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ojoj444 06-21-04, 10:13 PM	i want to use a gestalt character but am confused about the rules. if i had a lvl 1 gestalt character say fighter1/ranger1 does that mean i am lvl 2 or lvl 1 and if so does that mean i would need to get the xp for a lvl 2 character at a lvl1 gestalt
Hand of Vecna 06-21-04, 10:42 PM	A Gestalt Fighter/Ranger 1 is a Level 1 character. It requires 1,000 XP to attain 2nd level, at which point it is a Fighter/Ranger 2 (unless you decide to multiclass).
flyingmoose 06-22-04, 04:26 AM	A fighter/ranger 1 is a first level character with the following class features d10 Hit Die BAB +1 Fort +2 Reflex +2 Will +0 1st favored enemy, Track, wild empathy, fighter bonus feat. You start with (6+int) x 4 skill points, and your class skills are Climb, Concentration, Craft, Handle Animal, Heal, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (dungeoneering), Knowledge (geography), Knowledge (nature), Listen, Move Silently, Profession, Ride, Search, Spot, Survival, Swim, and Use Rope. At second level, you'll gain your Combat Style (which will give you either Two-Weapon Fighting or Rapid Shot) and a second fighter bonus feat. This is all 3.5, of course. I don't think anyone's trying to gestalt anything 3.0.
Ertai Planeswalker 06-22-04, 05:57 AM	Originally posted by Hand of Vecna A Gestalt Fighter/Ranger 1 is a Level 1 character. It requires 1,000 XP to attain 2nd level, at which point it is a Fighter/Ranger 2 (unless you decide to multiclass). Not true. A gestalt character needs 150% of normal Xp to advance a level. This means you need to acquire 1500Xp to become level 2., and then 3000 for a total of 4500Xp to become level 3. etc. Experience table including Gestalt characters: Lvl: Normal: Gestalt: 2 1000 1500 3 3000 4500 4 6000 9000 5 10000 15000 (Non-Gestalts are now 1 level ahead) 6 15000 22500 7 21000 31500 8 28000 42000 9 36000 54000 10 45000 67500 (Non-Gestalts are now 2 levels ahead) 11 55000 77500 12 66000 99000 13 78000 117000 14 91000 136500 (Non-Gestalts are now 3 levels ahead) 15 105000 157500 16 120000 180000 17 136000 204000 (Non-Gestalts are now 4 levels ahead, and Epic) 18 153000 229500 19 171000 256500 20 190000 285000 -----------------Epic------------------ 21 210000 315000 22 231000 346500 23 253000 379500 24 276000 414000 (Non-Gestalts are now 5 level ahead) 25 300000 450000 26 326000 489000 27 352000 528000 28 380000 570000 (Non-Gestalts are now 6 levels ahead) 29 409000 613500 30 438000 657000 31 468000 702000 32 500000 750000 (Non-Gestalts are now 7 levels ahead) 33 532000 798000 34 565000 847500 35 599000 898500 36 634000 951000 37 670000 1005000 38 707000 1060500 39 745000 1117500 40 784000 1176000
Degobah 06-22-04, 06:25 AM	Huh? I don't see anything about Gestalt characters requiring extra xp to advance in UA.
Ertai Planeswalker 06-22-04, 07:12 AM	I don't have the book on hand so i can't give you the pagenumber, but i'm sure it's there. Theres some story how concentrating on two different classes is more straining and thus requires more training etc.
CuddyGlodsson 06-22-04, 07:54 AM	I just looked at the book, going through the Gestalt section. Nowhere does it say that they must acquire an additional 50% of the required XP to level. They do, however, give tips on how to keep Gestalts from advancing quicker than normal characters, though...
Veton 06-22-04, 01:42 PM	Originally posted by Ertai Planeswalker I don't have the book on hand so i can't give you the pagenumber, but i'm sure it's there. Theres some story how concentrating on two different classes is more straining and thus requires more training etc. That would be multi classing more then one classes and if one of them is not a favored class of yours. That doesn't apply to Gestalts.
Ertai Planeswalker 06-23-04, 06:56 AM	Strange... iahd whole discussions about this very thing a while ago on the board. I could swear it was in there. But it looks like i'm wrong. Nevertheless, when i visit my UA owning friend again, i'll reread the part about gestalts.
DM Zoc 06-23-04, 07:13 AM	Yeah, the deal with gestalt is that they're more powerful; that's all there is to it.
Veton 06-23-04, 10:37 AM	Originally posted by Ertai Planeswalker Strange... iahd whole discussions about this very thing a while ago on the board. I could swear it was in there. Well, that was probably one of the threads where they talk about how to balance in Gestalts with regular PCs. I think someone had that suggestion.