We're Actually PLaying Gestalt [Archive] - Wizards Community

We're Actually PLaying Gestalt [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Zardnaar
10-15-06, 05:24 AM At one point my party was reduced to 3 PCs (I'm the DM) and we're playing the Age of Worms Adventure path in dungeon Magazine. I decided to give the Gestalt rules a go and my PCs ended up with.

Paladin/Favoured Soul
Fighter/Cleric
Wizard/Rogue

Eventually a new player joined and she took a Fighter/Scout archer type. We seem to be having fun and its reasonably high powered and very 2nd ed in feel. Howver the Dm gets to gestalt as well and its interesting seeing you can reduce CR by 1. A Grimlock Barbarian 1 for example is CR 1 which allows you to have a big horde of heavy hitters (equipped with bulls strength potions).

Fun fun fun
Voldar_Mecorthio
10-16-06, 08:40 PM If you fight non-gestault enemies, 1 level in gestault roughly equals 1.5 normal levels, so a CR 12 enemy would be an appropriate chalange for a level 8 gestault party.
scienceman47
10-17-06, 12:40 AM Ummm, I believe your calculation is off voldar, considering the gestalt rarely gets additional burst.

Consider just extending the amount of danger without rest. Hordes of monsters, hallways of deadly traps, and fatal environments, thats what a gestalt adventure is about. IMO
TheDarkLord
10-17-06, 02:20 AM I prefer gestalt myself when I can. Having experience in such watch out for the Wizard Rogue, With those amount of skill points and a High intelligence, coupled with Hide and Move silently he could be a party disaster waiting to happen, don't **** him off.
Voldar_Mecorthio
10-18-06, 01:57 PM I LOATH gestalt myself, it's just very very hard to handle CRs, prestige classes, and other mechanics.
Cifer
10-18-06, 03:12 PM 1.5 seems to much to me too, for it would mean that the magical 5-level-barrier is broken as soon as the PCs are 10th level. Hello, blasphemy!
Bard-of-all-trades
10-20-06, 01:40 AM Wow! 1.5 times for the CR. That is ginormous! I've played a few games and found if you look at what you throw at a party of gestalts, you can generally get away with the average party level +1 or +2 for the CR. And funny enough that is what it suggests in the book to do. Another thing you have to keep in mind with this option is numbers. You should be using the gestalt option when you only have a few players (4 at the most is my personal top end) and you can offset their "power" by simply out-numbering them. When every member of the party is flanked and getting hit twice a round, which can turn the tide without cranking up the CR for the encounter. After all, gestalt characters can still only do one thing a round on their turn, generally speaking, just like standard characters.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Zardnaar 10-15-06, 05:24 AM	At one point my party was reduced to 3 PCs (I'm the DM) and we're playing the Age of Worms Adventure path in dungeon Magazine. I decided to give the Gestalt rules a go and my PCs ended up with. Paladin/Favoured Soul Fighter/Cleric Wizard/Rogue Eventually a new player joined and she took a Fighter/Scout archer type. We seem to be having fun and its reasonably high powered and very 2nd ed in feel. Howver the Dm gets to gestalt as well and its interesting seeing you can reduce CR by 1. A Grimlock Barbarian 1 for example is CR 1 which allows you to have a big horde of heavy hitters (equipped with bulls strength potions). Fun fun fun
Voldar_Mecorthio 10-16-06, 08:40 PM	If you fight non-gestault enemies, 1 level in gestault roughly equals 1.5 normal levels, so a CR 12 enemy would be an appropriate chalange for a level 8 gestault party.
scienceman47 10-17-06, 12:40 AM	Ummm, I believe your calculation is off voldar, considering the gestalt rarely gets additional burst. Consider just extending the amount of danger without rest. Hordes of monsters, hallways of deadly traps, and fatal environments, thats what a gestalt adventure is about. IMO
TheDarkLord 10-17-06, 02:20 AM	I prefer gestalt myself when I can. Having experience in such watch out for the Wizard Rogue, With those amount of skill points and a High intelligence, coupled with Hide and Move silently he could be a party disaster waiting to happen, don't **** him off.
Voldar_Mecorthio 10-18-06, 01:57 PM	I LOATH gestalt myself, it's just very very hard to handle CRs, prestige classes, and other mechanics.
Cifer 10-18-06, 03:12 PM	1.5 seems to much to me too, for it would mean that the magical 5-level-barrier is broken as soon as the PCs are 10th level. Hello, blasphemy!
Bard-of-all-trades 10-20-06, 01:40 AM	Wow! 1.5 times for the CR. That is ginormous! I've played a few games and found if you look at what you throw at a party of gestalts, you can generally get away with the average party level +1 or +2 for the CR. And funny enough that is what it suggests in the book to do. Another thing you have to keep in mind with this option is numbers. You should be using the gestalt option when you only have a few players (4 at the most is my personal top end) and you can offset their "power" by simply out-numbering them. When every member of the party is flanked and getting hit twice a round, which can turn the tide without cranking up the CR for the encounter. After all, gestalt characters can still only do one thing a round on their turn, generally speaking, just like standard characters.