tools as weapons? [Archive] - Wizards Community

tools as weapons? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
DarQuing
04-28-05, 07:08 AM Hi, all! I'm going to be running an Eberron campaign in the not-too-distant future and one of my characters is going to be a Warforged Figher/Artificer/Spell-Carved Soldier (should be an interesting character). He wants his primary melee weapon to be a wrench (also the name of his character), and his secondary melee is going to be a screwdriver. The player tends to make interesting characters.

At the moment I'm treating the wrench as a one-handed bludgeoning weapon (damage=club) and the screwdriver as a light piercing weapon (damage/cost=dagger 1 size category smaller than a dagger of an equal size (med dagger deals 1d4 damage, med screwdriver deals damage = small dagger) that can be thrown like a dagger.

Do these sound okay to you? Give me your thoughts, opinions, etc.
HailSpork
04-28-05, 10:56 AM Have you ever thrown a screwdriver? It's not very effective. A dagger is balanced for being used as a weapon (and throws well), a screwdriver is very unbalanced. In fact, the primary concern of the screwdriver is to maximize torque. Should be fine for stabbing though.

Aside from that, it looks fine. If a character were just picking up a tool, I'd assign a -4 non-proficiency penalty, but if that's the point of the character, it's fine to forego it.
DarQuing
04-29-05, 05:48 AM Have you ever thrown a screwdriver? It's not very effective. A dagger is balanced for being used as a weapon (and throws well), a screwdriver is very unbalanced. In fact, the primary concern of the screwdriver is to maximize torque. Should be fine for stabbing though.

Aside from that, it looks fine. If a character were just picking up a tool, I'd assign a -4 non-proficiency penalty, but if that's the point of the character, it's fine to forego it.
*nods* I have actually and I agree, normally its not designed to be thrown. However, since that's the point of his character, it probably wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume that he somehow managed to adjust it to be thrown.
Yak of Darkness
04-30-05, 09:58 PM Sounds fine, although you may want to take slashing damage away from the screwdriver!dagger, keeping it at just piercing.

Otherwise, it's always nice to see DMs willing to set a few rules aside to let a player try something new and fun. ^_^
DarQuing
04-30-05, 10:49 PM Sounds fine, although you may want to take slashing damage away from the screwdriver!dagger, keeping it at just piercing.
*nods* That's what I was going to do (semi-great minds think alike sometimes ;)).

Otherwise, it's always nice to see DMs willing to set a few rules aside to let a player try something new and fun. ^_^
Thank you! This player tends to come up with interesting ideas and the concept sounds rather interesting.

On a semi-related note: the racial substitution for warforged fighters has a d12. Would that be for the entire class or just for the substitution levels?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DarQuing 04-28-05, 07:08 AM	Hi, all! I'm going to be running an Eberron campaign in the not-too-distant future and one of my characters is going to be a Warforged Figher/Artificer/Spell-Carved Soldier (should be an interesting character). He wants his primary melee weapon to be a wrench (also the name of his character), and his secondary melee is going to be a screwdriver. The player tends to make interesting characters. At the moment I'm treating the wrench as a one-handed bludgeoning weapon (damage=club) and the screwdriver as a light piercing weapon (damage/cost=dagger 1 size category smaller than a dagger of an equal size (med dagger deals 1d4 damage, med screwdriver deals damage = small dagger) that can be thrown like a dagger. Do these sound okay to you? Give me your thoughts, opinions, etc.
HailSpork 04-28-05, 10:56 AM	Have you ever thrown a screwdriver? It's not very effective. A dagger is balanced for being used as a weapon (and throws well), a screwdriver is very unbalanced. In fact, the primary concern of the screwdriver is to maximize torque. Should be fine for stabbing though. Aside from that, it looks fine. If a character were just picking up a tool, I'd assign a -4 non-proficiency penalty, but if that's the point of the character, it's fine to forego it.
DarQuing 04-29-05, 05:48 AM	Have you ever thrown a screwdriver? It's not very effective. A dagger is balanced for being used as a weapon (and throws well), a screwdriver is very unbalanced. In fact, the primary concern of the screwdriver is to maximize torque. Should be fine for stabbing though. Aside from that, it looks fine. If a character were just picking up a tool, I'd assign a -4 non-proficiency penalty, but if that's the point of the character, it's fine to forego it. nods I have actually and I agree, normally its not designed to be thrown. However, since that's the point of his character, it probably wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume that he somehow managed to adjust it to be thrown.
Yak of Darkness 04-30-05, 09:58 PM	Sounds fine, although you may want to take slashing damage away from the screwdriver!dagger, keeping it at just piercing. Otherwise, it's always nice to see DMs willing to set a few rules aside to let a player try something new and fun. ^_^
DarQuing 04-30-05, 10:49 PM	Sounds fine, although you may want to take slashing damage away from the screwdriver!dagger, keeping it at just piercing. nods That's what I was going to do (semi-great minds think alike sometimes ;)). Otherwise, it's always nice to see DMs willing to set a few rules aside to let a player try something new and fun. ^_^ Thank you! This player tends to come up with interesting ideas and the concept sounds rather interesting. On a semi-related note: the racial substitution for warforged fighters has a d12. Would that be for the entire class or just for the substitution levels?