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Violet Typhoon

07-06-06, 11:56 PM
First of all, if you are in Alex's game at Elon University in NC, please do not read this thread, as it will ruin the story!!!

Okay, now that that's over with, I'd like some opinions from the wise inhabitants of the boards about an NPC I'm designing. He is an incubus (male succubus) with the half-celestial template (it's complicated) and several class levels.

My question is what should be considered an "unassociated class" for a succubus. This individual has trained as an expert swordsman, and has several levels of fighter and at least one level of blackguard. The half-celestial template, some ability adjustments from HD, and the fact that I rolled his stats like a PC (he's an important antagonist), means that his physical stats are all much higher than an ordinary succubus. I was wondering whether combat-oriented classes should be considered non-associated (therefore increasing CR by 1 per two levels) for him, or whether the differences from the standard succubus would make it appropriate for advancement.

I can post more specific stats if that would be helpful, but I won't now in the interest of brevity. I am curious what you think are associated/non-associated classes for succubi, and what would be appropriate for my advanced version. Thanks for any opinions you can provide!
Comus

07-07-06, 12:19 AM
Given how a succubus works, I'd say that rogue, bard, sorc, warlock... they'd be the ones that'd be associated. They aren't straight-up fighters, so a melee class wouldn't be one.