UA Defense Bonus Stack with armor? [Archive] - Wizards Community

UA Defense Bonus Stack with armor? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Sundragon
08-08-05, 03:15 AM I am thinking of using the level based defense adjustment presented in the UA for my game. I like the idea of someone not having to be a walking tank to defend themselves.

However, should someone need armor does the defense bonus stack with the adjustment given to AC by armor? Maybe I can't find it because I am tired but I am drawing a blank here.

Chris
Ranger REG
08-08-05, 03:23 AM RAW, it does not. However, this being a variant rule, it's up to the DM. Many complained that the defense bonus is too high for some classes (overpowered) and too low for other classes (underpowered).

My recommendation? Use d20 Modern rules on Class Defense bonus (also found in the d20 Modern System Reference Document or MSRD). At least they stack by RAW.
Sundragon
08-08-05, 03:46 AM RAW, it does not. However, this being a variant rule, it's up to the DM. Many complained that the defense bonus is too high for some classes (overpowered) and too low for other classes (underpowered).

My recommendation? Use d20 Modern rules on Class Defense bonus (also found in the d20 Modern System Reference Document or MSRD). At least they stack by RAW.

According to the D20 modern SRD (tanslated to D&D):

10 + Dexterity modifier + class bonus + equipment bonus (any armor or shield worn)+ size modifier= AC

Does that sound right?

Chris
CaoSlayer
08-08-05, 07:32 AM also it is pretty balanced if you use the rule that makes the armors to grant damage reduction instead AC bonuses...

well, actually I cant think one of those rules without the other, this solves de dilema of the ogre and the bucklet:

imagine that you are a very weak wizard being attacked by a very very strong ogre, rolls and hit you just by one point dealing all the damage killing you...
now imagine the same, but you have a bucket, the bucket have just stopped all the damage from that strong creature without hurting you at all.

So, with the both systems, you can totally separate the dodging of the deflecting damage so the armor reduces the damage and your dex and fighting skill allows to advoid blows.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sundragon 08-08-05, 03:15 AM	I am thinking of using the level based defense adjustment presented in the UA for my game. I like the idea of someone not having to be a walking tank to defend themselves. However, should someone need armor does the defense bonus stack with the adjustment given to AC by armor? Maybe I can't find it because I am tired but I am drawing a blank here. Chris
Ranger REG 08-08-05, 03:23 AM	RAW, it does not. However, this being a variant rule, it's up to the DM. Many complained that the defense bonus is too high for some classes (overpowered) and too low for other classes (underpowered). My recommendation? Use d20 Modern rules on Class Defense bonus (also found in the d20 Modern System Reference Document or MSRD). At least they stack by RAW.
Sundragon 08-08-05, 03:46 AM	RAW, it does not. However, this being a variant rule, it's up to the DM. Many complained that the defense bonus is too high for some classes (overpowered) and too low for other classes (underpowered). My recommendation? Use d20 Modern rules on Class Defense bonus (also found in the d20 Modern System Reference Document or MSRD). At least they stack by RAW. According to the D20 modern SRD (tanslated to D&D): 10 + Dexterity modifier + class bonus + equipment bonus (any armor or shield worn)+ size modifier= AC Does that sound right? Chris
CaoSlayer 08-08-05, 07:32 AM	also it is pretty balanced if you use the rule that makes the armors to grant damage reduction instead AC bonuses... well, actually I cant think one of those rules without the other, this solves de dilema of the ogre and the bucklet: imagine that you are a very weak wizard being attacked by a very very strong ogre, rolls and hit you just by one point dealing all the damage killing you... now imagine the same, but you have a bucket, the bucket have just stopped all the damage from that strong creature without hurting you at all. So, with the both systems, you can totally separate the dodging of the deflecting damage so the armor reduces the damage and your dex and fighting skill allows to advoid blows.