a dragon that breaths black fire [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Othello_Thorngage

12-07-07, 09:03 PM
hey everyone, im a dm and im starting a new campaign soon and one of my players (who is also my best friend) wants to be a dragon shaman, im ok with that. he said he wants to be the son of the chief of his tribe, he also said that his tribe "worships" a dragon that lives in nearby mountains, his totem dragon is red so its obviously a red dragon, im ok with that to. but heres the catch, he wants the dragon to breath black fire instead of normal flames. wich i by the way think is a cool idea. so i wanted to know if i should alter this dragon (or its breath weapon) in any way. i dont want it to be a normal dragon. i want there to be sumthing special about it, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


yours truly~chris :pint:
Salla

12-07-07, 09:10 PM
Unless these black flames operate differently from standard red dragon breath (fire damage, etc), there's no reason you can't just say, "Okay, this guy breathes black fire," and come up with a reason in his background. Maybe he magicked his internal flamethrower to spit black flames because he though it looked cool ... or maybe he has a fiendish template. ;)
Othello_Thorngage

12-07-07, 09:12 PM
yea i was thinkin about a fiendish template, and yea i guess a big evil dragon probly would think it looked cool.:D

thank you
Rood_Inverse

12-07-07, 09:12 PM
As a DM, and a player, I've always subscribed to the idea that if the mechanics don't change, there's no need to worry.

He breathes black fire? Cool. Let him. So it glows black and provides a navy blue illumination, instead of yellow-spectrum light. A light sourse is a light source, and black fire burns like orange fire.

Maybe there's something wrong with the dragon. The coal he chews to produce his fire with (in this example, hypothetical biology) is tar-heavy, producing black, napalm-textured flame instead of the blast-furnace orange flamethrower that you normally expect.

Flavor, as long as it doesn't meddle with the mechanics, should be embraced and not feared.
Othello_Thorngage

12-07-07, 09:14 PM
thank you.



p.s. i like your mentallity behind it all
Salla

12-07-07, 09:15 PM
Flavor, as long as it doesn't meddle with the mechanics, should be embraced and not feared.

Sigged.
Othello_Thorngage

12-07-07, 09:16 PM
IMA SIG IT TOO!!!
Sinfire Titan

12-07-07, 09:48 PM
hey everyone, im a dm and im starting a new campaign soon and one of my players (who is also my best friend) wants to be a dragon shaman, im ok with that. he said he wants to be the son of the chief of his tribe, he also said that his tribe "worships" a dragon that lives in nearby mountains, his totem dragon is red so its obviously a red dragon, im ok with that to. but heres the catch, he wants the dragon to breath black fire instead of normal flames. wich i by the way think is a cool idea. so i wanted to know if i should alter this dragon (or its breath weapon) in any way. i dont want it to be a normal dragon. i want there to be sumthing special about it, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


yours truly~chris :pint:

Visually? Not a problem. Mechanically, not a problem. If you want, you can DM Edit the DS totem to be a Hellfire Wyrm, from the MM2. Their breath weapon suits this just fine, and it sounds much more impressive to be the shaman of a beast called a "Hellfire Wyrm" than some measly Red Dragon.
Grod_The_Giant

12-07-07, 10:39 PM
My policy is "if it doesn't effect the rules or conflict with the setting...do whatever the **** you want with the flavor."
Space_Dragon

12-07-07, 10:42 PM
Maybe all dragons have unique-looking breath weapons in your world. The flavor could be really nice; imagine the PC's fighting a nest of blue wyrmlings, each of which shoots a different flavor of (mechanically homogenous) lightning.
Napoleon_the_Clown

12-08-07, 12:01 AM
Maybe all dragons have unique-looking breath weapons in your world. The flavor could be really nice; imagine the PC's fighting a nest of blue wyrmlings, each of which shoots a different flavor of (mechanically homogenous) lightning.
Just hope that they don't coordinate their attacks so that you get a spray of red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet at once.
person132

12-08-07, 12:16 AM
In that case, they might end up summoning Captain Planet. :D
Sinfire Titan

12-08-07, 12:33 AM
In that case, they might end up summoning Captain Planet. :D

Or a Prismatic Sphere of Annihilation*.


*A fruity, black ball of death, slowly making it's way to the PCs...