About experience points [Archive] - Wizards Community

About experience points [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Holy Warrior
02-29-04, 06:47 AM Don't you think the experience points rewards listed in the DMG are a bit to high. I think they should be 1/2 from those listed. What d'you out there say?
Gingerbread Guy
02-29-04, 06:54 AM It really depends on what kind of game you're running. If you're running a hack-and-slash game with nearly endless combat, then yes, the PCs will advance pretty quickly, especially at early levels. However, if there's any roleplaying involved, I think the suggested totals are perfectly reasonable.

Don't forget, these totals are being divided among the entire group. A lot of notice DMs forget that.

~Ginger
Holy Warrior
02-29-04, 06:59 AM Thanks.
airhead
03-01-04, 09:17 AM Yes, don't forget to divide by 4 (or number in your party). The tables are set so that it takes about 12 to 15 encounters (of equal CR) to get to the next level.

This is radically different from 1e & 2e, they had logorithmic advancement tables (double for the next level - 2000, 4000, 8000, 16000, etc.) But the monsters XP value did not go up proportionately. It could take years of play to get beyond 10th level and each level would take nearly as long as all your previous time to advance:

1 week to 2nd level,
2 more weeks to 3rd,
another month to 4th,
2 more months to 5th (yea, 1 fireball or lightning bolt per day)
4 more months to 6th.
etc.

It wasn't quite that bad, because you could fight much larger monsters and much more of the smaller ones (no CR had been developed either). But a level advancement then was major celebration time.
Escef
03-01-04, 10:09 AM You could power-level in 1e and 2e easily enough. In some ways it was easier than in 3e, because the xp given wasn't on a sliding scale with your relative power. A monster worth 65 xp at 1st level is worth 65 xp at 20th level. So if your DM was generous (or whatever it is you want to call it) he could level you so fast it'd make your head spin. 3e did not invent Monty Haul power-gaming munchinkinism. It was around before, and is alive and well today.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Holy Warrior 02-29-04, 06:47 AM	Don't you think the experience points rewards listed in the DMG are a bit to high. I think they should be 1/2 from those listed. What d'you out there say?
Gingerbread Guy 02-29-04, 06:54 AM	It really depends on what kind of game you're running. If you're running a hack-and-slash game with nearly endless combat, then yes, the PCs will advance pretty quickly, especially at early levels. However, if there's any roleplaying involved, I think the suggested totals are perfectly reasonable. Don't forget, these totals are being divided among the entire group. A lot of notice DMs forget that. ~Ginger
Holy Warrior 02-29-04, 06:59 AM	Thanks.
airhead 03-01-04, 09:17 AM	Yes, don't forget to divide by 4 (or number in your party). The tables are set so that it takes about 12 to 15 encounters (of equal CR) to get to the next level. This is radically different from 1e & 2e, they had logorithmic advancement tables (double for the next level - 2000, 4000, 8000, 16000, etc.) But the monsters XP value did not go up proportionately. It could take years of play to get beyond 10th level and each level would take nearly as long as all your previous time to advance: 1 week to 2nd level, 2 more weeks to 3rd, another month to 4th, 2 more months to 5th (yea, 1 fireball or lightning bolt per day) 4 more months to 6th. etc. It wasn't quite that bad, because you could fight much larger monsters and much more of the smaller ones (no CR had been developed either). But a level advancement then was major celebration time.
Escef 03-01-04, 10:09 AM	You could power-level in 1e and 2e easily enough. In some ways it was easier than in 3e, because the xp given wasn't on a sliding scale with your relative power. A monster worth 65 xp at 1st level is worth 65 xp at 20th level. So if your DM was generous (or whatever it is you want to call it) he could level you so fast it'd make your head spin. 3e did not invent Monty Haul power-gaming munchinkinism. It was around before, and is alive and well today.