM | [COLOR=Indigo]Daruguril is now under the effects of Dominate, hes also my new permanent thrall. See premier, it's a good thing you failed that save! Now your character gets to stay alive (as a slave of course), but if someone kills Ashariana you can have him back. If you made the save on the other hand....well things didn't look good. |
| Solmund09-28-05, 08:37 PM | Incarin glides up. "Nicely done" OMG :bigeyes: Thats fricking ridiculous. Just to try to keep this somewhat fair. Your old thrall is now an NPC. But seeing that your new thrall is :mymy: it doesnt look like it will be a problem. Int 9 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158561) I thought her hulking friend was her cohort. :confused: |
| Ashariana09-28-05, 08:37 PM | Incarin glides up. "Nicely done" OMG :bigeyes: Thats fricking ridiculous. Just to try to keep this somewhat fair. Your old thrall is now an NPC. But seeing that your new thrall is :mymy: it doesnt look like it will be a problem. Int 9 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158561) I don't have an old thrall. |
| Sssargoth09-28-05, 08:42 PM | I thought her hulking friend was her cohort. :confused: Her "hulking friend" as you put it, is, in fact, her cohort/bodyguard. |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 08:43 PM | So the big guy that's your bodyguard isn't a permanent thrall? |
| Ashariana09-28-05, 08:44 PM | So the big guy that's your bodyguard isn't a permanent thrall? Hes my Cohort. Just the silent type. |
| Zombomaniac09-28-05, 09:06 PM | Just to clear this up Ashariana's "Tin Man" that Big guy who followers her is gained through her leadership feat. The Ranger is now her slave through the MindBender class. Zik is dead, but he still needs to amke the save for game purposes. DF keep that Evil PC ready you never know what may happen. And last but not least we are winning and have a great time of it. :D |
| gabrion09-28-05, 09:20 PM | @badguys-My new character is coming to visit the Royal Guards to see if he wants to join (lol), but I don't want to drop into the middle of your action. Right now (as outlined by Zombo) it looks like most things are under control, but just give me a heads-up when you think it is officially the "aftermath." Basically, you guys are kicking butt, so I don't want to just drop another random good-guy into the fray until it's cool with you. |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 09:34 PM | Just to clear this up Ashariana's "Tin Man" that Big guy who followers her is gained through her leadership feat. The Ranger is now her slave through the MindBender class. Zik is dead, but he still needs to amke the save for game purposes. DF keep that Evil PC ready you never know what may happen. And last but not least we are winning and have a great time of it. :D Sargatana's army is huge. I looked at it and I decided that I never want to face that many undead. |
| Zombomaniac09-28-05, 09:42 PM | Sargatana's army is huge. I looked at it and I decided that I never want to face that many undead. Few men have spoken wiser words. :D |
| Solmund09-28-05, 09:53 PM | :eek: So.. many... undead. And my critical hits will have no effect on them :weep: MAybe I can negotiate with thier master...... @Sargantas: you could very well become the demigod of undead in this game. So many undead. Too many undead...... |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 09:59 PM | See why I don't think I'm needed? He has that many undead, and two are Atropal Scions. They are incredibly powerful beings. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-28-05, 10:02 PM | Silimina (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=7376504&postcount=60) She is Silmarien's second cousin. Anglar (the evil) was a thought vampire and ravaged her in another campaign. But, she survived the battle at Evermeet when the Drow assaulted the Evereskan Mythal. I'm PMing Jagggar about how to introduce her. She's been around in my works for a long time. I've made her into a drop-dead boring cleric for the purposes of my posting here. She looks different in our Wildthread Campaign world (see HEF). She needs some finishing touches, including Domains. I have to look up Ellistrae's allowable domains. @bad guyz *grins* @good guyz *grins* |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 10:06 PM | Why not join Igor and Striker on the way there? |
| Zombomaniac09-28-05, 10:12 PM | We still may need to find out how many troops the Guards have since their corpses add to the army of Undead and IC they exist they just we never made OOC. If everyone wants to we can forget about them and say they never existed. Just putting in my :twocents |
| premier66609-28-05, 10:16 PM | Oh, my poor litle ranger. seriously, Ashariana, that was a mean thing to do with my ranger. :weep: I would rather have died fighting then just being dominated... B (BTW, I never thought of doing something like this to PCs. The PCs in my campaign are going to have a nasty surprise... :devil: ) |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-28-05, 10:35 PM | until I hear from Jagggar, all I am prepared to do is an RP preparative post..... A distant chanting suddenly permeates the aether, as an almost imperceptible breeze blows, carrying with it the faint smell of blossom. You can hear the echoes of long gone conversations: of Silmarien giving birth to The Twins, and Anglar's baritone laughter. A brief vision from what must be another time flashes suddenly before you. You can see The Drow assaulting the Evereskan Mythal and Anglar The Evil, who came from another Dimension, has enslaved Silimna, who is almost all Drow blood. For Anglar was a Thought Vampire and he abused and ravaged Silimna for nigh six months, 'ere, Castor Troy broke the hold of Shar over Evereska. At that time Silmarien and Castor Troy were bent upon healing the ailing Elven Mythal, for a crack had appeared in the Evereskan Mythallar and through this crack, The Mythal's power was endangered. After the Mythal was repaired, Silmarien and an army of Elves met with Matron Mother O'pele'var'esse. At that confrontation, it was discovered that the Drow had devised new, dark Lore, akin to Elven High Magic. The Drow were vanquished, and Matron Mother fell out of favour with Lolth. Silimna was freed - with an enduring memory of the violence of the Undead to come to terms with. The break away group of Drow who follow Ellistrae continue their work in the Underdark, and Silimna and Silmarien retain close contact. The events on Tyranor are a part of Silimna and her folk's focus..... Silmarien's face appears, as an apparition, before the Enslaved mortals. Her baleful stare and flashing green eyes bear down on the Vampires. There is an explosion of Silveryblue as her eyes scan the room, and then lock upon Ashariana. "You violate another's freedom." (the next bit has not happened....) Suddenly, the room goes dark as pitch.... |
| Zombomaniac09-28-05, 10:38 PM | ok Sil before you do anything make your PCs if you havent already. Before you can DO anything you must be approved. Otherwise you will only complicate things. If you dont have approved PCs please refrain from RP posts. :) |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-28-05, 10:41 PM | ok Sil before you do anything make your PCs if you havent already. Before you can DO anything you must be approved. Otherwise you will only complicate things. If you dont have approved PCs please refrain from RP posts. :) Already on the PC thread, with a linking URL two posts of mine upstream. I've already been in contact with Demonfey about it, and written to Jagggar. thanx |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 10:42 PM | Sil, you can't just have your character appear out of nowhere. No one else (besides Turalisj, anyway) has. Please, don't, because it just causes problems. I'll check the character over. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-28-05, 10:45 PM | Sil, you can't just have your character appear out of nowhere. No one else (besides Turalisj, anyway) has. Please, don't, because it just causes problems. I'll check the character over. I know. That's why I've written to Jaggar about it. Please be patient. Regards stav |
| premier66609-28-05, 10:46 PM | Well better late then never. Hopefully more people will get encouraged to come and help the guards. Anyway, I gotta go to bed, scholl tomorrow. See you later. |
| Demonfey09-28-05, 10:46 PM | Sil, you are approved. Put you at the front of the list because you're trying to get into the action. Only reason Gabrion isn't approved is because of an issue with one of his tactics still being cleared up a bit. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-28-05, 10:50 PM | Sil, you are approved. Put you at the front of the list because you're trying to get into the action. Only reason Gabrion isn't approved is because of an issue with one of his tactics still being cleared up a bit. Thanx DF, I tried to create a pretty uncontroversial PC. @all Silimna is not new to this scene. I don't want to spoil the surprise elements too much, other than to say she is part of a spliter group of Drow rebels and she has 1/4 High Elven blood. That splinter group have method, motive and opportunity to know things about Tyrannor, but the actual details are not public. I'm waiting to hear back from Jagggar. thanx gotta fly now..... stav |
| Solmund09-28-05, 10:51 PM | I'll pop by later, once I get the knights to give me membership. :) |
| Zombomaniac09-28-05, 10:54 PM | Now then lets contuie the battle now. Shall we? :D |
| Ashariana09-29-05, 12:37 AM | Now then lets contuie the battle now. Shall we? :D Is turalisj even actually dead? I though he still had uhm... 3 HP left. Essentially hes going to die, but IS he dead? Also... I'm not going to sit around and wait for Silmariens character to just suddenly appear to assist the royal guard. Thats just not fair to have someone who doesn't exist in any roleplaying (in tyrannor) to suddenly appear to help a guild. |
| gabrion09-29-05, 12:45 AM | Also... I'm not going to sit around and wait for Silmariens character to just suddenly appear to assist the royal guard. Thats just not fair to have someone who doesn't exist in any roleplaying (in tyrannor) to suddenly appear to help a guild. I think this is a fair statement. I did say earlier though that my character will be showing up pretty soon. For the record though, I won't be coming to fight unless I'm attacked (although I may say mean things). If you don't think that's fair just say so and I'll delay my arrival even longer. Then again, I think jagggar is already in the process of deciding who will show up when. |
| jagggar09-29-05, 12:56 AM | Sargatanas, Sssargoth said you sent him some messages with details of what you were doing, but that he didn't save them. If you happen to have them still, could you forward them to me (in case you would prefer to not publicly post them)? Combatants, I'd like initiative rolled by everyone (some of you have already done this). I believe Zik still has a saving throw (Fort) to be rolled. (I'd like to note that with no hands/arms you are still able to cast spells as long as there is no somantic componet or it's a still spell.) Looking at pages 22 and 23 of the 3.5 DMG I would say that our situation falls somewhere between "Both Sides Aware at the Same Time" and "One Side Aware First". I hope that Sargatanas' action summary will give some insight into exactly how much happened. Those wishing to join combat, So far I've got Sil and Wilds in line. If I'm not mistaken, Gabrion and company wish to arrive for the aftermath. If anyone else would like to join combat, please say so. I'm trying to work a rough formula in my head for order and turns. Other than that, I can say I'm tired. |
| Wilds09-29-05, 01:30 AM | ok, so now the mindbender is a god. "Since when do drow care about another person being controlled? Very hypocritical if u ask me" Incarin says as he floats back into view. Onyx settles down on the ground behind him. Oynx, is my cohort, he is a juvenile shadow dragon (i beleive) hes only going to fight if mass amounts of peopel get involved, or if he is attacked My Int is 9, from a previous post, when ever its relevant |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 02:08 AM | I've done what I can tonight. I'll be back on tomorrow. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 02:14 AM | Sargatanas, Combatants, I'd like initiative rolled by everyone (some of you have already done this). I believe Zik still has a saving throw (Fort) to be rolled. (I'd like to note that with no hands/arms you are still able to cast spells as long as there is no somantic componet or it's a still spell.) Those wishing to join combat, So far I've got Sil and Wilds in line. If I'm not mistaken, Gabrion and company wish to arrive for the aftermath. If anyone else would like to join combat, please say so. I'm trying to work a rough formula in my head for order and turns. Other than that, I can say I'm tired. Thank you Jagggar. I have to complete my PC's finishing touches. Onto it now. I'll PM you my spell lists as well, and information about the Drow Splinter Group's activities. My initiative, base, was 18 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161415) Total: 19 - let me know when it applies or when to begin. @all You'll see Silimna reworked at the HEF. At this time, Lady Rolindin, Redhase, hopefully Von Crown, Demonfey and myself are working on Wildthread R&D on an e-mail list. It's an exciting variation of core rules and we'll output at the HEF or related threads, in time. Some of our works are in the last few pages. You may join in by requesting it in a PM. regards stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 02:18 AM | I've done what I can tonight. I'll be back on tomorrow. Good evening to you, then. regards stav Character History is at Bottom-Please Read (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=7376504&postcount=60) The Character History occurred at WotC, with Anglar, Tenzhi and several others |
| premier66609-29-05, 11:46 AM | Is turalisj even actually dead? I though he still had uhm... 3 HP left. Essentially hes going to die, but IS he dead? Also... I'm not going to sit around and wait for Silmariens character to just suddenly appear to assist the royal guard. Thats just not fair to have someone who doesn't exist in any roleplaying (in tyrannor) to suddenly appear to help a guild. In case you dont know, we have not started turns yet, so anyone can show up. AND, anyone can teleport in at any time. Also, everyone who is a mage has some means of knowing what is happening somewhere else. For example, BM is watching the battle using arcane eyes. Finally, everybody in tyranor knows about this figth its hard to miss an army of undead marching around. (BTW, I'm trying to be impartial here, cause my character is already gone anyway. Dont blame me for anything) |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 12:04 PM | Hi Premier, I've just posted the history of Silmarien and Silimna at the HEF. I'm interested in feedback - for example, where is it easy to read, where is it too complex and what can be cut out. It's a true excerpt from actual RP, both here and at MotP, before we could post IC at Foundations. @All Silimna was enslaved by Anglar the Fell, and he was brought to Realmspace by Matron Mother Op'ele'va'esse (played by yours truly, at the Drow Foundation) from another reality. Silimna was enslaved by the Thought Vampire after she helped Sil and Ang. The secrets of the Rebel Drow and Elven defences were learned. Matron Mother lauched a two-pronged attack on the Elves, but was repelled at the eleventh hour by Castor Troy's mending of the Mythallar. Silimna was freed and healed at Peredhil Halls, after the Pereldar sent Anglar the Fell back to his reality. The Silimna has lasting trauma from her abuse by a Thought Vampire. And she and the Drow of Eilistraee are an organised rebel group, whose have an interest in outcomes in Tyrannor. These Drow have motive, method and opportunity to intervene for the right causes. stav |
| Wilds09-29-05, 12:06 PM | Start making a new one to come in and blastifie every one there :D |
| Orcy The Green Wonder09-29-05, 12:08 PM | In case you dont know, we have not started turns yet, so anyone can show up. AND, anyone can teleport in at any time. Also, everyone who is a mage has some means of knowing what is happening somewhere else. For example, BM is watching the battle using arcane eyes. Finally, everybody in tyranor knows about this figth its hard to miss an army of undead marching around. (BTW, I'm trying to be impartial here, cause my character is already gone anyway. Dont blame me for anything) Personally (and Orcy has suggested this to at least one GM) Orcy believes that if a person has either never posted in character on a specific thread, or has not posted for weeks of time or so, they cannot simply join into a battle. While they may be able to watch, keep in mind that not everyone can teleport, and even if they could there is a percentage chance that they will not arrive at the correct destination. Tyrannor is a big place, travel takes time. Besides, it isn't fair to those people who are initiating the attack to simply have defenders appearing left and right. Orcy also doesn't think it is fair for the attackers to have people appearing randomly as well (so organize attack groups well). Orcy supposes it goes back to his time on free form messageboards. People tend to suddenly appear to save the day, and it gets rather bothersome. Orcy refers back to the HEF fiasco we had before the end of the last games. There were characters being pulled out of every crevice known to man for that one. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 12:13 PM | Depends. Lurkers read and don't post. First, for example, many groups will keep a low profile, except for certain events. Second, The Winter Leaf, for example, are spies. They don't declare their activities, generally. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 12:16 PM | Depends. Lurkers read and don't post. Also, many groups will keep a low profile, except for certain events. Second, The Winter Leaf, for example, are spies. They don't declare their activities, generally, but will, of course, intervene when the timing's good. As for Silimna, she's been around a lot longer than most and has a real, rich history, with method, motive and means for getting involved. stav |
| jagggar09-29-05, 12:26 PM | Wrong. People who can't teleport can't teleport in. And no one is going to be entering until we have the suprise round worked out as a bare minimum. Okay, here's what I'm thinking. Xen said he told Ashariana that he had a readied action to teleport. Verification would be nice. Did Ashariana tell anyone she had a readied action to use her staff? And what was that to be triggered by? If those aren't verifiable, I'm going to rule that Inititive comes into play right after Sargatanas' groups actions before Ashariana's. I think Ashariana, Xen, and Zik need to roll initiative still. In the Future. . . Even if no GM is on, PM one with your readied actions before the action gets triggered. When the GM does get on, he/she will be able to say, "Yes, So-and-so did have that readied." But right now. . . I'm still working on the order for others to show up. Don't think I've forgotten that. Oh, and Stav, they aren't in a room. They're outside by the front gate. |
| Orcy The Green Wonder09-29-05, 12:27 PM | Those people who have not posted, and have not infromed the GMs of any activities, technically do not exist in game. While Silimna may have existed in some other game or in your own head, she has never existed in the guild wars up until this point. The random appearance of a character to suddenly save the day has, and always will, ring as a "cheap" action to Orcy. Something that he highly disapproves of... however. Orcy is no longer a GM. So he can't exactly enforce any such rules. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 12:30 PM | In the Future. . . Even if no GM is on, PM one with your readied actions before the action gets triggered. When the GM does get on, he/she will be able to say, "Yes, So-and-so did have that readied." noted. Oh, and Stav, they aren't in a room. They're outside by the front gate. thanx. I've gone to the bother of synthesising Silimna's history at the HEF. Tenzh was part of that story. Please read if you get a spare mini. It will explain a bit about Silimna motivations. regards stav |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 12:43 PM | Stav, I have an idea on how your character could join in more explicably. You could run across the small team headed in from Ghashmal Keep, and join them on the way over. It would also give an entrance for the character into the game that will not be debated as much. Oh, and possibly strengthen an alliance between the HEF (or whatever you make next) and the Ghashmal Keep group. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 12:46 PM | Those people who have not posted, and have not infromed the GMs of any activities, technically do not exist in game. While Silimna may have existed in some other game or in your own head, she has never existed in the guild wars up until this point. The random appearance of a character to suddenly save the day has, and always will, ring as a "cheap" action to Orcy. Something that he highly disapproves of... however. Orcy is no longer a GM. So he can't exactly enforce any such rules. I've explained how she's legit. Please read my Character sheet, her history's there, and its also at the HEF. Silimna's posted at the HEF, at the Drow Foundation and, as explained upstream - as well as MotP. There's lotso words worth of summarised data to read about her, and Anglar, Tenzhi, Aravilar, and a number of others remember her. She's legit. She's actually about a year old, in real time. Been here longer than a lot of other PCs. My Advice to you Join the Winter Leaf and spy on Foundations. :) stav |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 12:50 PM | Sil, please join the group, if only because with the number of undead and three PCs (thrall), any backup will need all the allies they can get to survive long enough to do any damage. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 01:03 PM | In case it was missed, please enjoy reading to catch up. It should assist to understand what makes Silimna tick and also hints at method, means and opportunity. http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=7378705&postcount=6642 [QUOTE=Demonfey]Sil, please join the group, if only because with the number of undead and three PCs (thrall), any backup will need all the allies they can get to survive long enough to do any damage. Thanx DF, She's a cleric of Eilistraee - homeland's in the Underdark, a community of various kinds of classes. What she knows, is thru Arcane means and thru ties to other covert operatives. She'll be happy to forge ties with Ghasmal Keep, with the usual provisos about allies. I'm happy to run with Jagggar's DMing, here. She's got us cued to enter, I believe. regards stav |
| gabrion09-29-05, 01:03 PM | Sil, please join the group, if only because with the number of undead and three PCs (thrall), any backup will need all the allies they can get to survive long enough to do any damage. What, you don't think we can handle them? ;) |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 01:15 PM | Sargatana's army is over 100 strong, and his two "generals" have their own small armies. Sargatanas also hasn't even filled up his total possible soldiers, yet. Ashariana is able to control enemies and it seems no one has an eye of winking. Her bodyguard is enormous, we have only one primary fighter and someone who can become the secondary anything, a primary mage/surgeon whose most helpful graft won't be useful in this fight except against the bodyguard, and now with Sil, we have a primary healer. We need help. |
| Wilds09-29-05, 02:25 PM | This whole thing has degenerated rapidly. Peopel from teh Federation have a legite reason i beleive, zombo said that we could aid our members if we choose to. Though having the whole of this world joining the fight would make it pointless. Shouldn't only peopel who are directly related to the two groups be allowed in the fight? IF that means that my character is not allowed in the fight I'm fine with that. It just seems like everything is going ot get more confusing if random people start showing up. Teleporitng especially, because tehy have never seen the area before. Just seems kind of strange, I'm beginning to see why some peopel dont like teleport, it does make things seem rather cheap. We need to figure out who is going ot be fighting and close it after that. Then we can get the fight going. I dont care if Incarin is not allowed because he was not there from the start, I will watch anyway. And no one else should care if they are not allowed if they have nothing to do with the fight. Some guilds may have legitatme reasons to jion the fight. But even then, are they really going to be able to mobalize that fast? |
| Ashariana09-29-05, 03:08 PM | Yes... I believe this is getting a bit out of hand. I mean... I understand people wanting to "get in on the action" but there will be other fights some time. There are people who have JUST posted characters and asked to have them approved so they can join the fight. That just doesnt seem right to me. I mean, my character has been in the game for a while now, so has Sargatanas. But there are just some people who suddenly appear in the world to come fight? It just seems... wrong. Anyway... I rolled initiative: Ashariana: 7 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158827) Skartog: 20 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158827) I find it funny that the slowest character here has a natural 20... |
| Wilds09-29-05, 03:17 PM | It does seem wrong. It seems almost worse than having random people show up to fight. Ashariana, my char will back out if you think that it is too crowded. I had him come because it seemed like a good time to test him out and to aid the federation. People appearing randomly to fight is well rather random, it would seem that the only reason that the character was made was to aid one side and that it has no real other bases in the world. Well w/e lets see what teh Dms have to say |
| Ashariana09-29-05, 03:22 PM | Well... currently you are the only "bad guy" to show up. So I'd prefer if you would stay... if the rest of them insist on coming. But for the current fight, I would rather you just stand by, I'm sure we can handle it. If other people jump into the fight though, you can take action. |
| Solmund09-29-05, 04:27 PM | Sargatana's army is over 100 strong, and his two "generals" have their own small armies. Sargatanas also hasn't even filled up his total possible soldiers, yet. Ashariana is able to control enemies and it seems no one has an eye of winking. Her bodyguard is enormous, we have only one primary fighter and someone who can become the secondary anything, a primary mage/surgeon whose most helpful graft won't be useful in this fight except against the bodyguard, and now with Sil, we have a primary healer. We need help. I take it I'm the primary fighter? :D and no, I don't exactly want to take on anyone right now. I'd rather not have my character turned into a thrall/wight in his first fight. |
| Sargatanas09-29-05, 04:42 PM | I take it I'm the primary fighter? :D and no, I don't exactly want to take on anyone right now. I'd rather not have my character turned into a thrall/wight in his first fight. Then I would suggest staying back. Because if people start showing up, I'm pulling out the troops in mass combat form. Then... stuff will die. Speaking of which, do we know anything about the guards troops? |
| Solmund09-29-05, 05:21 PM | nope. haven't seen either of those bums in a while either. and my character ingame doesn't know what is happening. as far as he knows, the royal guard is still a safe haven and you and your army are far far away. |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 05:32 PM | Yes... I believe this is getting a bit out of hand. I mean... I understand people wanting to "get in on the action" but there will be other fights some time. There are people who have JUST posted characters and asked to have them approved so they can join the fight. That just doesnt seem right to me. I mean, my character has been in the game for a while now, so has Sargatanas. But there are just some people who suddenly appear in the world to come fight? It just seems... wrong. Anyway... I rolled initiative: Ashariana: 7 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158827) Skartog: 20 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=158827) I find it funny that the slowest character here has a natural 20... In my case, I thought that it would be a good place for Igor to make money and actually get use with him. |
| Sargatanas09-29-05, 05:35 PM | In my case, I thought that it would be a good place for Igor to make money and actually get use with him. Maybe I'll even sell him an undead or two to make grafts from... if I feel like it? |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 05:40 PM | I take it I'm the primary fighter? :D and no, I don't exactly want to take on anyone right now. I'd rather not have my character turned into a thrall/wight in his first fight. Yup. @Sargatanas: we plan to arrive after the main war strike. I was hoping something like emergency medics. OOC, I hope to be able to make a name with grafting and replacing limbs that may be lost. |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 05:45 PM | Maybe I'll even sell him an undead or two to make grafts from... if I feel like it? Not necessary. The required stuff is raw materials and money. Mostly money. I can make and attach grafts relatively quickly. |
| premier66609-29-05, 05:45 PM | Ok, lets clean the house. For reasons stated above, I changed my point of view. I think Ashariana and Sagatarnas Should just finish this first battle. Then, the Aid (Silmarien, Solmund, gabrion, or anyone else ) should arrive later, coming too late to help the city, but perhaps soon enouhg to try to save the main castle, or die atempting (how dramatic :D ). And perhaps, could be enough time for the other archmage to come and help. ALSO REMEMBER EVERYONE, THIS IS THE FIRST ATEMPT TO MAKE A MASSIVE COMBAT, ITS BOUND TO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS, SO TRY TO BE COOL ABOUT IT. :cool: (PS. I'll post a sugestion on how I think Massive battles should be handed in the Meta thread later.) |
| Solmund09-29-05, 05:59 PM | why do I get the image of legolas, aragorn, gimli, and gandalf walking towards tyrannor? I'm going to get working on my own general type character. One who can match Sargantas nearly troop for troop. :P |
| premier66609-29-05, 06:09 PM | why do I get the image of legolas, aragorn, gimli, and gandalf walking towards tyrannor? I'm going to get working on my own general type character. One who can match Sargantas nearly troop for troop. :P I didn't really thought of LotR, but it does seems similar to how I described. WHat od youy all think of what I said? We need opinions here. |
| Wilds09-29-05, 06:13 PM | the one with the elves? i remember that one..... Ok, Incarin will hold back unless more "good" peopel show up. Incarin floats back to Onyx, "So what odds do you think?" "The mindbender looks strong, but they have more people it would seem, or at least more concentrated power." "Pfff, dragons...." |
| Sargatanas09-29-05, 06:14 PM | I didn't really thought of LotR, but it does seems similar to how I described. WHat od youy all think of what I said? We need opinions here. I think we should finish the battle before Igor and the rest arrive. But, I think you missed that most of em don't plan on fightin. |
| premier66609-29-05, 06:19 PM | I think we should finish the battle before Igor and the rest arrive. But, I think you missed that most of em don't plan on fightin. Well, they are coming into a den full of undead, to a castle being atacked. And they dont plan on fighting? Gee, And I still had hopes for this guild.... I should better start rolling a new character... |
| Solmund09-29-05, 06:39 PM | there's good news and bad news. the good news is that I should have an army large enough to challenge the army of the dead. Bad news is that it'll be with my evil character, so you'd more likely find him help Sargantas. :D |
| Wilds09-29-05, 07:34 PM | WOW :plotting: |
| jagggar09-29-05, 08:25 PM | Ashariana, Did you tell anyone that you had a readied action for when Sargatanas & Co. appeared? Did Xen tell you he had readied teleport in case he was attacked? I still need initatives for Xen and Zik. And a Fort save for Zik's arms. Here's how things will roll. If the readied actions are allowed, Xen gets a chance to teleport away, but the minotaur will get an AoO against him. Ashariana's orb will have been cast as above. If the readied actions are ruled against, Then we will start down the initative count and call it round one. Xen will still be there and Ashariana's attack will not have happened. Everyone: If you'd like to help, then stop talking about who should or shouldn't arrive when. Instead, answer the following question: If you were running a game with a tense social encounter which could break into combat at any moment, would you allow characters to ready actions? If part of the PCs' or BBEG's plan was to attack while invisible, would you allow the invisible attacker's ally to ready an action to attack when the invisible person appears if the ally has no way of seeing the invisible person*? *If Ashariana has a way to see invisible creatures, please point it out 'cause I didn't see it. |
