bloodlines and level dependant class abilities [Archive] - Wizards Community

bloodlines and level dependant class abilities [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ScoliosisMan
06-27-04, 02:31 PM i've searched fairly thouroughly through this forum, and have not found any answers to my questions.

so here goes:
If you have more then 1 class, the bloodlines add to them all.
so would a multiclassed character, say a wiz10/ftr7/maj. bloodline 3, with leadership have a leadership score of 20+modifiers, or 23+modifiers (13wiz/10ftr)

basically, the question is, do the bloodline levels:
a) count as normal class levels for Character level dependant benfits,
b) not at all
c) stack with multiclassing as in the above example.

the problem comes in here:
i remember in 3.0 (don't remember if this phrase carried over to 3.5) in the magic section they said that "HD is synonymous
with Character Level."

the aforementioned example has 20 class levels, 23 when it comes to level-effects, and only 17 HD.

talk about confusing.

any help would be useful.
Kintara
06-27-04, 03:20 PM I believe it's "a." It seems too bizarre for it to add to class levels the way it does, but not to character level in a similar way. It increases your max skill ranks, and counts as a class level for XP purposes, so I'd say it counts as a character level for determining Leadership.

I don't know if there is an official ruling, though.

Also, note that the class level bonus you get from Bloodline levels should be pretty limited. My interpretation is that it only increases caster level and calculations based on class levels. Sneak Attack, for example, isn't ever given a calculation, per say. It's given a pattern of progression.
Arcade
06-27-04, 03:23 PM I would say that the leadership score is 20 + modifiers. The bloodline description means that you get to add the bloodline levels on to any level dependent effects. What it is trying to say for multiclass characters is that it will increase the class effects of all your classes, not just 1.

Most prestige classes that deal with spells make you determine which class you are increasing the spell power of. The bloodlines does not make you decide- it increases the level of all level dependent effects, but it does not increase the level of your character in any of those classes.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ScoliosisMan 06-27-04, 02:31 PM	i've searched fairly thouroughly through this forum, and have not found any answers to my questions. so here goes: If you have more then 1 class, the bloodlines add to them all. so would a multiclassed character, say a wiz10/ftr7/maj. bloodline 3, with leadership have a leadership score of 20+modifiers, or 23+modifiers (13wiz/10ftr) basically, the question is, do the bloodline levels: a) count as normal class levels for Character level dependant benfits, b) not at all c) stack with multiclassing as in the above example. the problem comes in here: i remember in 3.0 (don't remember if this phrase carried over to 3.5) in the magic section they said that "HD is synonymous with Character Level." the aforementioned example has 20 class levels, 23 when it comes to level-effects, and only 17 HD. talk about confusing. any help would be useful.
Kintara 06-27-04, 03:20 PM	I believe it's "a." It seems too bizarre for it to add to class levels the way it does, but not to character level in a similar way. It increases your max skill ranks, and counts as a class level for XP purposes, so I'd say it counts as a character level for determining Leadership. I don't know if there is an official ruling, though. Also, note that the class level bonus you get from Bloodline levels should be pretty limited. My interpretation is that it only increases caster level and calculations based on class levels. Sneak Attack, for example, isn't ever given a calculation, per say. It's given a pattern of progression.
Arcade 06-27-04, 03:23 PM	I would say that the leadership score is 20 + modifiers. The bloodline description means that you get to add the bloodline levels on to any level dependent effects. What it is trying to say for multiclass characters is that it will increase the class effects of all your classes, not just 1. Most prestige classes that deal with spells make you determine which class you are increasing the spell power of. The bloodlines does not make you decide- it increases the level of all level dependent effects, but it does not increase the level of your character in any of those classes.