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Stryfe_Raven

08-17-04, 06:45 AM
for all of you tired of human tanks in +10 full-plate armor I present Defensive feats for you quick and nimble warriors


DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Benefit: You gain a +1 defense bonus to your AC at level one and every 5 levels there after (maxium +5 at level 20).
These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the character is flat-footed. They loses these
bonuses when they are immobilized or helpless, when they are wearing armor heavyer then light, carring more then
a light load or when using more then a buckler..
Normal: Only armor increases AC
Special: This bonus stacks with the natural bonus of the Monk.
A fighter may select Defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats.

IMPROVED DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Defensive traning
Benefit: Your Defense bonus increases by +1 this stacks with the benefits granted by Defensive training.
Normal: Only armor increases AC
Special: This bonus stacks with the natural bonus of the Monk.
A fighter may select Improved defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats

GREATER DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Defensive traning, Improved defensive training
Benefit: Your Defense bonus increases by +2 this stacks with the benefits granted by Defensive training.
Normal: Only armor increases AC
Special: This bonus stacks with the natural bonus of the Monk.
A fighter may select Greater defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats

EXPERT DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Defensive traning, Improved defensive training, Greater defensive training.
Benefit: Your Defense bonus increases by +2 this stacks with the benefits granted by Defensive training.
Normal: Only armor increases AC
Special: This bonus stacks with the natural bonus of the Monk.
A fighter may select Expert defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats

With all four feats a normal characters defense bonus is only +10, a monks would be +14 before wisdom modifier.
Nuntius128

08-17-04, 10:55 AM
hmm... I like em. I don't know how balanced they are, but very nicely done. Since they apply to Touch attacks, would that make them Dodge Bonuses?
jkovacik

08-17-04, 11:08 AM
I like the idea. I'd personally change it as follows, though. (Added BAB prereqs and removed the level-dependent effects, since most feats don't have that mechanic.)

DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Benefit: +1 Insight bonus to AC. This bonus is lost if the user is in medium or heavy armor.
A fighter may select Defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats.

IMPROVED DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Defensive traning, BAB +4
Benefit: +3 Insight bonus to AC. This bonus is lost if the user is in medium or heavy armor. (Note that this bonus superceeds the bonus from Defensive Training.)
A fighter may select Improved defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats.

GREATER DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Improved defensive training, BAB +8
Benefit: +5 Insight bonus to AC. This bonus is lost if the user is in medium or heavy armor. (Note that this bonus superceeds the bonus from Improved Defensive Training.)
A fighter may select Greater defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats.

EXPERT DEFENSIVE TRAINING [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Greater defensive training, BAB +12
Benefit: +7 Insight bonus to AC. This bonus is lost if the user is in medium or heavy armor. (Note that this bonus superceeds the bonus from Greater Defensive Training.)
A fighter may select Expert defensive training as one of his fighter bonus feats.

Edit: Note that a warrior in mithril chain mail +5 has an AC only 3 lower than full plate, and with this, they would actually have an AC 4 better than the full-plate warrior, without the movement penalties.