Post/Author/DateTime	Post
eudas 11-15-05, 04:15 PM	Please, for the love of God, quit it with the 101/1001 threads. I know you think they're funny. I know you think they're "just good fun". I know you think that you're just being light-hearted. You are, of course, WRONG, and they're just clogging up the boards. And they're stupid. Won't someone think about the children? Why do you hate America? Where's EatFlan when you need him? Signed, eudas
Chobemaster 11-15-05, 04:23 PM	they don't take up any more room than this post. And "room" on a electronic medium is a pretty nebulous concept.
WCH 11-15-05, 04:25 PM	They really don't clog up the boards that much. Certainly no more than the million posts per day by people asking questions we've dealt with a million times before, like the average of 10 people per week asking about called shots, or all the threads which come down solely to *****ing about a player who doesn't like/know/follow/respect the rules. Tis the nature of open forums -- at least the 1001 threads have some mild entertainment value to them, not just yet another person wanting to know whether you can target someone's head in 3.5.
loaba 11-15-05, 04:25 PM	Regardless, they're still pretty damned annoying. I agree with Eudas, for the love of all that's unholy, stop with the 1001 crap already.
Temrek 11-15-05, 04:33 PM	Just tell whoever is pointing a gun at your head and focing you to read them to stop it.
hammer_hand 11-15-05, 04:33 PM	What's wrong with 1001 threads? The comments at the end of Eudas post just spell out that he's one of those people who would rather hug a barbed devil than have a bit of fun with a goblin jester. If you're that against threads that waste peoples time then why for the love of all that the creator attempted to suppress did you start this little niggler!?!?!
DmMagnus 11-15-05, 04:40 PM	I don`t think the "1001 threads" take more space than all the post whining about the "1001 threads". If you don`t like em don`t read em.
loaba 11-15-05, 04:42 PM	Just tell whoever is pointing a gun at your head and focing you to read them to stop it. Personally, I don't even read 'em anymore - because they're all the same. However, I do feel like quite a few of the 1001 examples in this particular forum have no business actually being here at all. They aren't really dealing with DM issues so much as they're just mindless chit-chat crap.
Black Kitten 11-15-05, 04:46 PM	Please, for the love of God, quit it with the 101/1001 threads. I know you think they're funny. I know you think they're "just good fun". I know you think that you're just being light-hearted. You are, of course, WRONG, and they're just clogging up the boards. And they're stupid. Won't someone think about the children? Why do you hate America? Where's EatFlan when you need him? Signed, eudas Light the torches! GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS! We're going Trollhunting! Ahum... I like 1001's. If you don't, don't read them.
m33p0 11-15-05, 04:49 PM	wow this is kinda of like the "take god out of the pledge of alegiance" issue. well heres the simple answer to that. if you dont believe in god then dont say god. same goes for the "101/1001 threads". if you dont like them then (again stated for like the 4th time) dont read them. your crying about the "101/1001 threads" is taking up space just like those "101/1001 threads" that you dont like.
DmMagnus 11-15-05, 04:50 PM	Ofcorse, most of the threads has nothing to do with DMěng. People should put em in the general forum. Or Wizards can make an own 1001 forum. polls arn`t allowed in these boards right?
olshanski_home 11-15-05, 04:51 PM	I think the 1001 posts could be great, As they are currently implemented, they are crap. If only the original poster on each thread would maintain them, by editing the first post so that it included all of the submitted ideas in order. Some examples of this (excucuted correctly) are the stickied "Useful DM Links", "Guide to Master DM Competitions", and even the "1001 1001 links" below. The fact is, that the posters that create these threads make no effort to maintain them, and they become cluttered with crap and garbage. The few gems of ideas buried within are impossible to find. It is worse than wasted space, it is wasted space and the loss of a few very good ideas (since the good ideas cannot be found among all the crap). If you start a 1001 thread, do the decent thing and maintain it.
