A Galley Can carry 150 tons, whats a Wagon Carry? [Archive] - Wizards Community

A Galley Can carry 150 tons, whats a Wagon Carry? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Messer
08-25-05, 10:59 AM I been looking through the players book, the DM's guide, and a lot of stuff, but, I can't find anything about a wagon, a cart, or a carrage, other than their prices, weights and descritpion. I mean, there must be a maximum weight that these contracptions can move, what would it be?

am I just confuesd, blind, or are there no stats here?

I'm not proud, and I will admit, that I a at a loss for this... after 40 mins of looking, I found that A Wagon is drawn by a horse, or another beast of burden. I am quite confused.

Can anyone give me a hand?
FriendoftheDork
08-25-05, 11:17 AM I'd see what the beasts of burden can drag, then assume the wagon can hold it. What matter is the storage space in cubic feet. You can probably fill a wagon with gold bars, but the horses might not be able to drag it.

"An average caravan consisted of 26 wagons, each drawn by 5 yoke of oxen or 5 spans of mules. A wagon load was five to seven thousand pounds, and an average day's journey 17 miles"

scource: http://www.titchenal.com/atsf/ayw1946/paths.html

I can't verify it but it seems ok. 19th century american wagons.

5k pounds, that's about 2.5 metric tons isn't it? Which figures why naval trade was so much more profitable...
Messer
08-25-05, 11:20 AM Sweet man! you got that all put togeather just great! thats wonderful, thanks for the tip... I'll let my players know!

hahaha, so cool!

(shucks, now they can move all that treasure)
Illion the Red
08-25-05, 11:23 AM (shucks, now they can move all that treasure)

Until a wagonwheel breaks...
FriendoftheDork
08-25-05, 12:00 PM Sweet man! you got that all put togeather just great! thats wonderful, thanks for the tip... I'll let my players know!

hahaha, so cool!

(shucks, now they can move all that treasure)

np.
You could have searched the internet yourself though ;) Although finding the correct line was hard... alot of Wagon companies popped up :confused:

I'm a bit suprised that 5 mules or oxen were used though, I never though they'd use more than 4 at most... I mean 5 wheel on the wagon right?
edwardsobel
08-25-05, 12:03 PM The Arms and equipment guide gives a 2 horse wagon a capacity of 2000 lbs.
tarkin
08-25-05, 12:19 PM That seems reasonable to me. The real life value was for 19th century wagons, and I can easily see a medival era wagon having a carrying capacity 1/2 that.

Poor quality wood, metalwork, wheels, and engineering.
FriendoftheDork
08-25-05, 12:40 PM well yeah but 5 oxen can also drag alot more than 2 horses... but yeah the 19th century wagon could be more sturdy.
StormCrow42
08-25-05, 01:21 PM All sorts of useful carrying capacities (backpacks, chests, saddlebags, carts, wagons, etc) can be found in the Going Metric, Part 4 (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040406a) article on the Wizards site. It has both standard and metric capacities for a large number of objects.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Messer 08-25-05, 10:59 AM	I been looking through the players book, the DM's guide, and a lot of stuff, but, I can't find anything about a wagon, a cart, or a carrage, other than their prices, weights and descritpion. I mean, there must be a maximum weight that these contracptions can move, what would it be? am I just confuesd, blind, or are there no stats here? I'm not proud, and I will admit, that I a at a loss for this... after 40 mins of looking, I found that A Wagon is drawn by a horse, or another beast of burden. I am quite confused. Can anyone give me a hand?
FriendoftheDork 08-25-05, 11:17 AM	I'd see what the beasts of burden can drag, then assume the wagon can hold it. What matter is the storage space in cubic feet. You can probably fill a wagon with gold bars, but the horses might not be able to drag it. "An average caravan consisted of 26 wagons, each drawn by 5 yoke of oxen or 5 spans of mules. A wagon load was five to seven thousand pounds, and an average day's journey 17 miles" scource: http://www.titchenal.com/atsf/ayw1946/paths.html I can't verify it but it seems ok. 19th century american wagons. 5k pounds, that's about 2.5 metric tons isn't it? Which figures why naval trade was so much more profitable...
Messer 08-25-05, 11:20 AM	Sweet man! you got that all put togeather just great! thats wonderful, thanks for the tip... I'll let my players know! hahaha, so cool! (shucks, now they can move all that treasure)
Illion the Red 08-25-05, 11:23 AM	(shucks, now they can move all that treasure) Until a wagonwheel breaks...
FriendoftheDork 08-25-05, 12:00 PM	Sweet man! you got that all put togeather just great! thats wonderful, thanks for the tip... I'll let my players know! hahaha, so cool! (shucks, now they can move all that treasure) np. You could have searched the internet yourself though ;) Although finding the correct line was hard... alot of Wagon companies popped up :confused: I'm a bit suprised that 5 mules or oxen were used though, I never though they'd use more than 4 at most... I mean 5 wheel on the wagon right?
edwardsobel 08-25-05, 12:03 PM	The Arms and equipment guide gives a 2 horse wagon a capacity of 2000 lbs.
tarkin 08-25-05, 12:19 PM	That seems reasonable to me. The real life value was for 19th century wagons, and I can easily see a medival era wagon having a carrying capacity 1/2 that. Poor quality wood, metalwork, wheels, and engineering.
FriendoftheDork 08-25-05, 12:40 PM	well yeah but 5 oxen can also drag alot more than 2 horses... but yeah the 19th century wagon could be more sturdy.
StormCrow42 08-25-05, 01:21 PM	All sorts of useful carrying capacities (backpacks, chests, saddlebags, carts, wagons, etc) can be found in the Going Metric, Part 4 (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040406a) article on the Wizards site. It has both standard and metric capacities for a large number of objects.