Complex Skill Use [Archive] - Wizards Community

Complex Skill Use [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Crazy_DM
02-26-04, 05:16 AM Hej folks,

what do you think about the complex skill use?

First I think it is a great idea but on the other hand all the skills where a complex use would make sense are also skills where you could easilty take ten.

So what gain do you have if you need more rolls but the Player always asks: "Can I take ten?"

Thus I like the original skill use very much.

A more complex skill system would be like "The dark eye".
There every skill is related to three abilites. Thus if you want to make a check you have to make abiliy checks. And the higher your skill rank the more you can exceed your DC but it is considered as a success.

Greetings, your Crazy_DM
HalifaxDM
02-26-04, 02:31 PM I like this system a lot. I think that in most cases where take 10 could be used it will have the same effects as take 10 does on regular skill use ... i.e. it takes 10 times as much time.

I will admit however I haven't read over the complete complex skill system yet and do not have my book here at work with me.

I will post back with more thoughts later when I get home.
Aramas
02-26-04, 02:52 PM Using the Take 10 rule does not take 10 times as much time.
JoAT
02-26-04, 03:43 PM I'd say the whole take ten deal isn't really a problem for this rule - whenever it applies, takeing ten would either mean an automatic failure or an automatic success, and whenever it would mean an automatic success, no biggie. However, I'd be very leery about takeing ten whenever a complex skill check was involved, unless I could re-try... An auto-failure is not a good thing.
HalifaxDM
02-26-04, 05:50 PM Originally posted by Aramas
Using the Take 10 rule does not take 10 times as much time.

My apologies ... I confused it with taking 20 which takes more time ... 2 minutes for something that is normally done in a single round ... just assumed that taking 10 connoted the same thing ... well you know what happens when you assume ....

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Crazy_DM 02-26-04, 05:16 AM	Hej folks, what do you think about the complex skill use? First I think it is a great idea but on the other hand all the skills where a complex use would make sense are also skills where you could easilty take ten. So what gain do you have if you need more rolls but the Player always asks: "Can I take ten?" Thus I like the original skill use very much. A more complex skill system would be like "The dark eye". There every skill is related to three abilites. Thus if you want to make a check you have to make abiliy checks. And the higher your skill rank the more you can exceed your DC but it is considered as a success. Greetings, your Crazy_DM
HalifaxDM 02-26-04, 02:31 PM	I like this system a lot. I think that in most cases where take 10 could be used it will have the same effects as take 10 does on regular skill use ... i.e. it takes 10 times as much time. I will admit however I haven't read over the complete complex skill system yet and do not have my book here at work with me. I will post back with more thoughts later when I get home.
Aramas 02-26-04, 02:52 PM	Using the Take 10 rule does not take 10 times as much time.
JoAT 02-26-04, 03:43 PM	I'd say the whole take ten deal isn't really a problem for this rule - whenever it applies, takeing ten would either mean an automatic failure or an automatic success, and whenever it would mean an automatic success, no biggie. However, I'd be very leery about takeing ten whenever a complex skill check was involved, unless I could re-try... An auto-failure is not a good thing.
HalifaxDM 02-26-04, 05:50 PM	Originally posted by Aramas Using the Take 10 rule does not take 10 times as much time. My apologies ... I confused it with taking 20 which takes more time ... 2 minutes for something that is normally done in a single round ... just assumed that taking 10 connoted the same thing ... well you know what happens when you assume ....