A little help.. [Archive] - Wizards Community

A little help.. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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coldreboot
12-06-05, 10:08 AM Im at work at the moment and haven't got my books handy so:

Is there anything (a spell/monster) that can lift something very large and heavy, and would be conceivable to travel through tunnels into a sewer system, suitable for a 1st level adventure? It doesn't have to be sentient if a monster, as it may be under some kind of control. I was thinking Golem, maybe? But that might be too hard for 1st level players.

Any ideas?
Radijs
12-06-05, 10:24 AM There's Nodwick.

the first thing I thought of was some kind of undead.

How heavy should it lift things?
coldreboot
12-06-05, 10:32 AM I haven't worked out actual dimensions yet, but it's basically a glowing piece of white rock the shape of an egg, and is used like a beacon at the top of a large tower. So perhaps the same size as a lighthouse lamp, or a large bell in a bell-tower.
coldreboot
12-06-05, 10:59 AM Thinking about it...Could 4-5 1st level PCs take a Clay Golem do you think?
b5201
12-06-05, 11:09 AM Well for spells there is levitate but I don't know about limitations or level needed to cast it.
bartleby42
12-06-05, 11:23 AM Could 4-5 1st level PCs take a Clay Golem do you think?

If I recall correctly a clay Golem is about CR 5.
The PCs would be toast. At 1st lvl don't throw anything higher than CR 3 at them. It can only end poorly.
Some_call_me_Tim
12-06-05, 11:48 AM Im at work at the moment and haven't got my books handy so:

No books, but an Internet connection? See The Hypertext d20 SRD (http://www.d20srd.org).

Is there anything (a spell/monster) that can lift something very large and heavy, and would be conceivable to travel through tunnels into a sewer system, suitable for a 1st level adventure? It doesn't have to be sentient if a monster, as it may be under some kind of control. I was thinking Golem, maybe? But that might be too hard for 1st level players.
Ideas that come to my mind:
just make the thing itself an animated object
Small (or Medium) Earth Elemental if it is real heavy
Homonculus if it is relatively small <40 lb.
As mentioned already undead could work.
Spells:
Tenser's Floating Disk can lift 100 lb./CL (same as levitate)
Unseen Servent could drag 100 lb.
Shrink Item and then have something small carry it.
coldreboot
12-06-05, 11:51 AM small earth elemental sounds good. Maybe large one, but the player's don't have to fight it. Thanks for the ideas guys, the wheels are now turning :D
Some_call_me_Tim
12-06-05, 11:53 AM If I recall correctly a clay Golem is about CR 5.
The PCs would be toast. At 1st lvl don't throw anything higher than CR 3 at them. It can only end poorly.
Actually a clay Golem is CR 10. Pretty much assured a TPK for 1st level adventurers, with its Haste ability it could even catch the runners. Even a flesh golem is CR 7. True Golems are right out.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
coldreboot 12-06-05, 10:08 AM	Im at work at the moment and haven't got my books handy so: Is there anything (a spell/monster) that can lift something very large and heavy, and would be conceivable to travel through tunnels into a sewer system, suitable for a 1st level adventure? It doesn't have to be sentient if a monster, as it may be under some kind of control. I was thinking Golem, maybe? But that might be too hard for 1st level players. Any ideas?
Radijs 12-06-05, 10:24 AM	There's Nodwick. the first thing I thought of was some kind of undead. How heavy should it lift things?
coldreboot 12-06-05, 10:32 AM	I haven't worked out actual dimensions yet, but it's basically a glowing piece of white rock the shape of an egg, and is used like a beacon at the top of a large tower. So perhaps the same size as a lighthouse lamp, or a large bell in a bell-tower.
coldreboot 12-06-05, 10:59 AM	Thinking about it...Could 4-5 1st level PCs take a Clay Golem do you think?
b5201 12-06-05, 11:09 AM	Well for spells there is levitate but I don't know about limitations or level needed to cast it.
bartleby42 12-06-05, 11:23 AM	Could 4-5 1st level PCs take a Clay Golem do you think? If I recall correctly a clay Golem is about CR 5. The PCs would be toast. At 1st lvl don't throw anything higher than CR 3 at them. It can only end poorly.
Some_call_me_Tim 12-06-05, 11:48 AM	Im at work at the moment and haven't got my books handy so: No books, but an Internet connection? See The Hypertext d20 SRD (http://www.d20srd.org). Is there anything (a spell/monster) that can lift something very large and heavy, and would be conceivable to travel through tunnels into a sewer system, suitable for a 1st level adventure? It doesn't have to be sentient if a monster, as it may be under some kind of control. I was thinking Golem, maybe? But that might be too hard for 1st level players. Ideas that come to my mind: just make the thing itself an animated object Small (or Medium) Earth Elemental if it is real heavy Homonculus if it is relatively small <40 lb. As mentioned already undead could work. Spells: Tenser's Floating Disk can lift 100 lb./CL (same as levitate) Unseen Servent could drag 100 lb. Shrink Item and then have something small carry it.
coldreboot 12-06-05, 11:51 AM	small earth elemental sounds good. Maybe large one, but the player's don't have to fight it. Thanks for the ideas guys, the wheels are now turning :D
Some_call_me_Tim 12-06-05, 11:53 AM	If I recall correctly a clay Golem is about CR 5. The PCs would be toast. At 1st lvl don't throw anything higher than CR 3 at them. It can only end poorly. Actually a clay Golem is CR 10. Pretty much assured a TPK for 1st level adventurers, with its Haste ability it could even catch the runners. Even a flesh golem is CR 7. True Golems are right out.