Prestige Class Bard [Archive] - Wizards Community

Prestige Class Bard [Archive] - Wizards Community

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GreyLord
04-23-04, 03:31 PM I have to say, I like this. It feels more like the Bard from older editions, combining items from both the Bard of 1e to a degree (Thief/Mage or Fighter, or a Fighter Mage, the idea of having classes and working your way up to it....as well as the versitality of the original Bard, in that it combines in a way the ability to have a Fighter and a Magic user both, at the same time, but not quite up to par in equal power to a pure mage or Fighter.

I like it, thinking about when I next run a 3e game and including these prestige classes.

What are your thoughts about using them as well as allowing the normal Bard/Ranger/Paladin classes. The prestige classes are overall, more powerful, but they also require some work (like all prestige classes) to match the requirements first.
Cathon
04-23-04, 06:00 PM Well, a core class Bard shouldn't be allowed to take Prestige Bard at the very least. (What would that mean?)

My mind has pictured a bardic college, actually. Some students are apprenticed there as young boys, and graduate as class bard. Others come at an older age, looking to learn, and if they meet the requirements for entry, can become prestige bards. This also could work with Paladins, (Prestige Paladin reminds me of Anomen from Baldur's Gate 2, trying to become a knight of the order after being a fighter and a cleric) though it seems a little weird for Ranger, but that just might be the concept of Ranger school is weird.

Still the question is why are they prestige class bards, etc, instead of just having gained a level of core class bard?
Ryan_Singer
04-23-04, 06:59 PM The way I understand it isthe prestige bard/paladin/ranger variants completely replace the core classes. In a campaign using the prestige bard, a low level "bard" would simple be a rogue/ftr/wiz working his way to bard.-Ryan
jagggar
04-23-04, 09:21 PM Yes, the core class isn't supposed to be allowed if you use the PrC version.

Perhaps the PrC Ranger seeks out another ranger who will only teach the PrC after he's survived on his own for a while.

One of the concepts I've got for my homebrew is making a Divine Bard PrC. Somehow make it easy for a Cleric/Bard to enter, but a bit harder for a straight Cleric to enter.
SMW
04-23-04, 11:53 PM One of my current GMs is using these rules, and I really do not enjoy them. I can see their use in some campaigns, but god it sucks not having a ranger or bard at low levels.. I have always enjoyed their companionship.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GreyLord 04-23-04, 03:31 PM	I have to say, I like this. It feels more like the Bard from older editions, combining items from both the Bard of 1e to a degree (Thief/Mage or Fighter, or a Fighter Mage, the idea of having classes and working your way up to it....as well as the versitality of the original Bard, in that it combines in a way the ability to have a Fighter and a Magic user both, at the same time, but not quite up to par in equal power to a pure mage or Fighter. I like it, thinking about when I next run a 3e game and including these prestige classes. What are your thoughts about using them as well as allowing the normal Bard/Ranger/Paladin classes. The prestige classes are overall, more powerful, but they also require some work (like all prestige classes) to match the requirements first.
Cathon 04-23-04, 06:00 PM	Well, a core class Bard shouldn't be allowed to take Prestige Bard at the very least. (What would that mean?) My mind has pictured a bardic college, actually. Some students are apprenticed there as young boys, and graduate as class bard. Others come at an older age, looking to learn, and if they meet the requirements for entry, can become prestige bards. This also could work with Paladins, (Prestige Paladin reminds me of Anomen from Baldur's Gate 2, trying to become a knight of the order after being a fighter and a cleric) though it seems a little weird for Ranger, but that just might be the concept of Ranger school is weird. Still the question is why are they prestige class bards, etc, instead of just having gained a level of core class bard?
Ryan_Singer 04-23-04, 06:59 PM	The way I understand it isthe prestige bard/paladin/ranger variants completely replace the core classes. In a campaign using the prestige bard, a low level "bard" would simple be a rogue/ftr/wiz working his way to bard.-Ryan
jagggar 04-23-04, 09:21 PM	Yes, the core class isn't supposed to be allowed if you use the PrC version. Perhaps the PrC Ranger seeks out another ranger who will only teach the PrC after he's survived on his own for a while. One of the concepts I've got for my homebrew is making a Divine Bard PrC. Somehow make it easy for a Cleric/Bard to enter, but a bit harder for a straight Cleric to enter.
SMW 04-23-04, 11:53 PM	One of my current GMs is using these rules, and I really do not enjoy them. I can see their use in some campaigns, but god it sucks not having a ranger or bard at low levels.. I have always enjoyed their companionship.