The magic point system and feats that increase casterlevel [Archive] - Wizards Community

The magic point system and feats that increase casterlevel [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Ertai Planeswalker
04-30-07, 07:39 PM I have a question about feats that increase casterlevel and using the MP system for spellcasting.

I play a 6th level sorcerer with the Bloodline of Fire, Fiery Burst and Spell Thematics feats, so i cast Fire spells at +4 CL in the normal system. I am considering asking my DM to allow me to use the magic point system because last campaign another friend played a psion and we all liked the system.

Now, if i'm correct, a character is not allowed to spend more magic points on a single spell than his casterlevel right? But would these feats allow me to break caps on that? For example, let's say i am level 9. A fireball spell costs me 5 MP, but i am allowed to spend 9 on a fireball spell. However, since my feats already increase the damage dealt by the fireball to maximum (From 6D6 to 10D6), can i then choose to make it an Empowerd Fireball instead? I mean, i am not spending more then 9 MP on it, so it should be legal. However, an empowered fireball is a 5th level spell, and thus would normally cost at least 11 MP, and as such be uncastable for a 9th level sorcerer.

So are CL increasing feats just a little more powerfull with the MP variant, or would you say that this requires additional ruling?
Ertai Planeswalker
05-03-07, 03:41 AM 2 Days, 14 views and no answer?
TrinityPower
05-03-07, 07:06 AM Well, if it ups your CL, by my understanding of the rules, this would allow you to pump SPs past the normal CL cap-off. So, works for me, lol.
Steely_Dan
05-03-07, 08:22 AM Well, if it ups your CL, by my understanding of the rules, this would allow you to pump SPs past the normal CL cap-off. So, works for me, lol.

Exactly, as a 9th level wizard you cannot spend more than 9 spell points on a spell, but if you had some feat that bumped up your caster level by +4 when casting spells with the fire descriptor, you could spend 13 spell points when casting a spell with the fire descriptor.
Ertai Planeswalker
05-03-07, 09:04 PM Thx. That makes these feats a lot better when using the MP system!

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Ertai Planeswalker 04-30-07, 07:39 PM	I have a question about feats that increase casterlevel and using the MP system for spellcasting. I play a 6th level sorcerer with the Bloodline of Fire, Fiery Burst and Spell Thematics feats, so i cast Fire spells at +4 CL in the normal system. I am considering asking my DM to allow me to use the magic point system because last campaign another friend played a psion and we all liked the system. Now, if i'm correct, a character is not allowed to spend more magic points on a single spell than his casterlevel right? But would these feats allow me to break caps on that? For example, let's say i am level 9. A fireball spell costs me 5 MP, but i am allowed to spend 9 on a fireball spell. However, since my feats already increase the damage dealt by the fireball to maximum (From 6D6 to 10D6), can i then choose to make it an Empowerd Fireball instead? I mean, i am not spending more then 9 MP on it, so it should be legal. However, an empowered fireball is a 5th level spell, and thus would normally cost at least 11 MP, and as such be uncastable for a 9th level sorcerer. So are CL increasing feats just a little more powerfull with the MP variant, or would you say that this requires additional ruling?
Ertai Planeswalker 05-03-07, 03:41 AM	2 Days, 14 views and no answer?
TrinityPower 05-03-07, 07:06 AM	Well, if it ups your CL, by my understanding of the rules, this would allow you to pump SPs past the normal CL cap-off. So, works for me, lol.
Steely_Dan 05-03-07, 08:22 AM	Well, if it ups your CL, by my understanding of the rules, this would allow you to pump SPs past the normal CL cap-off. So, works for me, lol. Exactly, as a 9th level wizard you cannot spend more than 9 spell points on a spell, but if you had some feat that bumped up your caster level by +4 when casting spells with the fire descriptor, you could spend 13 spell points when casting a spell with the fire descriptor.
Ertai Planeswalker 05-03-07, 09:04 PM	Thx. That makes these feats a lot better when using the MP system!