| Ashariana09-29-05, 08:47 PM | Ashariana, Did you tell anyone that you had a readied action for when Sargatanas & Co. appeared? Did Xen tell you he had readied teleport in case he was attacked? I still need initatives for Xen and Zik. And a Fort save for Zik's arms. Here's how things will roll. If the readied actions are allowed, Xen gets a chance to teleport away, but the minotaur will get an AoO against him. Ashariana's orb will have been cast as above. If the readied actions are ruled against, Then we will start down the initative count and call it round one. Xen will still be there and Ashariana's attack will not have happened. Everyone: If you'd like to help, then stop talking about who should or shouldn't arrive when. Instead, answer the following question: If you were running a game with a tense social encounter which could break into combat at any moment, would you allow characters to ready actions? If part of the PCs' or BBEG's plan was to attack while invisible, would you allow the invisible attacker's ally to ready an action to attack when the invisible person appears if the ally has no way of seeing the invisible person*? *If Ashariana has a way to see invisible creatures, please point it out 'cause I didn't see it. I did ready an action, I'm pretty sure I told Sssargoth about it. The action was ready to use when I saw any threatening movement (after Turalisj's spellcasting started). Because I kinda felt the talking was going down the hill. I knew sargatanas was there because he came with me. If a giant vampire minotaur appearing behind a mage isn't enough of a 'hey, time to act' cue, I don't know what is... |
| Solmund09-29-05, 08:53 PM | mwahahahah!!! I plan on turning atleast half of tyrannor into my psionic slaves with my believers and thrall. :D :evillaugh You know, mind control is a very powerfull thing. And so is having an army of fanatically loyal soldiers. edit: is it legal to have your thrall be a thrallherd aswell? :D |
| Ashariana09-29-05, 08:55 PM | mwahahahah!!! I plan on turning atleast half of tyrannor into my psionic slaves with my believers and thrall. :D :evillaugh: You know, mind control is a very powerfull thing. And so is having an army of fanatically loyal soldiers. Yes... I know. |
| Sssargoth09-29-05, 09:17 PM | mwahahahah!!! I plan on turning atleast half of tyrannor into my psionic slaves with my believers and thrall. :D :evillaugh You know, mind control is a very powerfull thing. And so is having an army of fanatically loyal soldiers. Your a member of the Psionics foundation so I still get to boss you around. :P edit: is it legal to have your thrall be a thrallherd aswell? :D Unfortunately no. That falls under the "Cohort cant have Leadership" ruling. |
| Solmund09-29-05, 09:30 PM | then sargantas's cohort can't have leadership either, correct? :D |
| Demonfey09-29-05, 09:34 PM | I thought that fell under necromancer army... |
| Solmund09-29-05, 09:40 PM | undead leadership is basically the same as leadership. But why don't we move this to the meta thread? |
| gabrion09-29-05, 09:43 PM | I'll try to answer jagggar first... (Read at risk of hating rules lawyers) Everyone: If you'd like to help, then stop talking about who should or shouldn't arrive when. Instead, answer the following question: If you were running a game with a tense social encounter which could break into combat at any moment, would you allow characters to ready actions? If part of the PCs' or BBEG's plan was to attack while invisible, would you allow the invisible attacker's ally to ready an action to attack when the invisible person appears if the ally has no way of seeing the invisible person*? *If Ashariana has a way to see invisible creatures, please point it out 'cause I didn't see it. From the SRD: If some but not all of the combatants are aware of their opponents, a surprise round happens before regular rounds begin. Any combatants aware of the opponents can act in the surprise round, so they roll for initiative. In initiative order (highest to lowest), combatants who started the battle aware of their opponents each take a standard action during the surprise round. You can also take free actions during the surprise round. If no one or everyone is surprised, no surprise round occurs. So the evil undead lord no doubt gets his suprise, but as for the rest of the group (unless Ash had some way of knowing what the undead were doing), they need either a way to see invisible creatures (which no one claims to have had), or... A Spot check result higher than 20 generally lets you become aware of an invisible creature near you, though you cant actually see it. and... Spot Check Penalties Condition Penalty Per 10 feet of distance -1 Spotter distracted -5 So it would need to be determined how close (in feet) any of the invisible creatures got to each person present. That number divided by 10, plus an addition 5 (since banter would constitute as a distraction) would be the penalty to the spot check everyone shoud have made to see if they noticed the invisible creatures. Also, unless the undead have some way of cancelling the noise they make, they would need to make move silently checks to get into position in the first place (with no modifier as far as I can tell). The people unaware of the undead would need to make listen checks (with the same penalty as their spot checks) as per the rules for that skill. Of course if all that is taken into consideration it may lead to retroactive actions and confusion, but I thought I should bring it up anyway. If I were a GM (hahaha) I would just make everyone's listen and spot checks for them and then let the undead and anyone who was aware of them act in the suprise round. As for readied actions.... NO! Readied actions are the equivilant of a suprise round, but after combat starts. All of the language associated with those rules indicates that it is a mechanic ment to be used during combat. In short, when people are standing around talking before a fight, readied actions are not applicable (actually they just aren't applicable until initiative is rolled). Just let people act if they are allowed to during the suprise round, then roll initiative and see what happens On people showing up: On the topic of other people showing up, I'll point out one more time that Striker and company will show up after the fight and have no initial plans of combat. I'm thinking of it as more of an RP opportunity to show up at the sight of carnage caused by the GoUE and be like "wow these guys are nasty." If you want to attack people you've never seen on sight, then that's your prerogative, but I think this could be a fun little exercise. Then again, if you guys are going to camp out after the fight for any amount of time, then we will eventually show up. We can even do it the next day if you want. Or if you guys (evil people) want to have fled the scene before we get there, that's cool too. Either way, you all have enough to concern yourselves with at the moment, so I'll leave you alone. :) |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 09:51 PM | Everyone: If you'd like to help, then stop talking about who should or shouldn't arrive when. Instead, answer the following question: If you were running a game with a tense social encounter which could break into combat at any moment, would you allow characters to ready actions? Yes. Especially those that have limited moves involved. But your call, boss. If part of the PCs' or BBEG's plan was to attack while invisible, would you allow the invisible attacker's ally to ready an action to attack when the invisible person appears if the ally has no way of seeing the invisible person*? *If Ashariana has a way to see invisible creatures, please point it out 'cause I didn't see it. Hmm, there are rules for seeing invisible, DMG. If you know there's an invisible person around, there's a DC threshold that applies. The key to it is knowing whether or not an invisible person is around. I'll check the DMG, hang on. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 09:54 PM | DMG, p. 295, Listen Checks to Detect invisible. If the team arrived at mutual understanding about the 'cue' to act in concert, you could do it. stav one for the invisible team. it's an impartial analysis. |
| Wilds09-29-05, 10:31 PM | I do not see how it is legal for some one to ready an action to attack an invisible person once they become visible if they did not it was there. That would be like me saying, attack the next person walking through the door, if someone was talking about it in the thread but hasnt done it yet. It just doesnt work. Thrallherd, isnt like leadership i thought? well thats for the dms to figure out. Incarin and Onyx both ready actions to retaliate if any one attacks them. They will also engage combat if the tides turn against Ashariana. Until then they will watch. thats my chars move thingys. just so teh dms know, cause pming is going to be chaotic really soon. No cheating off of what my chars are doing pls. |
| Silmarien Aldalome09-29-05, 10:40 PM | I do not see how it is legal for some one to ready an action to attack an invisible person once they become visible if they did not it was there. That would be like me saying, attack the next person walking through the door, if someone was talking about it in the thread but hasnt done it yet. It just doesnt work. Thrallherd, isnt like leadership i thought? well thats for the dms to figure out. Incarin and Onyx both ready actions to retaliate if any one attacks them. They will also engage combat if the tides turn against Ashariana. Until then they will watch. thats my chars move thingys. just so teh dms know, cause pming is going to be chaotic really soon. No cheating off of what my chars are doing pls. Hi Wilds, I may have missed something, or made different assumptions to you. Normal. That's why we gotta DM. @all Decisions often get blurry. At the end of the day, win some, lose some and the DM decides. Let's make their jobs bearable, by being mature. When Jagggar posts her wishes, let's stick to it, and move on. Save the fight for Melee, or for social causes, civic action or for challenges to the 'system' when it's time. I.e. 'choose your battles' - let's have fun here. I'm gunna hang around for another hour or so, but have business to attend to. (our washingmachine has decided to take a holiday.... *pats machine* 'thank you, dear washer, for washing thousands of loads of clothes. We promise to get the best mechanic to fix you up, and enjoy your break. Kind Regards The Residents. *winks* stav |
| Wilds09-30-05, 01:55 AM | Hi Wilds, I may have missed something, or made different assumptions to you. Normal. That's why we gotta DM. Ok???..... Im confused. Lets get things organized. Arg, ill read this tomorow, class in 7 hours isnt looking to fun right now and their is no way i am lucid right now |
| Sargatanas10-02-05, 01:36 PM | I'm beginin ta get the sneaking suspicion that Turalisj is purposely putting off rolling initiative until Arshes isn't grounded. I wanna get this thing underway already... the waiting is just so boring. |
| Wilds10-02-05, 02:39 PM | Just launch the attack then. No need to wait for someone who brought a punishment upon themselves. We could set up the intitave anyway. IF some one hasnt posted theirs yet then they wont fight, simple enough. This type of waiting is worse than boring, its aggervating |
| gabrion10-02-05, 04:47 PM | IF some one hasnt posted theirs yet then they wont fight, simple enough. Of course the question is how do you attack someone who isn't part of the fight? I'm afaid there is little choice but waiting for the initiative to be rolled. Plus I think the GMs are still trying to sort out the situation, so I would suggest waiting for a green light from them before going any further. |
| Sssargoth10-02-05, 04:56 PM | If turalisj doesnt roll initiative in 24 hours from this post, he is being sent to the 1st layer of the Abyss for 20 minutes IG. At that point, or when he rolls innitiative, the battle can start. That is my official ruleing. There are no negotiations. |
| gabrion10-02-05, 05:39 PM | If turalisj doesnt roll initiative in 24 hours from this post, he is being sent to the 1st layer of the Abyss for 20 minutes IG. At that point, or when he rolls innitiative, the battle can start. That is my official ruleing. There are no negotiations. Well that settles it then! |
| Sssargoth10-02-05, 06:07 PM | Well that settles it then! And thats an understatement. :P It felt good doing that btw. |
| Abicus Acton10-02-05, 06:59 PM | If turalisj doesnt roll initiative in 24 hours from this post, he is being sent to the 1st layer of the Abyss for 20 minutes IG. At that point, or when he rolls innitiative, the battle can start. That is my official ruleing. There are no negotiations. Hail Sssargoth! GM of getting things done! I am hoping this is settled soon. This battle seems to be holding up the whole forum, and I am anxious for things to get moving again. |
| Zombomaniac10-02-05, 07:50 PM | This post is not spam even though I am putting different versions of it in a few threads. I have been grounded. :weep: And thus wont be able to post very often. The only times I can till I am ungrounded are when Mum isn't home and at school. Both make it much harder to do anything dice whise. More will be in other posts as they pretian to the threads I post them in. @Sssargoth Good choice. I am glad to see we have one of the "I dont care if you dont like it, it needs to be done" DMs. :cool: |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-02-05, 08:32 PM | Well that settles it then! Certainly does. *nods approvingly* "I dont care if you dont like it, it needs to be done" DMs. yes, That's what DMs are for. We're not supposed to like all their decisions, as long as they deliver decisions with basic civility. @all I've contacted the GMs and let 'em know about some of the 'how' the Drow of Eilistraee, and The Winter Leaf do their thang. The HEF remains in metadimensional space, due to non-compliance. But, it's getting very fun with what we're doin' there. Lots of output and ideas and activity.... regards the washingmachine died and has gone to its maker and resurrection didn't work. It's tired. We're about to go to the washingmachine birthing place and add a new member to our family |
| Ashariana10-03-05, 12:27 AM | The abyss huh? I'll have to call up a few friends and tell them I'm sending some dinner. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 12:34 AM | *Calls Orcus, Grazzt, and Demogorgon* Get everyone to the first layer... :D |
| Ashariana10-03-05, 01:43 AM | I had a few ideas... ok... first. Instead of like, sending Zik to the abyss, just put him at the end of the initiative order. Then you can always send his soul to the abyss when he dies. For the guild's followers. If they aren't posted by tomorrow we can assume their base followers, which I've worked out to be the following... Royal Guard guild Leadership: 10+3 guild leader's cha+1 members cha= 14 Lane's leadership: 22 (15 level, 3 charisma, 2 great renown, 2 stronghold (followers)) Guild Followers: 1: 15,2: 2 Lane's followers: 1: 75, 2: 7, 3: 4, 4: 2, 5: 2, 6: 1 If there are any problems with my calculations, go ahead and fix um. I'm not sure if like, the GMs want to use Lane's followers when he isn't around, but thats what they would have with the basics... unless of course I did something wrong. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-03-05, 02:48 AM | @Ashariana atsa way! *smiles* I had a few ideas... ok... first. Instead of like, sending Zik to the abyss, just put him at the end of the initiative order. Then you can always send his soul to the abyss when he dies. For the guild's followers. If they aren't posted by tomorrow we can assume their base followers, which I've worked out to be the following... *chuckles* that's before bouncing 'im to Arvandor where he'll have nothing but Lembas to eat for all Eternity. @All Just in case you thought I was making Silimna up, I've just re-read the opening post of the Enclave of the Winter Leaf (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=6363290&postcount=1), dated the 5th of June 2005 (at the 11:11 - my favourite time - Armistice Day time). Note the bloodline relationships in the Opening Post for Varendil. By birth, he's the son of Silimna, related to Silmarien, connected to the Drow of Eilistrae. He's a Half-Elf with Drow blood, "the Chaotic Renegade Half-Elf" - who was expelled from the Northern Flame for having human blood. The Northern Flame is also called the Ost-In-Edhil and Formeno Naśrė (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=55582) (which is a foundation that existed for the same purposes, but before we got gifted with the Guild House. It's at MotP). But Silimna's also at the HEF, about June last year. Her grandmother (Silossė) is from the Northern Flame and is also Silmarien's grandmother. Regards stav |
| Sssargoth10-03-05, 04:56 PM | Turalisj's time is up. He is at the bottom of the initiative order. Start the battle! |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 05:04 PM | Undead legions go on Sargatana's initiative, right? |
| jagggar10-03-05, 06:05 PM | Undead legions act on their own initiative count and need stats. Refer to here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5996208&postcount=10) for Unit Stat-Block. Additionally, the undead legions start 1000 ft away from the stronghold. Otherwise we have to press rewind because they would have been within range for Zik's fireball. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 06:19 PM | Alright. Just checking. |
| Ashariana10-03-05, 06:28 PM | Ashariana's large companion takes up a defensive position to guard Ashariana. Keeping ready to defend her should the time come. He lifts his shield and takes his weapon off his belt. Hes just going to ready to take action to defend Ashariana. |
| Sargatanas10-03-05, 06:49 PM | The minotaur crosses it's arms and looks toward Zik. He stands on lower ground so there isn't a lot he can do to him from here. Alanya on the other hand, smiles and waves goodbye to Zik as she sends a group of magical bolts into Zik's chest. Striking with un-failing accuracy. She smiles and looks around for any other enemies. Well... I think thats it. Zik was the only one left. If not... I still go on a 15 (same as Alanya). Magic Missile Damage: 16 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160727) (should put Zik at -13) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-03-05, 06:57 PM | is there a post with positions? stav |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 07:05 PM | Well... I think thats it. Zik was the only one left. If not... I still go on a 15 (same as Alanya). I think basic warriors were generated simply so it wouldn't end that fast. Ashariana made a basic build. |
| Sargatanas10-03-05, 07:10 PM | I think basic warriors were generated simply so it wouldn't end that fast. Ashariana made a basic build. If the other guys get even close to us, they'll die. Levels 1-4 will be slaughtered by my atropals. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 07:13 PM | True. But it will give you a chance to make more minions. |
| Sargatanas10-03-05, 07:18 PM | Well... when do they go. Where are they positioned. Etc, so on and so forth. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-03-05, 07:35 PM | OoG: The surprise initiative is cleared with the GM Suddenly, in a flash of Diviner-blue, an almost-Drow-like woman appears. She has almost the same hair colour as Silmarien and her eyes are the same emerald gree. She's got a brilliant divine radiance that surround her, and it's anathema go Undead. When she appears, she raises her hands, a holy symbol in her hands. Her eyes are glowing with a Blue Divine Sight and she can sense and feel Undead. You cannot pass! Begone and Eilistraee's Grace Ward this place Spell=Holy Aura Turn Result=17 Base (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/addtodatabase.asp) + Phyllectory of Undead Turning, grants Turn as 19th Level Cleric. Can turn a 23rd level HD thingy. and rolled 8 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/addtodatabase.asp) 8 Base + 15 = 23 for the next bit. She running Detect Undead. gotta go. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-03-05, 07:37 PM | Note: Holy Aura is self + 1/4 lvls. So, good allies in area, can have the help. stav |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 07:39 PM | But HOW did you get here, Sil? It helps to mention the small details like that. Also, there may still be guards to slaughter. On arrivals, ten more rounds okay for the arrival of Gabrion and myself, GMs? At least, when it is confirmed? |
| Wilds10-03-05, 08:08 PM | wait Sil can just pop in? That aint cool, at least let us see why, instead of "ive been talking to the dms." sorry, just kind of annoying, cause then random stuff happens and we dont know why. "Whys the dark elf helping them?" "I dont know, I stay away from dark elves" p.s. is the final intiiave list anywhere cause i looked and couldnt find it |
| Sssargoth10-03-05, 08:13 PM | But HOW did you get here, Sil? It helps to mention the small details like that. Also, there may still be guards to slaughter. On arrivals, ten more rounds okay for the arrival of Gabrion and myself, GMs? At least, when it is confirmed? Teleported in. He PMd me if it was ok to do that stuff and I ok'd it. I told him he is most likely going to get killed too. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 08:16 PM | Teleported in. He PMd me if it was ok to do that stuff and I ok'd it. I told him he is most likely going to get killed too. Is ten rounds from now okay for Gabrion and myself to arrive, Sssargoth? |
| Sargatanas10-03-05, 08:30 PM | How about a GM posts and tells me that you have the right to show up like that? For now, I'll just go with it. But if the GMs say otherwise, then thats what they say. The minotaur takes action. Charging foreward at the new arrival. It's head lowered it brings it's horns at her in a goring slam. Sargatanas hisses at the symbol and turns. Walking away from the holy symbol and it's holder. He growls and hisses a few words back to his fellows. "Slaughter her." Kanosic gazes upon the cleric and pulls a bow from his back. Sending an arrow at her chest with a quick pull. Meanwhile, the undead army begins it's approach. Minotaur attack: 21 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160757) (hit) Damage: 29 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160758) Sargatanas retreats from the turning (and only him, as there are only 2 HD worth of undead left after him). Kanosic's Attack: 29 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160759) Damage: 11 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160760) Thats it for my turn, total damage done: 40 |
| Sssargoth10-03-05, 08:35 PM | Is ten rounds from now okay for Gabrion and myself to arrive, Sssargoth? Sure. Just dont anger the undead. ;) |
| Wilds10-03-05, 08:35 PM | Whos side are you two gana be on? |
| Solmund10-03-05, 08:47 PM | But HOW did you get here, Sil? It helps to mention the small details like that. Also, there may still be guards to slaughter. On arrivals, ten more rounds okay for the arrival of Gabrion and myself, GMs? At least, when it is confirmed? *hits demonfey upside the head with a rolled up newspaper* you forgot me. I was traveling at the same time you were. And I think we're nuetral unless provoked. |
| Ashariana10-03-05, 09:03 PM | Ashariana smirks at the newcomer. Why DID she want to die so much? She inclined her head toward her and Daruguril took off at a run. Leaping into the air he twirled his two bladed sword above his head. Slashing at the drow with a lion's fury. Ashariana held up her staff. Pointing it toward the woman she sent another greenish blast flying from the staff toward her. This would be a quick end for such a minor annoyance. (using Lions Fury and the pounce, two of Daruguri's abilities) Daruguril's Attacks (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160766) 31, 25, 28, 22, 22, 20 (one miss) Damage: Primary Hand: (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160767) 23, 20, 26 Off Hand: (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160768) 22, 21 Total Damage from Daruguril: 112 Ashariana uses Acid Orb from her staff. Touch Attack: 17 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160772) SR: 25 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160775) Damage: 48 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160778) I'm not sure... but I think that means you die. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 09:05 PM | *hits demonfey upside the head with a rolled up newspaper* you forgot me. I was traveling at the same time you were. And I think we're nuetral unless provoked. 1. Sorry 2. We are. We just want to get there at some point, though. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 09:16 PM | How about a GM posts and tells me that you have the right to show up like that? For now, I'll just go with it. But if the GMs say otherwise, then thats what they say. The minotaur takes action. Charging foreward at the new arrival. It's head lowered it brings it's horns at her in a goring slam. Sargatanas hisses at the symbol and turns. Walking away from the holy symbol and it's holder. He growls and hisses a few words back to his fellows. "Slaughter her." Kanosic gazes upon the cleric and pulls a bow from his back. Sending an arrow at her chest with a quick pull. Meanwhile, the undead army begins it's approach. Minotaur attack: 21 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160757) (hit) Damage: 29 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160758) Sargatanas retreats from the turning (and only him, as there are only 2 HD worth of undead left after him). Kanosic's Attack: 29 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160759) Damage: 11 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160760) Thats it for my turn, total damage done: 40 Don't you have to make a save for the minotaur, then (turning)? Just calculated total damage from both Sargatanas and Ashariana. Since most of the attacks were from either undead out of the turning range or the living, that damage is 181 points from those sources. With the Minotaur, that's 200 points of damage. Checking Sil's character, she has 148. I just did this to help out the GMs. |
| Abicus Acton10-03-05, 09:21 PM | Don't you have to make a save for the minotaur, then (turning)? Just calculated total damage from both Sargatanas and Ashariana. Since most of the attacks were from either undead out of the turning range or the living, that damage is 181 points from those sources. With the Minotaur, that's 200 points of damage. Checking Sil's character, she has 148. I just did this to help out the GMs. You do not make a save for turning undead. Although, Silmarien was not very specific on which undead she was targeting with the turning attempt. |
| Ashariana10-03-05, 09:26 PM | It doesn't really matter. The attacks from Daruguril and my staff are enough to kill him alone. If you want to like... take everything into account, the negative levels would also drop him more. So any way you look at it... hes kinda dead. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 09:30 PM | Yeah...I just PMed him to tell him that so there weren't any surprises. |
| Orcy The Green Wonder10-03-05, 09:59 PM | Looks legit to Orcy... unless Silmawhatsit has some extra spells active on her. Then the question of how she could have prepared during the one round of combat that has already passed. |
| gabrion10-03-05, 10:00 PM | Boy, I hope they don't kill us like that when we show up.... :) |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 10:10 PM | I think we can appear about now. |
| Orcy The Green Wonder10-03-05, 10:11 PM | I think we can appear about now. Orcy would wait until a GM clears it. |
| jagggar10-03-05, 10:18 PM | I would suggest waiting until A&S are sweeping up rather than while they're probably still on guard. |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 10:18 PM | I am, I just said that because, at this point, we could just say "a minute or two later, a trio of people float out of the clouds, evidently using some spell (airwalk) to get here. They are holding a white flag, and one is yelling something about tending to the wounded" or something like that. @jagggar: deal. |
| Solmund10-03-05, 10:23 PM | I still need a gm's approval on my character..... |
| Demonfey10-03-05, 10:24 PM | As I said, explain how you use a courtblade without the exotic weapon proficiency or anything making it a martial weapon, then approval. |
| premier66610-03-05, 10:27 PM | Ashariana smirks at the newcomer. Why DID she want to die so much? She inclined her head toward her and Daruguril took off at a run. Leaping into the air he twirled his two bladed sword above his head. Slashing at the drow with a lion's fury. Ashariana held up her staff. Pointing it toward the woman she sent another greenish blast flying from the staff toward her. This would be a quick end for such a minor annoyance. (using Lions Fury and the pounce, two of Daruguri's abilities) Daruguril's Attacks (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160766) 31, 25, 28, 22, 22, 20 (one miss) Damage: Primary Hand: (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160767) 23, 20, 26 Off Hand: (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160768) 22, 21 Total Damage from Daruguril: 112 Ashariana uses Acid Orb from her staff. Touch Attack: 17 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160772) SR: 25 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160775) Damage: 48 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=160778) I'm not sure... but I think that means you die. Ashariana, just for that I hate you. I hate you so much. Could'nt you kill me? thats mean, very mean. I got into ll this trouble making this char just to see another one using my favorite combo... graaaaaarr... I'm gona kill myself in the alley over there and I'll be right back... AND, Above all that, you misspell his name.... He is DRAUGURIL, not Daruguril! At least say his name rigth!!! (Warning, warning, The above post is to be read with humor. After all, above all else, I lose too many times to get angry with it...) |
| Orcy The Green Wonder10-03-05, 10:32 PM | Orcy would think of it this way... at least she didn't disarm you. Orcy has to hand it to her... alright, thats enough outta Orcy... |
| Solmund10-03-05, 10:40 PM | Orcy would think of it this way... at least she didn't disarm you. Orcy has to hand it to her... alright, thats enough outta Orcy... it's attack of the bad puns! :D |
| premier66610-03-05, 10:41 PM | Orcy would think of it this way... at least she didn't disarm you. Orcy has to hand it to her... alright, thats enough outta Orcy... ... |
| jagggar10-03-05, 11:38 PM | Wilds, consider yourself and your dragon buddy flying over Sargatanas' undead (1000 ft away from gate). This is just in case it still matters. |
| Wilds10-04-05, 12:09 AM | Uhhhhhh ok? I had Incarin and Onyx maybe 30ish ft behind Ashariana. But ill go where ever u say |
| jagggar10-04-05, 12:22 AM | Uhhhhhh ok???? I had Incarin and Onyx maybe 30ish ft behind Ashariana. But ill go where ever u say I must've missed that in this mess we call a topic. I had thought you were still flying back from SF. In that case you're where you say you are. You're 30ish ft behind Ashariana then. |
| Wilds10-04-05, 01:43 AM | i posted this before too, but copied it so its easier to find Incarin and Onyx both ready actions to retaliate if any one attacks them. They will also engage combat if the tides turn against Ashariana. Until then they will watch. thats my chars move thingys. just so teh dms know, cause pming is going to be chaotic really soon. No cheating off of what my chars are doing pls. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 03:59 AM | *grins* @bad guyz Nice round of damage! Well done. But, dead - not so fast! 1. First, I need a comment about my Turn Undead attempt. (I've just re-read the posts, if there's more than one undead around, more than Sargantanas s/be affected). 2. Second, how I got there is legit. I carefully prepared this with the GMs. I ain't declaring anything, other than what you saw *smiles*. 3. Holy Aura effects post pending,.... but..... five I gotta spell running, called "Fortunate Fate"...I'll be back shortly. regards stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 04:34 AM | wait. I forgot something - both assailants can't move and take a full round action. And also, after the surprise initiative, what's next? I want a map, of people's locations in five feet squares. And, Premier gets the benefit of the Holy Aura, so he's out of Dominate Person. So he should be free to act. stav |
