Ranger fast movement? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ranger fast movement? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Ukkic
05-15-07, 12:37 PM A few days ago I saw someone post something about a ranger variant class feature that allowed the substitution of fast movement for combat style or something like that, they said it was in Unearthed Arcana I think. I can't find it anywhere, does something like this exist? If so, where?

~Ukkic
RobbyPants
05-15-07, 12:41 PM There's a variant toward the beginning of the Complete Warrior that removes a ranger's spells and gives other abilities. At 6th level, their movement increases 10 feet.
Steely_Dan
05-15-07, 12:41 PM It is in Complete Warrior.
Perseus_Stoned
05-15-07, 12:42 PM On a side-note does anyone think those variants are worth the loss of spellcasting?
Steely_Dan
05-15-07, 12:47 PM On a side-note does anyone think those variants are worth the loss of spellcasting?

I don't think rangers should have spellcasting in the first place.
Perseus_Stoned
05-15-07, 01:33 PM I don't think rangers should have spellcasting in the first place.

I'd agree, which is why I considered these variants, but it seems like they don't even begin to reimburse you for your power loss.
Naderion
05-15-07, 06:16 PM It's a gain when you want to make it a multiclass character in the first place and don't plan to take more than 6 or 8 levels as ranger.
Steely_Dan
05-16-07, 04:13 AM It's a gain when you want to make it a multiclass character in the first place and don't plan to take more than 6 or 8 levels as ranger.

Absolutely, and from what I've seen you wouldn't want to take any levels past 11.
JulesCARV
05-16-07, 04:36 AM There's also a UA variant ranger (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/unearthedCoreClass.html#simple-ranger) who trades the three combat style feats for fast movement as a barbarian and wildshaping like a druid into small and medium animals, which sounds more like what Ukkic was talking about.
Shawno
05-17-07, 03:24 AM There's also a UA variant ranger (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/unearthedCoreClass.html#simple-ranger) who trades the three combat style feats for fast movement as a barbarian and wildshaping like a druid into small and medium animals, which sounds more like what Ukkic was talking about.

There's also a druid variant that loses wild shape and armor proficiencies in exchange for a ranger's tracking and favored enemy and the monk's AC bonuses and fast move. Given how cool druids are even without the spells (which they still keep in this version, just to be clear) and wild shape (given all the trackless step and so on) I've been intrigued. The idea, iirc, was to make a serious woodland (or wherever else) hunter.
RobbyPants
05-17-07, 09:26 AM There's also a druid variant that loses wild shape and armor proficiencies in exchange for a ranger's tracking and favored enemy and the monk's AC bonuses and fast move. Given how cool druids are even without the spells (which they still keep in this version, just to be clear) and wild shape (given all the trackless step and so on) I've been intrigued. The idea, iirc, was to make a serious woodland (or wherever else) hunter.
I think the idea is interesting, but wildshape is arguably a druid's best feature. As Rich Burlew (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0346.html) put it:

OOTS Druid (http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/Druid.jpg)
Shawno
05-20-07, 09:19 PM I think the idea is interesting, but wildshape is arguably a druid's best feature.

Oh agreed, but it's not appropriate for every character concept.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ukkic 05-15-07, 12:37 PM	A few days ago I saw someone post something about a ranger variant class feature that allowed the substitution of fast movement for combat style or something like that, they said it was in Unearthed Arcana I think. I can't find it anywhere, does something like this exist? If so, where? ~Ukkic
RobbyPants 05-15-07, 12:41 PM	There's a variant toward the beginning of the Complete Warrior that removes a ranger's spells and gives other abilities. At 6th level, their movement increases 10 feet.
Steely_Dan 05-15-07, 12:41 PM	It is in Complete Warrior.
Perseus_Stoned 05-15-07, 12:42 PM	On a side-note does anyone think those variants are worth the loss of spellcasting?
Steely_Dan 05-15-07, 12:47 PM	On a side-note does anyone think those variants are worth the loss of spellcasting? I don't think rangers should have spellcasting in the first place.
Perseus_Stoned 05-15-07, 01:33 PM	I don't think rangers should have spellcasting in the first place. I'd agree, which is why I considered these variants, but it seems like they don't even begin to reimburse you for your power loss.
Naderion 05-15-07, 06:16 PM	It's a gain when you want to make it a multiclass character in the first place and don't plan to take more than 6 or 8 levels as ranger.
Steely_Dan 05-16-07, 04:13 AM	It's a gain when you want to make it a multiclass character in the first place and don't plan to take more than 6 or 8 levels as ranger. Absolutely, and from what I've seen you wouldn't want to take any levels past 11.
JulesCARV 05-16-07, 04:36 AM	There's also a UA variant ranger (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/unearthedCoreClass.html#simple-ranger) who trades the three combat style feats for fast movement as a barbarian and wildshaping like a druid into small and medium animals, which sounds more like what Ukkic was talking about.
Shawno 05-17-07, 03:24 AM	There's also a UA variant ranger (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/unearthedCoreClass.html#simple-ranger) who trades the three combat style feats for fast movement as a barbarian and wildshaping like a druid into small and medium animals, which sounds more like what Ukkic was talking about. There's also a druid variant that loses wild shape and armor proficiencies in exchange for a ranger's tracking and favored enemy and the monk's AC bonuses and fast move. Given how cool druids are even without the spells (which they still keep in this version, just to be clear) and wild shape (given all the trackless step and so on) I've been intrigued. The idea, iirc, was to make a serious woodland (or wherever else) hunter.
RobbyPants 05-17-07, 09:26 AM	There's also a druid variant that loses wild shape and armor proficiencies in exchange for a ranger's tracking and favored enemy and the monk's AC bonuses and fast move. Given how cool druids are even without the spells (which they still keep in this version, just to be clear) and wild shape (given all the trackless step and so on) I've been intrigued. The idea, iirc, was to make a serious woodland (or wherever else) hunter. I think the idea is interesting, but wildshape is arguably a druid's best feature. As Rich Burlew (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0346.html) put it: OOTS Druid (http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/robbypants/Druid.jpg)
Shawno 05-20-07, 09:19 PM	I think the idea is interesting, but wildshape is arguably a druid's best feature. Oh agreed, but it's not appropriate for every character concept.