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Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 02:54 PM	Drithin Depthspawn: Half-Fiend/Hobgoblin 4th level Fighter Challenge Rating: 5 [4 fighter level, 1 fiendish template] Alignment: Lawful Evil Strength: 19 (Base 15, +4 half-fiend) Dexterity: 20 (Base 14, +2 racial, +4 half-fiend) Constitution: 17 (Base 13, +2 racial, +2 half-fiend) Intelligence: 16 (Base 12, +4 half-fiend) Wisdom: 10 (Base 10) Charisma: 11 (Base 8, +2 half-fiend, +1 level) Languages: Goblin, Common, Elven, Orc, Giant Hit Dice: 4d10 [fighter] + 12 [Con] Hit Points: 32 Initiative Modifier: +5 (Dex) Speed: 30 ft., fly 30 ft (average) Armor Class: 24 [+5 Dex, +1 natural from half-fiend, +5 armor from Mithral Breastplate, +2 from heavy shield, +1 bracers], Touch 15, Flat-Footed 19 Attacks: Masterwork kama +10 melee [+4 fighter, +4 Str, +1 Weapon Focus feat, +1 masterwork weapon] (1d6+4+2 [crit x2]) OR Dart thruster +9 ranged [+4 fighter, +5 Dex] (1d4 [19-20/x2] OR Claw +8 melee [+4 fighter, +4 Str] (1d6+3) and bite +3 melee [+4 fighter, +4 Str, -5 secondary attack] (1d4+1) Face/Reach: 5 ft. x 5 ft./5 ft. Saving Throws: Fortitude +7 [+4 fighter, +3 Con] Reflex +6 [+1 fighter, +5 Dex] Will +1 [+1 fighter, +0 Wis] Skills [40 fighter]: Climb +11 [+7 fighter, +4 Str], Craft (poisonmaking) +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Int], Intimidate +7 [+7 fighter, +0 Cha], Hide +7 [+2 fighter, +5 Dex], Jump +11 [+7 fighter, +4 Str], Knowledge (religion) +5 [+2 fighter, +3 Int], Move Silently +9 [+5 Dex, +4 racial], Swim +8 [+4 fighter, +4 Str] Feats [2 for character levels, 3 from fighter]: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (kama), Weapon Focus (kama), Combat Expertise {explained below}, Flensing Strike {explained below}, Weapon Specialization (kama). Special Attacks/Qualities: - Darkvision 60 ft. - Immune to Poison - Smite Good (Su) -- Once per day Drithin can make a normal attack and do +HD damage against a good foe. - Spell Resistance 14 - Natural weapons count as 'magic' for overcoming another creature's damage reduction. - Damage Reduction 5/magic. - Acid, Cold, Electricity, & Fire Resistance 10 - Spell-like Abilities: 3/day - darkness, 1/day - desecrate - Flensing Strike: As a full round attack, he can make a single attack roll with a kama. If it hits, his opponent takes the normal damage and is wracked with pain for 1 minute, recieving a -4 penalty on attacks, saves, and checks for 1 minute unless he/she makes a Fort Save (DC = 10 + 1/2 Drithin's character level + Wis Mod). This ability may only be used on creatures that feel pain and are subject to critical hits. - Combat Expertise: When Drithin makes an Attack action or a Full Attack action, he may take -X to hit and get +X to your AC until his next action. X has a maximum of his base attack bonus, to a maximum of 5. Important Equipment: The bonuses for these items are included in the statistics above. [5,400 gp for 9th ECL character] masterwork kama [302 gp], mithral breastplate [4,200 gp], dart thruster [40 gp], Dart x 40 [20 gp], bracers of armor +1 [500 gp]
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 02:54 PM	I just want to make sure I haven't miscalcutated Skill points, challenge rating, etc.
Seen 12-14-05, 02:58 PM	[4 fighter level, 2 fiendish template] Hit Dice: 3d10 [fighter] + 9 [Con] Either he has 4 hit dice, or he's actually level 3. Skills [45 ranger]: I'll just assume you meant fighter? I really dont know much about half-fiends though, so I can't really help past that.
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 03:00 PM	Either he has 4 hit dice, or he's actually level 3. I'll just assume you meant fighter? I really dont know much about half-fiends though, so I can't really help past that. Corrected. Thank you anyway!
