Battle Sorcerer [Archive] - Wizards Community

Battle Sorcerer [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Tetsubo
09-11-05, 01:33 AM Is it worth running a Battle Sorcerer over a straight Sorcerer?

I think the only reason to run a BS is for entry into a PrC of some kind.

Can they stand up as a full 20 level build on their own?
DM Zoc
09-11-05, 02:24 AM A Battle Sorcerer is kind of like a Sorcerer-into-Eldritch Knight, except with far more defense (hit points and armor). There are no PrC's (at least that I know of) which require proficiency with one martial weapon, and there aren't really any full caster PrC's which have a BAB requirement.

Personally, I would never play a sorcerer in a game where the Battle Sorcerer is allowed.
Kadasbrass
09-11-05, 02:37 AM My first character was a Battle Sorcerer and I loved it, haven't enjoy the game the same way since. But you do gotta take great care in picking your spells though. Arcane Strike (feat from CW) is also a good choice later on, combine it with Haste and you can deal good amounts of damage.

As for a PrC, in the right hands I would say that the Daggerspell Mage (CV) is also a good choice, will help you in the skills area, and would provide the same casting progression as a Eldritch Knight (9/10, and requires a level from another class).
Hochiu
09-11-05, 02:52 AM Is it worth running a Battle Sorcerer over a straight Sorcerer?

I think the only reason to run a BS is for entry into a PrC of some kind.

Can they stand up as a full 20 level build on their own?

I think they could, in all honesty.

Sure the sorcerer can cast more spells, but the Battle Sorc can cast the SAME spells, wear armour, have better hit points and can smack them in the face with a one handed weapon. Given Eschew Materials and whatever feat doesn't require a somatic component, they can probably stand toe to toe with even a more martially inclined class.
DM Zoc
09-11-05, 04:36 AM I forgot to mention, but the Draconic feats from Complete Arcane were practically made for the Battle Sorcerer. The natural armor might be useful, but so would the claw attack; most important, though, the breath weapon means you don't need to worry about taking a damage spell at every level.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Tetsubo 09-11-05, 01:33 AM	Is it worth running a Battle Sorcerer over a straight Sorcerer? I think the only reason to run a BS is for entry into a PrC of some kind. Can they stand up as a full 20 level build on their own?
DM Zoc 09-11-05, 02:24 AM	A Battle Sorcerer is kind of like a Sorcerer-into-Eldritch Knight, except with far more defense (hit points and armor). There are no PrC's (at least that I know of) which require proficiency with one martial weapon, and there aren't really any full caster PrC's which have a BAB requirement. Personally, I would never play a sorcerer in a game where the Battle Sorcerer is allowed.
Kadasbrass 09-11-05, 02:37 AM	My first character was a Battle Sorcerer and I loved it, haven't enjoy the game the same way since. But you do gotta take great care in picking your spells though. Arcane Strike (feat from CW) is also a good choice later on, combine it with Haste and you can deal good amounts of damage. As for a PrC, in the right hands I would say that the Daggerspell Mage (CV) is also a good choice, will help you in the skills area, and would provide the same casting progression as a Eldritch Knight (9/10, and requires a level from another class).
Hochiu 09-11-05, 02:52 AM	Is it worth running a Battle Sorcerer over a straight Sorcerer? I think the only reason to run a BS is for entry into a PrC of some kind. Can they stand up as a full 20 level build on their own? I think they could, in all honesty. Sure the sorcerer can cast more spells, but the Battle Sorc can cast the SAME spells, wear armour, have better hit points and can smack them in the face with a one handed weapon. Given Eschew Materials and whatever feat doesn't require a somatic component, they can probably stand toe to toe with even a more martially inclined class.
DM Zoc 09-11-05, 04:36 AM	I forgot to mention, but the Draconic feats from Complete Arcane were practically made for the Battle Sorcerer. The natural armor might be useful, but so would the claw attack; most important, though, the breath weapon means you don't need to worry about taking a damage spell at every level.