Noob to gestalting [Archive] - Wizards Community

Noob to gestalting [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Diffan
07-01-07, 02:10 PM Ok, my turn at DM is coming up soon and I really want to try a Gestalt campaign. Problem is, after reading Unearthed Arcana and reading the boards, I'm a little confused. So, for example I make a level 1 Fighter 1//Wizard 1. I would progress those two classes together at each level. Now, if I add a PrC, then the book says that I can only advance 1 other base class. Is this right? Also, I'm letting my PC's take PrC's that allow them full BAB and Spell-progression, like Fist of Raziel for example, also, I'm requireing my PC's to have at least 5 levels in their original base classes before I let them PrC, as well as NO multi-classing. Any suggestions, comments, concerns that I could use for starting out. Keep in mind that if a few PC's try to break the game, i'll just make it that much harder. Thanks!

-Diffan
calronmoonflower
07-01-07, 03:53 PM You take the best:
base attack bonus
skill points (but you use both skill lists as class skills)
saves (all three separate)
hit points

For class features you get both unless they are the same feature (except spell casting).

For your fighter/wizard I'd suggest using the armored mage variant class feature from the Complete Mage or you would still have arcane spell failure in armor.
Diffan
07-01-07, 09:07 PM You take the best:
base attack bonus
skill points (but you use both skill lists as class skills)
saves (all three separate)
hit points

For class features you get both unless they are the same feature (except spell casting).

For your fighter/wizard I'd suggest using the armored mage variant class feature from the Complete Mage or you would still have arcane spell failure in armor.

Ok, gotcha. The Fighter/Wizard gestalt was an example, but yea, definitly take Armored Mage AFC. Do I have the level progression correct? I can only progress 1 base class and 1 PrC at the same time?
calronmoonflower
07-01-07, 09:26 PM yes
KalTorak
07-04-07, 03:41 PM Question:

If one of my PC's does a DrD/Wiz combo, will he then get both animal companions.
calronmoonflower
07-04-07, 04:22 PM Question:

If one of my PC's does a DrD/Wiz combo, will he then get both animal companions.

:confused:

You would get an animal companion and a familiar. They are two separate class features.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Diffan 07-01-07, 02:10 PM	Ok, my turn at DM is coming up soon and I really want to try a Gestalt campaign. Problem is, after reading Unearthed Arcana and reading the boards, I'm a little confused. So, for example I make a level 1 Fighter 1//Wizard 1. I would progress those two classes together at each level. Now, if I add a PrC, then the book says that I can only advance 1 other base class. Is this right? Also, I'm letting my PC's take PrC's that allow them full BAB and Spell-progression, like Fist of Raziel for example, also, I'm requireing my PC's to have at least 5 levels in their original base classes before I let them PrC, as well as NO multi-classing. Any suggestions, comments, concerns that I could use for starting out. Keep in mind that if a few PC's try to break the game, i'll just make it that much harder. Thanks! -Diffan
calronmoonflower 07-01-07, 03:53 PM	You take the best: base attack bonus skill points (but you use both skill lists as class skills) saves (all three separate) hit points For class features you get both unless they are the same feature (except spell casting). For your fighter/wizard I'd suggest using the armored mage variant class feature from the Complete Mage or you would still have arcane spell failure in armor.
Diffan 07-01-07, 09:07 PM	You take the best: base attack bonus skill points (but you use both skill lists as class skills) saves (all three separate) hit points For class features you get both unless they are the same feature (except spell casting). For your fighter/wizard I'd suggest using the armored mage variant class feature from the Complete Mage or you would still have arcane spell failure in armor. Ok, gotcha. The Fighter/Wizard gestalt was an example, but yea, definitly take Armored Mage AFC. Do I have the level progression correct? I can only progress 1 base class and 1 PrC at the same time?
calronmoonflower 07-01-07, 09:26 PM	yes
KalTorak 07-04-07, 03:41 PM	Question: If one of my PC's does a DrD/Wiz combo, will he then get both animal companions.
calronmoonflower 07-04-07, 04:22 PM	Question: If one of my PC's does a DrD/Wiz combo, will he then get both animal companions. :confused: You would get an animal companion and a familiar. They are two separate class features.