Post/Author/DateTime	Post
hoMonkulus 10-12-04, 01:50 PM	... and other weapons with a high crit multiplier. I mean, anyone who wants a fighter to focus on a weapon with a x3 or x4 crit that threatens only on a 20 is now disadvantaged with the Vitality Points rule, as crit multipliers no longer matter with this rule. So has anyone done anything to address it? I looked at a couple options: 1. expand the threat range for anything based on its multiplier: a greataxe (with a x3) would threaten on a 19-20; a pick (with a x4 multiplier) would threaten on an 18-20. Anything with a x2 multiplier would retain its original threat range (so the longsword still remains one of the best choices). I think it preserves the flavor of the original rules but doesn't overly penalize axe-, pick-, and scythe-wielders. 2. OR, keep the threat range the same as basic rules for all weapons and give a "critical hit damage bonus" to weapons with highter multipliers: for crit hits from weapons with multipliers greater than x2, add +1 damage to critical hits per multiplier point over 2. So a greataxe would get +1 damage on a critical hit; a pick would get +2. What do y'all think?
Alextroy 10-12-04, 07:34 PM	Option 1 is what is written in the section in Unearthed Arcana. Alextroy
Ranger REG 10-12-04, 08:54 PM	I'd go with option #1, as stated in the Unearthed Arcana book (see VP/WP rules regarding weapon damage and critical). I'd also try to increase threat range so you will hurt your opponent. After all, if he take damage to Wound Point, he suffered a fatigued condition (see Condition Summary).
hoMonkulus 10-13-04, 12:18 PM	Thanks! I must have totally missed that part of the UA rules. I'll read the rules a little more carefully next time. :blush:
Tzepish 10-13-04, 07:17 PM	I keep the multipliers, but apply the extra damage to Vitality points. That is, a normal x2 weapon deals x1 damage to wounds, a x3 weapon, like an axe, deals x1 to wounds and x1 to vitality.
Thelon Fairblade 10-15-04, 02:25 PM	I'd do it like Tzepish says... The battle-axe crit isn't more likely to kill you outright, but it *will* inflict a more dangerous blow than the longsword. Picture this: the longsword crit slips cleanly through the ribs, puncturing a lung (WP only); the battleaxe crit also hit the lung (same WP damage), but crushed ribs and split tissue on the way in.
Krog_the_Destroyer 10-17-04, 08:04 AM	20*3=19-20*1.5 20*4=19-20*2 19-20*4=ban that retarded crap from ebberon
the Horc 10-17-04, 10:16 PM	19-20*4=ban that retarded crap from ebberon (English accent) Hello, what's this then?
Krog_the_Destroyer 10-18-04, 01:50 AM	The 1d10 19-20 *4 reach sythe from Ebberron, sorry, i had just finished a session were the party barbar stuck that thing in my animal companion, soory :weep:
danielinthewolvesden 10-19-04, 09:07 PM	VP/WP option :confused:
shoplifter 10-30-04, 02:04 AM	The 1d10 19-20 *4 reach sythe from Ebberron, sorry, i had just finished a session were the party barbar stuck that thing in my animal companion, soory :weep: That's been errataed to 19-20/x2.
Degobah 11-01-04, 11:59 PM	Or you could leave the damage and crit threshold the same and add a bonus to the confirmation roll- say a x3 weapon might have a +3 bonus on the hit roll to check for criticals, and a x4 weapon might have +6 (just pulling numbers out of the air here..).
Finarin Panjoro 11-02-04, 10:38 AM	I'd go with Thelon and Tzepish's method. That makes a x3 crit a serious problem and preserves the differences between weapons.