| Wilds10-04-05, 11:42 AM | Hes been thralled, dominate isnt necassary anymore. So dominate does not affect him, but hes still a thrall. hehe, spelling turning |
| Orcy The Green Wonder10-04-05, 12:18 PM | wait. I forgot something - both assailants can't move and take a full round action. And also, after the surprise initiative, what's next? I want a map, of people's locations in five feet squares. And, Premier gets the benefit of the Holy Aura, so he's out of Dominate Person. So he should be free to act. stav Alright lets see if Orcy can clear some of this up. Sargatanas effectively has about 21-23 hit dice for turning attempts. Meaning your turning of 23 will only turn him (there isn't any undead with 2 hd in the area of your turn). Premier is more than 20ft away. So your holy aura has no effect on him either. It technically isn't a suprise round because you appeared in the middle of combat. So they were still ready to fight and all that. Their full round actions are legal because of that. Also, orcy doesn't think Holy aura can work on someone else unless you cast in with them around. So unless you use it on the turn you appear (which instead you used turning) it isn't going to do anything. Personally, Orcy is wondering about the three round of preperation time you seem to have had. (Holy word, Fortunate Fate (never heard of it) and teleportation). |
| Demonfey10-04-05, 12:25 PM | Now that you mention it, Orcy, I'd like to know where that's from, so I can find out if its something I'd like to use. |
| Orcy The Green Wonder10-04-05, 12:29 PM | Orcy believes Sargatanas had desecrate active as well now that he thinks about it. Which would have given Sil's turn check a -3, meaning he couldn't have turned him after all... he thinks... And yes, orcy would like to know where the spell is from as well... and what it does. |
| Ashariana10-04-05, 12:43 PM | Fortunate fate... teleportation... holy aura... You had three rounds to prepare during our one round of fighting? How did you do that... I mean... thats just really unfair to us. I find it strange that even the character you have was created for this specific fight. It has a lot of undead fighting gear and stuff to break enchantments. Not a thing about this whole situation seems fair. Even less considering your chracter has NEVER met any of us, or that your character has NEVER posted anywhere or been in character (since the begining of the games) to even hear of us. This whole thing just seems like "I want to be the hero." I'm sorry if this sounds mean, but its just wrong... |
| gabrion10-04-05, 12:44 PM | And yes, orcy would like to know where the spell is from as well... and what it does. I'm pretty sure that spell is from MoF. It's a 7th level (cleric) spell that acts as a heal spell if the character would be killed from damage. Actually I'm quite sure that's what it does because I had a character who used to use it all the time. Duration is 10 min/lvl. |
| Demonfey10-04-05, 12:59 PM | Oh. I'll definitely take that one if I ever make a cleric, that's for sure... Thanks for the explanation on where, Gabrion. |
| Wilds10-04-05, 01:27 PM | Then we will just have to make sure that damage isnt the killer in this case. How does this work? a char can pop in and be like "guess what, im ready for a fight that just started" that doesnt work Where would i be in the initiatrive order if i join in? the universe seems to dislike the forces of anti-guards |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 01:49 PM | Hey, I'm fine with all of them spells except the fate one! I say we just remove that fate spell from our metagaming friend. Then his character made specifically to fight mine will be good and dead and it won't matter that he MADE the character just to fight me. |
| Wilds10-04-05, 03:09 PM | It says as if the char would die. Well in that time you can make it an undead, thus having heal destroy it. :) go mtg stacking crap |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 04:03 PM | Since he came in in the middle of the fight, Skartog and Alanya get their turns before he does I think. So whats happening? Jagggar you have a view on any of this stuff? Do all of silmarien's spells stay on him? From what I get, Ashariana's thrall combined with Ashariana beat the hell out of silimna, silimna doesn't die but rather just gets a heal spell cast. Then its Skartog and Alanya's turn since Silimna showed up in the middle of the fight, not on some suprise round. |
| Solmund10-04-05, 04:04 PM | sargantas: then that'd be going against the rules that were setup a while ago: you can use any dnd books except some material from UA, that's what I recall the rule being, otherwise people could say that your character is too powerful or you have too many followers/undead slaves. :P same thing with my psionic character and his thrall chain. It's esentally the same as your vampire master chain, except a class instead of a template. But sil does have a history of metagaming. anyone who has been here since the original war was started last year will know that.... |
| Demonfey10-04-05, 04:09 PM | Well, some UA stuff and vow of poverty... |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 04:10 PM | sargantas: then that'd be going against the rules that were setup a while ago: you can use any dnd books except some material from UA, that's what I recall the rule being, otherwise people could say that your character is too powerful or you have too many followers/undead slaves. :P same thing with my psionic character and his thrall chain. It's esentally the same as your vampire master chain, except a class instead of a template. But sil does have a history of metagaming. anyone who has been here since the original war was started last year will know that.... What are you talking about? I'm not arguing with the spells hes using. I'm sayin that the fact he has three spells (that we know about) on him. This is the first round of combat. HOW did he cast three spells on himself in one round? One of those being teleport, another being holy aura, and the last being that fortunate fate thing. So thats three rounds of prep time while we're still in the middle of round one. |
| jagggar10-04-05, 04:46 PM | All combat stops now. There will be no further actions until we have some clarifications. Who has completed actions after the suprise round? Who was the last character to do an action before Silimna showed up? I've gone through the topic and collected the initiative order. Skartog 20 Silimna 19* Minotaur 17 Alanya 15 Sargatanas 15 Incarin 9 Onyx 9 Kanosic 8 Ashariana 7 *Silimna is a new combatant and probably shouldn't roll initiative. I talked to Sssargoth and he said that Silimna does have fortunate fate cast (as well as holy aura and detect undead). Since he is the one that allowed her into combat, I am not going to argue with his ruling. (I also don't want to turn this into some sort of Good GM, Bad GM thing.) While not cleared with the other GMs, I present another option: Everything done in this topic is undone. No one's dead or dominated or anything else. We wait for Arshes to join us again and I'll help him quickly complete the guard. Then we start this whole silly mess all over again, taking it step by step and making sure to get in every check due. I would also post my outline of rules for learning of and joining battles in Metathread and those would be used to decide when new combatants would enter. |
| premier66610-04-05, 04:47 PM | What are you talking about? I'm not arguing with the spells hes using. I'm sayin that the fact he has three spells (that we know about) on him. This is the first round of combat. HOW did he cast three spells on himself in one round? One of those being teleport, another being holy aura, and the last being that fortunate fate thing. So thats three rounds of prep time while we're still in the middle of round one. I dont get it. Why are you complaining. If the GMs have alowed, then Sil explained all to them. If they choose to accept the explanation, then, he is acording to the rules. There is no arguing in that point. |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 04:54 PM | All combat stops now. There will be no further actions until we have some clarifications. Who has completed actions after the suprise round? Who was the last character to do an action before Silimna showed up? I've gone through the topic and collected the initiative order. Skartog 20 Silimna 19* Minotaur 17 Alanya 15 Sargatanas 15 Incarin 9 Onyx 9 Kanosic 8 Ashariana 7 *Silimna is a new combatant and probably shouldn't roll initiative. I talked to Sssargoth and he said that Silimna does have fortunate fate cast (as well as holy aura and detect undead). Since he is the one that allowed her into combat, I am not going to argue with his ruling. (I also don't want to turn this into some sort of Good GM, Bad GM thing.) While not cleared with the other GMs, I present another option: Everything done in this topic is undone. No one's dead or dominated or anything else. We wait for Arshes to join us again and I'll help him quickly complete the guard. Then we start this whole silly mess all over again, taking it step by step and making sure to get in every check due. I would also post my outline of rules for learning of and joining battles in Metathread and those would be used to decide when new combatants would enter. Alanya was the last person to act before silimna showed up. The minotaur had delayed his action. So when Silimna showed up, he took action. Sargatanas was turned, so he turned and headed away as appropriate for the rules, I believe turning only has a range of 60ft, which means all the undead are still under the effects of desecration (mine has a range of 90ft because of my PrC). After silimna appeared, I took my action (moving 60ft away). The minotaur as I said took his delayed action. Kanosic acted, taking a shot at Silimna, and Ashariana attacked too. So after silimna appeared in the middle of the initiative order, everyone who hadn't acted yet, took their actions. It isn't really a suprise round since all of us are still in 'combat mode.' |
| gabrion10-04-05, 04:54 PM | If Ashariana acted before Sargatanas, then she would have *killed* Sils character, triggering the heal spell, and Sargatanas would have done damage after that. Either way, the Fortunate Fate was written with the 3.0 version of Heal in mind (thinking it would restore full HP), but that is not the case. If Ashariana did 160 points of damage and the heal spell was triggered, it would only heal 150 of that. Therefore 148 (starting HP)-160 (Ashariana's dmg)+150 (heal)-40 (Sargatanas' dmg)=98 HP (current). Edit: The second part of this was probably not helpful and thus has been removed. |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 04:57 PM | Personally I think we should just rewind to Zik's death. Everything up to that was good. Then Silimna appeared from nowhere with four rounds of prep time for one round of battle. THAT just doesn't make sense. |
| Demonfey10-04-05, 04:59 PM | Before Sil did that, I thought the fight was, more or less, over. A couple hours after the fighting is completely over should work. EDIT: sorry, posted this while Sargatanas was posting his, as a response to Gabrion's comment and to just get this to work without bad things happening. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 05:38 PM | tell ya what. As an act of goodwill, I don't mind taking all that damage, as long as you let the Fortunate Fate thing go forwards. My next action depends on what the decision about Initiative is. please advise, regards stav |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 05:44 PM | tell ya what. As an act of goodwill, I don't mind taking all that damage, as long as you let the Fortunate Fate thing go forwards. My next action depends on what the decision about Initiative is. please advise, regards stav I don't really see why you should even BE here other than that a GM said you can suddenly appear from the dust of time and space. But, if you are going to take all of the damage... then... lets see. Damage: 200 total, 148 HP, -20 from the 4 negative levels. Healing for 150... That puts your current hit points at 78, and it would be Alanya and Skartog's turn. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 05:52 PM | Alright lets see if Orcy can clear some of this up. Sargatanas effectively has about 21-23 hit dice for turning attempts. Meaning your turning of 23 will only turn him (there isn't any undead with 2 hd in the area of your turn). Premier is more than 20ft away. So your holy aura has no effect on him either. It technically isn't a suprise round because you appeared in the middle of combat. So they were still ready to fight and all that. Their full round actions are legal because of that. Also, orcy doesn't think Holy aura can work on someone else unless you cast in with them around. So unless you use it on the turn you appear (which instead you used turning) it isn't going to do anything. Personally, Orcy is wondering about the three round of preperation time you seem to have had. (Holy word, Fortunate Fate (never heard of it) and teleportation). thanx. Some quick points: I did request a person map before teleporting in. About Holy Aura - the spell description is unclear about that. If I didn't get the Surprise, I'd have thought I came in on 19 initiative. and, how do you manage a surprise round (from a newcomer) in the middle of a normal initiative. It's an unusual situation for that point of view. thanx stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 05:56 PM | I don't really see why you should even BE here other than that a GM said you can suddenly appear from the dust of time and space. But, if you are going to take all of the damage... then... lets see well....players don't know all things. If you were in a melee situation and a newcomer teleported in, you wouldn't know the hows and why's of it, unless it was a bud of yours and you pre-planned it. This situation's a bit different. But, I have hinted to about it, first (please read Enclave of Winter Leaf) and it was mapped with DMs. My PCs come from covert ops. thanx stav @DMs If I can claim my 19 initiative, I'm happy to take 200 hp of damage. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 06:03 PM | Damage: 200 total, 148 HP, -20 from the 4 negative levels. Healing for 150...That puts your current hit points at 78, and it would be Alanya and Skartog's turn. The Healing kicks in @-10 HP, first up, not more neg than that. Quick question, could someone clarify why no saves for Level Loss and why no save for Lightning Damage. Also, if Ashariana had to move, no full round attack possy. regards stav |
| Demonfey10-04-05, 06:03 PM | thanx. Some quick points: I did request a person map before teleporting in. About Holy Aura - the spell description is unclear about that. If I didn't get the Surprise, I'd have thought I came in on 19 initiative. and, how do you manage a surprise round (from a newcomer) in the middle of a normal initiative. It's an unusual situation for that point of view. thanx stav I think the whole issue is that this is all wierd. This is the first fight without the rules of the arena, making things stranger to work with. On guards, I just had an idea: use the Stormhand soldier templates as the basic idea. It should work for general use. |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 06:06 PM | well....players don't know all things. If you were in a melee situation and a newcomer teleported in, you wouldn't know the hows and why's of it, unless it was a bud of yours and you pre-planned it. This situation's a bit different. But, I have hinted to about it, first (please read Enclave of Winter Leaf) and it was mapped with DMs. My PCs come from covert ops. thanx stav @DMs If I can claim my 19 initiative, I'm happy to take 200 hp of damage. Hey hey, now yer gettin greedy. We already agreed on you taking the damage for the spell going off ;). Now... if I can clear things up. A spell's targets are listed for when the spell is cast. In this case, the spell causes a burst around you of 20ft. That burst gives the people in the area the effects of holy aura. You didn't get the suprise, but initiative 19 had already passed. So effectively its as if you delayed (placing your initiative between Alanya's and Sargatanas' own initiatives (both on 15). There isn't really a suprise round once combat has started. Usually if someone appeared in the middle of a round, that person would then have their initiative put as one higher than the highest initiative. But wouldn't act until that time came around. I think... but just slappin ya where ya poped in should work the best. For the post that poped up while I was typing this. The Atropal scion aura treats you as having a negative level (when you are in their aura) thus no save. There was no lighnting. Ashariana used an orb of acid. The damage just doesn't disappear. So even if the healing kicks in at -10, you'd take the rest while you healed, effectively giving the same result. Now, I gotta get goin, I'll be back later. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 06:29 PM | Hey hey, now yer gettin greedy. We already agreed on you taking the damage for the spell going off I posted a suggestion, DMs have gotta say yea or nay. :) I read the initiative rules a bit different, though, to you, about combining surprise+normal. that person would then have their initiative put as one higher than the highest initiative. But wouldn't act until that time came around. I think an incoming newbie can surprise. Also I imagined that either I got the 19, incoming or the surprise round at 19, then the initiative. But, going your way, without surprise, I shouldn't be here yet, and I should go first, next round. @DMs Also, my priority was Premier666. I placed myself so that he could benefit from any Aura things. This is my rescue effort. :) So, that should put 'im within 20ft of me (in fact, touching distance). but just slappin ya where ya poped in should work the best. go for it! :) also, about that antropal thingy, where is it in relation to premier? stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-04-05, 06:40 PM | apologies everyone, last post of rules stuff, then I defer to DMs. :) A spell's targets are listed for when the spell is cast. In this case, the spell causes a burst around you of 20ft It's unclear, in my realm of assumptions on this point. It's a burst effect, and continuous. It actually doesn't specify targets in the spell, but an area effect. The tension in the write-up is towards the end of the spell. It can be read two ways (see point just prior to comments about Possessed things, at end of spell). gotta go too. regards stav |
| Solmund10-04-05, 07:22 PM | the atral scion is extremly broken for something that's only a cr11. |
| Sargatanas10-04-05, 07:50 PM | apologies everyone, last post of rules stuff, then I defer to DMs. :) It's unclear, in my realm of assumptions on this point. It's a burst effect, and continuous. It actually doesn't specify targets in the spell, but an area effect. The tension in the write-up is towards the end of the spell. It can be read two ways (see point just prior to comments about Possessed things, at end of spell). gotta go too. regards stav It doesn't specify targets? I quote (from the spell info).... "Targets: One creature/level in a 20-ft.-radius burst centered on you Flipping back a few pages to the "aiming a spell" section in the PHB... It says that a burst extends out from it's cetral point, yadda yadda... doesn't really tell us much there. BUT! "An emanation spell functions like a burst spell, except that the effect continutes to radiate from the point of origin for the duration of the spell." From that, it's obvious that a burst is once, and effects the people in it's range. So, your burst spell does not effect anybody but the people there when you cast it, which would be... you. I guess its up to the DMs now... but I will say again i don't think you should even be here. |
| Wilds10-04-05, 07:56 PM | :D Advance the undead army :D |
| Master_of_Flames10-04-05, 08:04 PM | Am I too late to join the fray with my small unit? |
| Orcy The Green Wonder10-04-05, 08:05 PM | Am I too late to join the fray with my small unit? This is a very dangerous question to ask with all the high tensions about a single person just appearing. Orcy wouldn't want to see an entire unit showing up... |
| Master_of_Flames10-04-05, 08:12 PM | well, it's not like I have hundreds and hundreds of men, only about 80 something warforged warlocks. (working on an eldritch warlock ^_^) |
| Zombomaniac10-04-05, 08:17 PM | well, it's not like I have hundreds and hundreds of men, only about 80 something warforged warlocks. (working on an eldritch warlock ^_^) If I were you i would save this for later as things are already way to hecktic. I think the only people that should even think of being here right now are Those fighting and DF's group who will show up after all the fighting. |
| jagggar10-04-05, 08:33 PM | There are going to be no more new combatants until we have the current combatants worked out. And I think I'm just going to say no because this encounter is so confusing all ready. All right everyone, we're going to try something new and exciting! I've got this shiney blue book here, and on page 24 it has this section called "Newcomers Are Aware" under the heading "New Combatants". I believe Zik had just been killed. Now I question as follows: What does Sargatanas do if anything? What does Incarin do if anything? What does Onyx do if anything? What does Kanosic do if anything? What does Ashariana do if anything? Does the Minotaur stop delaying at any point? |
| Zombomaniac10-04-05, 08:41 PM | There are going to be no more new combatants until we have the current combatants worked out. And I think I'm just going to say no because this encounter is so confusing all ready. All right everyone, we're going to try something new and exciting! I've got this book here, and on page 24 it has this section called "Newcomers Are Aware" under the heading "New Combatants". I believe Zik had just been killed. Now I question as follows: What does Sargatanas do if anything? What does Incarin do if anything? What does Onyx do if anything? What does Kanosic do if anything? What does Ashariana do if anything? does this mean we are starting over in Sil's battle so as to fix all this? :confused: |
| Wilds10-04-05, 10:30 PM | Zik was a good guy right? In that case Incarin and Onyx just watch, waiting to see how to battle goes. If the tides turn against the undead and ashairna then they will join, or if they are attacked |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 12:46 AM | There are going to be no more new combatants until we have the current combatants worked out. And I think I'm just going to say no because this encounter is so confusing all ready. All right everyone, we're going to try something new and exciting! I've got this shiney blue book here, and on page 24 it has this section called "Newcomers Are Aware" under the heading "New Combatants". I believe Zik had just been killed. Now I question as follows: What does Sargatanas do if anything? What does Incarin do if anything? What does Onyx do if anything? What does Kanosic do if anything? What does Ashariana do if anything? Does the Minotaur stop delaying at any point? Sargatanas and the atropals would head inside after the battle. Effectively killing the majority of the guards. Kanosic would throw the corpse of Zik down to the Minotaur who would carry it into the guild. Of course, that would leave us wide open for the sudden appearance of someone who didn't exist until they suddenly wanted to save the day. |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 01:00 AM | A question suddenly arises in my mind. HOW did Silimna cast teleport? It isn't a cleric spell... On top of that... is the character even finished for approval... I know it was approved, but it doesn't seem to have everything completed. |
| jagggar10-05-05, 01:05 AM | It's from the Portal domain. I'll get on that more tomorrow since I don't think I can stay awake much longer. And since we're talking about the time of rounds here, you couldn't've gotten more than 60 feet away. |
| Demonfey10-05-05, 01:07 AM | Sorry, okay! I checked over Sil's character because he wanted to join the fight and so, in cases like this, I am asked to put the combatant PCs to the front of the line. Also, if you mean spells, you have to remember that clerics basically have access to any spells that are listed as cleric spells, so I figured a list would be wasteful. If you have issues with what was approved, take it up with me, and leave it off the boards. Got it, Sargatanas? Spells, okay, items, okay, character approval, POINT IT OUT TO ME. I'M THE ONE THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 01:07 AM | It's from the Portal domain. I'll get on that more tomorrow since I don't think I can stay awake much longer. And since we're talking about the time of rounds here, you couldn't've gotten more than 60 feet away. Wish you would just not allow him to suddenly appear. That would save us all a whole lot of headaches. I'm quite annoyed that someone can just make a character to suddenly appear and take away the hard work and planning I've done. |
| jagggar10-05-05, 01:13 AM | Wish you would just not allow him to suddenly appear. That would save us all a whole lot of headaches. I'm quite annoyed that someone can just make a character to suddenly appear and take away the hard work and planning I've done. I didn't do that, I only decided I'm not going to try to overule Sssargoth about that without his permission. But before you get too uppity towards him about it, he was also the one who set the 24 hour limit so you could continue the battle. |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 01:15 AM | I didn't do that, I only decided I'm not going to try to overule Sssargoth about that without his permission. But before you get too uppity towards him about it, he was also the one who set the 24 hour limit so you could continue the battle. Don't you need 2/3 of the GMs to agree on something before it can be allowed? |
| Demonfey10-05-05, 01:19 AM | Don't you need 2/3 of the GMs to agree on something before it can be allowed? Out of curiosity, did you get 2/3 of the GMs to approve your attack before you started? |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 01:22 AM | Out of curiosity, did you get 2/3 of the GMs to approve your attack before you started? No, why would I? I'm not asking to appear in the middle of combat having just made a character... I'm sure you would be a bit angry if you were in my position too. You plan out an attack, you work things out and the plan goes almost flawlessly. Then, someone creates a character who is focused on fighting you as if they've been made specifically for it appears out of nowhere to save the day. Tell me that wouldn't bother you. |
| jagggar10-05-05, 01:30 AM | Could I request that this discussion be continued in meta-thread? It gets tedious going back through the pages of this stuff to find things pertaining directly to the situation at hand (the combat). |
| Demonfey10-05-05, 01:32 AM | No, why would I? I'm not asking to appear in the middle of combat having just made a character... I'm sure you would be a bit angry if you were in my position too. You plan out an attack, you work things out and the plan goes almost flawlessly. Then, someone creates a character who is focused on fighting you as if they've been made specifically for it appears out of nowhere to save the day. Tell me that wouldn't bother you. The why would be to allow them the time to plan for things like this, figure some alternative guard stat ideas like using the stormhand soldiers as a basis for all the soldiers, figure out times when the three of them can be on, and to get a list of who wants to be involved, how, and to then (hopefully) not have so much debate arise. Yes, I'd be angry in your position. But then again, I DID try to give an alternative for Sil. Also, do you have any issues with the finishing touches to Sil's character that you would like to PM me, seeing as I'm the Character DM? Edit: sorry, jagggar. I was posting this while you were posting yours. I'll move to the metathread. |
| Wilds10-05-05, 01:55 AM | "Elves.... allows feeling the need to butt in and make sure things go the way they want it." "Elves? the pointy eared ones? They taste good?" "Not as far as I know, too stringy or something along those lines." "When we fight?" "Soon, soon, once the mistress is done having fun" |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-05-05, 06:03 AM | Yes, I'd be angry in your position. Don't be. I wouldn't as long as I felt the PC had gone thru the correct channels. Here's the discussion at Metathread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=7423971&postcount=154) As noted, a covert surveillance group is going to do just what I did. The idea was not to 'spoil' anyone's planning but to introduce a new set of factors. Mostly, save a friend's ass. That's D&D. It's not supposed to be predictable. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-05-05, 06:20 AM | It doesn't specify targets? I quote (from the spell info).... "Targets: One creature/level in a 20-ft.-radius burst centered on you apologies. Flipping back a few pages to the "aiming a spell" section in the PHB... It says that a burst extends out from it's cetral point, yadda yadda... doesn't really tell us much there. BUT! "An emanation spell functions like a burst spell, except that the effect continutes to radiate from the point of origin for the duration of the spell." From that, it's obvious that a burst is once, and effects the people in it's range. So, your burst spell does not effect anybody but the people there when you cast it, which would be... you. I guess its up to the DMs now... but I will say again i don't think you should even be here. thanx for the data, appreciated. we should also take it to metathread, although, I don't really care much, either way. My two cents worth is that because PHB says a mind-affecting spell that was running when you cast holy aura kicks in again when aura ends, ergo, the reverse should apply - when you move away from your recipients, they lose the benefits, and then gain them again, when you move into spell range. So, I assume a different set of stuff, even after reading the above. Normal. People make different assumptions about rules. The rules are less concrete, in places, than is ideal. Again, it's DM turf, and I'm happy to abide by their ruling. stav |
| Demonfey10-05-05, 08:56 AM | Sil, this conversation has been moved to the metathread. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-05-05, 09:02 AM | Don't be. I wouldn't as long as I felt the PC had gone thru the correct channels. Here's the discussion at Metathread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=7423971&postcount=154) As noted, a covert surveillance group is going to do just what I did. The idea was not to 'spoil' anyone's planning but to introduce a new set of factors. Mostly, save a friend's ass. That's D&D. It's not supposed to be predictable. stav ta, DF :) (see URL in my post, two up). regards stav |
| Ashariana10-05-05, 12:54 PM | There are going to be no more new combatants until we have the current combatants worked out. And I think I'm just going to say no because this encounter is so confusing all ready. All right everyone, we're going to try something new and exciting! I've got this shiney blue book here, and on page 24 it has this section called "Newcomers Are Aware" under the heading "New Combatants". I believe Zik had just been killed. Now I question as follows: What does Sargatanas do if anything? What does Incarin do if anything? What does Onyx do if anything? What does Kanosic do if anything? What does Ashariana do if anything? Does the Minotaur stop delaying at any point? Ashariana, Skartog, and her new Thrall would all follow sargatanas at a distance to stay just outside the Atropal scion's range. But uh... are we like, rewinding or something? Can't we just rewind Silimna right out of the picture? I mean.. thats the most questionable part of any of this. |
| jagggar10-05-05, 01:17 PM | Well, my original intent was to finish up the previous round before Silimna could enter at the top of the following round as she should have. (Which would have ment Skartog would have gone first after she appeared.) Of course, now that Silimna is once again approval pending, and combat is effectively over... |
| Wilds10-05-05, 03:10 PM | over? i thought the DMs put it on hold? |