Jaxgaret 11-15-05, 04:55 PM	I think the 1001 posts could be great, As they are currently implemented, they are crap. If only the original poster on each thread would maintain them, by editing the first post so that it included all of the submitted ideas in order. Some examples of this (excucuted correctly) are the stickied "Useful DM Links", "Guide to Master DM Competitions", and even the "1001 1001 links" below. The fact is, that the posters that create these threads make no effort to maintain them, and they become cluttered with crap and garbage. The few gems of ideas buried within are impossible to find. It is worse than wasted space, it is wasted space and the loss of a few very good ideas (since the good ideas cannot be found among all the crap). If you start a 1001 thread, do the decent thing and maintain it. Hear hear.
loaba 11-15-05, 04:58 PM	If you start a 1001 thread, do the decent thing and maintain it. That would require effort. And really, do you need to list out 1001 ways to instigate a TPK? I mean, c'mon, that's just a stupid idea on any level. The OP of that thread simply thought it would be a cute response to this one. EDIT: is 1001 Famous Last Words really a DM issue? I rather think it is not...
Edymnion 11-15-05, 05:05 PM	Personally, I don't even read them anymore. They stopped being anything helpful years ago, and now they're just started by new posters that think that, somehow, they get "cooler" by having long threads, so they start up all these 1001 things trying to get that. They're essentially junk threads. But, as you've seen, if anybody has the guts to actually come out and SAY that, they get jumped on. Personally, if I had any say, I'd get rid of the stupid things. But, I can't, so I just ignore them. Trust me, if I had the option to put keywords in thread titles on my ignore list, so I would never again see any thread with the number "1001" in it, I would, in a heartbeat.
eudas 11-15-05, 05:15 PM	(snip) The comments at the end of Eudas post just spell out that he's one of those people who would rather hug a barbed devil ... (snip) Barbed Devils are just misunderstood, the poor things. eudas
Ivar the terrible 11-15-05, 05:16 PM	Won't someone think about the children? Why do you hate America? Where's EatFlan when you need him? What does any of this have to do with D&D?
allenchan 11-15-05, 05:18 PM	I smell a "1001 Open Letters to the Wizards.Com boards Community" thread soon. :cool: Yea, just joking. But seriously, I just pass over them without giving them a second look, myself.
loaba 11-15-05, 05:19 PM	That's exactly the man's point - the 1001 threads are typically junk threads that have squat to do with DM-issues.
Ivar the terrible 11-15-05, 05:21 PM	Like others, I pass over such threads and on to more interesting topics.
eudas 11-15-05, 05:28 PM	Like others, I pass over such threads and on to more interesting topics. They died down for a while, too, but now it seems that they're approximately 50% of the active topics. eudas
Vaalingrade Ashland 11-15-05, 05:39 PM	And now, a counter open letter from President* Vaal. Dear everyone making all the fun list threads, you are obviously not appreciated on these boards. In the future, please post such threads on my boards (http://www.ledgermaincomics.com/forum/) where you will no longer suffer the slings and arrows of your fellow countrymen. This has been an amazingly oppurtunistic open letter from President* Vaal. *Glourious** Leader*** for Life **Brutal ***Dictator
loaba 11-15-05, 05:46 PM	^Yes - go there.
Kesht 11-15-05, 05:47 PM	I give it 2 days before this thread becomes: "1001 reasons the 1001 threads are dumb/good/awesome/like fruitcake" :D
eudas 11-15-05, 05:52 PM	I give it 2 days before this thread becomes: "1001 reasons the 1001 threads are dumb/good/awesome/like fruitcake" :D ROFL. Indeed - "beware ye who fight monsters, lest ye become monsters yourself." eudas
BeyondFated 11-15-05, 05:58 PM	Where's EatFlan when you need him? In the immortal words of Wen the Eternally Surprised: "Ah," said Wen, "one of the hard ones..."
Dark Stryke 11-15-05, 06:05 PM	And now, a counter open letter from President* Vaal. Dear everyone making all the fun list threads, you are obviously not appreciated on these boards. In the future, please post such threads on my boards (http://www.ledgermaincomics.com/forum/) where you will no longer suffer the slings and arrows of your fellow countrymen. This has been an amazingly oppurtunistic open letter from President* Vaal. *Glourious** Leader*** for Life **Brutal ***Dictator :clap: Vaalingrade, may I make you one of my heroes? Ahem, on to the topic at hand. I feel that the 1001 threads are usually amusing. The ones that last are pretty funny, and the ones that don't fade into oblivion like all the other crappy threads. Honestly, it's everyone's board. If you don't like the 1001 threads, don't read them. it can't possibly be that terrible for you to see the title. If you find the mere sight of a thread you don't want to and don't have to read so repulsive, what are you doing have contact with the outside world anyway? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go read some more of the 1001 reasons that I am an evil DM. I hope the thought of my laughter doesn't offend you guys too much.
