Anyone been Exalted lately...? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Anyone been Exalted lately...? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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PenderGrass
10-24-03, 10:37 AM So, the BoED is here to offset the BoVD.... as experienced and cherry DMs have rushed out to get this newest of new books - I am sure you all have it in your greedy little paws as you read thru this post - right?

First question - there are no real specifics about how the DM should setup the change fropm a 'normal' PC to and 'exalted' one - they give some real broad strokes - but no real specifics - anyone got anything fingered out here?

Second Question - there is a Feat, Righteous Rage, that allows for the rager to have a certain amount of 'clarity of mind' whilst raging - the rager is able to perform and do things that normally would not be allowed - now question is, one of the things listed is that the rager can "now distinguish friend from foe"???

Did I miss something here?

This implies that the normal Barbarian cannot distinguish friend from foe? I don't see this detailed in the PHB - is this something that any of you enforce? Do your barbarians attack the nearest thing?
Kieran Bloodthorne
10-24-03, 11:13 AM I think they put that in there to cover the Beserker PRC as well as the Barbarian.

As for achieving exaltedness, it actually is quite easy. Your character must be of good alignment and must abide by the code of conduct in the front of the book. Any breach of this code results in the loss of all exalted abilities until an atonement is given.
Kalanth
10-24-03, 12:08 PM I say the code in the front is more of a guideline, as long as you are not going against it in an over the top fasion, then you should be fine. Mostly, they leave things vage like that because that is where the DM takes over and puts his own personal spin on it. So I would rule that the DM is the one that really makes the final call, just like the DM makes the final call on his truly Vile NPC's.
bitnine
10-24-03, 12:10 PM Originally posted by PenderGrass
Second Question - there is a Feat, Righteous Rage, that allows for the rager to have a certain amount of 'clarity of mind' whilst raging - the rager is able to perform and do things that normally would not be allowed - now question is, one of the things listed is that the rager can "now distinguish friend from foe"???

I wonder if that's for all those Choatic Good Frenzied Berserkers out there.
PenderGrass
10-24-03, 01:02 PM As for achieving exaltedness, it actually is quite easy. Your character must be of good alignment and must abide by the code of conduct in the front of the book. Any breach of this code results in the loss of all exalted abilities until an atonement is given

So..., in your game you would let one of your PCs standing guard late at night suddenly decide to be 'Exalted' - and boom! just like that - they ARE!!?

That seems a bit easy considering it is supposed to be something 'special.'
Dex The King
10-24-03, 02:47 PM Most characters that deserve to be called "Exalted" are characters with an exalted feat, just like vile characters have vile feats. All prestige classes that are "exalted" require at least one exalted feat, just as all vile prestige classes require at least one vile feat.

I remember, directly from the text, that to acquire an exalted feat a character not only has to meet the prerequisites, like a normal feat, but has to perform some sort of ritual, learn it from a good outsider, or something like that.

Now it is quite easy to become exalted if a DM does not enforce these requirements. Personally, I would not allow a character to spontaneously "grow" a Nimbus of Light around him/her/it without some form of explanation for it.
Rudigrrr
10-24-03, 02:57 PM is this book out already???
bitnine
10-24-03, 03:06 PM You mean a character doesn't just wake up one morning and say to themselves, "You know, I just realized how totally awesome I am," and then discover their new Exalted nature? Because that's how I'd want to play it.
ssampier
10-24-03, 07:06 PM There is already a board for Book of Exalted Deeds, but unfortunately it is on the mature forum (you must be 17+ to access).

http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=434
Kieran Bloodthorne
10-29-03, 09:58 AM Originally posted by PenderGrass
So..., in your game you would let one of your PCs standing guard late at night suddenly decide to be 'Exalted' - and boom! just like that - they ARE!!?

That seems a bit easy considering it is supposed to be something 'special.'

No, but I would allow a good aligned character that pretty much already lived by the code that wanted to pursue exaltedness to take an exalted feat if he wanted. If some in game explanation was needed because of the nature of the feat (Nimbus of Light, for instance) I would come up with one. A meeting with a celestial may very well occur soon after if the player is serious about pursuing the exalted path, but if what you're asking is if I'd put the screws to a player that wanted the feat, the answer is no.
Mike the DM
10-29-03, 10:48 AM Originally posted by PenderGrass
First question - there are no real specifics about how the DM should setup the change fropm a 'normal' PC to and 'exalted' one - they give some real broad strokes - but no real specifics - anyone got anything fingered out here? I seem to recall that meeting a good outsider somehow figured into it. At any rate, I think the intention was that like a PrC, there is some DM-determined in-game mechanic for becoming exalted.