| Ashariana10-05-05, 03:36 PM | Well, my original intent was to finish up the previous round before Silimna could enter at the top of the following round as she should have. (Which would have ment Skartog would have gone first after she appeared.) Of course, now that Silimna is once again approval pending, and combat is effectively over... So.. should we just continue on and ignore the whole Silimna incident? If so... I believe we were killing off all the guards in a fell swoop with Sargatanas' atropal scions. Who should kill everything uhm... up to level 4? |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 03:50 PM | So.. should we just continue on and ignore the whole Silimna incident? If so... I believe we were killing off all the guards in a fell swoop with Sargatanas' atropal scions. Who should kill everything uhm... up to level 4? Yes, death slaughter all that fun stuff. Asuming there were no guards outside, the Atropal Scions would head inside and start floating around masses of troops with their auras. Which would make them die... then rise one minute later as wights. |
| Wilds10-05-05, 05:28 PM | And i thought a shadow dragon would be good for mass killing dang, those apostal scions are ridiculous |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-05-05, 06:15 PM | Well, my original intent was to finish up the previous round before Silimna could enter at the top of the following round as she should have. (Which would have ment Skartog would have gone first after she appeared.) Of course, now that Silimna is once again approval pending, and combat is effectively over... thanx, sounds good. I've spoken/am speaking to DF about it. Happy to help. Also, I sent you an important PM, please reply in kind according to your wOnt. :) regards stav |
| Sargatanas10-05-05, 06:36 PM | So... are we going to continue on? What does Jagggar have to say? Anything? |
| Sargatanas10-07-05, 07:37 PM | HELLLOOOO!!!! Are we ever going to finish this thing!? |
| gabrion10-07-05, 07:57 PM | I was wondering that as well. If Sil's character is ready to go and you guys are effectively done slaughtering the guards, then I say let's get the show on the road! |
| Demonfey10-07-05, 08:06 PM | Sil's not quite ready. |
| gabrion10-07-05, 08:13 PM | Sil's not quite ready. Oh, my bad. |
| Solmund10-07-05, 09:12 PM | *preps his character for the worst* the worst being ashariana casting dominate on each of us. |
| Zombomaniac10-07-05, 10:06 PM | I think this is the only time I have been glad that I dont have any PCs. This way I dont lose them. :D :( (sad because I dont have any PCs(darn your groundings infernal Mother!)). |
| jagggar10-07-05, 10:11 PM | Okay, I will tonight get the numbers for the guards. Might have to wait till after NUMB3RS is off since I've got to go drool over someone's brain. For the mean time, Sar and Ash are wondering around finishing off the guard. Gabrion and Co. can decide if they want the Friendship Brigade (If you'd like to provide me with someother cheesey, good-guy team name, please do.) to show up now, or if they'd feel safer doing it after Stav sends Silimna on her suicide mission. |
| Demonfey10-07-05, 10:18 PM | Hey! Igor's CN. I vote for right now, simply because it might be a while before Sil finishes the alterations. |
| Sssargoth10-07-05, 11:01 PM | Okay, I will tonight get the numbers for the guards. Might have to wait till after NUMB3RS is off since I've got to go drool over someone's brain. I dont see why, Hes terible at math IRL. Hes Mr. Universe in the movie Serenity, btw. |
| jagggar10-07-05, 11:28 PM | I dont see why, Hes terible at math IRL. Hes Mr. Universe in the movie Serenity, btw. Hush, you'll ruin my fantasy. *shudders, then looks at the Illithid Savant class* Hmmm. . . I mean. . . Seen it already. And I wanna go back in time and watch Firefly because I've hit one of those poor pockets of time where entire seasons are kinda too much to afford an- *checks Amazon* Dang it, I really do need to get a job! $30+tax. Wrarh. . . |
| Demonfey10-07-05, 11:37 PM | I've got a friend who downloaded the entire thing onto his laptop. You could do that. And now, for a line I just like: "You guys started a riot because of me? You guys are the greatest..." :D |
| Solmund10-07-05, 11:52 PM | Gabrion and Co. can decide if they want the Friendship Brigade (If you'd like to provide me with someother cheesey, good-guy team name, please do.) to show up now, or if they'd feel safer doing it after Stav sends Silimna on her suicide mission. well, for one, my character is one to try and talk things over (perhaps with a good year of elven moondrop wine and merhaps some mountain food). For another, we still had a while to get to the guard hq, atleast a few hours. |
| Solmund10-07-05, 11:53 PM | Hush, you'll ruin my fantasy. *shudders, then looks at the Illithid Savant class* Hmmm. . . I mean. . . Seen it already. And I wanna go back in time and watch Firefly because I've hit one of those poor pockets of time where entire seasons are kinda too much to afford an- *checks Amazon* Dang it, I really do need to get a job! $30+tax. Wrarh. . . every friday on sci-fo channel. today's epidose was pretty funny. (the captain got double crossed and left with nothing in the middle of a desert.) :D |
| Demonfey10-07-05, 11:57 PM | I know that one, too! The one where it turns out Jayne is worshipped as a hero is also good... |
| Sssargoth10-07-05, 11:58 PM | every friday on sci-fo channel. today's epidose was pretty funny. (the captain got double crossed and left with nothing in the middle of a desert.) :D I just bid on the complete first (and only) season on ebay for $34. Thats the 11 episodes that were aired, and 14 episodes that wernt. :P |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 12:09 AM | If that really has it, then you are very lucky. And before you say anything about it, remember: Ebay. Also, 15 episodes aired. |
| Sssargoth10-08-05, 12:14 AM | Also, 15 episodes aired. I was told 11 aired, maby thats how many didnt air... Never got to see it, unfortunately... :weep: |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 12:15 AM | Don't worry, if you like sci fi, then you'll probably like it alot. Oh, and Orcy's been making construct graft ideas over at the academy. Could some more people check them out? |
| Sargatanas10-08-05, 12:17 AM | Sargatanas walks the halls stopping by a mass of corpses. He kick one of them hard in the side and grunts. "Get up ya bag-o-bones!" He laughs as the soldiers rise from the dead as wights. Turning and heading through the guild's chamgers till he reaches the main room. He takes a seat in the guild leader's throne. He leans back and grins at the vampires who accompany him. He stretches back with another laugh and looks around the chamber with a nod. "Well, that was rather pathetic..." |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-08-05, 12:24 AM | every friday on sci-fo channel. today's epidose was pretty funny. (the captain got double crossed and left with nothing in the middle of a desert.) Since free trade, we get a lot more of your shows over 'ere. But, dunno 'bout yours, our cable's a bit of an eye-glazer-over-rer. A chorus of windchimes tinkles in the aether and gust of crisp, mountain air washes the smell of rotting flesh away. A baritone chorus, with a melodic overlay sounds, distantly in the room Doom, dom, boom, bom; Kin-strife, loyal one Bring home, save from undead hands, free-dom |
| Wilds10-08-05, 12:28 AM | Incarin looks around, death seeping from the halls. "Wow, that was fast." "More like pathetic." "Thats only because you didnt get to kill anything." "So?" "Nevermind, lets go in and greet the new king of the castle." Incarin and Onyx go inside. Walking/floating past the undead. Walking up to the high chair Incarin bows and Oynx lowers his head. "You seem to be far more powerful than what it seems. Congratulations on your conquering of the keep. " Incarin rotates around and Onyx turns his head. "It would seem that you have visitors." |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 12:30 AM | You can hear some arguing in the distance... I told you we shouldn't have turned left at the mountain range! See how long it took us to get here! Felt like it :D |
| Sargatanas10-08-05, 12:32 AM | Since free trade, we get a lot more of your shows over 'ere. But, dunno 'bout yours, our cable's a bit of an eye-glazer-over-rer. A chorus of windchimes tinkles in the aether and gust of crisp, mountain air washes the smell of rotting flesh away. A baritone chorus, with a melodic overlay sounds, distantly in the room Doom, dom, boom, bom; Kin-strife, loyal one Bring home, save from undead hands, free-dom "You gotta wonder where all these songs spring from. These bloody fools just sing away like they're everywhere at once. You'd think they'd be smarter than saying "Hey, I'm here and I'm coming!" Gotta wonder how they can be so dumb. SOLDIERS! READY THYSELVES!" Sargatanas stands from the leader's chair and stretches his rotting muscles as he reaches to Zik's corpse and takes his staff, twirling it a bit and laughing. "Howdy boys, enjoy the show? I expect some stupid elf to appear soon. They like to do that around these parts I hear. So just keep on the guard and be ready, that bloody singing is going to give me a headache." |
| Wilds10-08-05, 12:33 AM | Onyx tilts his head then lies down on the ground. "I better get to fight this time psion." "Talk to the dead one behind us that controls all of the bodies." Pointing behind him. "Though, he might like your breath, draining is rather nice" Growlsss...... "psions......" |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 02:13 AM | Ashariana moves and stands beside Sargatanas, her thrall standing nearby infront of her. Behind her in his usual place lurked the mass of metal, ready to defend his mistress should he need to do so. She yawned at the sounds of the song, apparently quite bored with the constant elven singing. Her hand rested in a small bag at her side apparently playing with something as she leaned against the staff she held in her other hand. "So brother, do you think anybody is going to send help for these poor souls? They died so easily alone. Now, what to do with this place, shall we keep it for ourselves?" |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 02:04 PM | Are the two of you okay with the non-threatening group arriving now? |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 02:32 PM | Are the two of you okay with the non-threatening group arriving now? I don't mind, as long as you don't try to like, leap into combat when Silimna goes on her suicide run. |
| gabrion10-08-05, 03:06 PM | You can hear some arguing in the distance... I told you we shouldn't have turned left at the mountain range! See how long it took us to get here! You hear the smooth voice of a young man responding to the other. "Don't blame me. You were the one guiding me here, remember? I had no idea where we were going. Either way, any hope I had of talking with the Royal Guards seem unlikely now. From the presence of that large undead army a ways back, I would guess the attackers are still around. Let's see what justification they have for such a slaughter." The voice becomes a bit lounder as it enters the outer hall and heads inside. "Be ready both of you, we don't know the nature of the new ruler here and I don't wish to be attacked from the shadows." OOC: Ash, I don't think this little bit of RP should take too long, so we will be in and out before Silimna shows up. I'm sure Sil will hold off until we are done. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 03:40 PM | Ashariana looks toward the approaching group with an innocent smile. She remains leaning on her staff, resting it against the center of her chest. Her stance intended to show off her curves, just in case she had to do some quick talking, men were always easier to convince that way. "Why... I believe we have visitors already. How convinient... I wonder if they're here to start trouble... Either way, I doubt it truely matters at this point." |
| Master_of_Flames10-08-05, 03:56 PM | boy, loud people. sure I can't join in? |
| Solmund10-08-05, 04:02 PM | You hear the smooth voice of a young man responding to the other. "Don't blame me. You were the one guiding me here, remember? I had no idea where we were going. Either way, any hope I had of talking with the Royal Guards seem unlikely now. From the presence of that large undead army a ways back, I would guess the attackers are still around. Let's see what justification they have for such a slaughter." The voice becomes a bit lounder as it enters the outer hall and heads inside. "Be ready both of you, we don't know the nature of the new ruler here and I don't wish to be attacked from the shadows." Then shut up and stop trying to announce yourself to everyone. I do feel sorry for that human bandit back there though, it was a bit overkill to rip out his intestines and hang him with them. Another voice, elven by the accent, is heard with the other two. :D Couldn't help it, but it seemed to be something Igor would do. |
| gabrion10-08-05, 04:16 PM | Then shut up and stop trying to announce yourself to everyone. I do feel sorry for that human bandit back there though, it was a bit overkill to rip out his intestines and hang him with them. Another voice, elven by the accent, is heard with the other two. "Well I don't think we're trying to avoid notice, I just don't want to..." Just then the three emerge from the hallway into the throne room (or wherever ya'll are). Taking a quick glance at them you see a darked haired handsome human carrying two large bows dressed in green and brown forest garb, a man with mismatched limbs and sugical scars who looks like he was once human, and a sharp-eyed gray elf carrying a courtblade. Noticing the striking beautiful yet sinister sorceres, they pause, and the one who sounded like a young boy (although now you see he is in his mid-twenties) finishes what he was saying. "...be taken by suprise." Looking captivated by the woman in front of him, it's clear that suprise came in a different form than he expected. Quickly recovering his composure, he speaks more firmly, "My name is Striker and I come in peace to visit the Royal Gaurds. I see that they have been destroyed and I would guess you were behind the attack. Can you tell me why such meaningless slaughter had to take place here?" |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 04:49 PM | Ashariana smiles sweetly at Striker. She looks him over and glances to the others that have just arrived. Looking across the undead troops within the room and the corpse of Zik lying at Sargatanas' feet. She shrugs with a sigh and makes a 'pouty face' before speaking. "Well, you see I never wanted this to turn into such a burtal slaughter. I wanted them to peacefully turn over these halls to us, but Zik just wanted a fight. Flinging spells around like he was... we felt a little threatened. When Xen told us that he didn't want to just turn this place over... well... Sargatanas thought he meant to attack me. To clear things up... the whole reason I came here was to help the people. The guard have done nothing to defend the people. They've just sat back and started a war, thats not in the peoples best interest now is it? I just wanted to make sure that a group of war hungry people weren't in control of this particular land. I'm sure you understand not wanting to live in a land with such bloodthirsty individuals as 'guards' who can do what they wish claiming it to be the law!" Ashariana looks at Striker with a sweet smile, her eyes somewhat sad. It appeared she didn't actually enjoy the battle, that she was sorry for having to kill so many for her purpose. |
| gabrion10-08-05, 05:07 PM | Ashariana smiles sweetly at Striker. She looks him over and glances to the others that have just arrived. Looking across the undead troops within the room and the corpse of Zik lying at Sargatanas' feet. She shrugs with a sigh and makes a 'pouty face' before speaking. "Well, you see I never wanted this to turn into such a burtal slaughter. I wanted them to peacefully turn over these halls to us, but Zik just wanted a fight. Flinging spells around like he was... we felt a little threatened. When Xen told us that he didn't want to just turn this place over... well... Sargatanas thought he meant to attack me. To clear things up... the whole reason I came here was to help the people. The guard have done nothing to defend the people. They've just sat back and started a war, thats not in the peoples best interest now is it? I just wanted to make sure that a group of war hungry people weren't in control of this particular land. I'm sure you understand not wanting to live in a land with such bloodthirsty individuals as 'guards' who can do what they wish claiming it to be the law!" Ashariana looks at Striker with a sweet smile, her eyes somewhat sad. It appeared she didn't actually enjoy the battle, that she was sorry for having to kill so many for her purpose. Striker thinks about the lady's words for a moment. Although she seems sincere enough, and even looks troubled by the things that went on here, Striker doesn't find her words compelling. "So you justify your presence here in the first place by saying that you would do a better job of running an institution such as the Royal Guards? You call them bloodthirsty and yet you show up on their doorstep with an army of undead demanding that they surrender their stronghold. Who is the truly bloodthirsty one?" Remembering the situation around him, and that he is in no place to be overbearing, Striker speaks more calmly. "Either way wouldn't it have been more effective to kill the leaders of the Royal Guard and then take control of the place for yourself? I saw the carnage on my way in here and I can't believe that all of those soldiers needed to die. You don't look like you enjoyed the job either. Is this the handywork of the 'Sargatanas' you mentioned?" OOC: Ashariana, some time I'm going to fight you to the death for Indigo. |
| Sargatanas10-08-05, 05:21 PM | Striker thinks about the lady's words for a moment. Although she seems sincere enough, and even looks troubled by the things that went on here, Striker doesn't find her words compelling. "So you justify your presence here in the first place by saying that you would do a better job of running an institution such as the Royal Guards? You call them bloodthirsty and yet you show up on their doorstep with an army of undead demanding that they surrender their stronghold. Who is the truly bloodthirsty one?" Remembering the situation around him, and that he is in no place to be overbearing, Striker speaks more calmly. "Either way wouldn't it have been more effective to kill the leaders of the Royal Guard and then take control of the place for yourself? I saw the carnage on my way in here and I can't believe that all of those soldiers needed to die. You don't look like you enjoyed the job either. Is this the handywork of the 'Sargatanas' you mentioned?" OOC: Ashariana, some time I'm going to fight you to the death for Indigo. Sargatanas laughs, looking toward the young man who has just entered. His eyes flash with amusement as he takes a step down from the throne toward the young man. "Yes, it is my handywork. These people were not slaughtered, no, they were freed. I have set them free from their lives as nothing more than mortals. I have granted them eternal life, life forever as the damned! They will thank me for it in time. Human life is full of fear, death always lurking over the shoulder of a mortal being. Their lives are far better this way... they will live forever now, forever as lords of man, the soldiers of the damned!" |
| gabrion10-08-05, 05:35 PM | OOC: Just as a heads up (cause it could affect what you say to me), Striker has a disguise active right now. If you want you can make spot checks to see through it. Part of it is generated by the Disguise Self spell though, so if you would normally be able to see through such illusions you would see something a bit different. I have to run, but I'll continure RP later. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 05:36 PM | Ashariana sighs and frowns, running her hand along the staff she is leaning on. She looks toward Striker with a pouting face and shakes her head. "He can be so dramatic sometimes. You see why everyone died now? I just wanted to get rid of the leaders, I'm sure all of the people weren't bad. But their leaders, they were just violent. Did you know they even wanted to put some of their own members into other guild halls so they could command them to follow their rules? Even outside of the city! That just doesn't seem right to me. But I doubt I can change your mind... things just got way out of hand." Ashariana sighs and frowns, looking down at the ground beneath her. She looks back up at Striker with the frown still on her face. "Does... does that make me a monster?" |
| Solmund10-08-05, 06:11 PM | Solmund looked around, his eyes darting from guard to fallen guard. These men were not killed by any physical means... Doing of yours I supose Sargantas? He said, a bored look in his eyes. No, I don't think you are a monster because of the actions of another. Fighting a war you cannot finish is the folly that strikes down the weakest kingdoms and leaves only the strongest to survive. But surely someone as perceptive as yourself must have known this. He started towards the door, saying before he left, If you'll excuse me, it was a long trip and I had nothing but Lembas bread to eat. I'll need to find a good inn with perhaps a nice selection of moondrop wines. |
| premier66610-08-05, 06:38 PM | Ashariana sighs and frowns, running her hand along the staff she is leaning on. She looks toward Striker with a pouting face and shakes her head. "He can be so dramatic sometimes. You see why everyone died now? I just wanted to get rid of the leaders, I'm sure all of the people weren't bad. But their leaders, they were just violent. Did you know they even wanted to put some of their own members into other guild halls so they could command them to follow their rules? Even outside of the city! That just doesn't seem right to me. But I doubt I can change your mind... things just got way out of hand." Ashariana sighs and frowns, looking down at the ground beneath her. She looks back up at Striker with the frown still on her face. "Does... does that make me a monster?" If Drauguril had His free will he would probably saying: No, but making a person your slave for a lifetime is. ;) |
| Zombomaniac10-08-05, 06:57 PM | If Drauguril had His free will he would probably saying: No, but making a person your slave for a lifetime is. ;) Well Drauguril doesn't count as he is a thrall. :P |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 07:00 PM | If Drauguril had His free will he would probably saying: No, but making a person your slave for a lifetime is. ;) Drauguril doesn't seem to mind all that much ;) |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 07:14 PM | My opinion on things is what happens, happens, and there is little any can do to change it. Ashariana, I recognize you from the party at Ghashmal Keep, where I stayed away because I needed to work on my, ah, "workplace". Could you point me towards the wounded? I have work to do for them. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 07:17 PM | My opinion on things is what happens, happens, and there is little any can do to change it. Ashariana, I recognize you from the party at Ghashmal Keep, where I stayed away because I needed to work on my, ah, "workplace". Could you point me towards the wounded? I have work to do for them. Ashariana smiles sadly and shakes her head. She looks around at the corpses that have already begun to rise from the dead. She sighs, more undead to keep her company it seemed. "I'm sorry to say, but there are no injured. The dead do not even have wounds. The dead are not wounded of course... I'm sorry... but theres nobody to save." |
| gabrion10-08-05, 07:37 PM | "Yes, it is my handywork. These people were not slaughtered, no, they were freed. I have set them free from their lives as nothing more than mortals. I have granted them eternal life, life forever as the damned! They will thank me for it in time. Human life is full of fear, death always lurking over the shoulder of a mortal being. Their lives are far better this way... they will live forever now, forever as lords of man, the soldiers of the damned!" ""He can be so dramatic sometimes. You see why everyone died now? I just wanted to get rid of the leaders, I'm sure all of the people weren't bad. But their leaders, they were just violent. Did you know they even wanted to put some of their own members into other guild halls so they could command them to follow their rules? Even outside of the city! That just doesn't seem right to me. But I doubt I can change your mind... things just got way out of hand." Does... does that make me a monster?" Striker listens to Sargatanas and Ashariana in turn. It never failed to amaze him that villainous men and women were always so self-righteous, always sure that their actions were justified. "I knew nothing of the Royal Guards before this day. I was coming here to learn more about them. No matter what you say of them Ashariana, they could not have been worse that what you and Sargatanas have done here. You speak as though they were tyrants, but you walk with a man who enslaves the living by forcing them to march in an undead parade for his pleasure. Yes, this makes you a monster." Seeing that Igor is no doubt going to engage in some disgusting corpse alterations or something else that Striker just doesn't have the stomach for, he decides there is no reason for him to stay here longer. "Igor, if you wish to practice your craft here so be it, but I am ready to depart. Thank you for escorting me here and I will see you back at the Keep." Turning back toward Ashariana and Sargatanas, "You may think of yourselves as righteous saviors of this land, but I see you for what you truly are...evil tyrants who will go to any lengths to bend Tyranor to your will. Know this though, I will return to the Knights Von Drache where I will prepare to save this land from your treachery. Even with the power you wield and the armies you control, there are those of us who will stand to the very end, who will fight to ensure the freedom of tyranor, and you will have to face us before your conquest can be complete." At the end of his last words, Striker's figure begins to waver and become less solid. He slowly turns into a cloud-like figure and floats up out of the room, through an arrow slit on one of the balconies, and floats off into the sky. OOC: If you would like me to take any kind of message back to the Knights, feel free to yell at me as I float out of the room. |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 07:41 PM | I was hoping that there'd be at least one resistance point that could be convinced to give up. Ah, well. At least they died for what they believed in. Would any of you like to try some of my grafts? I can make you permanently faster, better, tougher... |
| Solmund10-08-05, 07:44 PM | any none undead grafts? perhaps a yuan-ti graft. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 07:48 PM | Ashariana sighs and shrugs. She seats herself on the arm of the throne and arches her back, stretching. She turns her eyes away from the gas as it retreats, looking over Igor with a shrug. "No, I'm afraid I'm not interested in any grafts. I like myself as I am. Something else's flesh stitched onto my body is not an appealing thing..." |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 07:50 PM | What about your guards? I assume they work for you because they are still alive here. Got yuan ti grafts. Actually, I don't have the undead grafts, but I can do half golem grafts. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 08:05 PM | Ashariana taps her chin softly and looks toward Drauguril, she smiles a bit and looks back at Igor. Standing from her seated position she walks over to Drauguril and puts her arms around his from behind, resting her head on his back. "Tell me... what kinds of Illithid grafts can you create? I've heard of a few, but I am not familiar with all of them." I have fiend folio, so I know of those grafts, but I think there would be more in Lords of Madness. Could you tell me what kind of illithid grafts they have in there? |
| gabrion10-08-05, 08:08 PM | Ashariana taps her chin softly and looks toward Drauguril, she smiles a bit and looks back at Igor. Standing from her seated position she walks over to Drauguril and puts her arms around his from behind, resting her head on his back. "Tell me... what kinds of Illithid grafts can you create? I've heard of a few, but I am not familiar with all of them." You're an evil *****. :D |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 08:12 PM | Well, the thing is, I'm low on money for materials right now, so you'd have to give me half the amount needed first. But after that, I can, say, replace a hand with a melee weapon, give them goring horns or the pincers of umber hulks, give them claws, or tentacles of illithids themselves, without the ability to withdraw brains, of course. I can give them the ability to climb anything, even ceilings, and allow them the ability to sense things around them for 60 feet that are on the ground. Of course, that isn't all I am limited to. Beholder grafts, for example, can give eye beam attacks, and also toughen the bones and make them cover vulnerable spots. Yuan ti grafts can add a tail that can strangle anything up to and including the size of your larger bodyguard there, depending on if you want an attached tail or one that replaces the legs, scales that toughen the skin, fangs with poison, and another, serpentine arm. Or, if you want them to become immensely strong, I could make them part golem... Since Lords of Madness is five hours from where I am, I can only give the Fiend Folio grafts at the moment. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 08:19 PM | Well, the thing is, I'm low on money for materials right now, so you'd have to give me half the amount needed first. But after that, I can, say, replace a hand with a melee weapon, give them goring horns or the pincers of umber hulks, give them claws, or tentacles of illithids themselves, without the ability to withdraw brains, of course. I can give them the ability to climb anything, even ceilings, and allow them the ability to sense things around them for 60 feet that are on the ground. Since Lords of Madness is five hours from where I am, I can only give the Fiend Folio grafts at the moment. Ashariana nods, seemingly deep in thought she smiles, her arms still around Drauguril. She runs a hand along his arms and shakes her head then places a hand on top of his head. She seems to think for a moment then nods, spinning around, she looks at Igor. Leaning against Drauguril with a smile. "I think we'll go with the antennae. It could be useful to be able to sense things. Maybe later we could find something else to give him, but thats what we'll go with for now." Ashariana nods and reaches an arm up putting it around Drauguril's neck. She smiles sweetly at Igor. "How long would that take to do? Would you be able to work with that right here, or do you need more time...?" |
| jagggar10-08-05, 08:20 PM | You're an evil *****. :D Whew, good to know I'm not the only one wreching. Followers were also taken from Lane's since I would assume that there were some of them here also. Killed: 88 - 1st-level 6 - 2nd-level 2 - 3rd-level |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 08:33 PM | Whew, good to know I'm not the only one wreching. Followers were also taken from Lane's since I would assume that there were some of them here also. Killed: 88 - 1st-level 6 - 2nd-level 2 - 3rd-level A girls gotta look after her investments ;) |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 08:42 PM | Ashariana nods, seemingly deep in thought she smiles, her arms still around Drauguril. She runs a hand along his arms and shakes her head then places a hand on top of his head. She seems to think for a moment then nods, spinning around, she looks at Igor. Leaning against Drauguril with a smile. "I think we'll go with the antennae. It could be useful to be able to sense things. Maybe later we could find something else to give him, but thats what we'll go with for now." Ashariana nods and reaches an arm up putting it around Drauguril's neck. She smiles sweetly at Igor. "How long would that take to do? Would you be able to work with that right here, or do you need more time...?" For me, it'd take a matter of hours, and I'd need the equipment at the Merchant's guild. I'll need 10,000 gp to begin, mainly for the materials necessary. In this case...twenty hours. It takes a while for the necessary components to settle after harvesting. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 08:47 PM | Ashariana shrugs and sighs. She looks in her coin purse and shakes her head. Running her hand along the side of Drauguril's face she shrugs her delicate shoulders. "Unfortunately I don't have the money it would end up costing in total at the moment. But wont that come out to the typical price for one of those... grafts? I would have thought someone of your obvious skill would be able to create one for so much less, and would be able to sell it for less as well." |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 08:55 PM | Ashariana shrugs and sighs. She looks in her coin purse and shakes her head. Running her hand along the side of Drauguril's face she shrugs her delicate shoulders. "Unfortunately I don't have the money it would end up costing in total at the moment. But wont that come out to the typical price for one of those... grafts? I would have thought someone of your obvious skill would be able to create one for so much less, and would be able to sell it for less as well." Normally, this would take twenty days. Those of us that choose the path of the fleshwarpers learn how to make more kinds of grafts, many that would be unavailable to ourselves. Normally, you'd have to go find an illithid for this graft, and part of making this will require some harvesting of living material unwilling to part with it and then stimulating it to grow into what is desired. So in other words, instead of cheaper prices, you get more variety and about one day instead of twenty, or four hours instead of four days. On price, technically, part of the funds from this place would be yours. That means a certain amount of the gold here... |
