Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Suzaku455 04-24-07, 04:57 PM	All characters will start out with Max hp at first level + con modifier and an addition +10 HP debit. To pay off this hp debit you'll roll for HP as normal but don't gain extra HP until you finish paying off the debit. For example A level 3 rogue rolls a 3 and 6 for his HP roll meaning he has paid off 9 points of hp debit but didn't gain any extra hp. Now when he levels he rolls a 4, but since he still has 1 hp to pay off he will only gain 3 HP and would now have a total of 19 HP + Con modifier. New HP rolls for classes D4 is normal D6 is now D4 +2 each level then add con modifier D8 is now D6 +2 each level then add con modifier D10 is now D8 +2 each level then add con modifier D12 is now D10 +2 each level then add con modifier
Chincymcchilla 04-24-07, 05:21 PM	My only question is why? What problem or issue does this address?
IronMouse 04-24-07, 05:22 PM	Instead of simply +10, you could use the con score. But I like the idea.
DinwathSereglin 04-24-07, 07:57 PM	Using CON score or full HP plus a free toughness could both be a good alternative.
Ics 04-24-07, 08:17 PM	The d4 is kinda getting shafted here imho. I'd change the d4 to d2+2 to keep with the pattern.
MCage 04-24-07, 10:03 PM	I have to second the useing the con to pay off the debt. But i do like that idea, i tend to like high end campaigns but i still use low levels (1-5) as sort of teaching levels when i play with new folk (omg im so making a "newfolk" race now) so giving then a HP bonus would be nice to help them live when they make obvious tactical errors.
Suzaku455 04-25-07, 12:53 PM	My only question is why? What problem or issue does this address? Have you ever played first level adventures? First level is lethal but it's also the learning levels of the game.
Millennium 04-25-07, 01:26 PM	Have you ever played first level adventures? First level is lethal but it's also the learning levels of the game. Yes, but I don't see how this helps first-level adventurers. You end up with the same amount of HP at first level than you did before, only now you've got this "debt" to deal with in later levels.
Nathreet 04-25-07, 02:21 PM	I think he means you get an extra +10 HP at 1st level, but you pay it back later. Purpose seems to be to help fragile 1st-3rd level characters. IMO you already get +10 HP of unconciousness, which does an excellent job at lower levels (and doesn't do so much at higher levels). Though in a solo campaign it doesn't help. As for the changes in HP rolls, it seems needlessly complicated. It basically averages out to +1 HP per level, although it keeps you from rolling either a 1 or max HP.
Geoste 04-25-07, 02:36 PM	New HP rolls for classes D4 is normal D6 is now D4 +2 each level then add con modifier D8 is now D6 +2 each level then add con modifier D10 is now D8 +2 each level then add con modifier D12 is now D10 +2 each level then add con modifier You stole this house rule from me. ;) Actually, I handle the D4 as 1d3+1. I did this because rolling a 1 HPs really suck.
RobbyPants 04-25-07, 03:24 PM	The d4 is kinda getting shafted here imho. I'd change the d4 to d2+2 to keep with the pattern. Actually, I handle the D4 as 1d3+1. Agreed. I would use either one of these, but I wouldn't just treat the d4 as d4, if the other die types get a boost. All in all, the idea is nice. It give you a solid boost to your HP at ~ levels 1-4, and after that, the boost goes away. It can help with staying power at these lower levels.
LadyAlaria 04-25-07, 04:06 PM	1. Make the d4 into d2+2. 2. Accept the accolades - this is an excellent way to make the low levels survivable - especially for the spellcasters - without unbalancing anything. The classes that are helps most are the ones that need it at that level. And it mechanically makes a little more sense than fighters having roughly triple the HP as wizards.