How many feats is the Weapon Focus Tree worth? [Archive] - Wizards Community

How many feats is the Weapon Focus Tree worth? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Warric
11-29-07, 03:10 PM I plan on restructuring the whole weapon focus feat tree to clean it up and make the whole of it a little more appealing and worthwhile.

The feats in question are: Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Melee/Ranged Weapon Mastery, and Weapon Supremacy. That's a lot of feats for a total of +4 to hit and +6 to damage with a dedicated weapon. I was thinking of using the rules for weapon groups in UA, and doing away with Melee/Ranged Weapon Mastery altogether to start with. Then, consolidating the remaining feats. My gut tells me it's worth a total of four feats which would be broken down as follows: Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, Weapon Mastery, Weapon Supremacy. I'm also looking for a total of +3 to hit, +6 damage:

Weapon Focus: +1 to Hit
Weapon Specialization: +1 to Hit, +2 to Damage
Weapon Mastery: +1 to Hit, +3 to Damage
Weapon Supremacy: as written

Or I could consolidate it all into 3 feats as follows:

Weapon Focus: +1 to hit at BaB +1, +2 to hit at Ftr 8, +3 to hit at Ftr 12
Weapon Specialization: +2 Damage Ftr 4, +4 Damage Ftr 12, +6 Damage Ftr 16
Weapon Supremacy: as written

What do you all think?
nonsi
11-30-07, 01:58 AM Or you houserule that instead of a buildup via Fighter-only feats, weapon skill progression could be a Fighter-class Feature (click my sig and find out).
IrishRover
12-03-07, 12:02 AM I take the entire tree as it becomes available. I sometimes wish that I had another feat or two, but life is about choices. Fighters do have plenty of feats..and no one else can take the entire tree.
Tequila_Sunrise
12-04-07, 01:43 AM I just give fighters that warblade ability that lets them shift around their weapon specific feats with an hour of practice or whatever and then expand the weapon focus chain to include Supreme WF and Supreme WS at 16th and 20th level. That's a total of +3 AB and +6 damage to basically every single attack a fighter makes at level 20--I think that's pretty damn appealing.

Does anyone else feel like Weapon Focus should be a fighter only feat?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Warric 11-29-07, 03:10 PM	I plan on restructuring the whole weapon focus feat tree to clean it up and make the whole of it a little more appealing and worthwhile. The feats in question are: Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, Greater Weapon Focus, Greater Weapon Specialization, Melee/Ranged Weapon Mastery, and Weapon Supremacy. That's a lot of feats for a total of +4 to hit and +6 to damage with a dedicated weapon. I was thinking of using the rules for weapon groups in UA, and doing away with Melee/Ranged Weapon Mastery altogether to start with. Then, consolidating the remaining feats. My gut tells me it's worth a total of four feats which would be broken down as follows: Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, Weapon Mastery, Weapon Supremacy. I'm also looking for a total of +3 to hit, +6 damage: Weapon Focus: +1 to Hit Weapon Specialization: +1 to Hit, +2 to Damage Weapon Mastery: +1 to Hit, +3 to Damage Weapon Supremacy: as written Or I could consolidate it all into 3 feats as follows: Weapon Focus: +1 to hit at BaB +1, +2 to hit at Ftr 8, +3 to hit at Ftr 12 Weapon Specialization: +2 Damage Ftr 4, +4 Damage Ftr 12, +6 Damage Ftr 16 Weapon Supremacy: as written What do you all think?
nonsi 11-30-07, 01:58 AM	Or you houserule that instead of a buildup via Fighter-only feats, weapon skill progression could be a Fighter-class Feature (click my sig and find out).
IrishRover 12-03-07, 12:02 AM	I take the entire tree as it becomes available. I sometimes wish that I had another feat or two, but life is about choices. Fighters do have plenty of feats..and no one else can take the entire tree.
Tequila_Sunrise 12-04-07, 01:43 AM	I just give fighters that warblade ability that lets them shift around their weapon specific feats with an hour of practice or whatever and then expand the weapon focus chain to include Supreme WF and Supreme WS at 16th and 20th level. That's a total of +3 AB and +6 damage to basically every single attack a fighter makes at level 20--I think that's pretty damn appealing. Does anyone else feel like Weapon Focus should be a fighter only feat?