| Solmund10-08-05, 09:04 PM | I'm interested in these half-golem grafts you speak of... :D |
| Wilds10-08-05, 09:05 PM | Incarin and Onyx float out of the keep, bowing one last time as they leave. Going past the bodies and going into the sky once they clear the gate."This talk of flesh bores me, lets go." "Ok" |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 09:07 PM | I'm interested in these half-golem grafts you speak of... :D Feel like having to make a check on sanity? Oh, and if you consider half golem grafts, then you should consider getting that first, because that can drive a person insane, and illithid grafts lower the will of those that receive them... |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 09:07 PM | Ashariana sighs and nods. Looking Igor over she shrugs and wraps both arms around Drauguril's neck, reaching over her head. She pauses to think for a short time then nods. "Well, I suppose we'll have to wait a bit then, unless there is something you can create here and quite quickly. I'm not too sure if we're done here yet. We still haven't seen the captain of the guard or his other leaders." |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 09:13 PM | I can make you a goring horn for a total of eight thousand gold, four now, four after, eight hours total to do it. Or I can make a pair of climbing legs, four thousand total, two thousand now, two later. If they required spells, you could have gotten a discount of 80% of the normal price by letting me borrow a spellbook. The climbing legs would take four hours to make. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 09:26 PM | Ashariana nods, patting Drauguril's legs and stepping to the side with a smile. "I see... will you be able to make these legs here and now? I'd rather not have to travel far after the battle we have just had. Even though it was quick, it was still stressful..." |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 09:29 PM | Not here. As I said, I have to grow the legs. Besides, your "friend" just has to be there for the last bit. The thing about grafts is tht it has to be done somewhere that I feel comfortable. Actually, wait. If you could give me a little hand here, I will sell it to you for 75% standard price, for a total of 3000 gold. I just need a cleared spot that doesn't have that much going on around it, and a teleportation to my store and back to grab what's needed and buy the sample. Is that acceptable? |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 09:35 PM | Ashariana shakes her head and sighs. She takes a seat back on the arm of the throne and shrugs her shoulders. "No... that is why I wished you to do this here. But I suppose we will have to wait. I will contact you later to seek out your abilities. For now, I don't have much else to work with. We have to arrange things here first." I would just say ok or go with you, but I have to wait for Silimna to make her appearance. |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 09:37 PM | Well, what about what I just altered? Would that be acceptable? |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 09:38 PM | Ashariana nods, patting Drauguril's legs and stepping to the side with a smile. "I see... will you be able to make these legs here and now? I'd rather not have to travel far after the battle we have just had. Even though it was quick, it was still stressful..." They're actually two extras that go onto the torso. They look more like a newt's legs. |
| Ashariana10-08-05, 09:48 PM | They're actually two extras that go onto the torso. They look more like a newt's legs. "Extra? the limbs are extras? I was under the impression that grafts replaced limbs. But as I have said, I do not know a teleportation spell, I cannot send you back to your lab without such a spell." Does the fleshwarper have some ability to add limbs instead of replace them? |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 09:51 PM | No, its just that some grafts are additions rather than replacements. For example, the climbing legs, third eye, or the added tail. In fact, serpent arms can be additional limbs too. Besides, Sargatanas or one of his children of undeath may know one... |
| Sargatanas10-08-05, 10:03 PM | No, its just that some grafts are additions rather than replacements. For example, the climbing legs, third eye, or the added tail. In fact, serpent arms can be additional limbs too. Besides, Sargatanas or one of his children of undeath may know one... Sargatanas nods to the creature called Igor. He approaches him and stands infront of him looking down with his cold glowing eyes. "Yes, I can send you there, but only a one way trip. How long will it take you to return when you are sent and is it even worth our time?" |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-08-05, 10:08 PM | *sees an image of Crowley, in the Nine Layers* *shudders+sooks* It's the silver arm that stays with ya, and that eye thing. *smiles* |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 10:12 PM | Probably not for a one way trip. Sorry to waste your time here. Do you want any grafts for your newly made minions, sir? I just figured I should ask before leaving. If not from me, then I can get you in touch with one whose specialty is undead grafts. After all, he did this eye and arm for me... Points to bodak eye with enervating arm. |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 10:13 PM | *sees an image of Crowley, in the Nine Layers* *shudders+sooks* It's the silver arm that stays with ya, and that eye thing. *smiles* Wait, what? |
| Sargatanas10-08-05, 10:22 PM | Sargatanas shakes his head. Heading back to the throne and taking a seat. "No, I need nothing at the moment. Though I might call on ya later. For now we'll be fine. Now... back to the business... what to do with the rest of this place..." Sargatanas grins as the wights begin to gather. Their atropal lords floating in their midsts as they form two units in the throne room. Sargatanas nods and rests his new staff against his arm while he places a few gems into Zik's eyes. |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 10:27 PM | You have an army of undead and a keep, and you wonder what to do with the keep? The answer is make it into a necropolis/lair where you experiment with new undead. Or to sell it to someone and make a load of cash and use your army to acquire a lucrative career as a salesman. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-08-05, 10:30 PM | Wait, what? *chuckles* - erm, nuttin'! *whistles* |
| Sargatanas10-08-05, 10:37 PM | You have an army of undead and a keep, and you wonder what to do with the keep? The answer is make it into a necropolis/lair where you experiment with new undead. Or to sell it to someone and make a load of cash and use your army to acquire a lucrative career as a salesman. Sargatanas laughs and nods. Looking toward the graft master he waved a hand dismissively. "Yes, yes, I am aware of all this. I was simply deciding where to begin. There is much to do still, anyway... we'll contact you if we have anything to order. Did you wish to stick around for a while hm?" |
| Demonfey10-08-05, 10:41 PM | No. I should probably head back to my lab. Hopefully, I'll see you both at some point there. With that, he opens the door and, with odd wings, takes flight before taking the form of a sandy colored dragon and flying towards the merchant's guild. |
| Zombomaniac10-09-05, 01:51 AM | "How does it feel, O' Lord of the Damned? Tell how it feels to you. The killing of many and the, what did you call it? Oh yes, the "Gifting of Eternal Life" Quite the gift you give to these Mortals. So tell me how does it feel?" |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-09-05, 02:17 AM | Hi Zombo :) @all i think it's a good time to hava look at the DMG, p. 18, under DM Cheating and Player Perceptions, and also When Bad Things Happen to Good Characters. regards stav |
| premier66610-09-05, 08:10 AM | Hi Zombo :) @all i think it's a good time to hava look at the DMG, p. 18, under DM Cheating and Player Perceptions, and also When Bad Things Happen to Good Characters. regards stav Bad things indeed. Becoming a Trhall? And now She is going to give him gratfts? geez... *sobs* My poor character... such a terrible fate in his first fight... |
| Solmund10-09-05, 09:58 AM | yeah, imagien if she took over Arcanus..... :eek: (if anyone is wondering where my character went, check the penguin's breath in a few minutes) |
| Wilds10-09-05, 12:18 PM | Bad things indeed. Becoming a Trhall? And now She is going to give him gratfts? geez... *sobs* My poor character... such a terrible fate in his first fight... ya but no if u get him back, it will be crazy, cause he will be morepowerful |
| Sargatanas10-09-05, 12:51 PM | "How does it feel, O' Lord of the Damned? Tell how it feels to you. The killing of many and the, what did you call it? Oh yes, the "Gifting of Eternal Life" Quite the gift you give to these Mortals. So tell me how does it feel?" Sargatanas raises a rotting eyebrow and looks about the chamber. He waves an arm dismissively and smirks. "And who are you to question me in my own halls? Truth be known, it feels good. Very good indeed to free these fool mortals from their lives. To grant them eternity, followers of myself, the lord of the damned! Yes... it is a good thing for them, all shall see in time." |
| Ashariana10-09-05, 05:29 PM | Ashariana glanced around the room as if slightly bored as the voice spoke. She sighed and smilled looking toward Sargatanas "My my... it seems we've attracted quite a few guests already doesn't it? I wonder how many more will arrive before the day is out... it will be interesting to see. But let us hope none of these visitors seeks a fight, we wouldn't want to add more bodies to the count would we?" |
| Zombomaniac10-09-05, 06:32 PM | "Speak for your self, young Puppetiear. I would like to see more bodies lie upon these floors so that more may rise as those with Eternal Life." A small creature than appears a respectful distance away (15 ft). As the layers of illusion strip away from his form you see him to be an Imp. He is covered in many Imp-sized items and clothing. "You may call me Hirohito. I came to these halls when I saw you approach and watched your battle with a great interest." This is my PC now. For explaining how he is here he has been watching Sargatanas from afar for a little while now and after he saw the Crushing defeat of the Gaurds he felt it was time to stop watching and contact the Lord of the Damned. He then used invisability to enter the Castle from above and through a window. |
| Sargatanas10-10-05, 12:28 AM | "Speak for your self, young Puppetiear. I would like to see more bodies lie upon these floors so that more may rise as those with Eternal Life." A small creature than appears a respectful distance away (15 ft). As the layers of illusion strip away from his form you see him to be an Imp. He is covered in many Imp-sized items and clothing. "You may call me Hirohito. I came to these halls when I saw you approach and watched your battle with a great interest." This is my PC now. For explaining how he is here he has been watching Sargatanas from afar for a little while now and after he saw the Crushing defeat of the Gaurds he felt it was time to stop watching and contact the Lord of the Damned. He then used invisability to enter the Castle from above and through a window. Sargatanas nods and listens to the little imp. He shrugs his shoulders as his wights move about the keep, destroying the tapestries of the guard and replacing them with the symbol of Sargatanas drawn in blood. Tapping his fingers on the arm of the chair Sargatanas' cold eyes flash for a moment as he 'smiles.' "So imp, what is it you wish of me here? Do you wish to join me as a follower of the lord of the damned? Do you wish to bring all mortals unto eternal life, so that they may live forever and never worry over the icy touch of death? Oh yes, and you should treat the Lady Ashariana with more respect. She is, after all, my sister, and we wouldn't want to insult family. Besides, she is a powerful sorceress, it would be foolish to anger her." |
| Demonfey10-10-05, 12:33 AM | The wolf comes up to the door of the keep Nice place. What're you planning on calling it? It'll need a new name, after all... |
| Zombomaniac10-10-05, 12:47 AM | As Sarantanas talks the Imp flys about the room in a circular motion. Always keeping level with the eyes of those within the room. "I have lived many years and have been familar to more than one great wizard and Sorccer in my centuries of life. After a time I grew tired of flowting in the endless Abyss and took it upon myself to be at the side of the most powerful beings I could find. That is why i am here. I smell the power in the air around you and see great promise in the future you herald." Hirohito then flowts to sit on a perch to the side of the throne and bows toward Ashariana. "And I ment no disrespect Lady Ashariana. I aswell was not aware you two were related. This catches me by surprise. A act not commonly done anymore." |
| Demonfey10-10-05, 01:03 AM | Oh yes, and you should treat the Lady Ashariana with more respect. She is, after all, my sister, and we wouldn't want to insult family. Besides, she is a powerful sorceress, it would be foolish to anger her." Now, because words can't describe this well enough: :whatsthis :OMG! Completely skipped :shocked: in there too... If I remember right, Ashariana is a living undead, like a warforged is an alive construct, so how? |
| Sargatanas10-10-05, 01:04 AM | Sargatanas nods and laughs. He places the tips of his fingers together as if in thought, glancing between the wolf and the imp. He nods and stands, waving his hand across the halls around him. "This place is the first step in cleansing the world and freeing them from death's cold grasp. Here the damned shall grow and build... HERE the damned shall rise again to bring hope to those who are lost. HERE we shall show the world that there is hope for it yet, that it can never grow old, it can never die if it follows the path that I lay out before it. This shall be our kingdom, this building... this home... this ground that shall be held as holy for it's status as the origin... this temple. The Temple of the Damned..." As to demonfey's suprise... well... you'll just have to find out. |
| Sssargoth10-10-05, 01:08 AM | Now, because words can't describe this well enough: :whatsthis :OMG! Completely skipped :shocked: in there too... If I remember right, Ashariana is a living undead, like a warforged is an alive construct, so how? Ashariana is a blooded, which means one of her parents was a vampire. I assume they have the same mother but different fathers. |
| Demonfey10-10-05, 01:09 AM | That's what I'm thinking as well, but if not, then how can they be related? |
| Zombomaniac10-10-05, 01:14 AM | Ashariana is a blooded, which means one of her parents was a vampire. I assume they have the same mother but different fathers. They could have the same dad. A vamp doesn't always give birsth to a Bloodied or Half-Vamp. The Mom could have had him as human and her as blooded. He later that felt that Undeath was best, but didnt go vamp for what ever reason. |
| Ashariana10-10-05, 01:54 AM | Ashariana smiles and leans against Drauguril with a smile at the Imp. She rolls her shoulders and laughs. "Temple of the Damned eh brother? Sounds like something you would pick for a name... And yes imp, we are indeed brother and sister. It is not much that well known in these lands. It would seem Sargatanas developed a bit more of a... fanatical personality than I did. But we are still family." |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 02:11 AM | Ashariana smiles and leans against Drauguril with a smile at the Imp."[/I] *funeral dirge sounds in the background* |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 02:13 AM | ...i c some family relations poppin' into the picture.....*chuckles* I've heard of the Addams family, but there's a line in the sand here. |
| Demonfey10-10-05, 02:14 AM | This'll just bug me until I find out: did you both have the same mother and father, or was one of them a different parent for one of you, presumably at some point one of them a half vampire simply because of Lady Ashariana's heritage. |
| Sargatanas10-10-05, 02:20 AM | This'll just bug me until I find out: did you both have the same mother and father, or was one of them a different parent for one of you, presumably at some point one of them a half vampire simply because of Lady Ashariana's heritage. Sargatanas laughs and takes his seat again. Leaning low in his chair and resting in a comfortable position, he looks toward the wolf, one of the many many crowley forms he has met so far. "Ah, well then perhaps I should let it bug you... Nah, I'll tell ya if you insist. Ashariana is the descendant of a Vampire Lord. His own child was her father, who on a whim decided to force himself upon my mother while she was under his mind's domination. I was forced to watch as he had his way with my mother, and my father lay bleeding to death on the floor of the room. Afterwards, he departed, leaving myself and my mother alone. Now... many would be horrified by the dead after such an encounter... but the sheer power. I must say it drew me in. To never fear death, to never suffer and be weak like my father, who could not even defend his wife. Such a great thing it would be... in time I became what I am today. But that is another story, for another time. Perhaps some day I will choose to tell it as well." |
| Demonfey10-10-05, 02:32 AM | Ah. That explains it, and is still so much nicer than the story of my own birth, or what I've gained by trying to get an aboleth's memory. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 07:10 AM | Hi Premier, can see ya lurkin'. You hang on to yer britches a wee bit more..... @anyone curious Complete Divine is really cool. There are some very nice feats (can't choose those, my feats are already chosen), but you certainly can make magic items for such feats. @PCs still waitin' on some final advice. @anyone curious also, some very nice new spells and Domains in Complete Divine. The PrC range is extraordinary. The cross-pollination of powers is vast. (I'm not changing my PC. It's just a general comment). Access to extra Domains, ability to import Arcane casting, savvy things you can do with the Turning facility, by directing it into other really interesting things. One new spell, in particular, to really accelerate The Winter Leaf's interests. If you check out the Strategist's Foundation, you'll see some handy hints, as well, for how we Drow of Eilistraee & Winter Leaf folk do our thang. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 08:25 AM | Questions for the Bad Guyz 1. Ashariana: sorry to sound interrogative, but a) how do we get DC=29 for Dominate Person? b) is this a Spell-like Effect or Supernatural Power?, and c) is there a Reflex Save for the Acid Orb? 2. Sargantanas: a) about your Will Save at +19, how is that broken down? 3. What was the last thing that happened, before we begin again? regards stav |
| Sargatanas10-10-05, 09:08 AM | Questions for the Bad Guyz 1. Ashariana: sorry to sound interrogative, but a) how do we get DC=29 for Dominate Person? b) is this a Spell-like Effect or Supernatural Power?, and c) is there a Reflex Save for the Acid Orb? 2. Sargantanas: a) about your Will Save at +19, how is that broken down? 3. What was the last thing that happened, before we begin again? regards stav The break down is listed on my sheet. Right next to where it says the save... Ashariana's save is 19+primary casting stat mod (+8)+Ability focus (+2), which if you add up comes out to 29. Wether it's spell like or not is really her business, but the class is right out of complete arcane, so its easy to find. Remember, your character doesn't know a thing about any of our "stats" so I shouldn't even be tellin ya the break downs ;) The last thing that happened was us chatting about the family connection |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 09:59 AM | The break down is listed on my sheet. Right next to where it says the save... right on target. It's a good stacking model. Ashariana's save is 19+primary casting stat mod (+8)+Ability focus (+2), which if you add up comes out to 29. Wether it's spell like or not is really her business, but the class is right out of complete arcane, so its easy to find. Remember, your character doesn't know a thing about any of our "stats" so I shouldn't even be tellin ya the break downs ;) Mechanics expl. are okay, b/- we post it all up on a board. I'd love to see a model of storage where we actually couldn't see each others' PCs, but that was cheating-proof. I've come up with the PM-DM model at the HEF, but that's for Metaboards. :) The last thing that happened was us chatting about the family connection Thanx for explaining. Families with histories make it interesting. Round what, maybe is for the GMs. It's a nice stacking of scores on the saves for both chars. stav |
| Sargatanas10-10-05, 10:26 AM | right on target. It's a good stacking model. Mechanics expl. are okay, b/- we post it all up on a board. I'd love to see a model of storage where we actually couldn't see each others' PCs, but that was cheating-proof. I've come up with the PM-DM model at the HEF, but that's for Metaboards. :) Thanx for explaining. Families with histories make it interesting. Round what, maybe is for the GMs. It's a nice stacking of scores on the saves for both chars. stav Round? We're not exactly in combat anymore so there really arent any 'rounds' really. But the GMs could set an amount of time thats passed since then... in rounds, but it would be a bit eh... big number. But now, I got some stuff ta do. I'll be back ta finish this later. |
| Zombomaniac10-10-05, 10:53 AM | ya several rounds have gone by. Theres been enough time since Saratanas and Ashariana defeated Zik and Xen for then to walk around the whole castle, raise all the dead, have a conversation with the RP group, DF's wolf, and me. I'd say a good 2-5 hours. |
| Wilds10-10-05, 11:16 AM | lets say 2 hours so one round is 6 secs 10 rounds a min 600 rounds an hour 1200 rounds in 2 hours i think. 3000 rounds in 5 hours? long enough for any non-opti board spell to be gone, well most at elast |
| gabrion10-10-05, 01:20 PM | @anyone curious also, some very nice new spells and Domains in Complete Divine. The PrC range is extraordinary. The cross-pollination of powers is vast. (I'm not changing my PC. It's just a general comment). Access to extra Domains, ability to import Arcane casting, savvy things you can do with the Turning facility, by directing it into other really interesting things. One new spell, in particular, to really accelerate The Winter Leaf's interests. If you check out the Strategist's Foundation, you'll see some handy hints, as well, for how we Drow of Eilistraee & Winter Leaf folk do our thang. stav Yes, CD is an extraordinary book and I don't think anyone out there can find a WotC product that rivals its power level. David Noonan is very openly a cleric fanatic, and the best way to think of the book is as his tribute to an already bloated and overpowerd class. That said, I'm a munchkin so I love the book. :D Anywho, I'm anxious to see what happens here, so let's get it goin! (As soon as the GMs are cool with it of course) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 06:17 PM | tanx I'll wait to see DM advice 'bout it, because if it's several hours, then, a number of things will or could have been organised *grins* stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-10-05, 07:00 PM | Yes, CD is an extraordinary book and I don't think anyone out there can find a WotC product that rivals its power level. David Noonan is very openly a cleric fanatic, and the best way to think of the book is as his tribute to an already bloated and overpowerd class. That said, I'm a munchkin so I love the book. :D thanx, Gabe :) "cleric fanatic" *chuckles* it so shows. It's great! @all you'll see with Silimna the emphasis on Item Creation feats. D&D 3.5 is all about portability of powers, using magic items. That spirit underpins all the tomes (you can get a feat-like effect in a magic item). So, I'm lookin' forward to the 'where to from here' with all of it. Anywho, I'm anxious to see what happens here, so let's get it goin! (As soon as the GMs are cool with it of course) *smiles* me too! Won't be long, now. The build up is great, I reckon.... *whistles* stav |
| Sargatanas10-11-05, 12:24 AM | We about ready to get this thing goin? Also, I was wonderin how much experience We've gotten for this little conquest here so far. The changes you requested have been made oh ye who live above! |
| Demonfey10-11-05, 12:36 AM | Thanks, Sargatanas. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-11-05, 06:46 PM | just...about....ready *grins* perhaps a DM post, stating what round we is up to..... now, if the element of surprise is not totally obliterated by the last seven days of labour (*chuckles*) - never mind - at least the PCs hopefully might have, in RP, a bit of a surprise coming..... *grins* stav @those who assisted thank you for all your correspondences and work. It is appreciated :) stavvy |
| Sargatanas10-12-05, 01:07 AM | just...about....ready *grins* perhaps a DM post, stating what round we is up to..... now, if the element of surprise is not totally obliterated by the last seven days of labour (*chuckles*) - never mind - at least the PCs hopefully might have, in RP, a bit of a surprise coming..... *grins* stav @those who assisted thank you for all your correspondences and work. It is appreciated :) stavvy Did you completely ignore what we said? Its been long enough not to measure in rounds anymore since things with Silimna didn't seem to be together. And we know that you'll be coming, you randomly sang IC in the room, so it ain't much of a suprise anymore that some half elf is going to randomly appear and likely make threats (as they seem to do often). |
| Demonfey10-12-05, 01:09 AM | @Ashariana: I decided the tools of disguise didn't fit Igor's mindset, so sold them and now have enough to actually work on cheaper grafts. Want me to just have Igor begin on a cheaper illithid graft? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-12-05, 08:05 AM | Did you completely ignore what we said? I'm waiting for a DM post about the round we're up to. It affects my choices. Also, @All we need a character map. Can you bad guyz please place yourselves in five feet squares. ta muchly s t a v r o s *my partner says I have a Kligon disposition and Kingon brow. I went to a fancy dress party once with skin putty on my face to make me more like a Klingon than I already am* today is a good day to die |
| Sssargoth10-12-05, 10:46 AM | I'm waiting for a DM post about the round we're up to. approximately 3,217.4 :D |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-12-05, 11:51 AM | okay, @GMs provided jagggar's okay, too - we're off and away. I've written you both (excuse me leaving Necro out of the equation, it's just that he's vanished). I'll wait a few more hours (I'm gunna go ta sleep soon, it's late here in Oz, but I get to sleep in tomorrow), just to be sure. Please revise your judgment if you need. I'll send you both advice the last advice, before posting. I know this has been a drawn out process, but it's been good, I think, to establish respectable methods of game play. You'll find that I'm very good at honouring the DMs' needs, despite whatever you were told, or whatever myths were created through whatever route. I've enjoyed using the episode to dispel some myths. :) I've played so long and DM'd so long, that, respect for DMs is a given. That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about campaign strucure. Just that whatever structure exists, I respect. If I seek modifications for the game environment, I'll handle it, respectfully, metathread. :) regards to you stav |
| Sargatanas10-12-05, 01:10 PM | Yep... would like to get on with my unlife... |
| Ashariana10-12-05, 03:43 PM | @Ashariana: I decided the tools of disguise didn't fit Igor's mindset, so sold them and now have enough to actually work on cheaper grafts. Want me to just have Igor begin on a cheaper illithid graft? I think I'll wait for this battle to be over first. |
| Demonfey10-12-05, 04:41 PM | Okay. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-12-05, 09:22 PM | update hi everyone once the five-feet square is 'ere, we're on. All else is cleared. Since so much time has passed A vision of Silmarien's face suddenly appears before you. She turns to you, and looks into your scrying portal, before gesturing to the combatants and says "thence, we shall see the fruits of our labours" before turning to Sargantanas and Ashariana. Even from her dimension, you can see the Runestaff ablaze, with potent Lore. She says, looking at Sargantanas narrowing her eyes "The Universe works in mysterious ways. Help finds those on a path few will discern or know." |
| Demonfey10-12-05, 09:24 PM | Also GMs. Hey, Sil. Can I ask why you always warn your enemies like this? Now that you've contacted us, we know that you'll probably launch some attack. |
| turalisj10-12-05, 09:46 PM | It's called being lawful-stupid. aka honorable. :P |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-12-05, 10:03 PM | Also GMs. Hey, Sil. Can I ask why you always warn your enemies like this? Now that you've contacted us, we know that you'll probably launch some attack. anyone who hasn't worked out, by now, what Silimna is up to is lawful stupid @all The element of surprise was lost, many days ago. So, I've used the opportunity to dispel some myths and reinforce the right of the DMs to *decide* |
| Demonfey10-12-05, 10:07 PM | Well, yes, but of course, you don't have to play at it that way. This just gives away your plan IG, since you would have still gotten the surprise round. |
| Sargatanas10-12-05, 10:23 PM | Sargatanas stands hefting the staff once used by Zik. He laughs at the image and waves his hand, the image fading completely in a burst of red light. The rest of Sargatanas' undead followers stand and draw weapons. Pulling forth their weapons and magical equipment and standing at the ready. "Oh how the foolish announce their arrival. 'We're coming to fight you.' How utterly stupid of these elves... have they never heard of being subtle? It doesn't matter, they'll die if they come." 1_____ __2___ __3___ __4___ __5___ __6___ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ A │ │ ASH │ Thrall │ Sarg │Kanosic │ │ │ │ +Skar │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ B │ │ │ Alanya │ │ Mino │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ C │ │ │ │ │ │ │ | │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ D │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ E │ │ │ SIL │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ Hows that for ya? Or was one of the GMs gonna do it? I think we've waited long enough... |
| premier66610-12-05, 10:28 PM | Why, is Drauguril (who is a melee char and a very good one if that mathers) is standing behind someone? |
| Sargatanas10-12-05, 10:32 PM | Why, is Drauguril (who is a melee char and a very good one if that mathers) is standing behind someone? Because thats where Ashariana wanted him. |
| Demonfey10-12-05, 10:33 PM | ...because he's not under your control anymore? Also, apparently Stav had to go somewhere, so still more waiting. |
| Sargatanas10-12-05, 10:36 PM | ...because he's not under your control anymore? Also, apparently Stav had to go somewhere, so still more waiting. I'm begining to think hes waiting for someone to show up and help him. |
| premier66610-12-05, 10:36 PM | Sil has gone to sleep, from what I take from his post. |
| turalisj10-12-05, 10:48 PM | A snap and crack is heard and an elvish voice comes from somewhere saying, Oh gods! So..many....undead.....Sorry, you're on your own. Another snap and crack is heard. :P I'm not risking another character. Nope. Not going to. |