Capfalcon 11-15-05, 06:10 PM	Personally, I don't even read 'em anymore - because they're all the same. However, I do feel like quite a few of the 1001 examples in this particular forum have no business actually being here at all. They aren't really dealing with DM issues so much as they're just mindless chit-chat crap. *goes to grab Alchemest Fire and Flaming crossbow bolts to fight the troll* Riiiiiiight... And this has what to do with a rules question or advice for a problem in game. This, my trolly friend, is an example of hypocracy. You complain that people post on the wrong board, but this belongs on the general board. Also, why can't the DM's board have a little humor? I seem to remember a 1001 thread being stickied in the "What is a player to do?" So, the WizO's apparently at least tolerate them.
feartheinvinceblehamster 11-15-05, 06:11 PM	Very well, we shall make....10,001 ways to tell your an evil DM, then 100,001, then 1,000,001, 10,000,0001, 100,000,001....
Edymnion 11-15-05, 06:11 PM	If you don't like the 1001 threads, don't read them. it can't possibly be that terrible for you to see the title.No, the problem is that every 1001 thread bumps another, more constructive thread off the front page of the boards. Which means the junk threads kill the good ones. Which is a bad thing.
loaba 11-15-05, 06:29 PM	*goes to grab Alchemest Fire and Flaming crossbow bolts to fight the troll* You probably need to look up that term, seeing as how you are not using it correctly. Click Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_trolling) to learn more about what internet trolling really is. Riiiiiiight... And this has what to do with a rules question or advice for a problem in game. Exactly, this thread, and the 1001 threads which it references, have squat to do with DMing issues. But, there is a difference between the two. The OP placed this thread here, in the DM forum, in order to address a recurring problem on this board in particular. This, my trolly friend, is an example of hypocracy. Only if you're an idiot. Where else is he going to post his concern? The OP's comments are relevant to the content in this forum. Also, why can't the DM's board have a little humor? Sure it can, but does it really need a 1001 topic concerning player's last words? No, it doesn't. This board should be for serious discussion in relation to DM issues. Seriously, learn what a term means before you bandy it about.
Always-Late 11-15-05, 06:34 PM	What's wrong with the, say, 1001 house rules thread?
Edymnion 11-15-05, 06:36 PM	What's wrong with the, say, 1001 house rules thread?Other than, by its very nature, it quickly becomes a huge morass of posts that are next to impossible to find anything useful in unless you want to read through a dozen pages of "Here's my critical fumble table!" and "Here's my Called Shot rulez!"?
Silais 11-15-05, 06:59 PM	I too enjoy the 1001 <insert random topic here> threads, Sometimes I'll even add to one. But I do have to agree with Edymnion's point about pointlessly bumping more serrious threads. My question is why can't the moderators just create a sub forum for these threads, or simply impose a limit on the number aloud to be operational at a time? -Silais
allenchan 11-15-05, 07:09 PM	I really dont see how 1001 threads are better then poll threads. And yet, poll threads are against the code of conduct. One could even argue the 1001 threads are a type of poll.
Vaalingrade Ashland 11-15-05, 07:35 PM	:clap: Vaalingrade, may I make you one of my heroes? Yes, yes you may.
Ibbins 11-15-05, 08:10 PM	Sure it can, but does it really need a 1001 topic concerning player's last words? No, it doesn't. This board should be for serious discussion in relation to DM issues. "serious discussion in relation to DM issues" invariably concerns immature players and sticky outside relationships, for most of which the advice is "talk to him/her/them" or "kick him/her/them out of your game." One of the purposes of these boards is to serve as a place where DnD players can gather and tell their stories about their games. Considering the unspoken rule that all such stories actually came from a real game somewhere, several 1001 threads help to accomplish this. Other ones are just lists of suggestions/ideas that can be accepted or thrown out at the reader's leisure. The fact that they're titled as 1001 threads is generally irrelevant. And other than that, yes, many 1001 threads are worthless filler. But don't let that incriminate the worthwhile minority.
