Change on level adjustments [Archive] - Wizards Community

Change on level adjustments [Archive] - Wizards Community

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camway
02-20-07, 02:49 AM Ok I got to thinking recently about level adjustments and such and I think its unbalanced. Heres why.

To save time and effort I will use 2 races, race "x" race "Y" and race "Z"

Lets say race X gives you +2 wisdom and +2 intelligence, this race would probably give you a LA of +1.

Now race Y lets say gives you +2 strength +2 intelligence and + 2 constitution. This would at least have an LA of +2.

And race Z we'll say gives no particular ability adjustments, and has an LA of +0.

So essentially, Z cost 0 levels or can start at level 1 . x cost 1 level and can start at level 2, Y cost 2 levels and starts at level 3.

so essentially for every +2 on an ability after that gives an LA from what I've seen (for the most part)

But this means that for race X you lose essentially 1000 exp of leveling up due to 1 level loosed, however with race Y which just has +2 more strength, you have to spend 2000 more experience to gain it. So that means that you are spending 2000 experience, maybe a caster level, maybe a cap ability on just gaining 1 on attack and damage.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but would it not be more sensible to say for every LA you have, you can spend 1000 experience to Negate. Example, La of 8, would cost 8000 experience to get rid of, and LA of 4 would cost 4000.
XrP-Leon The Second
02-20-07, 03:19 AM Because with your system, you could play an LA 20 creature, like a Balor, at 20K exp, which isn't much more than a level 6, I believe.
Thomar_of_Uointer
02-20-07, 03:38 AM Ok I got to thinking recently about level adjustments and such and I think its unbalanced. Heres why.

To save time and effort I will use 2 races, race "x" race "Y" and race "Z"

Lets say race X gives you +2 wisdom and +2 intelligence, this race would probably give you a LA of +1.

Now race Y lets say gives you +2 strength +2 intelligence and + 2 constitution. This would at least have an LA of +2.

And race Z we'll say gives no particular ability adjustments, and has an LA of +0.

So essentially, Z cost 0 levels or can start at level 1 . x cost 1 level and can start at level 2, Y cost 2 levels and starts at level 3.

so essentially for every +2 on an ability after that gives an LA from what I've seen (for the most part)

But this means that for race X you lose essentially 1000 exp of leveling up due to 1 level loosed, however with race Y which just has +2 more strength, you have to spend 2000 more experience to gain it. So that means that you are spending 2000 experience, maybe a caster level, maybe a cap ability on just gaining 1 on attack and damage.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but would it not be more sensible to say for every LA you have, you can spend 1000 experience to Negate. Example, La of 8, would cost 8000 experience to get rid of, and LA of 4 would cost 4000.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/reducingLevelAdjustments.htm
I've heard good things about this, but I don't allow it on principle.

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camway 02-20-07, 02:49 AM	Ok I got to thinking recently about level adjustments and such and I think its unbalanced. Heres why. To save time and effort I will use 2 races, race "x" race "Y" and race "Z" Lets say race X gives you +2 wisdom and +2 intelligence, this race would probably give you a LA of +1. Now race Y lets say gives you +2 strength +2 intelligence and + 2 constitution. This would at least have an LA of +2. And race Z we'll say gives no particular ability adjustments, and has an LA of +0. So essentially, Z cost 0 levels or can start at level 1 . x cost 1 level and can start at level 2, Y cost 2 levels and starts at level 3. so essentially for every +2 on an ability after that gives an LA from what I've seen (for the most part) But this means that for race X you lose essentially 1000 exp of leveling up due to 1 level loosed, however with race Y which just has +2 more strength, you have to spend 2000 more experience to gain it. So that means that you are spending 2000 experience, maybe a caster level, maybe a cap ability on just gaining 1 on attack and damage. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but would it not be more sensible to say for every LA you have, you can spend 1000 experience to Negate. Example, La of 8, would cost 8000 experience to get rid of, and LA of 4 would cost 4000.
XrP-Leon The Second 02-20-07, 03:19 AM	Because with your system, you could play an LA 20 creature, like a Balor, at 20K exp, which isn't much more than a level 6, I believe.
Thomar_of_Uointer 02-20-07, 03:38 AM	Ok I got to thinking recently about level adjustments and such and I think its unbalanced. Heres why. To save time and effort I will use 2 races, race "x" race "Y" and race "Z" Lets say race X gives you +2 wisdom and +2 intelligence, this race would probably give you a LA of +1. Now race Y lets say gives you +2 strength +2 intelligence and + 2 constitution. This would at least have an LA of +2. And race Z we'll say gives no particular ability adjustments, and has an LA of +0. So essentially, Z cost 0 levels or can start at level 1 . x cost 1 level and can start at level 2, Y cost 2 levels and starts at level 3. so essentially for every +2 on an ability after that gives an LA from what I've seen (for the most part) But this means that for race X you lose essentially 1000 exp of leveling up due to 1 level loosed, however with race Y which just has +2 more strength, you have to spend 2000 more experience to gain it. So that means that you are spending 2000 experience, maybe a caster level, maybe a cap ability on just gaining 1 on attack and damage. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but would it not be more sensible to say for every LA you have, you can spend 1000 experience to Negate. Example, La of 8, would cost 8000 experience to get rid of, and LA of 4 would cost 4000. http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/reducingLevelAdjustments.htm I've heard good things about this, but I don't allow it on principle.