| Zombomaniac10-13-05, 12:23 AM | :P I'm not risking another character. Nope. Not going to. You are a smart man. :D Also my PC is in there too. Put him at B1 fifteen feet in the air. Hirohito laughs and waits on his perch for the slaughter to come. |
| Wilds10-13-05, 01:50 AM | Put my char is C1 if you dont mind please, hes not gana fight, just watch, same hieght as zombo "Evil cackling always makes things better." As Incarin floats out of the wall and next to the floating figure |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 08:26 AM | Sargatanas stands hefting the staff once used by Zik. He laughs at the image and waves his hand, the image fading completely in a burst of red light. The rest of Sargatanas' undead followers stand and draw weapons. Pulling forth their weapons and magical equipment and standing at the ready. "Oh how the foolish announce their arrival. 'We're coming to fight you.' How utterly stupid of these elves... have they never heard of being subtle? It doesn't matter, they'll die if they come." 1_____ __2___ __3___ __4___ __5___ __6___ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ A │ │ ASH │ Thrall │ Sarg │Kanosic │ │ │ │ +Skar │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ B │ │ │ Alanya │ │ Mino │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ C │ │ │ │ │ │ │ | │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ D │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ E │ │ │ SIL │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ ______ │ Hows that for ya? Silimna's position is not known and - the clock goes tick, tock, tick, tock. Tick, tock goes the clock. When she comes. Also, see Players Are Aware DMG. jagggar said she's developing a map. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 08:28 AM | @Sargantanas, what's your weapon in your hand - your reach? Ditto for all PCs. I suppose everyone's been chatting for 1000 rounds with their weapons in their hands. *wry smile* stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 08:30 AM | It's *nearly Friday* here in Oz. when you least expect it..... Hai Ya! *voosh* *eyes stare at you from Cyberspace* |
| Wilds10-13-05, 10:04 AM | Silimna's position is not known and - the clock goes tick, tock, tick, tock. Tick, tock goes the clock. When she comes. Also, see Players Are Aware DMG. ??? that doesnt mean that a map cant be made. They already talked too about how close you could teleport in |
| Demonfey10-13-05, 10:25 AM | Silimna's position is not known and - the clock goes tick, tock, tick, tock. Tick, tock goes the clock. When she comes. Also, see Players Are Aware DMG. jagggar said she's developing a map. stav The portal thing is always a hint that stuff is about to happen, Sil. It's only logical that, after you do that, they will be expecting an enemy to pop up. Also, that was probably where Sargatanas thought the sending portal might be. |
| jagggar10-13-05, 11:33 AM | Umm, isn't ths supposed to be a throne room? And you make it 30x25? And without a throne? Just need to put the map to Paint and then upload it. Will be done today. |
| jagggar10-13-05, 12:20 PM | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/jagggar/TRGThroneRoom.jpg |
| Sargatanas10-13-05, 01:32 PM | Sil... you'll figure out reach and that when you get here. You are not the DM, you don't need to know every last detail... please stop asking questions so we can just get on with this! I've been kept out of roleplay on the rest of the board long enough by waiting for you. Sargatanas: B4 Alanya: B3 Minotaur: B5 Skartog: A2 Drauguril: A3 Ashariana: A4 Kanosic: A5 That should do... |
| Zombomaniac10-13-05, 01:49 PM | Hirohito plans to stay back for now but if things go bad for Sargantanas he will join in and start spellcasting. :) |
| Ashariana10-13-05, 02:24 PM | Ashariana sighs and takes up a position behind the throne. Slipping something into her hand as she moves. Ordering Skartog to stand beside Drauguril who stands beside her. She shrus her shoulders and stands behind the throne to be hidden for the most part. "Well, this is going to be fun. More elves who think they need to save the world from the mean ol undead. Do they really think they can do it so easily?" Yes... PLEASE can we just finish this. I've been waiting for this to end so I can finally get back to the stormhand federation, so I can get what I'm owed from Arcanus, so I can do all kinds of things I just havent been able to because of waiting for you to finally show up! There should be like, a rule or something. If someone wants to show up for a battle but doesn't actually show up for a few days... they can't. Because this is just rediculous. |
| Master_of_Flames10-13-05, 04:06 PM | Not all elves care whether the undead rule the lands. I realy wouldn't give a damn. Li'ruak said, floating into the throne room through one of the doors. Li'ruak will be at A8, with just enough room to high tail it if things go badly (doubful though) If needed, I can just send a max vitrolic blast at her holy symbol, cutting her off from any turning attempts/spellcasting. *juggles 3 greenish orange spheres in hand*{ :D |
| Demonfey10-13-05, 04:15 PM | Consulted a GM before deciding to join battle? I'm just tired of people getting accused of showing up to save side x and the time consuming argument afterwards. Also, in the words of Monty Python, "GET ON WITH IT!" Seemed appropriate. |
| Sargatanas10-13-05, 04:23 PM | No no no, for the love of god, no more people. We don't need any more people showing up. If evil people show up, good people will show up, then its just going to be a huge brawl. NO. |
| Master_of_Flames10-13-05, 04:24 PM | I just want to join in on killing sil. :D btw, aer there any candles or torches that would give off light? if not, good. that means a harder chance for her spells to work. If so, then I can make it dark. |
| Master_of_Flames10-13-05, 04:25 PM | No no no, for the love of god, no more people. We don't need any more people showing up. If evil people show up, good people will show up, then its just going to be a huge brawl. NO. Who in there right mind would show up to aide the good guys? |
| Sargatanas10-13-05, 04:29 PM | I don't think we'll be needing help. If you interfere, I'll kill you myself. I've been waiting far too long for someone to show up now and then have this whole thing messed up yet again. I've been waiting WAY TOO LONG. |
| Demonfey10-13-05, 04:38 PM | Who in there right mind would show up to aide the good guys? You forget, the good guys tend to stick together. In fact, that's the reason Sil's character is even coming here. Trust me, the odds are already on evil's side, they don't need help at all. |
| Master_of_Flames10-13-05, 04:47 PM | A dark outline glows around Li'ruak for a few seconds. there, he's gone. so much for having a character involved ingame. :( |
| Demonfey10-13-05, 04:52 PM | Time and place. Now is a bad time for that here, especially with the short patience on awaiting the attack. |
| Sargatanas10-13-05, 04:54 PM | I've been waiting for two weeks, two REAL LIFE WEEKS... for stav to get his act together and show up. I have been kept out of any type of roleplaying elsewhere, I have been kept from doing what I would alredy have done in character... because I've been waiting for stav. If he doesn't show up today, I'm going to ignore him. He won't be showing up, Silimna's attack is off. I'm not waiting any longer, I've waited too long already. This has been rediculous, and I'm not doing it anymore. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 06:28 PM | I've been waiting for two weeks, two REAL LIFE WEEKS... for stav to get his act together and show up. I have been kept out of any type of roleplaying elsewhere, I have been kept from doing what I would alredy have done in character... because I've been waiting for stav. If he doesn't show up today, I'm going to ignore him. He won't be showing up, Silimna's attack is off. I'm not waiting any longer, I've waited too long already. This has been rediculous, and I'm not doing it anymore. you'll live *smiles* anyhowz, I'd have been happy to have gone in, weeks ago. It's just that there was jumping up and down, so, when in doubt, delay @GMs ruling, here would be good. @pcs I'm sorry for your inconvenience, it's just that DMs are talking to players, behind the scenes. we've been busy :) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 06:34 PM | No no no, for the love of god, no more people. We don't need any more people showing up. If evil people show up, good people will show up, then its just going to be a huge brawl. NO. yes, if they can. *huge brawl* :) stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 06:40 PM | Sil... you'll figure out reach You fought before I arrived - stav |
| jagggar10-13-05, 07:07 PM | Okay, that's it. Soon as Stav PMs cast spells Silimna can go in. Once this is over we're going to make sure that all future combats, spyings, scryings, etc. actually have the rules which already exist to back them up. Stav, PM with spells. No one else is going to get into this combat unless they roll a Gather Info check high enough and are able to teleport in. Not even if you RP yourself in before Stav gets his post up. Got it? |
| Wilds10-13-05, 07:10 PM | I dont want my char to fight, just to watch, hes been here the most of the time. |
| Sargatanas10-13-05, 07:26 PM | Okay, that's it. Soon as Stav PMs cast spells Silimna can go in. Once this is over we're going to make sure that all future combats, spyings, scryings, etc. actually have the rules which already exist to back them up. Stav, PM with spells. No one else is going to get into this combat unless they roll a Gather Info check high enough and are able to teleport in. Not even if you RP yourself in before Stav gets his post up. Got it? Finally, thank you! Maybe now I can finally get on with my life and stop waiting. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 07:29 PM | Okay, that's it. Soon as Stav PMs cast spells Silimna can go in. Once this is over we're going to make sure that all future combats, spyings, scryings, etc. actually have the rules which already exist to back them up. Stav, PM with spells. No one else is going to get into this combat unless they roll a Gather Info check high enough and are able to teleport in. Not even if you RP yourself in before Stav gets his post up. Got it? three PMs sent. Scrying rules have been followed. You don't get a Will Save if you're scrying a friend. It's in the long document I sent you, all the methodology. stav |
| Sargatanas10-13-05, 07:30 PM | three PMs sent. Scrying rules have been followed. You don't get a Will Save if you're scrying a friend. It's in the long document I sent you, all the methodology. stav Depends wether or not this 'friend' has his own free will or not. |
| jagggar10-13-05, 07:32 PM | I dont want my char to fight, just to watch, hes been here the most of the time. That's okay. Where are you? (Chartwise on the pretty map I posted a link to) Need to get some things sorted out. Will post. Currently inbox is full. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 07:35 PM | Depends wether or not this 'friend' has his own free will or not. and that depends on when it happened, and also assumes nothing else did happen. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-13-05, 07:40 PM | I have got to go to work - my apologies for the inconvenience, but I will be right back to it when I get home @bad guyz all is in place. Jagggar, take your time wading thru my instructions. kind regards stav |
| Master_of_Flames10-13-05, 07:53 PM | Okay, that's it. Soon as Stav PMs cast spells Silimna can go in. Once this is over we're going to make sure that all future combats, spyings, scryings, etc. actually have the rules which already exist to back them up. Stav, PM with spells. No one else is going to get into this combat unless they roll a Gather Info check high enough and are able to teleport in. Not even if you RP yourself in before Stav gets his post up. Got it? http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?u=Liruak&limit=on Is that high enough? And does using dimension dor and fly count? |
| Wilds10-13-05, 08:17 PM | [QUOTE=jagggar]That's okay. Where are you? (Chartwise on the pretty map I posted a link to) [QUOTE] I would like to be at C1 if possible, 15 ft in the air |
| Zombomaniac10-14-05, 12:16 AM | B1 15 feet in air and noncombatant aslong as Sargatanas and Ashariana are winning. |
| jagggar10-14-05, 12:29 AM | Sargatanas, The Minotaur takes up a 10x10 space. Is B5-C6 good for it? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/jagggar/TRGThroneRoom.jpg Answering a few of Stav's final questions. Battle shall start soon. . . |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 01:05 AM | Sargatanas, The Minotaur takes up a 10x10 space. Is B5-C6 good for it? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/jagggar/TRGThroneRoom.jpg Answering a few of Stav's final questions. Battle shall start soon. . . Sure, that works. |
| Wilds10-14-05, 08:13 AM | Why can Sil know that before he teles in? |
| jagggar10-14-05, 09:20 AM | Because we're throwing half of what should be done out the window just so we can get the [string of profanaties] thing over with. |
| Wilds10-14-05, 10:17 AM | o my bad i find these :censored: to be better for profanitys and such |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 12:58 PM | suddenly, you hear a school-girl scream and..... *joking* suddenly, a golden aura fills the room, radiant with naked, living hallowed force. It is the imperative of viriditas - health, vitality and wellbeing. To Undead, it is an Interdict - anathema to the wrongness of their sinew. The smell of springtime blossom fills the room, but you don't see anything. Ambal! Suddenly, stone springs from the very earth, encasing all bar Silimna's friend and Sk-whatsitsname. REFLEX SAVINGS THROWS! (DC=21 pending GM advice from jagggar) |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 01:00 PM | suddenly, you hear a school-girl scream and..... *joking* suddenly, a golden aura fills the room, radiant with naked, living hallowed force. It is the imperative of viriditas - health, vitality and wellbeing. To Undead, it is an Interdict - anathema to the wrongness of their sinew. The smell of springtime blossom fills the room, but you don't see anything. Ambal! Suddenly, stone springs from the very earth, encasing all bar Silimna's friend and Sk-whatsitsname. REFLEX SAVINGS THROWS! (DC=21 pending GM advice from jagggar) Against what spell? Also, who has to make the saves? Need to note this stuff OOC. |
| Demonfey10-14-05, 01:03 PM | If I'm right, the first one is a turning effect, the second one probably stone grasp. Just a guess, though. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 01:15 PM | Hi fellas. i'm gunna wait for jagggar to say how much to reveal. IMC, I don't tell spell names, to the other team, unless they use a method to ascertain it, and when we make saves, our DM's don't disclose...but, she may feel different. Or, you may have a special reason to ask. It's not my business, either way. Hope yer both well, by the way. Also, I have been belly laughing at some of the PM advice. I'll let yuz know why after. My stomach hurts from laughing. It's, erm, something about Amazon-esque PCs...... *chuckles again* stav |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 01:19 PM | Hi fellas. i'm gunna wait for jagggar to say how much to reveal. IMC, I don't tell spell names, to the other team, unless they use a method to ascertain it, and when we make saves, our DM's don't disclose...but, she may feel different. Or, you may have a special reason to ask. It's not my business, either way. Hope yer both well, by the way. Also, I have been belly laughing at some of the PM advice. I'll let yuz know why after. My stomach hurts from laughing. It's, erm, something about Amazon-esque PCs...... *chuckles again* stav *clears his throat and points to his +25 spellcraft, also notes his is both a cleric and wizard, and knows arcane and divine spells* |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 01:50 PM | Well, while you disappear again and make this take forever, I'll post saves. 19, 21, 30, 23 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166557) (+1 added for desecrate) Assuming whatever you just cast was legit (I've seen people use spells they can't, thats why I want to know what it is). |
| Ashariana10-14-05, 01:58 PM | Save: 19 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166562) I would make some sort of RP post about it... but I have no idea what the spell is... so I'm kind of cut off from that... |
| Wilds10-14-05, 03:11 PM | wow :bigeyes: wow and thats not for Sils actions, its because what happened makes no sense |
| premier66610-14-05, 04:57 PM | *clears his throat and points to his +25 spellcraft, also notes his is both a cleric and wizard, and knows arcane and divine spells* Hell, if you want that much her to tell what spell is, just make the spellcraft roll. if you pass, I'm sure Sil will tell. (Yo Asharianna, after this, care to take BM on again? just for fun?) |
| Solmund10-14-05, 05:00 PM | Hell, if you want that much her to tell what spell is, just make the spellcraft roll. if you pass, I'm sure Sil will tell. (Yo Asharianna, after this, care to take BM on again? just for fun?) do that, and she'll probobly slap you around with your own hands :P |
| premier66610-14-05, 05:05 PM | do that, and she'll probobly slap you around with your own hands :P Oh gods! no more hand jokes! please! |
| Solmund10-14-05, 05:14 PM | Oh gods! no more hand jokes! please! well, you do have to hand it to her... she has a pretty good (oxymoron intended) character. |
| jagggar10-14-05, 05:23 PM | On naming spells: It is by far easiest to name the spell cast. If you have problems doing that, then you should at minimum say what happens on a successful and failed saves. That way the person making the save can post an RP reaction which is must better than posting their reactions for them. In this case, Failure means the character is trapped inside of a stone dome which covers squares A4-5 and B3-5. Success means they move out of the way so they aren't trapped. For tatical ease, the light originates from the intersection between C1 and D2, under Wilds' character. Everyone, Roll initative. (This includes watchers.) |
| Wilds10-14-05, 05:33 PM | under my char..... joy Int: 5 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166684) lol so bad |
| Master_of_Flames10-14-05, 05:48 PM | never got a reply to my gather info check. If it succeeds, Li'ruak heads here as fast as possible with fell flight used. |
| premier66610-14-05, 06:02 PM | On naming spells: It is by far easiest to name the spell cast. If you have problems doing that, then you should at minimum say what happens on a successful and failed saves. That way the person making the save can post an RP reaction which is must better than posting their reactions for them. In this case, Failure means the character is trapped inside of a stone dome which covers squares A4-5 and B3-5. Success means they move out of the way so they aren't trapped. For tatical ease, the light originates from the intersection between C1 and D2, under Wilds' character. Everyone, Roll initative. (This includes watchers.) Well, you now how Sil is... |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 06:04 PM | Initiatives: 19, 21, 25, 21 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166693) Sargatanas looks around inside the big stone dome and shrugs. Looking back toward Ashariana who is also within the dome he grins noticing the others had escaped. "Well, this is a minor annoyance." (order on that initiative (and the saves) is Sargatanas, Kanosic, Alanya, Minotaur) |
| Ashariana10-14-05, 08:38 PM | Ashariana sighs and shrugs her shoulders. She taps her staff on the stone wall and smirks. "Well this is just a weird way to start off a fight, isn't it?" Initiative: 21, 12 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166755) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 09:37 PM | On naming spells: It is by far easiest to name the spell cast. If you have problems doing that, then you should at minimum say what happens on a successful and failed saves. That way the person making the save can post an RP reaction which is must better than posting their reactions for them. In this case, Failure means the character is trapped inside of a stone dome which covers squares A4-5 and B3-5. Success means they move out of the way so they aren't trapped. For tatical ease, the light originates from the intersection between C1 and D2, under Wilds' character. Everyone, Roll initative. (This includes watchers.) thanx jagggar, Question: except, youz may have decided there was something they could block - so, I waited. I was gunna post the effect after you posted if there was any interference from the recipients. Also, if you can't see her you can't know what spell has been cast with Spellcraft right? (My reading of da rules is that you have to see the caster and the the effect to get a Spellcraft check) next post initiative. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 09:44 PM | Are we using the "Newcomers Are Aware" rules, p. 23? stav |
| jagggar10-14-05, 09:51 PM | No, Silimna's not a newcomer since she just started the battle. Roll Init. I'll look into the spellcraft rules. MoF, What guilds is he a member of? I'm assuming the check was without the special modifiers? |
| Sssargoth10-14-05, 09:54 PM | For OOC purposes, could everyone please post the spells and effects currently active. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 10:07 PM | *chuckles* 4, Base (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161909) +4 = 8 |
| jagggar10-14-05, 10:17 PM | 25 Alanya 21 Kanosic 21 Ashariana and Minotaur 19 Sargatanas 12 Skartog 8 Silimna 5 Incarin We'll say the Imp (sorry, gotta learn his name) delays (at least until rolled) since he said he'll only join the battle if it goes bad for the baddies. Sorry if I got a name wrong. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 10:19 PM | 25 Alanya 21 Kanosic 21 Ashariana and Minotaur 19 Sargatanas 12 Skartog 8 Silimna 5 Incarin We'll say the Imp (sorry, gotta learn his name) delays (at least until rolled) since he said he'll only join the battle if it goes bad for the baddies. Sorry if I got a name wrong. @Reader Must run in the blood. *chuckles* Here, Oz Campaigns Silmarien is most often last or 2nd last in Init. Against the odds, way against them, prolly 8 outa 10 times. *blinks and pauses to dust dress, hence the 8 initiative* ;) |
| Master_of_Flames10-14-05, 10:24 PM | MoF, What guilds is he a member of? I'm assuming the check was without the special modifiers? he's in both the stormhand federation and the guild of ultimate evil, so he's heard of the fight going to happen for a while, just not the exact date. and only his ability modifier was used. (I'm not bothering to bring his cohort or private army in, we have to give sil atleast a small chance) |
| jagggar10-14-05, 10:33 PM | Drat, forgot another important question. What's the speed of fell flight? |
| Master_of_Flames10-14-05, 10:37 PM | for me, 30ft. So that means I can travel 120ft per six seconds and 1,200ft in 1 minute (or 10 rounds). |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 10:38 PM | he's in both the stormhand federation and the guild of ultimate evil, so he's heard of the fight going to happen for a while, just not the exact date. and only his ability modifier was used. (I'm not bothering to bring his cohort or private army in, we have to give sil atleast a small chance) *excellent!!!!* :) :) fly fast man! *a puddle of water gathers at Silimna's feet* (joking) |
| Master_of_Flames10-14-05, 10:42 PM | *a glowing green/orange orb forms in Li'ruaks hand as he flies* no holy symbol means no way to turn undead. or to have a focus for most divine spells. :P could just aim at your hair.... |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 10:42 PM | sorry jagggar, emptied my pm box (seem to be doing that a lot latey, us all *smiles*.) I'll hava tink 'bout how to do this with minimal PM and maximal efficiency for faster game play :) stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 10:48 PM | *a glowing green/orange orb forms in Li'ruaks hand as he flies* spellcraft check? (concetration) or something? *throws stale lembas at ya* |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 10:57 PM | Alanya and Kanosic pause and wait for a moment, seemingly following some sort of orders. They glance back at Drauguril and grin before looking back toward where the glow originated from. Alanya and Kanosic delay for the moment. *animates stale lembas as zombie bread* |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 11:11 PM | Save Data Sargatanas: B4 - 19 Alanya: B3 - 21 Minotaur: B5 - 30 (nice roll!) Skartog: A2 - 23 Drauguril: A3 Ashariana: A4 - 19 Kanosic: A5 I get Alanya+Minotaur+Skartog+Kanasoic as free Are we on the same page? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 11:13 PM | *animates stale lembas as zombie bread* *chuckles* - don't forget to add the Ode-De-Corpse as the special ingredient! |
| Master_of_Flames10-14-05, 11:14 PM | we should dump sil's body infront of the GoPG as an example. |
| Ashariana10-14-05, 11:21 PM | Drauguril turned toward the wall with his weapon in his hands. He pulled back and uleashed his full fury on the wall. Tearing at it like a man possessed with both blades of his sword. Damage to wall.... 14, 15, 13, 11, 17, 13 Elemental damage (does this apply?)... 3, 7, 9, 9, 10, 9 rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166852) Damage to wall (taking into account it's hardness): 35 With Elemental: 82 (need a ruling on that I guess?) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 11:26 PM | Drauguril turned toward the wall with his weapon in his hands. He pulled back and uleashed his full fury on the wall. Tearing at it like a man possessed with both blades of his sword. Damage to wall.... 14, 15, 13, 11, 17, 13 Elemental damage (does this apply?)... 3, 7, 9, 9, 10, 9 rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=166852) Damage to wall (taking into account it's hardness): 35 With Elemental: 82 (need a ruling on that I guess?) ...thence, as the stone sprang from the Earth, Alanaya, the Minotaur and Skartog doged the stone, jumping in front of the stone tomb. Their leering faces and fell flesh reared into the room, their dead eyes staring. Meanwhile, from within the stone tomb, guttural, fell cries found the defenders as mad, flailing blows smashed at the stone.... |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 11:27 PM | ...thence, as the stone sprang from the Earth, Alanaya, the Minotaur and Skartog doged the stone, jumping in front of the stone tomb. Their leering faces and fell flesh reared into the room, their dead eyes staring. Meanwhile, from within the stone tomb, guttural, fell cries found the defenders as mad, flailing blows smashed at the stone.... Yes, thank you, I think we can do our OWN roleplaying. |
| jagggar10-14-05, 11:28 PM | What element is it? |
| turalisj10-14-05, 11:30 PM | ...thence, as the stone sprang from the Earth, Alanaya, the Minotaur and Skartog doged the stone, jumping in front of the stone tomb. Their leering faces and fell flesh reared into the room, their dead eyes staring. Meanwhile, from within the stone tomb, guttural, fell cries found the defenders as mad, flailing blows smashed at the stone.... *begins beating sil with an anti-godmoder stick* pm sent to you jagger with an idea for a guild challenge. |
| Ashariana10-14-05, 11:30 PM | What element is it? 3 fire, 3 cold |
| Sssargoth10-14-05, 11:34 PM | ...thence, as the stone sprang from the Earth, Alanaya, the Minotaur and Skartog doged the stone, jumping in front of the stone tomb. Their leering faces and fell flesh reared into the room, their dead eyes staring. Meanwhile, from within the stone tomb, guttural, fell cries found the defenders as mad, flailing blows smashed at the stone.... *thwack* No RPing other people! :mad: |
| turalisj10-14-05, 11:39 PM | :noway: You took my line, after I posted. it. bad red dragon. *rolls up a newspaper and swats sssargoth, then runs off to look for drow to eat* |
| premier66610-14-05, 11:42 PM | ...like a man possessed... More like "like a man under mental control". That would be more exact :weep: |
| Sssargoth10-14-05, 11:43 PM | :noway: You took my line, after I posted. it. bad red dragon. *rolls up a newspaper and swats sssargoth, then runs off to look for drow to eat* yeah, but Im a GM. My word is law around here. :D *torches turalisj's ass as he runs away* |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 11:44 PM | Anyway... can we let the people fightin get on with the fight? Whats the word on that Thrall's elemental damage? Does it effect the wall (thus freeing us). |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 11:46 PM | where's Zik's body? RP one can describe what one hear's from one's point of view. And that's what was heard, seen, viewed or understood - As seen through mine own our eyes - as the battle unfolded and as recorded in the Anals of the Peredhil...... *smiles* - another hint for the bad guyz stav |
| Sargatanas10-14-05, 11:49 PM | where's Zik's body? RP one can describe what one hear's from one's point of view. And that's what Silimna heard - As seen through mine own our eyes - as the battle unfoled and as recorded in the Anals of the Peredhil...... *smiles* - another hint for the bad guyz stav Zik's body is buried under stone at Sargatanas' feet. Its never right to make another character take actions. Forcing an emotion upon them, telling them what they feel or do, its bad roleplaying. You have control of YOU and thats it. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 11:51 PM | of course it's never right! That's why it's based on what you chose. :) It's in the passive voice! :) |
| Sssargoth10-14-05, 11:53 PM | The elemental damage doesnt affect the wall. I would have said it did if it was sonic damage. |
| premier66610-14-05, 11:54 PM | Yeah, thats right sil. This is not your campaign here. This, is our campaign. Of all of us. That means, each plays its own role into make this a rich story. By RPin another, you take their own oportunity to make their own tale. |
| turalisj10-14-05, 11:55 PM | sil- I forbid you to take zik's body. As I told jagger, I already have something planned. So don't think about it or my character will personaly come here. Not to help, but to rip you limb from limb. :mad: |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-14-05, 11:58 PM | who's initiative round is it? |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:06 AM | who's initiative round is it? I think we're still waiting to hear if the elemental damage applies or not... I'd think it does somethin, goin from hot to cold, hot to cold, hot to cold and whatever. |
| turalisj10-15-05, 12:07 AM | sssargoth said no. so I guess it doesn't. *gets to work on his second dragon* |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:09 AM | sil- I forbid you to take zik's body. As I told jagger, I already have something planned. So don't think about it or my character will personaly come here. Not to help, but to rip you limb from limb. :mad: I thought you may have wanted your PC back, and I was just trying to help. Not that Silimna would know that you have something planned - just that a good elf died and may need help. anyhowz, I'll leave you where you are, then. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:15 AM | Yeah, thats right sil. This is not your campaign here. This, is our campaign. Of all of us. That means, each plays its own role into make this a rich story. By RPin another, you take their own oportunity to make their own tale. never said it was mine. :) Any PC can say what they said and heard that another chose, through their own eyes. Anyone who wants can say what Silimna chose, from their point of view too. Why don't the evil ones say stuff like and then she skulked cowardly towards us, but we were unafraid for example? *looks at you all with incredulity (means *scratches head*)* @premeir anyhowz - do ya want ya butt saved? If not, you'd better PM me and lemme know. stav |
| Wilds10-15-05, 12:17 AM | never said it was mine. :) Any PC can say what they said and heard that another chose, through their own eyes. Anyone who wants can say what Silimna chose, from their point of view too. Why don't the evil ones say stuff like and then she skulked cowardly towards us, but we were unafraid for example? *looks at you all with incredulity (means *scratches head*)* anyhowz - do ya want ya butt saved? If not, you'd better PM me and lemme know. stav Cause it would be much more amusing to blast your char mind with psionics thats why. But im not Incarin looks down. "Stone? What does stone do?" |
