No bonus spell points for intelligence items? [Archive] - Wizards Community

No bonus spell points for intelligence items? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Kaerts
03-15-04, 01:45 AM I apologize if this has been gone over before, but I didn't see a thread on it. At any rate, my wizard made a shiny new plus 5 intelligence item to help get spell points only to later find out that intelligence items under the spell point system do not grant extra spell points and only affect spells known a day and Save DCs. Is there any reason why to this? Any ideas? Doesn't seem to make sense to me at all to be honest, and makes intelligence items a *lot* less useful to wizards. Just looking for thoughts/suggestions. Thanks!
Ulden Throatbane
03-15-04, 02:24 AM Well, the item would skill grant you additional spell slots for your "known" spells for that day.
Fiendish Banana Golem
03-15-04, 03:10 PM A fellow player in my game thought it might be a mistake for the following reason;

Fox's Cunning, Owl's Wisdom, and Eagle's Splendor specifically state they do not grant bonus spells. The items that are based off of those spells do not state whether they do or do not grant bonus spells, but the spells they are based upon state they do not, therefore, they would not-if not for the FAQ, which states that they do infact grant bonus spells.

Perhaps the people who were writing that part of UA were unaware of the ruling that Int/Wis/Cha-boosting items grant bonus spells under core 3.5, and therefore kept the assumption of "stat items will not allow casting of additional spells".

Amusingly enough, Sorcerers get even more hosed by this-an Int item for a Wizard will not allow said Wizard to cast more spells, but will add "spells known per day" that they can put in their spell template...while a Sorcerer's spells known per day are fixed.
Kaerts
03-16-04, 03:04 AM I thought it was a mistake to be honest. That's what the book reads though so there isn't much I can do about it I suppose, at least until some errata comes out.
Ulden Throatbane
03-16-04, 01:11 PM Since these are all optional rules, though, you can alter them however you want to. I tend to think of a lot of stuff in UA as suggestion that are either half-implemented, modified, or simply springboards to new variants

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kaerts 03-15-04, 01:45 AM	I apologize if this has been gone over before, but I didn't see a thread on it. At any rate, my wizard made a shiny new plus 5 intelligence item to help get spell points only to later find out that intelligence items under the spell point system do not grant extra spell points and only affect spells known a day and Save DCs. Is there any reason why to this? Any ideas? Doesn't seem to make sense to me at all to be honest, and makes intelligence items a lot less useful to wizards. Just looking for thoughts/suggestions. Thanks!
Ulden Throatbane 03-15-04, 02:24 AM	Well, the item would skill grant you additional spell slots for your "known" spells for that day.
Fiendish Banana Golem 03-15-04, 03:10 PM	A fellow player in my game thought it might be a mistake for the following reason; Fox's Cunning, Owl's Wisdom, and Eagle's Splendor specifically state they do not grant bonus spells. The items that are based off of those spells do not state whether they do or do not grant bonus spells, but the spells they are based upon state they do not, therefore, they would not-if not for the FAQ, which states that they do infact grant bonus spells. Perhaps the people who were writing that part of UA were unaware of the ruling that Int/Wis/Cha-boosting items grant bonus spells under core 3.5, and therefore kept the assumption of "stat items will not allow casting of additional spells". Amusingly enough, Sorcerers get even more hosed by this-an Int item for a Wizard will not allow said Wizard to cast more spells, but will add "spells known per day" that they can put in their spell template...while a Sorcerer's spells known per day are fixed.
Kaerts 03-16-04, 03:04 AM	I thought it was a mistake to be honest. That's what the book reads though so there isn't much I can do about it I suppose, at least until some errata comes out.
Ulden Throatbane 03-16-04, 01:11 PM	Since these are all optional rules, though, you can alter them however you want to. I tend to think of a lot of stuff in UA as suggestion that are either half-implemented, modified, or simply springboards to new variants