? on size and damage. [Archive] - Wizards Community

? on size and damage. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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sargent30
03-27-06, 10:54 PM ok i have a player playing a dragonkin. and has a fullblade. but he first took exotic weapon-fullblade so he can have a fullblades sized for a large being. then he took the feat Gigantic weapon, that lets you use a weapon two sizes larger then you can. ok i have two ?'s now you have the info. 1) what would the damge be know. 2) if he has a reach of 15' because of being large and a feat. what would his reach be with the fullblade in hand. i was thinking of 25' .
WCH
03-27-06, 11:01 PM What's Gigantic Weapon from? If I remember correctly, using oversized weapons does not extend your reach, but I could be wrong on that.

Wielding two gigantic fullblades just doesn't sound right to me. Reread the rules in question again, I highly doubt what's happening is legal.
sargent30
03-28-06, 01:04 AM What's Gigantic Weapon from? If I remember correctly, using oversized weapons does not extend your reach, but I could be wrong on that.

Wielding two gigantic fullblades just doesn't sound right to me. Reread the rules in question again, I highly doubt what's happening is legal.
not use two. gigantic weapon rease the size of the weapont by two sizes. and he took exodic so the fullblade would start at the size for a large not a med being.
strumbleduck
03-28-06, 02:05 AM Fullblades are a 3.0 weapon, and they're not really compatible with the 3.5 version of the rules. The 3.5 version of the fullblade is the large bastard sword.
sargent30
03-28-06, 07:51 AM Fullblades are a 3.0 weapon, and they're not really compatible with the 3.5 version of the rules. The 3.5 version of the fullblade is the large bastard sword.
ok were is the info of the large bastard sword. and i did now that. i thought most thing in 3.o went over to 3.5. just some things had a small change. ok would someone having a large two handed sword like a claymore be given more reach in the game.
orionm42
03-28-06, 09:22 AM This is from the Version 3.5 FAQ dated 2/22/06:

My stonechild (from Races of Stone) fighter wields a
fullblade (from Arms and Equipment Guide). If he increases
the weapon’s size by one category, can he still wield it, and
would it give him reach?

First of all, your stonechild couldn’t wield such a weapon.
While a stonechild (as a Medium creature) can wield a normal
fullblade as a two-handed weapon thanks to the Exotic Weapon
Proficiency (fullblade) feat, he couldn’t wield a fullblade of a
larger size category at all, even with the feat.

(Although the fullblade is described in Arms and
Equipment Guide as a “Huge” weapon, this is a reference to the
3.0 rules for weapon size. Using the 3.5 rules for weapon sizes,
the fullblade used by Medium creatures is actually a Large twohanded
weapon with a special rule that allows a Medium
creature to wield it with two hands.)

Normally, the smallest creature that could wield a Huge
fullblade (that is, a fullblade sized for two-handed use by a
Huge creature) would be a Large creature. A Medium creature
with the powerful build racial trait, such as a goliath or halfgiant,
with the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (fullblade) feat
could also wield a Huge fullblade.

As to the second issue, regardless of the wielder’s or the
weapon’s size, a fullblade is not a reach weapon. Even a
Medium creature with powerful build who wields a Huge
fullblade can use it only against creatures at a distance of his
natural reach (typically 5 feet), but no more than that.

Hope it helps. :)

Edit: What is the damage for a normal fullblade? I don't have the Arms and Equipment guide. If you post the normal damage, we can give you the damage for a larger fullblade.
sargent30
03-28-06, 01:53 PM thanks even those i thing that the reach part is stuped. look how must longer a two handed weapon is to a one handed one. a claymore is a lot longer then a long sword, so you should reach a little farther.
olshanski_home
03-28-06, 02:01 PM ok would someone having a large two handed sword like a claymore be given more reach in the game.Reach is based on creature size, and whether a weapon is a reach weapon or not.

A large ogre using a medium size longspear has the same reach as if he used a large longspear or a huge longspear.

A large ogre using a medium warhammer has the same reach as if he used a large warhammer or a huge warhammer.

*Using the core rules, a large creature could not use a huge longspear or a huge warhammer, I am just using these as examples... if you presume some non-core feats like monkey-grip, then this does become possible, but again does not change "reach".
orionm42
03-28-06, 02:06 PM thanks even those i thing that the reach part is stuped. look how must longer a two handed weapon is to a one handed one. a claymore is a lot longer then a long sword, so you should reach a little farther.

