Illithid Bloodline? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Illithid Bloodline? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Evil Orchid
07-29-05, 05:00 PM I think it's Unearthed Arcana that goes into characters with celestial or monstrous bllodlines, but is there such a thing as a human with an illithid bloodline?

:coolcthul

Of so, how would the stats look?
*just looking for interesting monster ideas.*
Ogg
07-29-05, 05:18 PM The closest you get is the 2 Gith offshoots in the Expanded Psi handbook. They were a humanoid race heavily tampered with by Mind Flayers, of course they hate them now, and each other
Contrast
07-29-05, 05:33 PM The possibility of an Illithid bloodline was discussed many times in the Unearthed Arcana and Houserules section of the message boards.

The consensus was that, no, there cannot be such a thing as an illithid bloodline.
Vestigial_Thumb
07-29-05, 05:46 PM Yeah, the illithids are asexual creatures, so no bloodlines for you :cool:
Manyfist
07-29-05, 05:54 PM The only thing close is Half-Illithid, in which a Tadpole Illithid goes into a Non-Human, they reproduce the same manner as Illithid, but they never get too. Illithid kill them and throw their corpses to the rest of the Underdark.
WraithCaller
07-29-05, 06:09 PM Well, actually, the reason why Illithids don't have 'bloodlines' is because they don't reproduce in a traditional sense. They lay eggs, which grow into tadpoles, which they insert into the heads of host creatures. The closest thing you could possibly get would be a half-illithid, which results from a tadpole inserted into the head of a non-mammal host.

Pretty much, only humans, elves, drow, githzerai, githyanki, grimlocks, gnolls, goblinoids, and orcs produce true illithids. Tadpoles inserted into anything else produces a half-illithid, which would be infertile. Two example half-illithids are Tzkandi (half-illithid/half-lizardfolk) and Mindwitnesses (half-illithid/half-beholder).
magmer2
08-06-05, 12:17 AM "bloodlines maybe the result of unusual supernatural energies during conception pregnancy, or birth"

I think that an illithid blood line could come about if a pregnant what ever got mindblasted by an illithid, or if that happened during conception.
Khan the Destroyer
08-06-05, 02:26 PM I don't know where the information came from, but there is reportedly instances where ceremorphosis leaves the humanoid body intact but changes the mind of the creature. What you have is a creature with an Illithid mindset and psionic abilities while still remaining humanoid in appearance. The Illithid use these creatures as spies.

One of these creatures can possibly reproduce with a human or something and create an Illithid bloodline.
Vestigial_Thumb
08-06-05, 04:32 PM I don't know where the information came from, but there is reportedly instances where ceremorphosis leaves the humanoid body intact but changes the mind of the creature. What you have is a creature with an Illithid mindset and psionic abilities while still remaining humanoid in appearance. The Illithid use these creatures as spies.

One of these creatures can possibly reproduce with a human or something and create an Illithid bloodline.
Well, that might just be possible. Ceremorphosis can go wrong in so many different ways (neothelid is the best example). I'd guess the creature becomes lawful evil and gains the mental ability scores of a regular illithid. Sounds a pretty big LA to me :)
neilthrun
08-21-05, 04:56 PM Just saw this and felt like mentioning that a shapechanged mindflayer could produce some kind of crazy bloodline. Much like half-dragons.
magmer2
08-23-05, 12:21 AM I think most of you are reading into the name of the system and ignoring the flavor. According to unearthed Arcana the paternitymight have something to do with getting a bloodline. Getting the blood line from a polymorphed illithid is just as likely as getting it from a mother who ate nothing but raw illithid brains for her whole pregnancy. Just something for people to consider.
Voila!
08-25-05, 05:28 AM I don't know where the information came from, but there is reportedly instances where ceremorphosis leaves the humanoid body intact but changes the mind of the creature. What you have is a creature with an Illithid mindset and psionic abilities while still remaining humanoid in appearance. The Illithid use these creatures as spies.

