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Adlar Hodge 02-28-04, 01:56 PM	I like it. It makes sense, in a way, that a spellcaster would get "better" at casting his previously known spells over time (such as a fighter swinging his sword more efficently). I'm still wondering how I could make a divine/arcane spellcasting class combination work with this variant. Aren't arcane and divine magic two different sources (while drawn from the same source...in a way)?? What effect would the Magic Rating system have on Psionic classes? Thoughts, opinions, etc??
Zaebos 02-28-04, 03:29 PM	I use the option that arcane and divine classes don't stack with each other regarding magic rating. It makes more sense that way. Also, for psionics, I would do them the same progression as wizards on that table if they are a psion, or as a paladin if they are psionic warrior, also ruling that the magic rating doesn't stack with divine and arcane caster levels.
DragonWatcher 02-28-04, 03:52 PM	I understand why people would feel that it doesn't make sense for divine and arcane class levels to stack for magic rating. However, I also don't think that it makes sense for it to give you a bonus to magic rating taking levels in a non-spellcasting class (like fighter), but advancing in another spellcasting class would not add at all. What I will likely do in my game is if a character multiclasses in a divine and arcane spellcasting class, for each magic rating I will count the other class as a non-spellcasting class. So, a Wizard 4/Cleric 6 would count as though having a Magic Rating of 5 as a wizard, and a Magic Rating of 7 for Cleric. I mean, yeah, the spellcasting methods are different, but if Fighter gives you something, than another spellcasting class should as well. As for psionics, I like using psionics being different from magic. So in my games, Spell Resistance does nothing to stop psionic manifestations. For a game like this, psionic characters would likely count as non-spellcasters for my game (since developing psionic abilities also takes time and energy). If you are not using the psionics and magic are different rule, then I would count psionic classes as "partial caster" classes across the board.
DarkThoughts24 02-28-04, 11:18 PM	always used the 2e standard of psionics is different. so would consider it a variant spellcasting class like arcane and divine so 10psion10wizard functions as the 12/12 for the sake of caster level and i intend to use magic/psi ratings now here is my question, what about a wizard turned forsaker... if he hever relapses into his weak magic using ways, would his forsaker level grant increased aptitude to the oathbreaker?
Jack Daniel 02-28-04, 11:29 PM	I'm running that arcane, divine, and psionics all stack for the purpose of magic rating. I figure it's not at all overpowering for a wizard 3/cleric 3/psion 3 to use all of his powers as a 9th-level character, since he's, y'know, a 9th-level character...
Greyman 02-29-04, 04:23 AM	I'm using one rating fits all. Well, the purpose of Magic Rating is to give multiclass spellcasters a synergic boost, and divine-arcane cross-classes need it a little more than classes that use the same casting attribute. Plus cross-casting multiclasses seem to be used a little more often. Also, the Spellcraft skill works the same whether it is used on an arcane or divine spell. So I figure that magic is magic whatever the source. Besides, I'm already using complete transparency between magic and psionics effects so suddenly going opaque between arcane and divine makes no sense in my campaign. But, do what ever fits your game.