Gestalt Spellcasting Levels [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gestalt Spellcasting Levels [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Endarire
02-19-04, 08:51 PM If I'm a Fighter5+Wizard5 and go Elemental Savant1+Wizard6 for my 6th char level, how many caster levels do I get?

-EE
stone_dog
02-19-04, 10:41 PM I would say six wizard levels. Since you only have one spell casting class there and one of them is still advancing, I wouldn't let them stack.

However, if you were going with sorcerer instead (thus having two different spell progressions) I would allow elemental savant to add to the sorcerer level.
Marshall
02-20-04, 03:09 AM Originally posted by Endarire
If I'm a Fighter5+Wizard5 and go Elemental Savant1+Wizard6 for my 6th char level, how many caster levels do I get?

-EE

You cant do that. Its the same as going WIZ/WIZ.
Vecna
02-20-04, 05:43 AM You could instead mix Wiz with one of those spellcasting PrC with no spellcaster advancement at odd levels.
You can do:

Wizard + Prc (level with no spellcasting progression)
Fighter + Prc (level with spellcasting progression)
Banpai
02-20-04, 06:49 AM Oh it indeed does work simply do it like Evoker 5 /Abjurer 5
or Wiz 5 / Domain Wizard 5
askala3
02-21-04, 12:55 AM The answer to this question is the 1st caveat on class features.
from UA, pg 73
• Class features that two classes share (such as uncanny dodge) accrue at the rate of the faster class.
The 2nd caveat doesn't apply, as you only have one spellcasting class. You can't gain an ability at double the rate through gestalt.
Banpai's suggestion does work though. You'll have two separate sets of spells that way, and then could take advantage of a spellcasting PrC while still leveling as a spellcaster.
stone_dog
02-21-04, 01:22 AM Actually Banpai's suggestion does not work. An Abjurer and an evoker or a wizard and a domain wizard are still all wizards. It says right in the book you can't combine different versions of the same class. No fighter/thugs or urban and rural rangers.

Sorcerers and wizards are fine as they are different classes, as are druids and rangers. THEN you would keep two different running spell lists. It describes such an action in the sample characters.

If you have a PrC with a spellcasting progression and a normal core spell casting class, the class you are currently taking would not advance double. However, say you have sorc/wiz at level 4, and went with wiz and savant for level 5, then the extra arcane caster level could go to sorcerer. You wouldn't be able to boost a single caster level twice in one leveling though.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Endarire 02-19-04, 08:51 PM	If I'm a Fighter5+Wizard5 and go Elemental Savant1+Wizard6 for my 6th char level, how many caster levels do I get? -EE
stone_dog 02-19-04, 10:41 PM	I would say six wizard levels. Since you only have one spell casting class there and one of them is still advancing, I wouldn't let them stack. However, if you were going with sorcerer instead (thus having two different spell progressions) I would allow elemental savant to add to the sorcerer level.
Marshall 02-20-04, 03:09 AM	Originally posted by Endarire If I'm a Fighter5+Wizard5 and go Elemental Savant1+Wizard6 for my 6th char level, how many caster levels do I get? -EE You cant do that. Its the same as going WIZ/WIZ.
Vecna 02-20-04, 05:43 AM	You could instead mix Wiz with one of those spellcasting PrC with no spellcaster advancement at odd levels. You can do: Wizard + Prc (level with no spellcasting progression) Fighter + Prc (level with spellcasting progression)
Banpai 02-20-04, 06:49 AM	Oh it indeed does work simply do it like Evoker 5 /Abjurer 5 or Wiz 5 / Domain Wizard 5
askala3 02-21-04, 12:55 AM	The answer to this question is the 1st caveat on class features. from UA, pg 73 • Class features that two classes share (such as uncanny dodge) accrue at the rate of the faster class. The 2nd caveat doesn't apply, as you only have one spellcasting class. You can't gain an ability at double the rate through gestalt. Banpai's suggestion does work though. You'll have two separate sets of spells that way, and then could take advantage of a spellcasting PrC while still leveling as a spellcaster.
stone_dog 02-21-04, 01:22 AM	Actually Banpai's suggestion does not work. An Abjurer and an evoker or a wizard and a domain wizard are still all wizards. It says right in the book you can't combine different versions of the same class. No fighter/thugs or urban and rural rangers. Sorcerers and wizards are fine as they are different classes, as are druids and rangers. THEN you would keep two different running spell lists. It describes such an action in the sample characters. If you have a PrC with a spellcasting progression and a normal core spell casting class, the class you are currently taking would not advance double. However, say you have sorc/wiz at level 4, and went with wiz and savant for level 5, then the extra arcane caster level could go to sorcerer. You wouldn't be able to boost a single caster level twice in one leveling though.