Exotic Weapon Groups [Archive] - Wizards Community

Exotic Weapon Groups [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
SykeXero
02-21-04, 12:15 PM When you take the Weapon Group (Exotic) feat do you have to take it for each weapon group or can you take it once and it applies to all your weapon groups?
DragonWatcher
02-21-04, 02:34 PM I don't have the book in front of me at the moment, so I am going off of memory. As this is the case, forgive me if I am mistaken here.

I believe that the Exotic Weapon Group states that when you take it, the effects are that you are proficient with all exotic weapons that belong to any other weapon group that you possess. This applies to both groups that you already possess, as well as groups that you might get in the future.

Okay, now, as I said, that is what I remember reading. However, even if this is not the case, it still makes sense to me for it to work this way. I never agreed with having to take a seperate feat for each exotic weapon that you wanted to be able to use. As many people have stated on different posts, being proficient with more weapons make a character more versatile, not necessarily more powerful.

To me, if you are going to be using weapon groups (which in itself makes more sense to me than the way weapon proficiencies are done in the standard rules), the Exotic Weapon Group simply gives the character the understanding on how to make use of the slightly more complex versions of weapons that they can already use.

Anyhow, that's just my two coppers, and I'm sure that there are others out there who might disagree with this.
stone_dog
02-21-04, 04:03 PM Originally posted by DragonWatcher
Anyhow, that's just my two coppers, and I'm sure that there are others out there who might disagree with this.

Nope. You are right. There are only two exotic weapon groups; exotic weapons and exotic double weapons. Take either one of them and you are set with all exotic weapons of a group you already have.

In FACT... it seems that you can drop Weapon Focus, Exotic weapons onto your character sheet and have the +1 for every exotic weapon group that you have a weapon focus for the standard group.

This set up is great. It encourages specialization without making you blow too many multiple feats.
SykeXero
02-22-04, 03:56 PM Thanks for that info. That is the way I thought it was.

I think Weapon Focus/Specialization applies to entire groups like swords and axes. I'm not sure though.

I think if you have WepProf and WepFoc (Heavy Sword) it applies to Bastard Sword (two handed). If you also have WepProf (Exotic) it also applies to 1 handed.

I'm not sure though. I just glanced through the book.
stone_dog
02-22-04, 04:10 PM It is a suggestion that if you have the Light Blades weapon group you can take WF-Light Blades and have a +1 to daggers, punching daggers, rapiers and short swords.

Heavy Blades applies to 2-h bastard swords and Exotic Weapons applies to 1-h bastard swords if you already have heavy blades. Depending on the GM you may have to take WF-Heavy Blades and WF- Exotic to have WF apply to both uses.

I might rule that if a weapon appears on both the exotic group and the standard weapon group, taking WF or WS once will apply to both versions of that weapon only. Something like that anyway.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SykeXero 02-21-04, 12:15 PM	When you take the Weapon Group (Exotic) feat do you have to take it for each weapon group or can you take it once and it applies to all your weapon groups?
DragonWatcher 02-21-04, 02:34 PM	I don't have the book in front of me at the moment, so I am going off of memory. As this is the case, forgive me if I am mistaken here. I believe that the Exotic Weapon Group states that when you take it, the effects are that you are proficient with all exotic weapons that belong to any other weapon group that you possess. This applies to both groups that you already possess, as well as groups that you might get in the future. Okay, now, as I said, that is what I remember reading. However, even if this is not the case, it still makes sense to me for it to work this way. I never agreed with having to take a seperate feat for each exotic weapon that you wanted to be able to use. As many people have stated on different posts, being proficient with more weapons make a character more versatile, not necessarily more powerful. To me, if you are going to be using weapon groups (which in itself makes more sense to me than the way weapon proficiencies are done in the standard rules), the Exotic Weapon Group simply gives the character the understanding on how to make use of the slightly more complex versions of weapons that they can already use. Anyhow, that's just my two coppers, and I'm sure that there are others out there who might disagree with this.
stone_dog 02-21-04, 04:03 PM	Originally posted by DragonWatcher Anyhow, that's just my two coppers, and I'm sure that there are others out there who might disagree with this. Nope. You are right. There are only two exotic weapon groups; exotic weapons and exotic double weapons. Take either one of them and you are set with all exotic weapons of a group you already have. In FACT... it seems that you can drop Weapon Focus, Exotic weapons onto your character sheet and have the +1 for every exotic weapon group that you have a weapon focus for the standard group. This set up is great. It encourages specialization without making you blow too many multiple feats.
SykeXero 02-22-04, 03:56 PM	Thanks for that info. That is the way I thought it was. I think Weapon Focus/Specialization applies to entire groups like swords and axes. I'm not sure though. I think if you have WepProf and WepFoc (Heavy Sword) it applies to Bastard Sword (two handed). If you also have WepProf (Exotic) it also applies to 1 handed. I'm not sure though. I just glanced through the book.
stone_dog 02-22-04, 04:10 PM	It is a suggestion that if you have the Light Blades weapon group you can take WF-Light Blades and have a +1 to daggers, punching daggers, rapiers and short swords. Heavy Blades applies to 2-h bastard swords and Exotic Weapons applies to 1-h bastard swords if you already have heavy blades. Depending on the GM you may have to take WF-Heavy Blades and WF- Exotic to have WF apply to both uses. I might rule that if a weapon appears on both the exotic group and the standard weapon group, taking WF or WS once will apply to both versions of that weapon only. Something like that anyway.