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| Steeltwo08-09-05, 02:44 PM | we've got one of our players that just started with another group. she has already started talking about "in my other game they do it this way" BS. how is one to deal with it? odds are, it'll just sound like this player "in my other game we" dm intrupts"is this the other game, NO" but how do you deal with it? |
| Illion the Red08-09-05, 02:49 PM | Put up a suggestion box. Point to it whenever the player starts to slip into the "In my other game..." Make sure that you stop everything. No Dice rolling, no roleplaying, no speaking, nothing. Eventually the player will get the hint. There may be other, less rude and obnoxious methods for dealing with this issue, but I'm in a "mood." |
| dragonchic150008-09-05, 03:01 PM | Talk to this player outside of game time; explain that the constant interruptions concerning what is done in the other game are detracting from your game. Suggest to the player that they make up a list of things that are done in the other game, which you will then go over. If there are any rule variants, etc. that you are willing to DM with, you will then present these to the group who can then vote on it. Don't be harsh or degrading. Let the player know that you are interested in their ideas; it's just that in the middle of battle is not the time to share. This is of course assuming you want to keep this player. If not then a) kick them out with a brief explanation why or b) be rude until they leave on their own. Is it possible that this player is young or new to gaming? If so this may simply be their attempt to share their limited experiences. If your group is anything like the ones I have been in, there comes a time when the more experienced players begin swapping stories of campaigns long ago, so this may be your troublesome player's attempt to join in. |
| AntiDjinn08-09-05, 03:02 PM | It depends on whether she is acutally trying to be helpful with a suggestion or is just being whiney or critical. If she is being critical then what she is really saying is: "Another DM, whom I wish to point out is better than you, does..." If her asides are pointless and not helpful then get one of those "My other car is a .........." bumperstickers and stick it across her mouth. Explain that during play you care about as much about her other game as people trying to drive care what someone else's other car is. |
| allenchan08-09-05, 03:14 PM | On one hand, maybe its obnoxious and aggrevating. On the other hand, maybe you should listen to her? Clearly she has more fun in theo ther group, and dnd is all about fun, so what is making her other game that much more interesting? |
| TheChilliGod08-09-05, 03:40 PM | Ooh! I've got one of those! They can be quite fun. "In my game we give NPC battle participants their own share of xp while the players still get their full share." Well guess what? I forgot that the NPC participated in the battle when dishing out xp anyway! "In my game we NEVER have any multiclassing" Well guess what? You just said the other day that you wanted to be a Streetfighter prestige class! BURN! I do actually listen to this guy, because he's sort of my role model, but there's always something to shove his ideas down the drain or completely ignore them while still implementing them. In my game that's the way I handle things. Take the advice or take the advice of other people who have suggested the tried-and-true talking method, the suggestion box or the bumper sticker. |
| Steeltwo08-09-05, 04:13 PM | On one hand, maybe its obnoxious and aggrevating. On the other hand, maybe you should listen to her? Clearly she has more fun in theo ther group, and dnd is all about fun, so what is making her other game that much more interesting? we haven't actually played yet she started this sometime this weekend. the big ticket items were more gold, more magic items. that is good to a point, but if you never have to work for magic items or gold. WTF is the point. She voiced in their other game, they ganked a gang of orgres(4) and each person(4 in the group) recieved some weapons/armor that were in the area of +7. I dunno about you, but killing 4 orgres(straight out of the book) to me is not worth a single +7 item, much less 4 items. maybe i'm an ahole? |
| Shazarn08-09-05, 04:17 PM | No, but the other DM is giving them way to much money and equipment. |
| Nyarlathotep08-09-05, 04:31 PM | If the player isn't being a horses posterior about it, by interrupting me in mid-game or something along those lines. I'd go ahead and listen, I never pass up the opportunity to pick up a new trick or two. Otherwise, I'd just politely nod, continue with the game as before and ignore them. Eventually they'll either get the hint and shut up or leave on their own accord. |
| 20goingon123208-09-05, 05:01 PM | we've got one of our players that just started with another group. she has already started talking about "in my other game they do it this way" BS. how is one to deal with it? odds are, it'll just sound like this player "in my other game we" dm intrupts"is this the other game, NO" but how do you deal with it? There is nothing inherently wrong with this. Taken to an extreme, yes. But not otherwise. For example, the spell "Grease". In my game, I ruled it as real grease and you can set fire to it. I wanted to do the same in another DM's campaign. It is inevitable that while the DM was considering it, the "that is what I did in my campaign" phrase slipped out. In the end, he ruled against doing it that way. And so, we moved on. The fact that you acted so defensively to suggestions (unless she is really pushing you) is not a good sign, IMO. |