Seen 12-14-05, 03:06 PM	actually I saw one more thing Skills [45 fighter]: Climb +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Str], Craft (poisonmaking) +9 [+7 fighter, +2 Int], Intimidate +7 [+7 fighter, +0 Cha], Jump +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Str], Move Silently +7 [+3 Dex, +4 racial], Swim +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Str] Adding up the "+7 Fighter"s, I only count 35 there, and you've got 45 written in the top. Now, I'm not sure what half-fiend does for skills (besides the Int bonus), but a level 4 fighter should have 2+Intx7 skill points, meaning only 28 for your guy :/
Lazzmaniandevil 12-14-05, 03:14 PM	Challenge Rating: 6 [4 fighter level, 2 fiendish template] The half-fiend template says that the challenge Rating is "as base creature +1" for creatures with 4 HD or less, so it should be CR5. Skills [45 fighter]: Climb +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Str], Craft (poisonmaking) +9 [+7 fighter, +2 Int], Intimidate +7 [+7 fighter, +0 Cha], Jump +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Str], Move Silently +7 [+3 Dex, +4 racial], Swim +10 [+7 fighter, +3 Str] The half-fiend template says that the half-fiend gains outsider skill points only for its racial Hit Dice. Since the hobgoblin doesn't have any racial HD, it only gains class levels skills, so (level +3) X (2 + int bonus) = 7 X 4 = 28.
Dark Stryke 12-14-05, 03:19 PM	I'm pretty sure that under "skills" for half fiends, it states that he gains skill points as an outsider (8+ int mod/level). But I'm not sure if it's only for racial hit dice, or if class levels recieve this bonus, too. Also, make sure he has the right amount of gold for character of hjis effective character level (not CR). So, add the hit dice, level adjustment for goblin, and the level adjustment for half-fiend. I think that gives you a 9th level character. His CR is indeed 6, but his ECL is nine. One last thing. Those darts have to be masterwork and +1 already before they can have "exit wounds" added to them. So they all count as +2 weapons. I'm not sure on the prices of ammo, though. I don't have the books on me right now, so I can't be positive about certain things. That's all I could see. Cool villian.
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 04:50 PM	Corrected! I'm going to be posting this and some higher level versions of him in a bit, so I'm making sure this is all right.
JayceMD 12-14-05, 04:58 PM	Attacks: Masterwork kama +9 melee [+4 fighter, +3 Str, +1 Weapon Focus feat, +1 masterwork weapon] (1d6+3+2 [crit x2]) OR +2 paralyzing dart thruster +9 ranged [+4 fighter, +3 Dex, +2 masterwork weapon] (1d4 [19-20/x2] OR Claw +7 melee [+4 fighter, +3 Str] (1d6+3) and bite +2 melee [+4 fighter, +3 Str, -5 secondary attack] (1d4+3) Damage on the dart should be 1d4+2 (since it's a +2 weapon) Damage on the bite should be 1d4+1 (secondary weapons use 1/2 Str. bonus)
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 05:03 PM	Damage on the dart should be 1d4+2 (since it's a +2 weapon) Damage on the bite should be 1d4+1 (secondary weapons use 1/2 Str. bonus) Also corrected!
Pellanor 12-14-05, 05:14 PM	NPCs with levels in PC classes (fighter, ranger, etc...) use the Elite Array by Defalut (15,14,13,12,10,8). NPCs with NPC levels (warrior, adept, etc...) us the non-elite array (13,12,11,10,9,8). NPCs with no class levels us the standard array (11,11,11,10,10,10). That's taken into account with the higher CR of PC classes. And it looks like you've got more wealth for your NPC then you should have. A 4th level NPC should have 3,300 GP worth of gear. Of course you're free to change this, as I know I have for a number of my NPCs, but I just figured I'd mention it.
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 05:26 PM	I did change it because someone earlier told me that it was too little gold. Is the gold cap for a character based on his ECL or is actual level?