| jagggar10-15-05, 12:24 AM | Overruling Sssargoth because of pg 165 PHB Divide the fire damage by 2, then reduce by hardness. Divide the cold damage by 4, then reduce by hardness. Sorry guys, my computer picked a bad time to freeze. |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 12:27 AM | The wall suddenly begins to melt away from the inside as a green energy/liquid begins to pour down and melt away part of the wall. Ashariana stands beyond the wall, her staff raised toward it. She lowers it and smiles sweetly making a motion toward the other end of the stone dome and taking a step back to allow passage. Acid Damage: 47 (which should eat right through stone, it even says in the PHB acid usually deals full damage, along with Sonic) That should be my turn, time for the other people to act (Sargatana's other people). Since none of the fire/cold overcame hardness anyway... it doesn't really matter I guess. |
| jagggar10-15-05, 12:27 AM | never said it was mine. :) Any PC can say what they said and heard that another chose, through their own eyes. Anyone who wants can say what Silimna chose, from their point of view too. Why don't the evil ones say stuff like and then she skulked cowardly towards us, but we were unafraid for example? *looks at you all with incredulity (means *scratches head*)*Such things happen when they retell the story. I'd suggest holding off on descriptions in that way until after the battle is over. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:32 AM | The wall suddenly begins to melt away from the inside as a green energy/liquid begins to pour down and melt away part of the wall. Ashariana stands beyond the wall, her staff raised toward it. She lowers it and smiles sweetly making a motion toward the other end of the stone dome and taking a step back to allow passage. From the Peredhil Narrator's point of view - and based on what Ashariana chose ...to The Peredhil, the smile was like the smiling assassin. It was a smile that was to shudder at. For it was fell and she sought to main and kill, Silimna, who had, with courage, gone into the Throne Room, to rescue a friend. For she was a brave woman, and some said stupid. As the wall began to meld in smoke and acid, making gathering, whispy puddles on the floor, Silimna..... are we clear for my next action? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:33 AM | Such things happen when they retell the story. I'd suggest holding off on descriptions in that way until after the battle is over. .....just saw this, hang on.... |
| turalisj10-15-05, 12:34 AM | I need a reply to my pm before I get started on the next dragon.... |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:36 AM | From the Peredhil Narrator's point of view - and based on what Ashariana chose ...to The Peredhil, the smile was like the smiling assassin. It was a smile that was to shudder at. For it was fell and she sought to main and kill, Silimna, who had, with courage, gone into the Throne Room, to rescue a friend. For she was a brave woman, and some said stupid. As the wall began to meld in smoke and acid, making gathering, whispy puddles on the floor, Silimna..... are we clear for my next action? We aint done yet, we're just getting started! It's my turns now... lets hear a chant of 'kill the witch, kill the witch' folks! *actions coming up in a few seconds* |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:43 AM | Sargatanas steps into the opening in the stone wall and holds up his hands as he exits with a laugh. "Miss me folks!?" He walks over and stops beside Alanya, reaching out and placing a hand upon her back he speaks a few words. When he finishes her eyes flash for a moment and she smiles. "Peek-a-boo, I seeeeeee yoooooouuu..." Sargatanas moves out of the stone area to B2. He casts True Seeing on Alanya (who still hasnt taken her turn). So once I know your position I can finish up all my turns. Fffffffuuuuuuun tiiiiiime. |
| Wilds10-15-05, 12:44 AM | :doh: i need to relearn to think before i type again.... |
| turalisj10-15-05, 12:48 AM | yay! kill her! have her drawn and quartered then send each of her limbs to a diffrent goo aligned guild! :D |
| jagggar10-15-05, 12:49 AM | Umm, double check, what size is Skartog? If large, then Sargatanas can't move to B2 since Skartog will be taking up A1-B2. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:50 AM | Umm, double check, what size is Skartog? If large, then Sargatanas can't move to B2 since Skartog will be taking up A1-B2. Good point, make it C4 (how strangely appropriate...) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:54 AM | Good point, make it C4 (how strangely appropriate...) AoO incoming - no Defensive Casting check - and there's a whole in the wall. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:56 AM | AoO incoming - no Defensive Casting check - and there's a whole in the wall. Don't need a check, my concentration is +18. |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:00 AM | Does it matter that Sargatanas was in Skartog's square? Thats what Skartog DOES. Hes a bodyguard, he defends people who are in his square with him. |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:01 AM | You still should have announced defensive casting. |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:02 AM | Does it matter that Sargatanas was in Skartog's square? Thats what Skartog DOES. Hes a bodyguard, he defends people who are in his square with him. Unless there are some funky bodyguard rules that I don't know about, you can't be in a square someone else is occupying. |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:04 AM | Unless there are some funky bodyguard rules that I don't know about, you can't be in a square someone else is occupying. His bodyguard feat lets him stand in the same square as someone else and grant them various benefits from his different feats for defending people... |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:09 AM | Sorry, didn't know that. Would you mind sending me some info on that? Back to B2 then I guess. |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:11 AM | Sorry, didn't know that. Would you mind sending me some info on that? Back to B2 then I guess. Alright, I'll type them up for you and send it to you, might take a bit though. |
| Wilds10-15-05, 01:18 AM | Sorry Sil, didnt mean for it to cause that much pain. :blush: |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:22 AM | Sorry Sil, didnt mean for it to cause that much pain. :blush: :embarrass: + :cool: tanx, Wilds. @Body Guard Rules can they absorb AoO for Spellcasting? don't forget, I'm invisible |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:28 AM | :embarrass: + :cool: tanx, Wilds. @Body Guard Rules can they absorb AoO for Spellcasting? don't forget, I'm invisible Simple answer, yes. |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:30 AM | Hard question: Can he do so while he's still flat-footed? |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:31 AM | Hard question: Can he do so while he's still flat-footed? Uhm... I suppose not... but if Silimna is that close, then how would we not be hearing her? |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:33 AM | If I knew that I could stand in his space I'd be in A2. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:39 AM | Uhm... I suppose not... but if Silimna is that close, then how would we not be hearing her? it's for jagggar, but, i'da thought, that just like Defensive Casting, you need to declare it. In this way, the defender can forego (do away with) the need to do the concentration check. but the spirit of Defensive Casting is that it's treated like a special-prep thing. I'd guess you'd transfer the special-prep to the body-guard, but that you still need to declare it. stav |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:40 AM | You're considered flat-footed until you take your first action in combat. And we haven't gotten to Skartog's initative count yet, so he'd be flat-footed still. If I knew that I could stand in his space I'd be in A2.Now this just gets weird. . . Where is Alanya? Personally, I don't think she could be in B3 anymore because she was able to escape the Wall. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:41 AM | Uh... I really don't know if she can't be there, because if she had to move to another square, shes probably in the same one as silimna. But that doesn't work... this whole thing is just suddenly really complicated... my head hurts. |
| Demonfey10-15-05, 01:41 AM | Where'd you find that feat, anyway? I may be able to find it in one of the books if its there...need to work on my control of buying new errata... Also, owowowoWOWOWOWOW! |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:44 AM | Where'd you find that feat, anyway? I may be able to find it in one of the books if its there...need to work on my control of buying new errata... Also, owowowoWOWOWOWOW! Quintisential wizard. I figured it was alright since I was ya know... approved without any mention of it. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:45 AM | also, given the odds, I reckon it should err in favour of the less powered party. Hi there Demonfey! :) stav |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:45 AM | Ash, there a limit on how many people he can share his square(s) with? Alanya could've moved to B2 (and shared a square with Skartog), C3, or C4. Quintisential wizard. I figured it was alright since I was ya know... approved without any mention of it.*anime falldown* |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:45 AM | also, given the odds, I reckon it should err in favour of the less powered party. Hi there Demonfey! :) stav Aka you, leave it to the GMs. |
| Demonfey10-15-05, 01:46 AM | Quintisential wizard. I figured it was alright since I was ya know... approved without any mention of it. That would be Sssargoth's doing...before I was ready to approve your character, I wanted to make sure the blooded thing was approved. I hadn't even looked at the bodyguard at the time...this is exactly why I'm going through approved characters and double checking them Monday (drove straight from college to house tonight, total time 5 hours, 30 minutes (ish), didn't get out of said car at any time during said amount of time, Saturday and Sunday for spending time with family, running some errands, etc.) |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:47 AM | Ash, there a limit on how many people he can share his square(s) with? Alanya could've moved to B2 (and shared a square with Skartog), C3, or C4. Well... I guess its up to you where you wanna put us. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:50 AM | Aka you, leave it to the GMs. yes. That goes for all, but our thoughts on it are okay. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:52 AM | Aka you, leave it to the GMs. does the Feat need a move-equiv to enter into same square? 'cause we had PC maps, on the run-in to the melee. stav |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:55 AM | does the Feat need a move-equiv to enter into same square? 'cause we had PC maps, on the run-in to the melee. stav No, he can defend anybody in his square... though he may have to take an action to defend them. I think we should just wait until Jagggar decideds where we are... |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:59 AM | No, he can defend anybody in his square... though he may have to take an action to defend them. I think we should just wait until Jagggar decideds where we are... thanx + :cool: |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:59 AM | Okay, in my mind, Alanya moved to C3. For ease of figuring things out, we'll just put Sargatanas at C4 since Skartog couldn't grant him any bonuses at this point anyway. If my calculations are correct, Silimna gets an AoO at +14 (BAB, unnamed spell, invisible) against Sargatanas' AC of 18 (lose Dex bonus from invis.oppt.). |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:03 AM | Okay, in my mind, Alanya moved to C3. For ease of figuring things out, we'll just put Sargatanas at C4 since Skartog couldn't grant him any bonuses at this point anyway. If my calculations are correct, Silimna gets an AoO at +14 (BAB, unnamed spell, invisible) against Sargatanas' AC of 18 (lose Dex bonus from invis.oppt.). That seems like too much reach to me, but thats what happens when your enemy is created just to kill you. |
| Zombomaniac10-15-05, 02:05 AM | Ok I just got here. I read through every thing and rolled initative. Rolled under HiroHito. (http://invisiblecastle.com/rolldice.py) The imps name. I got a 20. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:09 AM | That seems like too much reach to me, but thats what happens when your enemy is created just to kill you. from silimna's perspective, you are her enemy. @jaggar :cool: okay..... |
| jagggar10-15-05, 02:10 AM | Ok I just got here. I read through every thing and rolled initative. Rolled under HiroHito. (http://invisiblecastle.com/rolldice.py) The imps name. I got a 20.Cool. 25 Alanya 21 Kanosic 21 Ashariana and Minotaur 20 HiroHito 19 Sargatanas <-- You are now. 12 Skartog 8 Silimna 5 Incarin Currently, Alanya, Kanosic, and HiroHito are delaying. (Though Alanya problably won't be once we get this straightened out.) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:11 AM | Okay, in my mind, Alanya moved to C3. For ease of figuring things out, we'll just put Sargatanas at C4 since Skartog couldn't grant him any bonuses at this point anyway. If my calculations are correct, Silimna gets an AoO at +14 (BAB, unnamed spell, invisible) against Sargatanas' AC of 18 (lose Dex bonus from invis.oppt.). +3 (Str mod - but only DM knows why, -2, size mod) - um, lemme tink if i missed anyting. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:11 AM | from silimna's perspective, you are her enemy. @jaggar :cool: okay..... The term... captain obvious comes to mind... |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:13 AM | @sargantanas - call me lawful stupid if you like. @jagggar - +4 Str, if I calc right, right? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:19 AM | ....here's an unmodified roll - to start with 6 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161910) *whistles - plus jumps up and calls yes* |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:19 AM | I suddenly find myself wondering how Silimna is invisible since invisibility is not on the cleric list, and if it was something else (like hide from undead), then Skartog would see him (being... NOT undead), as would Drauguril... |
| Zombomaniac10-15-05, 02:20 AM | I suddenly find myself wondering how Silimna is invisible since invisibility is not on the cleric list, and if it was something else (like hide from undead), then Skartog would see him (being... NOT undead), as would Drauguril... and the Imp. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:24 AM | @sarg aka - leave it to the DM. also, it was Sargantanas who was doing the True Seeing thing, I forget? stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:25 AM | @sarg aka - leave it to the DM. also, it was Sargantanas who was doing the True Seeing thing, I forget? stav Its all posted right up there, all you gotta do is scroll. I do leave it to the GMs, but this secrecy makes me think your trying to hide something, because I don't really trust you. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:32 AM | Its all posted right up there, all you gotta do is scroll. I do leave it to the GMs, but this secrecy makes me think your trying to hide something, because I don't really trust you. I'll live. Hang on - scrolling.... You see the ephemeral, transparent vision of Silmarien, in the room. She looks out to you with her discerning gaze, and she hums and concentrates and a quill draws upon the page, with silvery-blue incandescent script. "we are with you Silimna though we cannot aid directly - Hold cousin!" You can see the writing on the page as it comes to life by Silmarien's hand.... ...and thence, a great blade came crashing down upon the enemy as the Undead cast their fell spells[/color] post dice, next post (gotta scroll back page - sorry everyone). :) |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:34 AM | Oh for the love of god get on with it! |
| jagggar10-15-05, 02:36 AM | +3 (Str mod - but only DM knows why, -2, size mod) - um, lemme tink if i missed anyting. I get a +4 Str which is a +2 Mod and a -1 Size. Invisible is +2. BAB is 11. Totals to 11+2-1+2=+14 Roll of 6+14=20 Hits AC 18 So we don't take too much time figuring out damage, It's 2d6+2 and I'll let you announce the nasty suprise. And for some reason there's now a cookie in it for anyone who can create a parody of the Brady Bunch theme that somehow has to do with this battle. Post it in Players' Lounge (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=387473) though. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:40 AM | here's the 2d6+2 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161911) (10) hang on for the RP and the rest.... |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:41 AM | I get a +4 Str which is a +2 Mod and a -1 Size. Invisible is +2. BAB is 11. Totals to 11+2-1+2=+14 Roll of 6+14=20 Hits AC 18 So we don't take too much time figuring out damage, It's 2d6+2 and I'll let you announce the nasty suprise. And for some reason there's now a cookie in it for anyone who can create a parody of the Brady Bunch theme that somehow has to do with this battle. Post it in Players' Lounge (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=387473) though. Good, maybe we can get on with this then. I wanna say much more, but thats just the anger at this unbelievable ********... |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:49 AM | Good, maybe we can get on with this then. I wanna say much more, but thats just the anger at this unbelievable ********... In a wide sweeping arc, the blade comes down. Deep into the Undead flesh it bites, threatening the very sinew of the Undead - disrupting the flesh. Tendrils of magical energy claw at it's flesh Roll a Will Save (for what it's worth) DC=10+21 (I think that's all the modifiers) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:51 AM | here's the 2d6+2 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161911) (10) hang on for the RP and the rest.... @jagggar any other Strength Modifiers?? stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:53 AM | Will save is 26 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167728) Concentration check is: 25 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167729) So my spell goes off anyway... |
| jagggar10-15-05, 02:53 AM | No other Str mods. In a wide sweeping arc, the blade comes down. Deep into the Undead flesh it bites, threatening the very sinew of the Undead - disrupting the flesh. Tendrils of magical energy claw at it's flesh Roll a Will Save (for what it's worth) DC=10+21 (I think that's all the modifiers) Where do you get 10+21(=31) I only get 21 total. Or is that a mistype? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:56 AM | No other Str mods. Where do you get 10+21(=31) I only get 21 total. Or is that a mistype? (re: Str - 18 = +4, no? or 16 +3) mistype. s/be 10+5+6=21 |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:58 AM | So now I need to know where Silimna is... so I can finally get on with my turn. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 02:59 AM | So now I need to know where Silimna is... so I can finally get on with my turn. just two more secs, Sarg, checking somethin'. |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 03:02 AM | Congratulations Silmarien... this has been the absolute longest AOO I have EVER witnessed... :P |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 03:03 AM | Congratulations Silmarien... this has been the absolute longest AOO I have EVER witnessed... :P :embarrass: I know - *mutters* damned things, which this system was hollographic |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 03:07 AM | Will save is 26 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167728) Concentration check is: 25 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167729) So my spell goes off anyway... 'ang on - DC=10+5(Cl)or+6(Wz)+12=27 or 28 spell fizzles, no? stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 03:08 AM | 'ang on - DC=10+5(Cl)or+6(Wz)+12=27 or 28 spell fizzles, no? stav What are you talking about? |
| jagggar10-15-05, 03:11 AM | Few dozen rounds please. We're having issues agreeing on the Str bonus. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 03:12 AM | Few dozen rounds please. We're having issues agreeing on the Str bonus. I'd rather just stick with the first listed DC so we can just get on with this. If he doesnt know his own character he shouldn't be playing it... |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 03:38 AM | I can't wait any longer, I'm going to sleep... |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 03:47 AM | no worry. @all the publication data of Tomes differs, for v3.5 for a spell. Hence the discrepancy. There's a 1800 number I quoted in my PM to the GM *cracks* the witches in the britches of the court of king karactacus *pulls it together* can one of you US citizens please ring them and ask if where else the products differ in their contents, trans-pacific. ta stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 03:48 AM | good evenin' to yaz *vanishes in flash of blue and silver* |
| jagggar10-15-05, 04:09 AM | Very sorry that took so long guys. (And I'll probably be even more sorry in the morning.) Looked at an online SRD. Checked the offical WotC SRD and became even more confused. Checked the errata and now problem solved. Phew. . . Of course you'd want to stick with the first DC. You made that one. :P After all that searching, found that that is the correct DC. Review: Sargatanas casts spell on Alanya. Silimna AoO hits and Sar keeps concentation. (And all undead can sense her through any non-visual means they might have.) Alanya can now see Sil. Alanya sees a really big elf at C1-D2 which is where the holy light is coming from. I'm guessing she will stop delaying now. After that, it's Skartog followed by Silimna. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 05:33 AM | it's quite okay jagggar. Could I just thank you for being so patient and well mannered. :) It's got to take time, sometimes. Even live D&D gets slow when it comes time to number crunch. thank you for all your hard work! also, could I refer us to p.64 PHB, under heading Favourable and Unfavourable Conditions and DMG, p. 30 Skill and Ability Checks player request to check for penalties to Concentration Check - given circumstances. thanx in advance, stavros :) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 06:40 AM | That would be Sssargoth's doing...before I was ready to approve your character, I wanted to make sure the blooded thing was approved. I hadn't even looked at the bodyguard at the time...this is exactly why I'm going through approved characters and double checking them Monday (drove straight from college to house tonight, total time 5 hours, 30 minutes (ish), didn't get out of said car at any time during said amount of time, Saturday and Sunday for spending time with family, running some errands, etc.) got another one for ya, incoming. Sounds like a long drive! stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 06:42 AM | Uh... I really don't know if she can't be there, because if she had to move to another square, shes probably in the same one as silimna. But that doesn't work... this whole thing is just suddenly really complicated... my head hurts. gross ;) |
| premier66610-15-05, 07:17 AM | Go sil go! :cheer: *claers his throat* Anyway. I never saw a battle so complicated. :eek: Anyway, even if Sil wants to hide whatever spell combo he used, jaggar knows what sil is doing, then you should be ok, after all, she is a DM, and the only one who really need to know. Edit: just saw that: It is not important that you dont trust sil. No PC has to show anything to other PC. For all that matters, he could even hide his own name! |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 07:23 AM | Go sil go! :cheer: *claers his throat* Anyway. I never saw a battle so complicated. :eek: Anyway, even if Sil wants to hide whatever spell combo he used, jaggar knows what sil is doing, then you should be ok, after all, she is a DM, and the only one who really need to know. Edit: just saw that: It is not important that you dont trust sil. No PC has to show anything to other PC. For all that matters, he could even hide his own name! I can't say how appreciative I am of this. tank 'ou premier. It's been really hard work, being outpowered so much, with people who want to eat my liver for breakfast. *sighs* stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 09:29 AM | @jagggar check hotmail, jagggs - ta stav |
| Wilds10-15-05, 11:40 AM | Go sil go! :cheer: *claers his throat* Anyway. I never saw a battle so complicated. :eek: Anyway, even if Sil wants to hide whatever spell combo he used, jaggar knows what sil is doing, then you should be ok, after all, she is a DM, and the only one who really need to know. Edit: just saw that: It is not important that you dont trust sil. No PC has to show anything to other PC. For all that matters, he could even hide his own name! that mean we can just start dropping spells and other fun stuff on random peopel that we see wlaking down the road? Like go to some random guild cause hazoc and them not even know it was someone? |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 11:45 AM | Seeing the elf Alanya grinned and hopped back a step or two. Revealing the orb she had been concealing she hurls it in the direction of the large elf. The small iron sphere exands and encirlces the elf, binding her fast and preventing her from moving. Alanya smiles as do the other undead as the band constrict around the invisible form. Alanya hurls a set of Iron Bands of Bilarro at Silimna. Ranged Touch: 30 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167790) You are bound by the iron bands. If Kanosic and the Minotaur can effectively see her (since she has big iron bars holding her tightly. Can they also go after her without problem? (Since Kanosic delayed and the Mino still needs to go). |
| jagggar10-15-05, 12:40 PM | I'm not particularly sure about this. Someone who doesn't have a state in the battle, please pop in. If the 50% miss chance is because you can't see the target, then the bands should effectively allow them see where the target is. If it's because you can't see how the target is moving to predict the target's next move, it's null because the target isn't moving. I calculate helpless AC to be 19 vs. Ranged, 15 vs. Melee. So we don't get too confused and arguing about it (in case I'm not able to get on for a while), Silimna has DR 9/evil and DR 5/magic. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:46 PM | Hello Sargantanas, welcome to the day. 'can I be seen' by Alanya, needs a post for the player request, I think, first up. And if she throws it next, some spellcraft checks I'll roll here - for the obvious ...and Silimna discerned the magical forces hurled at her from the vile Undead, with the Lorecrafty mind of the Drow, but imbued with the intuitive sense the Elves have for nature and its enemies... 19 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161914) base. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:48 PM | Hello Sargantanas, welcome to the day. 'can I be seen' by Alanya, needs a post for the player request, I think, first up. And if she throws it next, some spellcraft checks I'll roll here - for the obvious ...and Silimna discerned the magical forces hurled at her from the vile Undead, with the Lorecrafty mind of the Drow, but imbued with the intuitive sense the Elves have for nature and its enemies... 19 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161914) base. Yes you can be seen, she has true seeing on her now. I guess that would give away the spell but you didn't roll high enough. You can be seen quite easily by her. The item hurled isn't a spell, so spellcraft does nothing. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 12:57 PM | wait, concentration is 24 - add in the con bonus (not the int bonus) onto the score on my pc (<->) tot: 19 +24, for completeness. also, I've requested someting, down bottom, last page, of dm, for the invisibility. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 12:58 PM | wait, concentration is 24 - add in the con bonus (not the int bonus) onto the score on my pc (<->) tot: 19 +24, for completeness. also, I've requested someting, down bottom, last page, of dm, for the invisibility. Alright... whatever the hell thats for... it doesn't change what just happened. |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:01 PM | Assuming the spellcraft check is to recognize True Seeing, Silimna does. She can't counter or such because she does not have a readied action to counter. I'm not sure what the concentration check is for either. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:03 PM | Alright... whatever the hell thats for... it doesn't change what just happened. also, thank you for naming the magic item, Sargantanas. This doesn't need to be hard. Let's have some fun, shall we. - I can't be here long, it's very late here am. also, not to be difficult, but I'm asking if your concentration was downwardly adjusted upstream by -2 in the AoO DC. There was acid, a confined space, people all together, fussing about which square to go where in, and fizzling stone. Acid smoke. Enough for a -2, ida thought :) if so, I'm still invisible, to Alanya. stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:05 PM | also, thank you for naming the magic item, Sargantanas. This doesn't need to be hard. Let's have some fun, shall we. - I can't be here long, it's very late here am. also, not to be difficult, but I'm asking if your concentration was downwardly adjusted upstream by -2 in the AoO DC. There was acid, a confined space, people all together, fussing about which square to go where in, and fizzling stone. Acid smoke. Enough for a -2, ida thought :) if so, I'm still invisible, to Alanya. stav The hole isn't sitting next to me, its back a bit beside Drauguril. So there isn't acid, and there isn't smoke or a confined space. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:06 PM | well roll yer attacks then, it ain't my turn yet! *grabs apple* *crunches* |
| jagggar10-15-05, 01:07 PM | AC and DR is above, or maybe on the last page, don't know anymore. I'll be gone for awhile. I've currently got 6 spots open on my inbox just to warn people. |
| turalisj10-15-05, 01:08 PM | *pressure grenade in apple explodes* *another one bites the dust plays in the background* :D music is always a good thing. and it's so appropriate. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:10 PM | it'sa nice apple... okay, also, DC for spells with Somatic Components (not verbal - which are unaffected) - in anticipation of need downstream, in this cage thing. stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:11 PM | Kanosic and the Minotaur grin and move to the bound form, they reach their fangs forth and dig them into the flesh of the invisible creature. Sucking the life blood from her veins. Auto-grapple for Silimna being helpless, digging their fangs into her where they feel her at and draining blood. Each drains 1 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167801) point of con from Silimna. Also, no somantic spells can be used, you are helpless, there isn't even a check I dont believe. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:13 PM | grossness whose turn? |
| turalisj10-15-05, 01:15 PM | I think sargantas is going to have a growing army.... with sil as a new recruit. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:18 PM | I think sargantas is going to have a growing army.... with sil as a new recruit. it wouldn't be the first time Silimna was in this predicament, turalisj, but not so fast, and not today. Whose turn ? also, technically Sarg, two will saves (one's only DC=17, but other one is DC=24, for the Holy Aura, okay, and the 17 for protection from evil) stav |
| premier66610-15-05, 01:18 PM | I think sargantas is going to have a growing army.... with sil as a new recruit. I think thats gonna happen. Hell, I never thought of using that kind of item. Sargatanas, I'm begining to think its easier to kill myself, then to try to face your army. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:21 PM | it's a DC of 20 for Grapple or Pinned, i believe. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:22 PM | I think thats gonna happen. Hell, I never thought of using that kind of item. Sargatanas, I'm begining to think its easier to kill myself, then to try to face your army. hold onto your britches, Premier - it's not that bad. *grins* |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:24 PM | it wouldn't be the first time Silimna was in this predicament, turalisj, but not so fast, and not today. Whose turn ? also, technically Sarg, two will saves (one's only DC=17, but other one is DC=24, for the Holy Aura, okay, and the 17 for protection from evil) stav Nope. Holy Arua can only blind them, and they're undead. Theres nothing about pushing someone away. Also, you aren't grappled or pinned (well, you are) but you are ALSO helpless. You cannot move your arms at all. No somantic spellcasting. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:24 PM | does your minotaur do anything sargantanas? |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:26 PM | does your minotaur do anything sargantanas? He... bit you. You lost 2 con, one from each of them. Also, it isn't your turn yet. Skartog still has to go (Ashariana's Cohort). |