| Fixxxer08-09-05, 05:08 PM | I'm not saying you should do this, I'm just going to tell you how I deal with this situation. Player: "Well in my other game, the DM lets us buy magic items whenever we're in town." DM: "Really?" Player: "Yep." DM: "Die in a fire! I don't care!" |
| Steeltwo08-09-05, 05:33 PM | The fact that you acted so defensively to suggestions (unless she is really pushing you) is not a good sign, IMO. as it hasn't happened yet, I dunno how I could have acted defensively. :P i know what you mean though. Her input will be listened too. The best idea I ever recieved from a gamer(in GURPS) was a 100% newbie. Never played a RPG in her life. Her idea changed the game for the better. But I just do not want her to keep saying, "well in the other game" and repeat the phrase 10x times. |
| Radijs08-09-05, 05:35 PM | I have a player like that. I just tell im. Not in my game. |
| StormCrow4208-09-05, 07:01 PM | Put up a table sign Tell us how it's done in your other game: $25 |
| Fixxxer08-09-05, 09:27 PM | Put up a table sign Tell us how it's done in your other game: $25 Oh, damn! That's good! :clap: |
| pres_man08-09-05, 10:17 PM | I wonder if the phrase "in my other game", is used mostly as a sign of validity. That the suggestion isn't just being pulled out of the air (or some lower region), that it may be a tested procedure. Often times these suggestions can be useful if this is the first time the group has run into a certain problem/issue. I know I've used, "I read on a post on Wizards that most people interpreted it to work like ..." There is nothing wrong with using other sources to help your game. But when the DM decides, this is how it works. That is it, no "but in the other game ..." stuff. |
| Phrennzy08-09-05, 10:23 PM | we've got one of our players that just started with another group. she has already started talking about "in my other game they do it this way" BS. how is one to deal with it? odds are, it'll just sound like this player "in my other game we" dm intrupts"is this the other game, NO" but how do you deal with it? Punch her in the face. "In my oth-WHAM!-" |
| SwitchUK08-09-05, 10:27 PM | Keep a trained bear on standby. Teach it to go for the throat of anyone who says "In my other game..." Failing that, I favour this approach: "Well, this isn't your other game this is MY game, and we do things MY way here. If you don't like it, tough ass-cookies. Now will you PLEASE stop talking about how things are done in your other :censored: game?" Feel free to insert the bit about Elminster from my sig if you think it will help. |
| 20goingon123208-09-05, 10:35 PM | as it hasn't happened yet, I dunno how I could have acted defensively. :P i know what you mean though. Her input will be listened too. The best idea I ever recieved from a gamer(in GURPS) was a 100% newbie. Never played a RPG in her life. Her idea changed the game for the better. But I just do not want her to keep saying, "well in the other game" and repeat the phrase 10x times. Your original post states otherwise. |
| AntiDjinn08-09-05, 10:44 PM | Well, if the game hasn't even started yet she probably figures you want input on backgroud and pregame, but it already sounds like she is bargaining for Monty Hall. Wait until play actually starts before you decide if it is intollerable. Also take heart in knowing that soon enough her other DM is going to be hearing the same litany about you and your game. "And this one time, at band camp......" |
| Ut-Napishtim08-09-05, 10:46 PM | Show her this thread. Reveal to her that in her other game the DM buys the players' approval with gold and toys, but you prefer to try it on your own merits. Call her a golddigger until she leaves. Or all of the above. |
| weasel fierce08-10-05, 01:19 AM | Advise the player kindly that you are happy to discuss game rules, but that it is under two conditions 1: It happens purely BEFORE or AFTER gaming sessions, not during a session or during play 2: You reserve the final right to any decisions as regards the game you are DMing |
| Ze_Mighty_Vegetable08-10-05, 02:30 AM | Put up a suggestion box. Point to it whenever the player starts to slip into the "In my other game..." Make sure that you stop everything. No Dice rolling, no roleplaying, no speaking, nothing. Eventually the player will get the hint. Brillant. I'd say, if his behavior get bothersome, call him on some things he say. If you can manage it, have his ex-DM play in this game. Or ask to meet said DM. |
| Vaelan08-10-05, 03:07 AM | I would suggest belittling the mental capabilities of the person who runs the other game and continuing on with the game. I would like to note that I suggest belittling the mental capabilities of the person who runs the other game on the principle of the effect it would have on the player that keeps saying "In my other game...", and not because of any specifics mentioned in this thread, even though they do support my suggested statement. |
| MortalPlague08-10-05, 03:18 AM | more gold, more magic items. There are two different kinds of "in my other game". One involves house rules and rule interpretations, and ought to be listened to and considered if it's reasonable. The other is this one; a demand for more loot/xp/power. Just say no. |
| SamiPeikko08-10-05, 04:04 AM | There are two different kinds of "in my other game". One involves house rules and rule interpretations, and ought to be listened to and considered if it's reasonable. The other is this one; a demand for more loot/xp/power. Just say no. Exactly. I too am guilty to "in my other game". First there is childish bragging about the statistics and capabilities of the other character, or anecdotes from last session, but I only do that before session actually begins. The other one is trying to present all resonable options and their effect (including personal preferences) to any rule ambiguity that comes up and is not already decided by GM. This includes sometimes opposing another player who uses "In my game I ruled that". May our GM have strenght to suffer us. P.S. +7 equivalent weapons from 4 ogres might be fun. Just calculate how many character levels the ogres need to have such a treasure, make them wizard, cleric, fighter (with spiked chain specials) and rogue, and of course said weapons are large and actually wielded by said ogres... Just remember to wait a year or two of real time for the party to level up. |
