Gestalt Headache [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gestalt Headache [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
CowMasterTrojan
05-09-07, 02:05 AM I find multiclassing in gestalt games to be a huge headache. I was considering just saying there is no more multiclass penalties, but I'm not sure what to do to compensate Human and half-elves for one of their best abilities. Any suggestions?
NoldorForce
05-09-07, 02:37 AM The Favored Class: Any ability of humans and half-elves is actually one of their worst, even if you're doing a no-PrC core game. You don't need to compensate them for this "loss".

Multiclassing penalties are more of a protection against dipping into front-loaded classes than anything else. The problem is that if you do things properly, you don't incur any such penalties in the first place.
EvilDeathBee
05-09-07, 04:17 PM I hate to seem like a total Newb, but what is Gestalt? I've wondered this since I joined, and have seen the word thrown around, but no explenation.
Aloki
05-09-07, 04:55 PM Basically taking two classes at once. It is covered in "Unearthed Arcana". You take both class features, and the better stats. For example, if you did a Sorcerer/Fighter you would get a d10 hit-die, spell casting, familiar, bonus feats from fighter, and be proficient with all armor and all martial and simple weapons.
CowMasterTrojan
05-10-07, 12:31 AM The Favored Class: Any ability of humans and half-elves is actually one of their worst, even if you're doing a no-PrC core game. You don't need to compensate them for this "loss".

Multiclassing penalties are more of a protection against dipping into front-loaded classes than anything else. The problem is that if you do things properly, you don't incur any such penalties in the first place.

For a human, yes I will concede that it is the worst part of their abilities. but for a half-elf, it is one of the best. And overall, it is a very useful ability when dipping levels into different classes"
strenoth
05-10-07, 01:39 AM it's a campaign rules varient:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/gestaltCharacters.htm
shout27
06-04-07, 11:48 AM For those who want a realistic near-Gestalt character should check my "Caster Variant" Thread
Knightblde
06-06-07, 02:16 PM For those who want a realistic near-Gestalt character should check my "Caster Variant" Thread

By realistic do you mean a magic user that only uses slight of hand? :devil:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CowMasterTrojan 05-09-07, 02:05 AM	I find multiclassing in gestalt games to be a huge headache. I was considering just saying there is no more multiclass penalties, but I'm not sure what to do to compensate Human and half-elves for one of their best abilities. Any suggestions?
NoldorForce 05-09-07, 02:37 AM	The Favored Class: Any ability of humans and half-elves is actually one of their worst, even if you're doing a no-PrC core game. You don't need to compensate them for this "loss". Multiclassing penalties are more of a protection against dipping into front-loaded classes than anything else. The problem is that if you do things properly, you don't incur any such penalties in the first place.
EvilDeathBee 05-09-07, 04:17 PM	I hate to seem like a total Newb, but what is Gestalt? I've wondered this since I joined, and have seen the word thrown around, but no explenation.
Aloki 05-09-07, 04:55 PM	Basically taking two classes at once. It is covered in "Unearthed Arcana". You take both class features, and the better stats. For example, if you did a Sorcerer/Fighter you would get a d10 hit-die, spell casting, familiar, bonus feats from fighter, and be proficient with all armor and all martial and simple weapons.
CowMasterTrojan 05-10-07, 12:31 AM	The Favored Class: Any ability of humans and half-elves is actually one of their worst, even if you're doing a no-PrC core game. You don't need to compensate them for this "loss". Multiclassing penalties are more of a protection against dipping into front-loaded classes than anything else. The problem is that if you do things properly, you don't incur any such penalties in the first place. For a human, yes I will concede that it is the worst part of their abilities. but for a half-elf, it is one of the best. And overall, it is a very useful ability when dipping levels into different classes"
strenoth 05-10-07, 01:39 AM	it's a campaign rules varient: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/gestaltCharacters.htm
shout27 06-04-07, 11:48 AM	For those who want a realistic near-Gestalt character should check my "Caster Variant" Thread
Knightblde 06-06-07, 02:16 PM	For those who want a realistic near-Gestalt character should check my "Caster Variant" Thread By realistic do you mean a magic user that only uses slight of hand? :devil: