Paragon Gestalt? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Archmage_of_Blood

12-30-06, 02:35 PM
Is it possible to use, say, paragon human as one of your classes? If so, what happens to a human paragon/wizard? At 1st, you cast a a 1st level Wiz. At 2nd, the Wizard would cast as a 2nd level Wiz, and Human paragon gives +1 to that. So you have a 2nd level character who can cast as a 3rd level Wizard. At 3rd level, another Wiz level, casting as a level 4 Wizard. Human paragon gives another +1 to casting.

Does all this mean that you have a 3rd level character who can cast a 5th level Wizard?
unundindur

12-30-06, 03:12 PM
No. I don't have the rules in front of me but I am 100% certain it is written that you cannot gain two progressions in the same spell-progression simultaneously.
Silverthumb128

12-30-06, 10:11 PM
I think I heard somewhere that the Paragon classes are technically PrCs. And PrCs can't be Gestalted. Although, I might be wrong, and can't cite right now, so take that for what its worth. ;)
jagggar

12-30-06, 10:32 PM
Gestalt (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/gestaltCharacters.htm)

Class Features
A gestalt character gains the class features of both classes. A 1st-level gestalt rogue/cleric, for example, gets sneak attack +1d6, trapfinding, 1st-level cleric spells, and the ability to turn or rebuke undead. Class- and ability-based restrictions (such as arcane spell failure chance and a druid’s prohibition on wearing metal armor) apply normally to a gestalt character, no matter what the other class is.

A gestalt character follows a similar procedure when he attains 2nd and subsequent levels. Each time he gains a new level, he chooses two classes, takes the best aspects of each, and applies them to his characteristics. A few caveats apply, however.

Class features that two classes share (such as uncanny dodge) accrue at the rate of the faster class.
Gestalt characters with more than one spellcasting class keep track of their spells per day separately.
A gestalt character can’t combine two prestige classes at any level, although it’s okay to combine a prestige class and a regular class. Prestige classes that are essentially class combinations-such as the arcane trickster, mystic theurge, and eldritch knight-should be prohibited if you’re using gestalt classes, because they unduly complicate the game balance of what’s already a high-powered variant. Because it’s possible for gestalt characters to qualify for prestige classes earlier than normal, the game master is entirely justified in toughening the prerequisites of a prestige class so it’s available only after 5th level, even for gestalt characters.

Since the wizard gains spellcasting as a wizard faster than the paragon, you use the wizard's spellcasting progression. A Wizard 3//Human Paragon 3 casts spells as a Wizard 3.

You could, however, take a level of a different spellcasting class first and then improve that class's casting with your paragon levels. For example, Wizard 4//Cleric 1/Human Paragon 3 would cast spells as a Wizard 4 and a Cleric 3.
Archmage_of_Blood

12-30-06, 11:42 PM
Oops. I forgot. Thank you.