assassin (death attack change) [Archive] - Wizards Community

assassin (death attack change) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
pippin_nl
05-25-07, 02:28 PM Is it reasonable to remove the standard death attack of an assassin and grant the assassin the following special attack to make the class a better martial one:

1) 1/round (instead of one normal attack) if the attack hits the victim must make a successful fortitude save DC 10 + assassin level or suffer 1d6 (per 3 assassin levels) constitution damage

2) above but instead of a full round attack

3) as 1) but only after a successful sneak attack

4) as 1) but only in case of a critical hit
Drew1369r
05-25-07, 02:38 PM I wouldn't accept it... it negates the whole concept of death by one strike
DaidojiTaidoru
05-25-07, 02:45 PM I wouldn't accept it... it negates the whole concept of death by one strike

Which is really the only point of taking levels in Assassin.

(Okay. I'm sure there are other good things as well, I just can't think of them.)
Vharuck
05-25-07, 02:54 PM Yeah, assassins who find themselves in a melee fight have already failed.
DreadArchon
05-25-07, 05:18 PM (Okay. I'm sure there are other good things as well, I just can't think of them.)
The ability to cast Arcane spells without preparation using Int while wearing (light) armor (and with faster spell level progression than a bard)? Less useful when splatbooks are allowed, but even then it's nice for many builds, especially since (1) it's relatively easy to qualify for and (2) it grants Sneak Attack, unlike Beguiler and Duskblade.

If nothing else, I'd use it for Dragon Disciple builds on occaison.
hovnarr
05-25-07, 07:45 PM I usually make my assassins monks. Stunning Fist goes nicely with sneak attack. Throwing a flurry of poisoned shurikens while invisible is pretty neat too.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
pippin_nl 05-25-07, 02:28 PM	Is it reasonable to remove the standard death attack of an assassin and grant the assassin the following special attack to make the class a better martial one: 1) 1/round (instead of one normal attack) if the attack hits the victim must make a successful fortitude save DC 10 + assassin level or suffer 1d6 (per 3 assassin levels) constitution damage 2) above but instead of a full round attack 3) as 1) but only after a successful sneak attack 4) as 1) but only in case of a critical hit
Drew1369r 05-25-07, 02:38 PM	I wouldn't accept it... it negates the whole concept of death by one strike
DaidojiTaidoru 05-25-07, 02:45 PM	I wouldn't accept it... it negates the whole concept of death by one strike Which is really the only point of taking levels in Assassin. (Okay. I'm sure there are other good things as well, I just can't think of them.)
Vharuck 05-25-07, 02:54 PM	Yeah, assassins who find themselves in a melee fight have already failed.
DreadArchon 05-25-07, 05:18 PM	(Okay. I'm sure there are other good things as well, I just can't think of them.) The ability to cast Arcane spells without preparation using Int while wearing (light) armor (and with faster spell level progression than a bard)? Less useful when splatbooks are allowed, but even then it's nice for many builds, especially since (1) it's relatively easy to qualify for and (2) it grants Sneak Attack, unlike Beguiler and Duskblade. If nothing else, I'd use it for Dragon Disciple builds on occaison.
hovnarr 05-25-07, 07:45 PM	I usually make my assassins monks. Stunning Fist goes nicely with sneak attack. Throwing a flurry of poisoned shurikens while invisible is pretty neat too.