Also remember that, for most reach weapons, you cannot attack adjacent foes. If you are thinking of house ruling against this to allow the character to use the weapon against all foes within reach, you may be asking for trouble.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sargent30 03-27-06, 10:54 PM	ok i have a player playing a dragonkin. and has a fullblade. but he first took exotic weapon-fullblade so he can have a fullblades sized for a large being. then he took the feat Gigantic weapon, that lets you use a weapon two sizes larger then you can. ok i have two ?'s now you have the info. 1) what would the damge be know. 2) if he has a reach of 15' because of being large and a feat. what would his reach be with the fullblade in hand. i was thinking of 25' .
WCH 03-27-06, 11:01 PM	What's Gigantic Weapon from? If I remember correctly, using oversized weapons does not extend your reach, but I could be wrong on that. Wielding two gigantic fullblades just doesn't sound right to me. Reread the rules in question again, I highly doubt what's happening is legal.
sargent30 03-28-06, 01:04 AM	What's Gigantic Weapon from? If I remember correctly, using oversized weapons does not extend your reach, but I could be wrong on that. Wielding two gigantic fullblades just doesn't sound right to me. Reread the rules in question again, I highly doubt what's happening is legal. not use two. gigantic weapon rease the size of the weapont by two sizes. and he took exodic so the fullblade would start at the size for a large not a med being.
strumbleduck 03-28-06, 02:05 AM	Fullblades are a 3.0 weapon, and they're not really compatible with the 3.5 version of the rules. The 3.5 version of the fullblade is the large bastard sword.
sargent30 03-28-06, 07:51 AM	Fullblades are a 3.0 weapon, and they're not really compatible with the 3.5 version of the rules. The 3.5 version of the fullblade is the large bastard sword. ok were is the info of the large bastard sword. and i did now that. i thought most thing in 3.o went over to 3.5. just some things had a small change. ok would someone having a large two handed sword like a claymore be given more reach in the game.
orionm42 03-28-06, 09:22 AM	This is from the Version 3.5 FAQ dated 2/22/06: My stonechild (from Races of Stone) fighter wields a fullblade (from Arms and Equipment Guide). If he increases the weapon’s size by one category, can he still wield it, and would it give him reach? First of all, your stonechild couldn’t wield such a weapon. While a stonechild (as a Medium creature) can wield a normal fullblade as a two-handed weapon thanks to the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (fullblade) feat, he couldn’t wield a fullblade of a larger size category at all, even with the feat. (Although the fullblade is described in Arms and Equipment Guide as a “Huge” weapon, this is a reference to the 3.0 rules for weapon size. Using the 3.5 rules for weapon sizes, the fullblade used by Medium creatures is actually a Large twohanded weapon with a special rule that allows a Medium creature to wield it with two hands.) Normally, the smallest creature that could wield a Huge fullblade (that is, a fullblade sized for two-handed use by a Huge creature) would be a Large creature. A Medium creature with the powerful build racial trait, such as a goliath or halfgiant, with the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (fullblade) feat could also wield a Huge fullblade. As to the second issue, regardless of the wielder’s or the weapon’s size, a fullblade is not a reach weapon. Even a Medium creature with powerful build who wields a Huge fullblade can use it only against creatures at a distance of his natural reach (typically 5 feet), but no more than that. Hope it helps. :) Edit: What is the damage for a normal fullblade? I don't have the Arms and Equipment guide. If you post the normal damage, we can give you the damage for a larger fullblade.
sargent30 03-28-06, 01:53 PM	thanks even those i thing that the reach part is stuped. look how must longer a two handed weapon is to a one handed one. a claymore is a lot longer then a long sword, so you should reach a little farther.
olshanski_home 03-28-06, 02:01 PM	ok would someone having a large two handed sword like a claymore be given more reach in the game.Reach is based on creature size, and whether a weapon is a reach weapon or not. A large ogre using a medium size longspear has the same reach as if he used a large longspear or a huge longspear. A large ogre using a medium warhammer has the same reach as if he used a large warhammer or a huge warhammer. *Using the core rules, a large creature could not use a huge longspear or a huge warhammer, I am just using these as examples... if you presume some non-core feats like monkey-grip, then this does become possible, but again does not change "reach".
orionm42 03-28-06, 02:06 PM	thanks even those i thing that the reach part is stuped. look how must longer a two handed weapon is to a one handed one. a claymore is a lot longer then a long sword, so you should reach a little farther. Also remember that, for most reach weapons, you cannot attack adjacent foes. If you are thinking of house ruling against this to allow the character to use the weapon against all foes within reach, you may be asking for trouble.