Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Chaotis 06-06-06, 11:02 AM	I have a PC who's a 20th level Wizard, 20th level Archivist, but now that I have UA, I was hoping to make him a 40th level Gestalt Wizard/Archivist. What changes will this call for in my character design? It seems like it will just blend the 2 classes(which are basically the same anyway) into one, but there has to be something more then that. Edit: I'm also thinking of doing this for my Druid/Totemist too.
DrMorganes 06-06-06, 11:22 AM	Nope. That's it, except that your PC would be Level 20, not Level 40. Each pair of class levels counts as a single character level. Keep in mind, however, that Gestalts are horribly broken unless used in a pure Gestalt campaign. That is, either EVERYONE is a Gestalt character or NOBODY is a Gestalt character. As you've probably noticed from my statements above, your PC just got a major power boost. It's not quite double, but it's still far and away above that of any other Level 20 PC you'll encounter.
Chaotis 06-06-06, 11:50 AM	Oh. That overpowered? Well, then, I guess I won't be doing it. I just realized myself he's getting 2x the spellcasting each level. I'm planning on making a dragon campaign, so maybe that's where I could derive my Gestalt fun from.
Cifer 06-06-06, 01:58 PM	By the way, gestalting a wiz20//arc20 would not be possible since the latter is a prestige class with only 10 pre-epic levels. You would have to start with wizard//somethingelse until you got the requirements for archivist, then move on to wizard//archivist until archivist hits L10, then go on with something else up to level 20 and finally move over to wizard//archivist again. Example (I haven't looked up whether the requirements can be met): Level 1: wiz1//sor1 Level 2: wiz2//sor2 Level 3: wiz3//sor3 Level 4: wiz4//sor4 Level 5: wiz5//sor5 Level 6: wiz6//sor6 Level 7: wiz7//arc1/sor6 Level 8: wiz8//arc2/sor6 Level 9: wiz9//arc3/sor6 Level 10: wiz10//arc4/sor6 Level 11: wiz11//arc5/sor6 Level 12: wiz12//arc6/sor6 Level 13: wiz13//arc7/sor6 Level 14: wiz14//arc8/sor6 Level 15: wiz15//arc9/sor6 Level 16: wiz16//arc10/sor6 Level 17: wiz17//arc10/sor7 Level 18: wiz18//arc10/sor8 Level 19: wiz19//arc10/sor9 Level 20: wiz20//arc10/sor10 Level 21: wiz21//arc11/sor10 and so on...
lightman 06-06-06, 07:27 PM	By the way, gestalting a wiz20//arc20 would not be possible since the latter is a prestige class with only 10 pre-epic levels. You would have to start with wizard//somethingelse until you got the requirements for archivist, then move on to wizard//archivist until archivist hits L10, then go on with something else up to level 20 and finally move over to wizard//archivist again. Example (I haven't looked up whether the requirements can be met): Level 1: wiz1//sor1 Level 2: wiz2//sor2 Level 3: wiz3//sor3 Level 4: wiz4//sor4 Level 5: wiz5//sor5 Level 6: wiz6//sor6 Level 7: wiz7//arc1/sor6 Level 8: wiz8//arc2/sor6 Level 9: wiz9//arc3/sor6 Level 10: wiz10//arc4/sor6 Level 11: wiz11//arc5/sor6 Level 12: wiz12//arc6/sor6 Level 13: wiz13//arc7/sor6 Level 14: wiz14//arc8/sor6 Level 15: wiz15//arc9/sor6 Level 16: wiz16//arc10/sor6 Level 17: wiz17//arc10/sor7 Level 18: wiz18//arc10/sor8 Level 19: wiz19//arc10/sor9 Level 20: wiz20//arc10/sor10 Level 21: wiz21//arc11/sor10 and so on...Yeah, converting from Epic to gestalt is just going to make him weaker.
sedqon 06-06-06, 08:06 PM	By the way, gestalting a wiz20//arc20 would not be possible since the latter is a prestige class with only 10 pre-epic levels. You would have to start with wizard//somethingelse until you got the requirements for archivist, then move on to wizard//archivist until archivist hits L10, then go on with something else up to level 20 and finally move over to wizard//archivist again. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, I believe he means the archivist class from heroes of horror, which is a base class.
necrosnoop110 06-06-06, 09:58 PM	Archivist (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20051007a&page=3)
Cifer 06-07-06, 07:00 AM	@Sedqon Oh. My mistake...
kdyal 06-08-06, 05:58 PM	Take the experience for the 40th level, recalculate at LA+1 from level 1, and you have your new character. It won't lose that much...