A Little Help With Multiclass Rules, Please? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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harmonic

01-02-05, 01:14 AM
Hello, :)

I have not had the three core books (v3.5) very long; not that famillier with them yet... I guess I could be overlooking it, but wanted to go ahead and post on it: What (or where) are the rules regarding multiclassing, specifically, how many classes can a character have? Is there a limit on how many times a character can switch back and forth between two or more classes?

Thanks!
fireangel37

01-02-05, 01:37 AM
Aside from the rules in place for specific classes (monks and paladins), you're pretty free to switch back and forth between classes as you want. However, take a look at the information on favored classes and uneven advancement (PHB p 60). If you have many classes, they have to be within a level of each other or you take a penalty to experience.

Thus, you could be a fighter 1/rogue 1/cleric 1/bard 1/wizard 1/sorcerer 1 with no problem (you'd be a horrible fighter if you did, though). A fighter 1/rogue 3/cleric 3/bard 1 would be have some experience penalties coming his way though.
Dash Branaghan

01-02-05, 07:33 AM
What (or where) are the rules regarding multiclassing, specifically, how many classes can a character have?

As fireangel pointed out, the rules for multiclassing are page 58-60 in the PHB. You can have as many classes as you want, and each race has a favored class (humans can pick whichever class they want as their favored class upon creation). There are penalties to XP for two or more classes beyond a favored class, but only if the classes get too far apart in levels.

Is there a limit on how many times a character can switch back and forth between two or more classes?

Only the XP penalties in play if the classes are non-favored and exceed a level difference of two or more IIRC.

The one exception to this is the PrC or Prestige Class. Located in the DMG, these would be the equivalent of exceptional classes and have pre-requisites before one can take them (and sometimes these pre-requisites are reached faster if you multiclass). However, there are no limits (beyond you the DM) as to how many PrCs a player can take, and there are no penalties to it either IIRC.

Dash
Santrilla

01-02-05, 07:40 AM
I thought you could only have a maximum of 3 seperate classes? I'm sure I read that somewhere.
Escef

01-02-05, 08:03 AM
I thought you could only have a maximum of 3 seperate classes? I'm sure I read that somewhere.

Nope.

However, there is a practical maximum to the number of classes you can have and at what levels. If you have class levels of 1/3/5/7/9 and none of them are favored or prestige classes then you are taking a 100% XP penalty. You will never level again.
TheVeiledOne

01-02-05, 01:28 PM
I knew all that, but how do Prestige Classes work multiclassing? same as other classes?
Erix d'Pheer

01-02-05, 01:52 PM
Prestige classes work the same, except that PrC's do not count when determining whether you incur an XP penalty for multiclassing. There's something of a rumor floating around that you may only take one PrC, but this is not true.
ksbsnowowl

01-02-05, 02:24 PM
each race has a favored class (humans can pick whichever class they want as their favored class upon creation).
Qwibble: A human's (and Half-Elf's) favored class is the one they have the most levels in; they do not get to choose it as you are suggesting.

A human Fighter 4/Ranger 2/Rogue 1 would not have an XP penalty, but a Human Fighter 4/Ranger 3/Rogue 1 would have an XP penalty.
DrMorganes

01-03-05, 07:58 AM
Prestige classes work the same, except that PrC's do not count when determining whether you incur an XP penalty for multiclassing. There's something of a rumor floating around that you may only take one PrC, but this is not true.
True enough. However, ALL prestige classes are available ONLY at your DM's discretion. Many DMs - myself included - view prestige classes as an exclusive career path with in-game hooks and consequences. Some DMs disallow them entirely.

In one of my games, you cannot simply decide to take levels in a certain PrC. You need my permission to do so - and then the character must discover the existance of the group or secret society which teaches those skills and prove his worthiness to that group. Then and ONLY then will I allow a PC to take a level in a given PrC. Further advancement may require further story development, typically indicating that the character progresses up the ranks of the organization. Obviously, the sooner I know a player is interested in a prestige class the sooner I can begin working the specifics into the story line.

Given this level of commitment, taking a level in a second prestige class is frequently not feasable. In the event that I allow it, the player can expect his character to encounter problems stemming from his betrayal/abandonment of his fellows. Can get nasty, particularly for the more martial PrCs...
Dash Branaghan

01-03-05, 12:38 PM
Qwibble: A human's (and Half-Elf's) favored class is the one they have the most levels in; they do not get to choose it as you are suggesting.

Yeah, I see that now. I usually don't bother reading beyond the Any descriptor under Favored Class. I find that it defeats the purpose of declaring a favored class. :rolleyes:

You know, why did they put "any?" Why didn't they just take that magic word out and leave it at "Treat the highest level class as their favored class"?

Dash
ksbsnowowl

01-03-05, 05:23 PM
You know, why did they put "any?" Why didn't they just take that magic word out and leave it at "Treat the highest level class as their favored class"?Probably because all the other races' favored classes were also single words. (Fighter, Wizard, etc.)