Vaelan 11-15-05, 08:23 PM	Please, for the love of God, quit it with the open letter to the community threads. I know you think anyone gives a flying ****. I know you think they address relevant issues. I know you think that you're helping. You are, of course, WRONG, and they're just clogging up the boards. And they're stupid. Thanks, Vaelan
loaba 11-15-05, 08:25 PM	"serious discussion in relation to DM issues" invariably concerns immature players and sticky outside relationships, for most of which the advice is "talk to him/her/them" or "kick him/her/them out of your game." And those types of threads should probably get the heave ho as well. The DMs forum should be a serious place to discuss your game and how to improve it. DMing for your 14yr old girlfriend (and dealing with your jealous friends who don't have girlfriends) should maybe not rate. :D
Fharlang 11-15-05, 08:37 PM	My question is why can't the moderators just create a sub forum for these threads -Silais They can we just have to agree on it. Currently we are attempting to divide the RPG Classifieds into 6 or 7 subdivisions and the moderators have said it is possible. See the Board post here: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=534863
Ryven 11-15-05, 08:37 PM	They may be useless and inane and whatnot. If ya don't like it, then don't read 'em. Besides, things like that remain popluar for a few weeks, then get bumped down into the unread pages. These sorts of threads pop up on every forum I've been on. Ya just learn to ignore them, 'cause there's honestly no point in fighting over it. "It takes up space".....? Yush. a whole half an inch on your screen, if your screen is small. Gods forbid. Besides, if we're gonna be following these rules, then this entire thread should be in a more appropriate forum, because this thread has nothing to do with DMing.
Khastalphos 11-15-05, 09:06 PM	Just let messageboard Darwinism breed them out. If they're really that bad and people really don't like them, they'll quickly go away when no one posts to them. If, on the other hand, they stay around for a while and receive many responses, then you may just be out of touch with the desires of this messageboard community and may want to find a new place to rant.
Edymnion 11-15-05, 09:06 PM	"It takes up space".....? Yush. a whole half an inch on your screen, if your screen is small. Gods forbid. [/COLOR]No, each one takes up 1/25th of the front page. As in, the default for forum pages is that they can only display 25 non-stickied posts at any given time. Which means every junk 1001 thread that gets bumped over and over is taking up a valuable piece of board real-estate. Of course, there is nothing that we can do about it, so we just don't bother to read those threads, but it is still annoying that the "good" (although, not all threads getting bumped are good by any stretch of the imagination) threads are getting bumped off the front page by "1001 Reasons Why Bards are Gay" threads.
Eightbitmage 11-15-05, 10:02 PM	Who is for turning this into a 1001 points and counter-points to the idea of 1001 threads?
KingTut 11-15-05, 10:14 PM	Just what I am seeing:out of the first 10 pages of threads only 11 of them are 101/1001 posts. That is only 11 out of 250 posts. Is that really that much space?
Surgo 11-15-05, 10:55 PM	Not to mention all the 1001 threads are usually stupid and unfunny. The only exception to this was the one with the Eberron airship pirates, which was hilarious but entirely situational. Seriously, folks. "1001 famous last words"? Might have been funny years ago. "1001 ways to tell that your an evil DM"? Lame. "1001 things in D&D that sound wrong, but arent"? Why is this even on the "What's a DM to Do?" forum? On the other hand, threads like "1001 Tricks and Traps" have the potential to be useful if they don't attract 1001 random idiots spamming them with whatever they think is funny or stupid that day.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 11-15-05, 11:20 PM	Just what I am seeing:out of the first 10 pages of threads only 11 of them are 101/1001 posts. That is only 11 out of 250 posts. Is that really that much space? Yes. In fact, why don't you check to see what the 11 threads that got bumped off the first 10 pages are. I'm willing to bet that at least several of them are far more useful than the 101/1001 crap.
KingTut 11-15-05, 11:30 PM	Well, going to the 11th page to see what got moved back.. What's this? A 1001 thread that was moved here from somewhere else. If they were so bad why was it moved to this board rather than deleted?
