5ft movement and full attack? [Archive] - Wizards Community

5ft movement and full attack? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
randy98ss
02-28-05, 10:25 AM My players think if an opponent is within 10ft they can move 5ft and take a full attack (2 attacks), and still hit, because of the 5ft reach. Also, if there movement is a 30, and the opponent is 35 ft away that can still attack and hit. Is this the case?
quaiven
02-28-05, 10:31 AM yes
randy98ss
02-28-05, 10:35 AM Thank you! I like the short but sweet answers!
Lord Ian Stark
02-28-05, 10:40 AM Yeah cause if you didn't allow it that would mean the character would have to actually share the same square as the enemy just to attack him. :)
anders
02-28-05, 10:45 AM No
If he is 10 feet away and you move 5' towards, you will still be 5' short.

Y = you
E = enemy
0 = 1 square

10 feet away:

00000
0Y00E
00000

Taking 5' step

00000
00Y0E
00000

To hit you will need a reach weapon.

The same goes for the last example.

A 5' reach means you can only hit squares next to your own square.
Lavis Knight
02-28-05, 10:53 AM No
If he is 10 feet away and you move 5' towards, you will still be 5' short.

Y = you
E = enemy
0 = 1 square

10 feet away:

00000
0Y00E
00000

Taking 5' step

00000
00Y0E
00000

To hit you will need a reach weapon.

The same goes for the last example.

A 5' reach means you can only hit squares next to your own square.

Your Diagram has him 15 feet away, if you have one square inbetween yourself and the enemy it is considered to be 10 feet seperating you.
randy98ss
02-28-05, 10:55 AM If he was 11ft away I would agree, he cannot hit, but what if he was 9 ft or even exactly 10ft away, can he still hit? He uses a Dwarven waraxe. Does that have a reach of 5 ft?
quaiven
02-28-05, 10:55 AM no that is 15'

Player 1 = Y
Enemy = Z
Space = X

YXXZ = 15'
YXZ = 10'
YZ = 5'
Lord Ian Stark
02-28-05, 11:00 AM If he was 11ft away I would agree, he cannot hit, but what if he was 9 ft or even exactly 10ft away, can he still hit? He uses a Dwarven waraxe. Does that have a reach of 5 ft?

Yes it does.

My question is do you use a ruler or simply the squares on a board to move your guys. Because the wierd numbers like 9 feet or 12 feet don't really matter if you use the square diagram and just put everyone in a square. Can they actually be between 2 squares? Yes but why would you put extra BS into a system with enough calculations already. ;)
Nom
02-28-05, 08:37 PM A "5 ft. step" is a free action, so you can take a 5 ft. step and still make a full attack action. It's even specifically legal to take a single 5 ft. step between attacks during a full attack (see full attack rules, PH chapter 8).

A "5 ft. move" is a move action. It is important to understand the difference between the special 5 ft. step free action and a regular move move action. You can't do both in the same round.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
randy98ss 02-28-05, 10:25 AM	My players think if an opponent is within 10ft they can move 5ft and take a full attack (2 attacks), and still hit, because of the 5ft reach. Also, if there movement is a 30, and the opponent is 35 ft away that can still attack and hit. Is this the case?
quaiven 02-28-05, 10:31 AM	yes
randy98ss 02-28-05, 10:35 AM	Thank you! I like the short but sweet answers!
Lord Ian Stark 02-28-05, 10:40 AM	Yeah cause if you didn't allow it that would mean the character would have to actually share the same square as the enemy just to attack him. :)
anders 02-28-05, 10:45 AM	No If he is 10 feet away and you move 5' towards, you will still be 5' short. Y = you E = enemy 0 = 1 square 10 feet away: 00000 0Y00E 00000 Taking 5' step 00000 00Y0E 00000 To hit you will need a reach weapon. The same goes for the last example. A 5' reach means you can only hit squares next to your own square.
Lavis Knight 02-28-05, 10:53 AM	No If he is 10 feet away and you move 5' towards, you will still be 5' short. Y = you E = enemy 0 = 1 square 10 feet away: 00000 0Y00E 00000 Taking 5' step 00000 00Y0E 00000 To hit you will need a reach weapon. The same goes for the last example. A 5' reach means you can only hit squares next to your own square. Your Diagram has him 15 feet away, if you have one square inbetween yourself and the enemy it is considered to be 10 feet seperating you.
randy98ss 02-28-05, 10:55 AM	If he was 11ft away I would agree, he cannot hit, but what if he was 9 ft or even exactly 10ft away, can he still hit? He uses a Dwarven waraxe. Does that have a reach of 5 ft?
quaiven 02-28-05, 10:55 AM	no that is 15' Player 1 = Y Enemy = Z Space = X YXXZ = 15' YXZ = 10' YZ = 5'
Lord Ian Stark 02-28-05, 11:00 AM	If he was 11ft away I would agree, he cannot hit, but what if he was 9 ft or even exactly 10ft away, can he still hit? He uses a Dwarven waraxe. Does that have a reach of 5 ft? Yes it does. My question is do you use a ruler or simply the squares on a board to move your guys. Because the wierd numbers like 9 feet or 12 feet don't really matter if you use the square diagram and just put everyone in a square. Can they actually be between 2 squares? Yes but why would you put extra BS into a system with enough calculations already. ;)
Nom 02-28-05, 08:37 PM	A "5 ft. step" is a free action, so you can take a 5 ft. step and still make a full attack action. It's even specifically legal to take a single 5 ft. step between attacks during a full attack (see full attack rules, PH chapter 8). A "5 ft. move" is a move action. It is important to understand the difference between the special 5 ft. step free action and a regular move move action. You can't do both in the same round.