Holy Warrior Variants: UA or Dragon #310-312? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Holy Warrior Variants: UA or Dragon #310-312? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Romulus LoneWolf
03-28-04, 02:29 PM Which do you guys feel make for the best "alter-alignment" Paladin variations? Unearthed Arcana's "Paladins of Honor/Freedom/Tyranny/Slaughter" variations, or the alternate Holy (and Unholy) Warriors from Dragon Magazine's issues #310 and 312?

Personally, I'm divided, but one thing I like about the Dragon versions is that they cover EVERY alignments rather then just the four "alignment extremes"... The Lawful Neutral Enforcer alone makes it worth considering: It's like having Judge Dredd as a PC...
Magnificate
03-28-04, 04:07 PM Definitely Dragon Magazine versions.
Archtyrant Terevoth
03-28-04, 04:41 PM Some of the dragon magazine PrCs had some really stupid codes of conduct.

The CN variant I remember couldn't ever fulfill his word or a contract or something stupid like that.

The True neutral had some weird restriction too... Something about staying away from planar travel.

On a quick glance it seemed like a lot of these were unsuitable for adventuring characters and seemed more like NPCs.
Lankin the Mad Mage
03-29-04, 02:25 AM I didn't think they mae a TN holy warrior.

As for the codes of conduct, the Chaotic ones can be difficult, mainly because people often interpret it wrongly. Most thing chotic people have one set way of acting, with no variations. This causes trouble when someone who must act chaotic all the time enters the stage.

The C holy warriors can never be a part of an organization or let someone have authority over them. I didn't read the part about not keeping to your word (though the CE could have been that way.)
jagggar
03-29-04, 08:51 PM I started getting Dragon at issue 313, and haven't been able to find the earlier issues with the alt. paladins in them.

CoC aside, is there much mechanical difference between the UA variants and the Dragon variants?
Lankin the Mad Mage
03-30-04, 04:37 AM About as much difference as between Vampire: The masquearade vampires and D&D vampires.

In other words: Completely different. Trust me, the game mechanics are only slightly reminiscent of each other.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Romulus LoneWolf 03-28-04, 02:29 PM	Which do you guys feel make for the best "alter-alignment" Paladin variations? Unearthed Arcana's "Paladins of Honor/Freedom/Tyranny/Slaughter" variations, or the alternate Holy (and Unholy) Warriors from Dragon Magazine's issues #310 and 312? Personally, I'm divided, but one thing I like about the Dragon versions is that they cover EVERY alignments rather then just the four "alignment extremes"... The Lawful Neutral Enforcer alone makes it worth considering: It's like having Judge Dredd as a PC...
Magnificate 03-28-04, 04:07 PM	Definitely Dragon Magazine versions.
Archtyrant Terevoth 03-28-04, 04:41 PM	Some of the dragon magazine PrCs had some really stupid codes of conduct. The CN variant I remember couldn't ever fulfill his word or a contract or something stupid like that. The True neutral had some weird restriction too... Something about staying away from planar travel. On a quick glance it seemed like a lot of these were unsuitable for adventuring characters and seemed more like NPCs.
Lankin the Mad Mage 03-29-04, 02:25 AM	I didn't think they mae a TN holy warrior. As for the codes of conduct, the Chaotic ones can be difficult, mainly because people often interpret it wrongly. Most thing chotic people have one set way of acting, with no variations. This causes trouble when someone who must act chaotic all the time enters the stage. The C holy warriors can never be a part of an organization or let someone have authority over them. I didn't read the part about not keeping to your word (though the CE could have been that way.)
jagggar 03-29-04, 08:51 PM	I started getting Dragon at issue 313, and haven't been able to find the earlier issues with the alt. paladins in them. CoC aside, is there much mechanical difference between the UA variants and the Dragon variants?
Lankin the Mad Mage 03-30-04, 04:37 AM	About as much difference as between Vampire: The masquearade vampires and D&D vampires. In other words: Completely different. Trust me, the game mechanics are only slightly reminiscent of each other.