Vaalingrade Ashland 11-15-05, 11:33 PM	Yes. In fact, why don't you check to see what the 11 threads that got bumped off the first 10 pages are. I'm willing to bet that at least several of them are far more useful than the 101/1001 crap. Only about 2 threads per page are ever worth the digital ink they're printed with.
Callista 11-16-05, 12:15 AM	...which is pretty bad, because digital ink is darn cheap! I don't mind 1001 threads. They can be anywhere from a source of humor to a source of information; and I don't see why they're so annoying to everyone. I mean, if you don't want to read them, don't click on them... it isn't as though they're taking over the forums to the point that they're crowding out other threads. I'd rather have a good 1001 thread than a flame-breathing argument over Paladins any day.
Vaalingrade Ashland 11-16-05, 12:27 AM	Just a quick persual of the board yeilded these terribly important threads: - Random fight between two charters with differnt classes -- who will win? - Please tell me this rule it would take me 10 seconds to find on d20srd.org! - Look at me! I'm an Alignment Thread! - Look at me, I'm a thread for people to lie about the core rules in! - Is X a good class/race/spell/rule? I'm incapable of forming my own opinions. - Bashing bards #123 - I AM MAKING DEMANDS TO PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET! - Look at me, I'm an Alignment Thread! - Let me tell you a gaming story that probably should be on a list thread. - If you don't like Alignment, you're a moron who doesn't know how to use it (Look at me, I'm an Alignment Thread!) - OH NOES! Anime bad in game grrr! - I just want to say this spell/feat/class rocks/sucks/is balanced. Do you really want to lose these precious memories just so people can have a little DnD related (loosely in some cases) fun? I say NO! (mostly because those threads are wonderful fodder to mock in the comic)
Board_Rider 11-16-05, 12:33 AM	Oh how I love when people whine about free stuff. I also like it when those "Oops...please delete this" threads run on for 5+ pages. I also love it when people make up stupid points about "space"...that is too funny. As if using the scroll/click of a mouse is so monumental a task that doing so should warrant a complete removal of what some people find enjoying. How wonderfully ignorant sounding and selfish! Finally, I love pumpkin pie...thank god Thanksgiving is coming. Oh...one more thing: http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=46 That is where one can post things about the boards that they find troubling. Truly a wonderful world...
Silais 11-16-05, 12:56 AM	I'd rather have a good 1001 thread than a flame-breathing argument over Paladins any day. Awwww, I love reading those! Almost as much as I love it when someone gets mad at someone else for wanting to run an evil game. But here's a quick question. 1001 threads are obviously not going to go away anytime soon, board darwinism and all. So why do we care so much if this guy hates them? He does have a right to hate them, and this being an open forum, he does have the right to express that (his minor mistake of not posting this in the Board buisness board aside.) So if we realy want to silence this, why don't we just stop responding and let this thread die into oblivian? Okay, I guess thats two quick questions, but who's realy THAT nitpickish?
Slyde Shadowdart 11-16-05, 01:41 AM	Vaal, if you get rid of the post types you've given as examples, what would you read? Seriously. Some people seem to forget that the community of players isn't static. When a new player comes along and finds that there's a place to talk about being a new DM, and he/she has their first alignment problem, is your line of reasoning to extend to them not asking and receiving help, simply because you're "tired of seeing them?" (BTW, this paragraph isn't to Vaal or any specific "you", it's a general query.) Maybe saying "search for threads about that" would be okay. Oh wait, no, the search function has been down forever. (And as far as searching the cache/site using google, you've got to be kidding me. I'd ask way before I'd ever waste my time trying to pick the dross that comes up.) I know this whine thread is about the 1001 posts, but you're all quickly delving into the region of self-defeat. Why is a forum there at all, if not for discussion and entertainment? (And for those prepared to come back with the "but it's not relevant to the DM/Player/Etc. forum", say that the nex time you post to a thread about <<insert topic that has nothing to do with DMing but that you don't mind seeing>>.) Don't want to read, don't have to click. And to those that say "it takes up space", well, it isn't your server space, and is having to skip a post really exacting that much of a toll from you? If so, perhaps you should go lie down. I don't know how you'd ever get through an actual game session if not clicking an internet thread is so taxing. Note that there is no malice intended by this post (although there is some light-hearted ribbing, which if you can't take, you need much thicker skin; if you can't laugh at yourself and all that).
