Gestault in a normal game [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gestault in a normal game [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Darth Sephiroth
09-17-06, 08:28 PM How much of a boost would it be for a CR or LA for a gestault in a normal setting. I'm considering using a Gestault character as a villain in one of my games.
Kethka
09-17-06, 08:53 PM Theres no hard and fast rule for it, since it varies greatly based on level and classes used. I'd say just use your best judgement (maybe compare him to some monsters/NPCs to get an idea of what his CR could be)
Kapalen
09-17-06, 09:22 PM Pulling this out of nowhere, I'd say level and a half would be a good CR, so a 10th level Fighter/Rogue gestalt would be 15 CR.
Teydyn
09-17-06, 09:24 PM Never played gestalt myself, but the number seen on this board seems to be +1 or +2 LA.
Darth Sephiroth
09-17-06, 11:16 PM I like the +1 or +2 version, my players won't be Gestault, only a few "boss" villains. I think I'll use a mix +1 until around level 5 and +2 after that
Sylian
09-18-06, 01:56 PM Just give the players some extra xp when defeating him.
Kruulus
09-18-06, 07:26 PM problem them is the party might not defeat him... he needs to figure out what lvl of gestalt would be an appropriate challnge for them.
Darth Sephiroth
09-21-06, 02:51 PM Yeah, I'm aiming on using the guy for a recurring villain
OldManWinter
09-21-06, 08:31 PM The best way we found to deal with it was to apply a 30% XP penalty to the Gestalt Character. That way it slowly falls further and further behind the other characters, eventually being only at 16th level while the rest are at 20, and it seems to balance out nicely.
Darth Sephiroth
09-21-06, 09:09 PM I'd prefer LA to XP penalty because it balances out much easier, I've decided on a progressive LA increase similar to Bloodlines.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Darth Sephiroth 09-17-06, 08:28 PM	How much of a boost would it be for a CR or LA for a gestault in a normal setting. I'm considering using a Gestault character as a villain in one of my games.
Kethka 09-17-06, 08:53 PM	Theres no hard and fast rule for it, since it varies greatly based on level and classes used. I'd say just use your best judgement (maybe compare him to some monsters/NPCs to get an idea of what his CR could be)
Kapalen 09-17-06, 09:22 PM	Pulling this out of nowhere, I'd say level and a half would be a good CR, so a 10th level Fighter/Rogue gestalt would be 15 CR.
Teydyn 09-17-06, 09:24 PM	Never played gestalt myself, but the number seen on this board seems to be +1 or +2 LA.
Darth Sephiroth 09-17-06, 11:16 PM	I like the +1 or +2 version, my players won't be Gestault, only a few "boss" villains. I think I'll use a mix +1 until around level 5 and +2 after that
Sylian 09-18-06, 01:56 PM	Just give the players some extra xp when defeating him.
Kruulus 09-18-06, 07:26 PM	problem them is the party might not defeat him... he needs to figure out what lvl of gestalt would be an appropriate challnge for them.
Darth Sephiroth 09-21-06, 02:51 PM	Yeah, I'm aiming on using the guy for a recurring villain
OldManWinter 09-21-06, 08:31 PM	The best way we found to deal with it was to apply a 30% XP penalty to the Gestalt Character. That way it slowly falls further and further behind the other characters, eventually being only at 16th level while the rest are at 20, and it seems to balance out nicely.
Darth Sephiroth 09-21-06, 09:09 PM	I'd prefer LA to XP penalty because it balances out much easier, I've decided on a progressive LA increase similar to Bloodlines.