What, so now there needs to be a tainted one template for illithids?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Evil Orchid 07-29-05, 05:00 PM	I think it's Unearthed Arcana that goes into characters with celestial or monstrous bllodlines, but is there such a thing as a human with an illithid bloodline? :coolcthul Of so, how would the stats look? just looking for interesting monster ideas.
Ogg 07-29-05, 05:18 PM	The closest you get is the 2 Gith offshoots in the Expanded Psi handbook. They were a humanoid race heavily tampered with by Mind Flayers, of course they hate them now, and each other
Contrast 07-29-05, 05:33 PM	The possibility of an Illithid bloodline was discussed many times in the Unearthed Arcana and Houserules section of the message boards. The consensus was that, no, there cannot be such a thing as an illithid bloodline.
Vestigial_Thumb 07-29-05, 05:46 PM	Yeah, the illithids are asexual creatures, so no bloodlines for you :cool:
Manyfist 07-29-05, 05:54 PM	The only thing close is Half-Illithid, in which a Tadpole Illithid goes into a Non-Human, they reproduce the same manner as Illithid, but they never get too. Illithid kill them and throw their corpses to the rest of the Underdark.
WraithCaller 07-29-05, 06:09 PM	Well, actually, the reason why Illithids don't have 'bloodlines' is because they don't reproduce in a traditional sense. They lay eggs, which grow into tadpoles, which they insert into the heads of host creatures. The closest thing you could possibly get would be a half-illithid, which results from a tadpole inserted into the head of a non-mammal host. Pretty much, only humans, elves, drow, githzerai, githyanki, grimlocks, gnolls, goblinoids, and orcs produce true illithids. Tadpoles inserted into anything else produces a half-illithid, which would be infertile. Two example half-illithids are Tzkandi (half-illithid/half-lizardfolk) and Mindwitnesses (half-illithid/half-beholder).
magmer2 08-06-05, 12:17 AM	"bloodlines maybe the result of unusual supernatural energies during conception pregnancy, or birth" I think that an illithid blood line could come about if a pregnant what ever got mindblasted by an illithid, or if that happened during conception.
Khan the Destroyer 08-06-05, 02:26 PM	I don't know where the information came from, but there is reportedly instances where ceremorphosis leaves the humanoid body intact but changes the mind of the creature. What you have is a creature with an Illithid mindset and psionic abilities while still remaining humanoid in appearance. The Illithid use these creatures as spies. One of these creatures can possibly reproduce with a human or something and create an Illithid bloodline.
Vestigial_Thumb 08-06-05, 04:32 PM	I don't know where the information came from, but there is reportedly instances where ceremorphosis leaves the humanoid body intact but changes the mind of the creature. What you have is a creature with an Illithid mindset and psionic abilities while still remaining humanoid in appearance. The Illithid use these creatures as spies. One of these creatures can possibly reproduce with a human or something and create an Illithid bloodline. Well, that might just be possible. Ceremorphosis can go wrong in so many different ways (neothelid is the best example). I'd guess the creature becomes lawful evil and gains the mental ability scores of a regular illithid. Sounds a pretty big LA to me :)
neilthrun 08-21-05, 04:56 PM	Just saw this and felt like mentioning that a shapechanged mindflayer could produce some kind of crazy bloodline. Much like half-dragons.
magmer2 08-23-05, 12:21 AM	I think most of you are reading into the name of the system and ignoring the flavor. According to unearthed Arcana the paternitymight have something to do with getting a bloodline. Getting the blood line from a polymorphed illithid is just as likely as getting it from a mother who ate nothing but raw illithid brains for her whole pregnancy. Just something for people to consider.
Voila! 08-25-05, 05:28 AM	I don't know where the information came from, but there is reportedly instances where ceremorphosis leaves the humanoid body intact but changes the mind of the creature. What you have is a creature with an Illithid mindset and psionic abilities while still remaining humanoid in appearance. The Illithid use these creatures as spies. What, so now there needs to be a tainted one template for illithids?