fragnar0k 11-16-05, 02:38 AM	they don't take up any more room than this post. And "room" on a electronic medium is a pretty nebulous concept. Obviously, a few extra threads are a negligible strain on the WOTC servers, but they do *clutter* the boards, which is annoying. They keep much worthier threads from being noticed when they're bumped to the top. I don`t think the "1001 threads" take more space than all the post whining about the "1001 threads". If you don`t like em don`t read em. Certainly, valid point. He doesn't have to read them. But all you 1001 fangirls (and boys) don't need 9 different 1001 threads on TPKs and killing players, do you? It's excessive, and unnecessary in that sense. I don't have a problem with the 1001s in general, just the constant rehashes of the same old ones again and again. And Eudas: Hear, hear.
fragnar0k 11-16-05, 02:40 AM	Do you really want to lose these precious memories just so people can have a little DnD related (loosely in some cases) fun? I say NO! (mostly because those threads are wonderful fodder to mock in the comic) Hilarious translation of the doublespeak, man. I love it. Also: What comic?
fragnar0k 11-16-05, 02:44 AM	Seriously, folks. "1001 famous last words"? Might have been funny years ago. "1001 ways to tell that your an evil DM"? Lame. "1001 things in D&D that sound wrong, but arent"? Why is this even on the "What's a DM to Do?" forum? On the other hand, threads like "1001 Tricks and Traps" have the potential to be useful if they don't attract 1001 random idiots spamming them with whatever they think is funny or stupid that day. You summed it all up beautifully. Get the 1001 crap out of here, and put it in D&D general, with the rest of the unwashed masses. Us DMs here on mount olympus are busy sipping our nectar and munching on our Divine Ambrosia. I would also be in favor of 1001 threads, if they were actually useful, or inspiring, but it's almost always immature drivel (and rehashes of that).
Vaalingrade Ashland 11-16-05, 03:01 AM	Vaal, if you get rid of the post types you've given as examples, what would you read? Slayers and Rune Soldier fan ficton, mostly. The saucy kind. Hilarious translation of the doublespeak, man. I love it. Also: What comic? in my sig, my good man.
chaz100 11-16-05, 03:02 AM	Well I and a lot of other people enjoy them. If you don't enjoy them then don't put your mouse on the link, and for god's sake don't click on it! There could be a 101 board! :D
Soel Griffin 11-16-05, 03:10 AM	Seriously. Some people seem to forget that the community of players isn't static. When a new player comes along and finds that there's a place to talk about being a new DM, and he/she has their first alignment problem, is your line of reasoning to extend to them not asking and receiving help, simply because you're "tired of seeing them?" (BTW, this paragraph isn't to Vaal or any specific "you", it's a general query.) Maybe saying "search for threads about that" would be okay. Oh wait, no, the search function has been down forever. (And as far as searching the cache/site using google, you've got to be kidding me. I'd ask way before I'd ever waste my time trying to pick the dross that comes up.) I know this whine thread is about the 1001 posts, but you're all quickly delving into the region of self-defeat. Why is a forum there at all, if not for discussion and entertainment? (And for those prepared to come back with the "but it's not relevant to the DM/Player/Etc. forum", say that the nex time you post to a thread about <<insert topic that has nothing to do with DMing but that you don't mind seeing>>.) Don't want to read, don't have to click. And to those that say "it takes up space", well, it isn't your server space, and is having to skip a post really exacting that much of a toll from you? If so, perhaps you should go lie down. I don't know how you'd ever get through an actual game session if not clicking an internet thread is so taxing. Well said...
Dragonchild 11-16-05, 08:22 AM	The moderators here are relatively laissez-faire (and I prefer it that way), so stupid questions and "1001" lists are just the price we pay for using a free resource. Now, if worthy threads are getting bumped, that means the general on-line community is passing up quality discussion in favor of crap. If anything, that only tells me I gotta surf somewhere else until the average I.Q. in the D&D boards ticks upwards again.