| cutsleeve08-10-05, 04:19 AM | I say wait until her character walks into a dungeon and opens a door. then say. DM: as you open the door the magic user..... dies. Then uh... her: Huh? what do you mean my mage dies? DM: he just sorta choked and died. her: Dont i even get a saving throw? DM: nope. her: Can i cast a spell. DM: nope. If she complains further try to explain it like this. DM: alright what your asking is, if your character survives a point blank blast of firebreath in the face and stumbles off a 300 ft cliff into a pool of molten lava, does he survive? |
| caeruleus08-10-05, 04:36 AM | Player: In my other campaign <blah, blah, blah>. DM: [smiles and nods] That's nice. Thank you for sharing. There's no reason you have to actually do anything with what she says. |
| Alynn08-10-05, 09:34 AM | I clearly state my houserules, if they don't like them they don't have to play, I've never heard in my other game. Even the guy that has DM'd for years upon years knows not what to expect IMC because he's never played a homebrew world (FR only for him)... so it's even new to him. just remind them that their other game, isn't this one, thats it... Think of D&D like the final fantasy series, a bunch of different worlds, all slightly different, but based off the same model... and there you go. |
| Ravenseye08-10-05, 09:37 AM | but how do you deal with it? Roll on the wandering damage table. |
| Steeltwo08-10-05, 10:08 AM | Roll on the wandering damage table. LOL so last night was the game. She didn't do it at all. Just before the game she talked about the different things. Not once in the game did she say anything about "in my other game" ended up getting some monay and a small item. Mainly from stuff taken from dead bodies. But was allowed to sell them to someone who actually had enough gp's on hand to purchase a few of those items. so it's all good. thx for the replies. |
| Thoronmir08-10-05, 10:18 AM | I wonder if the phrase "in my other game", is used mostly as a sign of validity. That the suggestion isn't just being pulled out of the air (or some lower region), that it may be a tested procedure. Often times these suggestions can be useful if this is the first time the group has run into a certain problem/issue. I know I've used, "I read on a post on Wizards that most people interpreted it to work like ..." There is nothing wrong with using other sources to help your game. But when the DM decides, this is how it works. That is it, no "but in the other game ..." stuff.Very insightful pres_man. I see that form of self-validation all the time in my work. It is as if the imprimatur of third-party approval makes a suggestion more meritorious. In my experience, this device is used most often by people who lack confidence in their own ideas, so they seek to add the illusion of “acceptance” to give their opinions more weight. Having one’s ideas stand naked and alone for all to see, dissect, and criticize can be daunting. At least, that’s what I and the fourteen psychiatrists helping me write this post think. :D As someone noted, the phrase “in my other game” usually prefaces one of two types of issues … rules interpretations or style/setting. Rules interpretations can include offering a different view of the RAW or suggesting a house rule. In the case of the former, I usually listen, just to make sure I’m interpreting the RAW correctly. In the case of the latter, I ask that they submit the proposed house rule to me in writing (preferably via email) and I will consider it before the next session. As for suggestions on style or setting (e.g., handing out more XP or more magic), I’m less patient. However, since I regularly solicit input from the players as to what type of game they want to play, I’d be a hypocrite not to pay heed to such comments. But such suggestions have a proper time and place, and it’s not during the actual session. |
| Bane08-10-05, 11:17 AM | "In your other game, you aren't sitting at my table. It's time for you to decide which game you would like to be in right now." |
| Clawhound08-10-05, 11:24 AM | "Not all games are the same. You are free to comment at the beginning and end of the game. I'm happy to hear your comparisons, and explain why I do what I do. Once the game starts, we have enough to argue about with this game." |
| Phrennzy08-10-05, 11:34 AM | LOL so last night was the game. She didn't do it at all. Just before the game she talked about the different things. Not once in the game did she say anything about "in my other game" ended up getting some monay and a small item. Mainly from stuff taken from dead bodies. But was allowed to sell them to someone who actually had enough gp's on hand to purchase a few of those items. so it's all good. thx for the replies. Punch yourself in the face. Originally Posted by Steeltwo: "we've got one of our players that just started with another group. she has already started talk-WHAM!" |
| Steeltwo08-10-05, 01:52 PM | Punch yourself in the face. Originally Posted by Steeltwo: "we've got one of our players that just started with another group. she has already started talk-WHAM!" you avaitar is probly the best i've seen on here. |
| Phrennzy08-10-05, 02:05 PM | change "probly" to "defnitly" and we are in agreement. |
| Illion the Red08-10-05, 02:07 PM | change "probly" to "defnitly" and we are in agreement. Ego-stroking noted :) |