| premier66610-15-05, 01:26 PM | hold onto your britches, Premier - it's not that bad. *grins* *Smaks own head at the wall in desperation* _ow! that hurts! |
| turalisj10-15-05, 01:30 PM | have them rip her arms out. I think it's a dc 25 strength check to rip someones arm out of thier socket. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:32 PM | Nope. Holy Arua can only blind them, and they're undead. Theres nothing about pushing someone away. Also, you aren't grappled or pinned (well, you are) but you are ALSO helpless. You cannot move your arms at all. No somantic spellcasting. It only says "immobile" first up, not helpless - not that I care, but there's also Ending a Spell, if I so choose. when's she due back? |
| turalisj10-15-05, 01:32 PM | I think thats gonna happen. Hell, I never thought of using that kind of item. Sargatanas, I'm begining to think its easier to kill myself, then to try to face your army. that's why I have a pair of battle dragons and can someone an adult battle dragon at a moments notice. Then there's my spells that can deal damage not only to outsiders, but to undead aswell. I would have made a sacred purifier, but memorising spells is too much of a hassle. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:34 PM | It only says "immobile" first up, not helpless - not that I care, but there's also Ending a Spell, if I so choose. when's she due back? Bound = Helpless, take a look at the description of helpless in the back of the PHB. As for Ashariana, who knows. I left her a message but between WoW and whatever else it is she does... *shrugs* |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:35 PM | have them rip her arms out. I think it's a dc 25 strength check to rip someones arm out of thier socket. *looks at Premier* hold on - say three Hail Mary's! *chants 'em* |
| turalisj10-15-05, 01:36 PM | well, if she does WoW (world of warcraft) then we will have to wait about 12 hours for her to get off. The people I know that play the game are so addicted that the only times you can get them off is when the need to use the bathrrom or eat. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:40 PM | it says "immobile" not bound in my spell desc. Is there an errata for this one too? But it doesn't really matter - also - the helpless description fits closest with a DC=20, base for Defensive Casting for somatic components (see Concentration). Is Ash likely to do something other than let you eat up helpless elven women? |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 01:43 PM | Skartog approaches the helpless woman and lifts his sword above his head. Holding it there he prepares himself to strike down swiftly. Skartog readys an action. |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:45 PM | it says "immobile" not bound in my spell desc. Is there an errata for this one too? But it doesn't really matter - also - the helpless description fits closest with a DC=20, base for Defensive Casting for somatic components (see Concentration). Is Ash likely to do something other than let you eat up helpless elven women? No, that says Grappled or Pinned = DC 20. You are bound, under the description of Helpless in the little glossary in the BACK of the PHB it says bound as what helpless is. That is what I'm talkin about, not concentration. |
| premier66610-15-05, 01:49 PM | *looks at Premier* hold on - say three Hail Mary's! *chants 'em* Sil, if you make any hand jokes I'm gonna make BM teleport here and fireball everybody to hell. ;) |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:54 PM | Presumably, one can move, at least to wriggle, at least to bust the bonds, with break bonds, DC 30 You only need to be able to move a finger or so. For a spell that is. @Ashariana - good morning! That's all I need. 20 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161916) unmodified roll for spellcraft (defensive), prep + Spellcraft Ranks and Word of Recall Spellcraft, Base (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161917) + Spellcraft Ranks And the ephemeral form of Silmarien calls to her cousin "thou art brave heart. Thou hast been through this before, with Anglar the Fell. Do not quail Silimna - you will prevail and we will not abandon you. Recall you Faith and Find Home. And the Quill moves rapidly on the Tome in front of Silmarien, as the tip makes scratching sounds on the parchment... Now!" ...and thence she called her Faith and named the Hallowed Word for Home, and the word.... Farnė! ...and she vanished in a flash of Blue and Silver. Her words were heard on the Wind on the heels of her feet.... "for a woman helpless, Sargantanas is that which I am not. And no love is there to give when one is bound and shackled. It is not what you need. Draguril!! *hold* - do not despair" |
| turalisj10-15-05, 01:55 PM | Everybody give sil a hand for trying to beat the undead. :D btw, that wasn't a joke in my last post. that was an honest suggestion. If you rip out the arms of any character, they are likely to have a far less chance at defeating you. let aloe hitting you. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 01:57 PM | Everybody give sil a hand for trying to beat the undead. :D btw, that wasn't a joke in my last post. that was an honest suggestion. If you rip out the arms of any character, they are likely to have a far less chance at defeating you. let aloe hitting you. hey, thanx, if you mean it! I appreciate it, turalisj stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 01:58 PM | Presumably, one can move, at least to wriggle, at least to bust the bonds, with break bonds, DC 30 You only need to be able to move a finger or so. For a spell that is. @Ashariana - good morning! That's all I need. 20 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161916) unmodified roll for spellcraft (defensive), prep + Spellcraft Ranks and Word of Recall Spellcraft, Base (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Silimna#161917) + Spellcraft Ranks And the ephemeral form of Silmarien calls to her cousin "thou art brave heart. Thou hast been through this before, with Anglar the Fell. Do not quail Silimna - you will prevail and we will not abandon you. Recall you Faith and Find Home. And the Quill moves rapidly on the Tome in front of Silmarien, as the tip makes scratching sounds on the parchment... Now!" ...and thence she called her Faith and named the Hallowed Word for Home, and the word.... Farnė! ...and she vanished in a flash of Blue and Silver. Her words were heard on the Wind on the heels of her feet.... "for a woman helpless, Sargantanas is that which I am not. And no love is there to give when one is bound and shackled. It is not what you need. Draguril!! *hold* - do not despair" Since you say you CAN cast a spell, and I say you can't. I'd say we need a GM to decide for us. Because I'm never going to accept you just poofing away like that despite all the objections I've just made. Also, Jagggar herself said that you are helpless. Read up a bit to where she states your "helpless" AC. |
| Sssargoth10-15-05, 02:09 PM | Since you say you CAN cast a spell, and I say you can't. I'd say we need a GM to decide for us. Because I'm never going to accept you just poofing away like that despite all the objections I've just made. Also, Jagggar herself said that you are helpless. Read up a bit to where she states your "helpless" AC. Word of Recal only has a verbal component to it, and I assume you can talk while bound with the Iron Bands of Ballario. :D The bands went with Silmna tho. Who knows, maby she wont be able to get out of them and starve to death... |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 02:12 PM | Word of Recal only has a verbal component to it, and I assume you can talk while bound with the Iron Bands of Ballario. :D The bands went with Silmna tho. Who knows, maby she wont be able to get out of them and starve to death... What... my bands went with her? No no no, we arent doing that... |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:14 PM | Ah, but apparently you used Word of Recall (hard to tell in that mass of roleplay that seemingly has nothing to do with Silimna). Now, if thats over, I'd like to get on with my life and not have to wait a week or two for you to show up for a one round battle. Sargatanas laughs as his undead brush themselves off. Kanosic wipes a bit of blood away from his mouth. Moving back to his throne as the undead tear down the stone wall he sits down and shrugs. "Well, that was interesting, whos up for luch... wanna order out? We'll have someone go bring us a couple peasants." |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:17 PM | Anyway, now that this is finally over... its time to 'switch threads' and finally end the Royal Guard name. |
| premier66610-15-05, 02:18 PM | Word of Recal only has a verbal component to it, and I assume you can talk while bound with the Iron Bands of Ballario. :D The bands went with Silmna tho. Who knows, maby she wont be able to get out of them and starve to death... So, you're saying that, she scaped AND got Sagatanas magic Bands? |
| Ashariana10-15-05, 02:21 PM | So, you're saying that, she scaped AND got Sagatanas magic Bands? MY bands! MYYYYYY BANDS! I leant them to Sargatanas because Alanya had a better chance to hit (really high dex). She stole my bands! Thief! |
| Sssargoth10-15-05, 02:22 PM | So, you're saying that, she scaped AND got Sagatanas magic Bands? Ashariana's actually, but they do have a DC:30 STR/Escape Artist check to get out of them, so I dont think Silmna is getting out of them any time soon. |
| premier66610-15-05, 02:35 PM | MY bands! MYYYYYY BANDS! I leant them to Sargatanas because Alanya had a better chance to hit (really high dex). She stole my bands! Thief! You stole my character! thief! :D |
| premier66610-15-05, 02:37 PM | Now that this is over, can anyone go aprove my new character Mandos? |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 02:39 PM | Actually... I've just noticed. Kanosic and the Minotaur go with Silimna and continue to drink her blood. Silimna loses another 7 con (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=167808) If silmarien hasn't specified anything before now... then I guess theres nobody there to help her. She certainly isn't part of any foundation that I know of (that has been actually made in game), so its Kanosic, the Minotaur, and Silimna's partially drained form. |
| Zombomaniac10-15-05, 04:26 PM | Ok thats it! Sil, I am one of your supporters so know that this comes from the heart and is not biasted when I say Post your Spells and such OOC. When this firt came up I figured it would be ok to let only the DMs know what they were, but I must be honest here I have no idea what is going on. In my mind this fight stoped when Ashariana melted the stone walls cause after that I was lost. I dont know when anything just happened and I have been reading every post. From now on I think everyone should say what they are doing in and out of character. No matter what. I dont care how much you want this to be a IC thing it just wont work. IC doesnt work without OOC and vis versa. Sil I have always thought you were one of the most creative people in the whole boards and think you are a good person, but you dont function OOC. You are a writer not a rules maker. When you get a idea you want the rules to change according to the idea not the other way around. Well I am sorry to say Sil but DnD doesn't work that way. You seem to know the rules, but dont except them. Sil you have made some great stories and great character development for the Guild house, but every time you make a post I feel lost. 3/4th of the time when you make a post I have no idea what it means. I like all your ideas, but they take to long and make little OOC sence. We wasted two Real world weeks just so you could go on a mission you know was hopeless. I am sorry to rant like this, but I was really looking forward to this fight. I thought it would be awsome, but all it was is one big headach. I am going to stop now cause I am starting to flame someone I think is a very good member of the Boards. But please everyone post the stuff you are doing OOC to. Not just IC. |
| turalisj10-15-05, 04:34 PM | wait, if both vampires are draining her blood, then whose spawn would she become?!? :confused: |
| Zombomaniac10-15-05, 04:41 PM | wait, if both vampires are draining her blood, then whose spawn would she become?!? :confused: roll a d4. 1 or 3 the Minotaur's, 2 or 4 the other one's, or whoever gets the killing bite. |
| turalisj10-15-05, 05:28 PM | *rolls dice* *dice rolls into jello* ok, does that mean sil turns into a gelatinous vampire? |
| Sssargoth10-15-05, 05:31 PM | *rolls dice* *dice rolls into jello* ok, does that mean sil turns into a gelatinous vampire? nope, a brainstealer dragon... under my control. :D |
| Arshes10-15-05, 05:53 PM | I go away for a bit, and what happends!?! Can someone update me on what has been going on! |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 05:58 PM | I go away for a bit, and what happends!?! Can someone update me on what has been going on! I attacked your foundation, killed some of your members, slaughtered your soldiers and ressurected them as undead... now I've set myself up in the old place's halls. Sil showed up with some character and tried to save Drauguril from Ashariana's domination (though I don't think Silimna has ever actually met Drauguril in character...) and failed. Currently, my vampires are drinking her blood. |
| Arshes10-15-05, 06:06 PM | Ah, great. Well, I'll just bide my time then, perhaps make hit and run attacks on orc tribes.... |
| Arshes10-15-05, 06:18 PM | oh, and two things: 1. This may have been the HQ, but there are still two other bases. The followers were divided up between those. 2. There is no throne room, the closest thing to that would be the cafeteria. |
| premier66610-15-05, 06:25 PM | oh, and two things: 1. This may have been the HQ, but there are still two other bases. The followers were divided up between those. 2. There is no throne room, the closest thing to that would be the cafeteria. SO Sargatanas now rule over the Cafeteria? |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 06:29 PM | SO Sargatanas now rule over the Cafeteria? Well, theres a throne room now. Just take a look at the Temple of the Damned. |
| premier66610-15-05, 06:52 PM | Well, theres a throne room now. Just take a look at the Temple of the Damned. Just took a look. Very nice decoration aint it? I'm gonna do it in my room, I just need to make some sacrifices. :D |
| Arshes10-15-05, 07:03 PM | is sargantas king of the donuts now? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 08:03 PM | well done everyone. I'm really delighted to see no flames afterwards @Sssargoth, thanx for the ruling. @Zombo Hi Zombo, the DMs have my spells. I did send them thru. @all I don't think its realistic D&D to put up our spell lists for all to see. Did you know, (this bit's at the bad guyz) I had a spell running called Spell Immunity. And, I promise you, if you see the spells I chose, they were chosen, without looking at your spell lists. If I chose based on your spell lists and special powers, I so would have chosen other things. @"enemies" Instead, I get to learn about your tactics by direct RP, and now..... it's time for *EXPERIENCE POINTS* for a greatly outpowered exchange! About con damage noted, and thank you. Except I vanished on my initiative, before a full round of bloodsucking happened. stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 08:06 PM | well done everyone. I'm really delighted to see no flames afterwards @Sssargoth, thanx for the ruling. @Zombo Hi Zombo, the DMs have my spells. I did send them thru. @all I don't think its realistic D&D to put up our spell lists for all to see. Did you know, (this bit's at the bad guyz) I had a spell running called Spell Immunity. And, I promise you, if you see the spells I chose, they were chosen, without looking at your spell lists. If I chose based on your spell lists and special powers, I so would have chosen other things. @"enemies" Instead, I get to learn about your tactics by direct RP, and now..... it's time for *EXPERIENCE POINTS* for a greatly outpowered exchange! About con damage noted, and thank you. Except I vanished on my initiative, before a full round of bloodsucking happened. stav The fight isnt over yet you realize. You may have used word of recall, but my vampires were on you, and still are. They went with you. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 08:14 PM | The fight isnt over yet you realize. You may have used word of recall, but my vampires were on you, and still are. They went with you. oh come on Sargantanas, let's move on now. It was a big fight, and a fun one. You'll get creamed if you are serious about that. You'll be on my terf. I've sent materials thru to the GMs, before the fight, about the equivalent of cohorts, and you'll be entering terf where there are two more high level characters (which are in Beta version with Demonfey, by the way). Also, I'd be free by the end of the round, from another spell. you'd be going on a suicide mission. stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 08:19 PM | oh come on Sargantanas, let's move on now. It was a big fight, and a fun one. You'll get creamed if you are serious about that. You'll be on my terf. I've sent materials thru to the GMs, before the fight, about the equivalent of cohorts, and you'll be entering terf where there are two more high level characters (which are in Beta version with Demonfey, by the way). Also, I'd be free by the end of the round, from another spell. you'd be going on a suicide mission. stav Did you send the Gms stats? Do these things actually exist in game? Does the place you are teleporting to even exist in game? These are all questions I've never heard the answer to. No cohorts are posted, and ya don't have the leadership feat, so ya aint got cohorts. Silimna has never posted membership in any statted guild, so everything you say right now doesn't actually exist. |
| Sssargoth10-15-05, 08:19 PM | oh come on Sargantanas, let's move on now. It was a big fight, and a fun one. You'll get creamed if you are serious about that. You'll be on my terf. I've sent materials thru to the GMs, before the fight, about the equivalent of cohorts, and you'll be entering terf where there are two more high level characters (which are in Beta version with Demonfey, by the way). I havent seen anything about this... |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 08:30 PM | yes you have, Sssargoth. Please see my methodology PM. There were a lot of data exchanged. And in any case, can we not have this discussion here :) Since it involves PMs. If you've accidentally deleted it, please PM me, and I'll re-send. @sarg. sarg, you'll get cooked if you come thru, the two of ya. It's not pretty for Undead in Eilistraee's parts. But, again, it was fun, and you set a great challenge, and are a good tactician. I hope I've provided you with some things to think about as well. regards stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 08:32 PM | yes you have, Sssargoth. Please see my methodology PM. There were a lot of data exchanged. And in any case, can we not have this discussion here :) Since it involves PMs. If you've accidentally deleted it, please PM me, and I'll re-send. @sarg. sarg, you'll get cooked if you come thru, the two of ya. It's not pretty for Undead in Eilistraee's parts. But, again, it was fun, and you set a great challenge, and are a good tactician. I hope I've provided you with some things to think about as well. regards stav And once again, this stuff does not exist in game, and since it doesnt exist, it can't kill me. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 08:48 PM | And once again, this stuff does not exist in game, and since it doesnt exist, it can't kill me. *smiles* says, does too exist - *tosses lembas at ya* if you can't see the tree when you are not near the tree, does the tree exist or not (nihilists would claim 'no' - but - that assumes the tree exists just for their benefit. A tree exists because it does, not for a person's benefit. Discover the tree and learn that it lives. ;) |
| premier66610-15-05, 08:53 PM | Ayup. Asharianna, There is a bit of rping stuff for you at the temple of the dammed thread. for you too Sargatanas, but since you created the tread, I dont think you need warning. Edit: *Grab Lembas in the air and eat it.* |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 08:56 PM | hi premier, hang in there, dude! You aren't forgotten. and, with that preamble @Sarg If you still are interested - you've been given fair warning. I'd need some time to finish the beta-version preparations of PCs and also, sketch out a map, for the DMs. regards stav |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 09:06 PM | hi premier, hang in there, dude! You aren't forgotten. and, with that preamble @Sarg If you still are interested - you've been given fair warning. I'd need some time to finish the beta-version preparations of PCs and also, sketch out a map, for the DMs. regards stav Have statistics been posted on the boards or given to the GMs before this claim of there being something there to fight back? If it is just an idea, it doesn't exist in game rules terms. The tree is there if it is something physical that we can look at and say "this is a tree." |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 09:25 PM | hi again, Sarg, you should know I'm a very fair player, by now. I've given fair warning about it, which is going beyond the call of duty, and also declared everything that's relevant, for the thread. Do you know, if I was really in it to 'win' in that way, I'd have come in with more firepower, first up. It was a fight, one PC versus about six. In the spirit of good sportsmanship, I didn't object to the time that passed (when I could have). The rest is for off-air. If yer wanting to PM to talk more, please write, and use it to mend fences as they say, move on and all that. :) @all But, why don't we use the Player Lounge to have some fun, and spin some yarns. @sarg Call me a witch, if you like. :) stav *chants* Experience points |
| Sargatanas10-15-05, 09:30 PM | I'll believe you when a GM tells me all this, and if it is the case that you have PREVIOUSLY statted things out, I'll let it got. If not, you are mine. Now lets allow them to tell me and stop deciding things for me eh? No, I don't think you are a fair player, you've been trying everything you can to weasle a win from this fight that you possibly can. I also think you've lied quite a few times. I think you are in it 'for the win' I think you wan't to win in everything, but thats for another place and it seems like an attempt at baiting to me. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 09:36 PM | *shruges* can't help you I'm afraid. Of course, I've used every method I know to survive. Why wouldn't I. Anyhowz, just posted at your new Foundation. stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 09:38 PM | I'll believe you when a GM tells me all this Just being fair, by giving you early warning. I'm being fair. that's good enough! bye, for now. stav |
| gabrion10-15-05, 09:45 PM | @all-This was an interesting fight and I think it added some very useful content to to the IFWG (and I hope the parties involved respond in a way proper to their character motivations and such). That said, I think the fight is clearly over and everyone involved can move forward. The caster of Word of Recall gets to decide if they want to bring people alond and in this case I don't think Silimna wanted to, so the end result would be her vanishing and (presumably) the bad guys being irritated by her stunt. That's the end of the scene and it's a good one IMO. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 09:55 PM | thanx Gabe, They're very nice words, and it's good to see you! :) trying to be fair to the bad guyz. @all I've just posted a "sil celebrates" post at The Players Lounge. It's, erm, Sil's version of the story, so there's plenty of room for a rep. of the bad guyz, to come in with a competing story, to make Silimna look like a witch! enjoy :) |
| Arshes10-15-05, 10:15 PM | Did you send the Gms stats? Do these things actually exist in game? Does the place you are teleporting to even exist in game? These are all questions I've never heard the answer to. No cohorts are posted, and ya don't have the leadership feat, so ya aint got cohorts. Silimna has never posted membership in any statted guild, so everything you say right now doesn't actually exist. youll find sil has a habit of doing that. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-15-05, 11:15 PM | youll find sil has a habit of doing that. *whistles* @Sargantanas, you're a smart person. You've got to work it out - I'm a methodologist, when facing these kinds of 'tings, with decades of practice! There has to be some benefit for having an aging body :) @all I ran a D&D competition for my 27th birthday. We had prises, puzzles (in game) and structured encounters, printed materials to go to the invitees, with clues in the package. You were mailed your options for PCs (many people had never played before) and it was a night to remember - that went to way early in the morning. And a great deal of fun! stav |
| jagggar10-15-05, 11:45 PM | I've been informed. However, I've not approved of any of it. Stav, Read Zombomaniac's post again. And again, and again if needed. I'm sure it would be hard to find someone who thought your writings and story are bad (except for the focus on elves by our anti-elf racists. . . but that's a whole 'nother issue. . .). But just because you write well does not mean we will bend the rules to fit them to the story you write. If we do that it starts to become 'freeform' roleplaying bogged down by some numbers, and that isn't D&D. There are going to be places where your story will have to conform to the rules. Perhaps the DoE can only supply so much effort to winning the Tyranorian throne; others are tied up, doing what they can to save the drow they can save from the clutches of Lolth. Minotaur and Kanosic are still where they are. The word "may" implies it is a choice to take others along. Does anyone know who "possessed" the iron bands in the situation? |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-16-05, 12:07 AM | I've been informed. However, I've not approved of any of it. Stav, Read Zombomaniac's post again. And again, and again if needed. I'm sure it would be hard to find someone who thought your writings and story are bad (except for the focus on elves by our anti-elf racists. . . but that's a whole 'nother issue. . .). But just because you write well does not mean we will bend the rules to fit them to the story you write. If we do that it starts to become 'freeform' roleplaying bogged down by some numbers, and that isn't D&D. There are going to be places where your story will have to conform to the rules. Perhaps the DoE can only supply so much effort to winning the Tyranorian throne; others are tied up, doing what they can to save the drow they can save from the clutches of Lolth. Minotaur and Kanosic are still where they are. The word "may" implies it is a choice to take others along. Does anyone know who "possessed" the iron bands in the situation? hi jagggar, thanx for the nice words about the writing stuff. But, there's nothing in my actions that didn't respond, in the moment, as Silimna was required to by the other team's actions. The story IC, are not the basis for my In-Game actions. Also, you'll note that I didn't bring Sargantanas back, precisely because of the beta-status. The methodology post is in your in-box, sent thru other week and still waiting for your advice. (and they are PMs, so they're really not for here to discuss) :) + happy to talk to you about it. Again, thank you for all your dming, and yes, the metal cage thing question is a good one. ta muchly, stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-16-05, 12:13 AM | Ok thats it! Sil, I am one of your supporters so know that this comes from the heart and is not biasted when I say Post your Spells and such OOC. When this firt came up I figured it would be ok to let only the DMs know what they were, but I must be honest here I have no idea what is going on. In my mind this fight stoped when Ashariana melted the stone walls cause after that I was lost. I dont know when anything just happened and I have been reading every post. From now on I think everyone should say what they are doing in and out of character. No matter what. I dont care how much you want this to be a IC thing it just wont work. IC doesnt work without OOC and vis versa. Sil I have always thought you were one of the most creative people in the whole boards and think you are a good person, but you dont function OOC. You are a writer not a rules maker. When you get a idea you want the rules to change according to the idea not the other way around. Well I am sorry to say Sil but DnD doesn't work that way. You seem to know the rules, but dont except them. Sil you have made some great stories and great character development for the Guild house, but every time you make a post I feel lost. 3/4th of the time when you make a post I have no idea what it means. I like all your ideas, but they take to long and make little OOC sence. We wasted two Real world weeks just so you could go on a mission you know was hopeless. I am sorry to rant like this, but I was really looking forward to this fight. I thought it would be awsome, but all it was is one big headach. I am going to stop now cause I am starting to flame someone I think is a very good member of the Boards. But please everyone post the stuff you are doing OOC to. Not just IC. Yes, jagggar, I have read this post. It's nicely worded, but this was a two round fight. In a nutshell, 1. teleport in, with spells running, wall of stone. They were all of my actions, before the bad guyz acted. 2. Then, they breached the wall, some of the baddies delayed, and one of Sargantanas's PCs cast True Seeing (that attracted the AoO) used thee Iron bands thingy and started to suck my blood. 3. I left, with Word of Recall. It's not hard. But, if it will help, I can put (some) more OoC stuff. thanx stav |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-16-05, 12:15 AM | credit where it's due :) I did well, given the odds. Again, thanx for your DMing. You were very patient and very hard working. |
| Sargatanas10-16-05, 12:23 AM | credit where it's due :) I did well, given the odds. Again, thanx for your DMing. You were very patient and very hard working. Does your arm hurt streatched around patting your back like that? You weren't that outdone here... you had a hell of a lot of prep time as opposed to my none. So I'd say it wasn't that far off. You also keep saying PCs, there were three PCs, not 6 or 7. |
| Silmarien Aldalome10-16-05, 12:30 AM | Does your arm hurt streatched around patting your back like that? You weren't that outdone here... you had a hell of a lot of prep time as opposed to my none. So I'd say it wasn't that far off. You also keep saying PCs, there were three PCs, not 6 or 7. *smiles* (at bold face) - "hello" alert! outpowered - buff spells included. I'da lasted another round, max. It was fun though. stav |
| jagggar10-19-05, 06:23 PM | Arshes, Now that you're back, I could use some details on how you were thinking the RG was going to be set up. |
| jagggar10-20-05, 11:12 PM | Arshes? Hello? I need input or the spoils of war will be based entirely on my whims. Till Saturday to respond I guess. Those involved in the combats, I'm getting much closer on XP. |
| Ashariana10-20-05, 11:15 PM | Use your whims, I'm expecting Arshes to say after the fact that the royal guard's headquarters was just a little building with not a lot of gold. So use your whims to decide what the headquarters (main building, big one, etc) would have had in it. I think it would be ya know... better that way. Because I'm sorry but I don't get a good feeling going the other way. |
| Wilds10-21-05, 11:39 AM | You figure it out Jaggar. I dont remember Arshes ever saying that the guard had two training posts/facility out in no where before either |
| jagggar10-21-05, 12:03 PM | You figure it out Jaggar. I dont remember Arshes ever saying that the guard had two training posts/facility out in no where before either It was in the topic Necrodude started that I took over for guilds to declare themselves. |
| Wilds10-21-05, 03:15 PM | im guessing thats in the meta-thread somewhere, i tryed to read that, but way to much stuff in there |