Gestalt for very small parties [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gestalt for very small parties [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Mr. VanderMeer
02-27-04, 06:30 AM I would not include the Gestalt rules in my campaign very quickly. I feel it would be too much work too modify the world and the adventures.
However, Gestalt seems like a good idea if you have only two players, but still want to run standard adventures.
You could have a complete party with only two players.

Maybe a fighter cleric and a wizard rogue? Of course this could also be done with multiclassing, but this way makes the party of two able to take on somewhat higher challenges.

Whaddaythink? Gestalt only for mini-groups?
DM Zoc
02-27-04, 07:02 AM That's exactly what they suggest, and it's pretty much what I agree with.
Mr. VanderMeer
02-27-04, 07:33 AM Oh, I guess I didn't read the text well enough. I hurried through the book, because I saw so many cool ideas.
Gestalt_Commoner
02-27-04, 10:12 AM in mi parte we hve 7 ppl woh play. tehy of corse nowe al ues gestalts. it is vry hrad 4 me 2 dm so ya i agreee use it 4 smlal groops teeheeeheee :D :D :D :D
Mr. VanderMeer
02-27-04, 10:38 AM With seven players I would not allow it. That is just too much work.
The Simple Seeker II
02-27-04, 11:01 AM Originally posted by Mr. VanderMeer
With seven players I would not allow it. That is just too much work.

Even with one, it is too much:smirk: ....just kidding.
Belegbeth
02-27-04, 01:05 PM As UA explains, I think Gestalt would be appropriate for very small parties (e.g. 2 characters). A campaign like that could be very fun -- similar in feel to Leiber's "Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser" stories.
Mr. VanderMeer
02-27-04, 02:49 PM Good call Belegbeth.

Some of the fantasy heroes from books could really fit the bill. Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser are good examples. Maybe Conan too.
Hygric
02-27-04, 10:23 PM Definately Conan. He is a barbarian / rogue if ever there was one. He is described as Conan the Thief almost as often as Conan the barbarian in the books.

How about Elric? Fighter/Conjurer?

Is this a good use for gestalt, doing up truly epic NPC's?
ZebRaderJedi
02-27-04, 11:19 PM Originally posted by Hygric
Definately Conan. He is a barbarian / rogue if ever there was one. He is described as Conan the Thief almost as often as Conan the barbarian in the books.

How about Elric? Fighter/Conjurer?

Is this a good use for gestalt, doing up truly epic NPC's?

I think so, in fact in the Dragaera d20 Yahoo group we've been talking about Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos series in potential gestalt terms. Most of the other folks aren't too interested, but I think Vlad as a Rogue/Psion or Rogue/Battle Sorcerer would be pretty fitting. Add in VP/WP and DB by class and you're golden.

Cheers,
Zeb
Edymnion
02-27-04, 11:28 PM Gestalt Sorcerer/Monk Were-Gorilla.
Think about it.

:D
jedrious
02-28-04, 12:30 AM too bad tenser's transformation doesn't increase size
Bard-of-all-trades
03-17-04, 12:55 PM I'm in a campaign that lost several players due to loss of jobs and having to move to "greener pastures". There are only 3 players left besides the DM. I had started a multi-class ranger/monk (using the Oriental Adventures option so my monk could multi-class). Since our party has dwindled, our DM has graciously offered to let us gestalt our characters and continue.

This is a win/win situation in our case. We will once again have everything needed to continue our campaign (ability- and class-wise) and the DM will need to only tweek a few things in his campaign (at least, that's his story). Even though we will have fewer members, the overall CR of each encounter should stay the same.

