Gestalt challenge ratings? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Mindolin

06-16-07, 12:34 AM
Okay, under the gestalt rules, it tells you to lower the challenge rating by 1 point, 2 if the monster requires a lot of saves for their special abilities. Does this apply to other gestalt characters as well, such as if I made a Wizard 5/Cleric 5, the overall CR would be 3? Or does the gestalt NPC keep a CR at their level?
tylara67

06-16-07, 01:22 AM
The reduction in CR is for NPC monsters with no class levels fighting gestalt PCs. Gestalt PCs typically have better saves than non-gestalt PCs of the same level, so a monster that depends on abilities that allow saves will be less dangerous.

A gestalt NPC against gestalt PCs should keep his CR the same, as he's getting the same benefits they are. A gestalt NPC against non-gestalt PCs should have his CR increased, as he will be comparatively more powerful.
Mindolin

06-18-07, 12:32 AM
Okay, thanks. I though that was how it worked but I wanted to make certain.