Magic Healing in the WP/VP system [Archive] - Wizards Community

Magic Healing in the WP/VP system [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
CravesLove
09-20-05, 11:35 AM I was wondering what everyone thought of the way Cure Light Wounds works in the WP/VP system from UA.

It seems the portion that is rolled (1d8)is applied to VP, while the +x portion from level is applied to WP.

In a game I'm playing in, there is some concern that once WP is completely healed, any additional CLW will be wasting a portion of its capability.

Has there been any consensus on whether points 'rollover' from WP into VP, in cases where WP if fully healed but VP is still low?

ex. Feddie the Fighter just came out of combat with 2 WP damage, and 20 VP damage. Cassie the Cleric (level 4) casts CLW to heal him - rolling 3 + 4 which would normaly mean she heals Freddie for 3 VP and 4 WP. Now Freddie definitely needs those VP, but he only needs 2 WP. What happens to the 2 WP healing potential remaining? What happens when Cassie casts CLW again?

Thanks for any help,
Fitz
RaspK FOG
09-20-05, 11:54 AM I would use the rules for spells that cure a non-dice-based, variable number of hit points.
Gold Katana
09-20-05, 12:37 PM We are using WP/VP and so far it is working well. We allow any "extra" WP's to be transferred to VP's but not the other way around.
Jerks
09-20-05, 01:49 PM Yeah, if you read the entire description of healing it says that any effect that heals a set number of hit points, instead heals wounds first and then vitality.

So extrapolating from that, my group has ruled that for Cure spells the die roll can only ever apply to Vitality, but the "set" amount applies first to Wounds, with any bleed-over going to Vitality.
Seraphina_
09-20-05, 05:46 PM I think it's fine by the book, I use the WP/VP system and my players think they are being cheated of their heals. It forces a healer to actually make decisions on when to heal. That's the point of using the system, to get a grittier game.

It's intended for low-magic games, the system frees up the cleric to do other things.
lostone
09-21-05, 12:55 PM Another option is this:

If a spell heals xdy+z hit points, roll it, apply x (number of dice rolled) to WP, subtract that number from the rolled result and apply the remainder to the VP. This is how we did it in Star Wars d20 and it worked great.
CravesLove
09-22-05, 02:32 PM Thank you for the input everyone. I don't believe my GM was swayed by this thread, but its good to know the general feeling.

Regards,
Fitz

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CravesLove 09-20-05, 11:35 AM	I was wondering what everyone thought of the way Cure Light Wounds works in the WP/VP system from UA. It seems the portion that is rolled (1d8)is applied to VP, while the +x portion from level is applied to WP. In a game I'm playing in, there is some concern that once WP is completely healed, any additional CLW will be wasting a portion of its capability. Has there been any consensus on whether points 'rollover' from WP into VP, in cases where WP if fully healed but VP is still low? ex. Feddie the Fighter just came out of combat with 2 WP damage, and 20 VP damage. Cassie the Cleric (level 4) casts CLW to heal him - rolling 3 + 4 which would normaly mean she heals Freddie for 3 VP and 4 WP. Now Freddie definitely needs those VP, but he only needs 2 WP. What happens to the 2 WP healing potential remaining? What happens when Cassie casts CLW again? Thanks for any help, Fitz
RaspK FOG 09-20-05, 11:54 AM	I would use the rules for spells that cure a non-dice-based, variable number of hit points.
Gold Katana 09-20-05, 12:37 PM	We are using WP/VP and so far it is working well. We allow any "extra" WP's to be transferred to VP's but not the other way around.
Jerks 09-20-05, 01:49 PM	Yeah, if you read the entire description of healing it says that any effect that heals a set number of hit points, instead heals wounds first and then vitality. So extrapolating from that, my group has ruled that for Cure spells the die roll can only ever apply to Vitality, but the "set" amount applies first to Wounds, with any bleed-over going to Vitality.
Seraphina_ 09-20-05, 05:46 PM	I think it's fine by the book, I use the WP/VP system and my players think they are being cheated of their heals. It forces a healer to actually make decisions on when to heal. That's the point of using the system, to get a grittier game. It's intended for low-magic games, the system frees up the cleric to do other things.
lostone 09-21-05, 12:55 PM	Another option is this: If a spell heals xdy+z hit points, roll it, apply x (number of dice rolled) to WP, subtract that number from the rolled result and apply the remainder to the VP. This is how we did it in Star Wars d20 and it worked great.
CravesLove 09-22-05, 02:32 PM	Thank you for the input everyone. I don't believe my GM was swayed by this thread, but its good to know the general feeling. Regards, Fitz