Cool option and we cannot wait to use our new characters!
SykeXero
03-17-04, 03:24 PM Originally posted by Gestalt_Commoner and translated by SykeXero
In my party we have 7 people who play. They of course now all use gestalts. It is very hard for me to DM so yes I agree: use it for small groups. teeheeeheee :D :D :D :D

Seven players... No wonder his spelling is so bad. I salute you sir for being able to survive.
DarkThoughts24
03-21-04, 09:15 PM most of the time we have 2-3 players, i find gestaltin acceptable dependin on the character in question, some are best with adversity

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Mr. VanderMeer 02-27-04, 06:30 AM	I would not include the Gestalt rules in my campaign very quickly. I feel it would be too much work too modify the world and the adventures. However, Gestalt seems like a good idea if you have only two players, but still want to run standard adventures. You could have a complete party with only two players. Maybe a fighter cleric and a wizard rogue? Of course this could also be done with multiclassing, but this way makes the party of two able to take on somewhat higher challenges. Whaddaythink? Gestalt only for mini-groups?
DM Zoc 02-27-04, 07:02 AM	That's exactly what they suggest, and it's pretty much what I agree with.
Mr. VanderMeer 02-27-04, 07:33 AM	Oh, I guess I didn't read the text well enough. I hurried through the book, because I saw so many cool ideas.
Gestalt_Commoner 02-27-04, 10:12 AM	in mi parte we hve 7 ppl woh play. tehy of corse nowe al ues gestalts. it is vry hrad 4 me 2 dm so ya i agreee use it 4 smlal groops teeheeeheee :D :D :D :D
Mr. VanderMeer 02-27-04, 10:38 AM	With seven players I would not allow it. That is just too much work.
The Simple Seeker II 02-27-04, 11:01 AM	Originally posted by Mr. VanderMeer With seven players I would not allow it. That is just too much work. Even with one, it is too much:smirk: ....just kidding.
Belegbeth 02-27-04, 01:05 PM	As UA explains, I think Gestalt would be appropriate for very small parties (e.g. 2 characters). A campaign like that could be very fun -- similar in feel to Leiber's "Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser" stories.
Mr. VanderMeer 02-27-04, 02:49 PM	Good call Belegbeth. Some of the fantasy heroes from books could really fit the bill. Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser are good examples. Maybe Conan too.
Hygric 02-27-04, 10:23 PM	Definately Conan. He is a barbarian / rogue if ever there was one. He is described as Conan the Thief almost as often as Conan the barbarian in the books. How about Elric? Fighter/Conjurer? Is this a good use for gestalt, doing up truly epic NPC's?
ZebRaderJedi 02-27-04, 11:19 PM	Originally posted by Hygric Definately Conan. He is a barbarian / rogue if ever there was one. He is described as Conan the Thief almost as often as Conan the barbarian in the books. How about Elric? Fighter/Conjurer? Is this a good use for gestalt, doing up truly epic NPC's? I think so, in fact in the Dragaera d20 Yahoo group we've been talking about Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos series in potential gestalt terms. Most of the other folks aren't too interested, but I think Vlad as a Rogue/Psion or Rogue/Battle Sorcerer would be pretty fitting. Add in VP/WP and DB by class and you're golden. Cheers, Zeb
Edymnion 02-27-04, 11:28 PM	Gestalt Sorcerer/Monk Were-Gorilla. Think about it. :D
jedrious 02-28-04, 12:30 AM	too bad tenser's transformation doesn't increase size
Bard-of-all-trades 03-17-04, 12:55 PM	I'm in a campaign that lost several players due to loss of jobs and having to move to "greener pastures". There are only 3 players left besides the DM. I had started a multi-class ranger/monk (using the Oriental Adventures option so my monk could multi-class). Since our party has dwindled, our DM has graciously offered to let us gestalt our characters and continue. This is a win/win situation in our case. We will once again have everything needed to continue our campaign (ability- and class-wise) and the DM will need to only tweek a few things in his campaign (at least, that's his story). Even though we will have fewer members, the overall CR of each encounter should stay the same. Cool option and we cannot wait to use our new characters!
SykeXero 03-17-04, 03:24 PM	Originally posted by Gestalt_Commoner and translated by SykeXero In my party we have 7 people who play. They of course now all use gestalts. It is very hard for me to DM so yes I agree: use it for small groups. teeheeeheee :D :D :D :D Seven players... No wonder his spelling is so bad. I salute you sir for being able to survive.
DarkThoughts24 03-21-04, 09:15 PM	most of the time we have 2-3 players, i find gestaltin acceptable dependin on the character in question, some are best with adversity