Originally posted by PenderGrass
Second Question - there is a Feat, Righteous Rage, that allows for the rager to have a certain amount of 'clarity of mind' whilst raging - the rager is able to perform and do things that normally would not be allowed - now question is, one of the things listed is that the rager can "now distinguish friend from foe"??? This is for good frenzied berserkers, not barbarians.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
PenderGrass 10-24-03, 10:37 AM	So, the BoED is here to offset the BoVD.... as experienced and cherry DMs have rushed out to get this newest of new books - I am sure you all have it in your greedy little paws as you read thru this post - right? First question - there are no real specifics about how the DM should setup the change fropm a 'normal' PC to and 'exalted' one - they give some real broad strokes - but no real specifics - anyone got anything fingered out here? Second Question - there is a Feat, Righteous Rage, that allows for the rager to have a certain amount of 'clarity of mind' whilst raging - the rager is able to perform and do things that normally would not be allowed - now question is, one of the things listed is that the rager can "now distinguish friend from foe"??? Did I miss something here? This implies that the normal Barbarian cannot distinguish friend from foe? I don't see this detailed in the PHB - is this something that any of you enforce? Do your barbarians attack the nearest thing?
Kieran Bloodthorne 10-24-03, 11:13 AM	I think they put that in there to cover the Beserker PRC as well as the Barbarian. As for achieving exaltedness, it actually is quite easy. Your character must be of good alignment and must abide by the code of conduct in the front of the book. Any breach of this code results in the loss of all exalted abilities until an atonement is given.
Kalanth 10-24-03, 12:08 PM	I say the code in the front is more of a guideline, as long as you are not going against it in an over the top fasion, then you should be fine. Mostly, they leave things vage like that because that is where the DM takes over and puts his own personal spin on it. So I would rule that the DM is the one that really makes the final call, just like the DM makes the final call on his truly Vile NPC's.
bitnine 10-24-03, 12:10 PM	Originally posted by PenderGrass Second Question - there is a Feat, Righteous Rage, that allows for the rager to have a certain amount of 'clarity of mind' whilst raging - the rager is able to perform and do things that normally would not be allowed - now question is, one of the things listed is that the rager can "now distinguish friend from foe"??? I wonder if that's for all those Choatic Good Frenzied Berserkers out there.
PenderGrass 10-24-03, 01:02 PM	As for achieving exaltedness, it actually is quite easy. Your character must be of good alignment and must abide by the code of conduct in the front of the book. Any breach of this code results in the loss of all exalted abilities until an atonement is given So..., in your game you would let one of your PCs standing guard late at night suddenly decide to be 'Exalted' - and boom! just like that - they ARE!!? That seems a bit easy considering it is supposed to be something 'special.'
Dex The King 10-24-03, 02:47 PM	Most characters that deserve to be called "Exalted" are characters with an exalted feat, just like vile characters have vile feats. All prestige classes that are "exalted" require at least one exalted feat, just as all vile prestige classes require at least one vile feat. I remember, directly from the text, that to acquire an exalted feat a character not only has to meet the prerequisites, like a normal feat, but has to perform some sort of ritual, learn it from a good outsider, or something like that. Now it is quite easy to become exalted if a DM does not enforce these requirements. Personally, I would not allow a character to spontaneously "grow" a Nimbus of Light around him/her/it without some form of explanation for it.
Rudigrrr 10-24-03, 02:57 PM	is this book out already???
bitnine 10-24-03, 03:06 PM	You mean a character doesn't just wake up one morning and say to themselves, "You know, I just realized how totally awesome I am," and then discover their new Exalted nature? Because that's how I'd want to play it.
ssampier 10-24-03, 07:06 PM	There is already a board for Book of Exalted Deeds, but unfortunately it is on the mature forum (you must be 17+ to access). http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=434
Kieran Bloodthorne 10-29-03, 09:58 AM	Originally posted by PenderGrass So..., in your game you would let one of your PCs standing guard late at night suddenly decide to be 'Exalted' - and boom! just like that - they ARE!!? That seems a bit easy considering it is supposed to be something 'special.' No, but I would allow a good aligned character that pretty much already lived by the code that wanted to pursue exaltedness to take an exalted feat if he wanted. If some in game explanation was needed because of the nature of the feat (Nimbus of Light, for instance) I would come up with one. A meeting with a celestial may very well occur soon after if the player is serious about pursuing the exalted path, but if what you're asking is if I'd put the screws to a player that wanted the feat, the answer is no.
Mike the DM 10-29-03, 10:48 AM	Originally posted by PenderGrass First question - there are no real specifics about how the DM should setup the change fropm a 'normal' PC to and 'exalted' one - they give some real broad strokes - but no real specifics - anyone got anything fingered out here? I seem to recall that meeting a good outsider somehow figured into it. At any rate, I think the intention was that like a PrC, there is some DM-determined in-game mechanic for becoming exalted. Originally posted by PenderGrass Second Question - there is a Feat, Righteous Rage, that allows for the rager to have a certain amount of 'clarity of mind' whilst raging - the rager is able to perform and do things that normally would not be allowed - now question is, one of the things listed is that the rager can "now distinguish friend from foe"??? This is for good frenzied berserkers, not barbarians.