Pellanor 12-14-05, 05:40 PM	Okay, I've gone through and made a few updates for you, including updating it to my prefered NPC format (I find it keeps things compact and easy to read) Things that have ben updated: - Stats upgraded to Elite Array - Ioun Stone bonus to attack rolls addsd - Smite Good damage increased fro +3 to +4 (It's +1 per HD) enjoy :D Drithin Depthspawn - Half-Fiend Hobgoblin, Fighter(4) - CR 5 HP 10+3d10+(Con(4)*4=16)= 42(average); Init +4; Speed 30', Fly 30'(Average) AC 22 (10 + 1[natural] + 4[dex] + 5[armor] + 2[shield]); tac 15; ffac 17 BAB/G: +4/+9 Attack: - Kama, +12 melee(1d6+7, 20 x2) and Bite, +5 melee(1d4+2, 20 x2) - Dart, +11 ranged(1d4+2, 19-20 x2) and Bite, +5 melee(1d4+2, 20 x2) - I wasn't sure what this was, so it may not be right - Claw, +10/+10 melee(1d6+5, 20 x2) and Bite, +5 melee(1d4+2, 20 x2) F/R/W: 4/2/2 + 4/4/0 + 1 = +9/+7/+3 Stats: - Str 20(+5) (15[base] + 4[race] + 1[lvl]) - Dex 19(+4) (13[base] + 6[race]) - Con 18(+4) (14[base] + 4[race]) - Int 16(+3) (12[base] + 4[race]) - Wis 10(+0) (10[base]) - Cha 10(+0) (8[base] + 2[race]) Skills: (35 points | ranks + ability + misc = total) - Climb 7 + 5 + 1 = +13 - Craft (poisonmaking) 7 + 3 + 1 = +11 - Intimidate 7 + 0 + 1 = +8 - Jump 7 + 5 + 1 = +13 - Move Silently 3.5 + 4 + 5 = +12 Feats: - 1 Exotic Weapon Proficiency (kama) - 1b Weapon Focus (kama) - 2b Combat Expertise - 3 Flensing Strike - 4b Weapon Specialization (kama) Special: - Darkvision 60 ft. - Immune to Poison - Smite Good (Su) -- Once per day he can make a normal attack and do +4 damage against a good foe. - Spell Resistance 14 - Natural weapons count as 'magic' for overcoming another creature's damage reduction. - Damage Reduction 5/magic. - Acid, Cold, Electricity, & Fire Resistance 10 - Spell-like Abilities: 3/day - darkness, 1/day - desecrate - Flensing Strike: As a full round attack, he can make a single attack roll with a kama. If it hits, his opponent takes the normal damage and is wracked with pain for 1 minute, recieving a -4 penalty on attacks, saves, and checks for 1 minute unless he/she makes a Fort Save (DC = 10 + 1/2 Drithin's character level + Wis Mod). This ability may only be used on creatures that feel pain and are subject to critical hits. - Combat Expertise: When you make an Attack action or a Full Attack action, you may take -X to hit and get +X to your AC until your next action. X can be a maximum of your base attack bonus, to a maximum of 5. Gear: - masterwork kama [302 gp] - mithral breastplate [4,200 gp] - +2 paralyzing dart thruster [8500 gp] - Dart x 40 [20 gp] - Ioun Stone - Pale Green Prism [10,000 gp] On the note of gold: 4th level NPC gear: 3,300 gp. 5th level (CR 5) NPC gear: 4,300 gp. 9th level (ECL 9) NPC gear: 12,000 gp A random CR 5 treasure: 1,600 gp. Personally I would go with the CR 5 (4,300 gp) gear. Of course if his expensive stuff his cursed or whatever, then feel free to give him much more.
Nom 12-14-05, 06:24 PM	Though from mechanics and style perspective, this character seems perfect to be a Mnk2/Ftr2 (in that order). You've got a dedicated monk weapon with a specialist feat and an LE character. Mechanically, sacrificing 2 levels of Ftr for 2 levels of monk loses 3 hp and 1 BAB for +2 to all saves, Evasion, Monk Improved Unarmed Strike, two bonus feats (Improved Grapple and Combat Reflexes), 10 extra skill points and some other abilities that can't be used in armour. In either case, note that you can't fly if your load exceeds light. I don't think this is currently a problem, but be aware if it. I'd also agree with Pellanor about equipment. 20,000+ gp is way too much treasure for a CR 5 opponent. Defeating just this guy would grant a group of 4 PCs over half of the level 5 treasure allotment. Level 4 is 5,400 gp. Level 5 is 9,000 gp. This guy is worth about 5,500 gp per character.
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 07:30 PM	There we go! How does that look?
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 07:46 PM	Hold on, modifying to Elite arrays, and adjusting accordingly...
Gworraent 12-14-05, 07:55 PM	those are some high stats dude
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 07:57 PM	It comes from using the elite scores, and then adding in the half-fiend's bonuses. Edit: And I am no 'dude'. I really dislike it when guys (and girls) refer to me by that... :mad:
Devin, The Rogue Princess 12-14-05, 08:13 PM	Am I to assume that it is correct now? Can I go on to make his 8th, 12th, 16th, and 20th level versions now?