Turin 11-16-05, 10:17 AM	This thread belongs on the metaboards (RPG Boards Business) rather than WaDMtD. The metaboards is where you go to post threads about improving the web community so that when they become discussions of how to do this they can be locked. :rolleyes:
eudas 11-16-05, 11:05 AM	This thread belongs on the metaboards (RPG Boards Business) rather than WaDMtD. The metaboards is where you go to post threads about improving the web community so that when they become discussions of how to do this they can be locked. :rolleyes: Assuming that the quote above is correct, then if a WizOp would be so kind as to move the thread where it should be, that would be wonderful. eudas
olshanski_home 11-16-05, 12:50 PM	I have an idea: watch the "Whats a DM to DO" boards for further developments! I promise something within 2 hours (after I've eaten lunch).
eudas 11-16-05, 02:12 PM	I have an idea: watch the "Whats a DM to DO" boards for further developments! I promise something within 2 hours (after I've eaten lunch). Nice looking format and such. Good luck with that, olshanski. eudas
olshanski_home 11-16-05, 02:17 PM	We'll see if there are any takers for my 1001 traps thread. Personally, I believe that there will be few to no entries. The people who seem to like posting on 1001 lists tend to throw out half-baked ideas with little consideration of whether it is actually a good idea: "anti-gravity with spikes on ceiling!" Anyone can say it... lets you put real stats on it, and give it a reason for existing!
Dark Stryke 11-16-05, 09:08 PM	No, the problem is that every 1001 thread bumps another, more constructive thread off the front page of the boards. Which means the junk threads kill the good ones. Which is a bad thing. Now I can see three things wrong with this logic: 1) If it's at the bottom of the page, it's less constructive and less well enjoyed than the threads above it. Like the 1001 thread that knocked it off. 2) If you can't turn the page to "rescue" your "constructive" thread, you're just lazy, and obviously the thread couldn't have been that important or interesting if you don't want to take the effort to read it. 3) It's not a junk thread if people enjoy it enough to post on it. How can you call something that brightens many people's days junk? Once more, this is their board as much as anybody elses. If they want to put the 1001 thread up there, and it stays alive, it's because people are enjoying it, and it isn't junk, Now, I don't mean to offend anyone, nor do I mean to imply that anyone on this board is lazy. I do not mean to single out Edymnion. He just summed up the argument of the people who are against the 1001 threads nicely (and in a way I could counter-argue :D ). Finally, I don't see the point of this thread. I haven't looked at some of the second and third page yet, but it looks like it's descending into a flame war, which is less constructive than the threads it's fighting against. Now, this fight is ineffectual. No matter how much people complain about them, the 1001 threads are here to stay. The Wizos aren't going to close them, because enough people enjoy them that it's just not good Public Relations to go and close them down. Also, people are either going to ignore the OP's letter, and keep posting 1001 threads as they see fit, or they're going to defend them, and the people who don't like the 1001 threads are going to rush in and attack them, and pretty soon everyone is going to be attacking each other. So why bother? Heck, someone is probably going to attack me for this thread, I'll take offense, hopefully not say something I'll regret later, and the cycle will continue until a Wizo comes in and shuts this thing down. Oh, and a troll is a Monster in the monster manual. You're all humans. Stop calling each other trolls.
UltimateReality 11-16-05, 09:50 PM	Nice looking format and such.Huh? Wha? I don't see anything...am I unpriveledged or just lacking in intelligence like everyone else? ;)
olshanski_home 11-16-05, 10:12 PM	Huh? Wha? I don't see anything...am I unpriveledged or just lacking in intelligence like everyone else? ;)I'm not sure if that is a joke or not... Look on the boards for a 1001 traps thread started by Olshanski. It's my constructive response to the complaints about 1001 threads.
UltimateReality 11-16-05, 11:03 PM	I'm not sure if that is a joke or not...Hm. So I am blind and dumb. Good to know. Look on the boards for a 1001 traps thread started by Olshanski. :blink: :eek: OMG. I just realized for the first time that your name ends in "ski". I always read it Olshanki...wtf...I feel really, really retarded now. :P Time for bed or something. :embarrass