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Post/Author/DateTime Post
Monchothehorse
03-09-08, 11:33 PM Ok, so we have a group of friends that gets together to play Dnd at my friends house. We all get along well and the campaigns usually are alot of fun except for one proplem. The guy who Dm's most of the times older brother plays with us but does not respect him at all. He won't pay attention during campaigns and just tells the Dm (his younger brother) how boring and sucky his campaigns are and will just get up and leave and watch tv which ruins it for everyone else, especially the people who have to drive all the way out to his house. Even when he does play he just goofs off and drives the dm insane (even when it isn't his brother) and distracts everyone. What do I do?
Lord_Varos
03-09-08, 11:40 PM The standard, boiler-plate response we give out here is this:

Talk to all parties involved. That means the players, the DM, and, yes, even the older brother. Ask how they feel about the situation. If the players and DM agree that his behavior has to stop, talk to the brother. Tell him that if he continues to act this way, he will not be invited to play any more. Disruptive players cannot continue being so.

If you're the only one with a problem with it (which I doubt, considering the circumstances), then maybe just inform the DM that you really don't like that behavior and that you don't want it to happen any more. You guys will get a handle on things somehow.

In the end, you may just have to give the brother the boot and/or start playing somewhere else.
Cuindless
03-10-08, 12:29 AM The other boiler plate response is "Invite the brother here to give his side of the story".

HA! Beat you to it, didn't I Daniel?
Clem-Da-Squig
03-10-08, 01:00 AM I thought it was "Steel folding chair of awesomeness"?
Dash Branaghan
03-10-08, 05:58 AM Well, aside from the advice given, if the older brother doesn't like playing, then why not ask him why he bothers? He complains, he walks away...so why does he play in the first place?

Alternatively, I would always run with the "Put up or shut up" to the older brother. He thinks he can do better, lets see him do it.
Kouk
03-10-08, 06:04 AM I thought it was "Steel folding chair of awesomeness"?

I was going to say, "Thow a book at him" but that works too I guess.

Disinvite the older brother, and host the games at a different location. Maybe volunteer your own house or something.
geekling
03-10-08, 06:26 AM When he starts going on about disruptive non-game stuff or complaining about the game.

"Steve, stop being a jerkwad.
I didn't drive all the way out here to watch you go on like a 5 year old. I came here to play this game with <insert name of the DM here>. I don't give a flying :censored: about how much you hate it.
If you don't like this game, don't bother playing and go away, or shut your moaning.
Now, can we get back to the game?"

Pick up dice and <insert tiny-recap here>
pmurray@bigpond.com
03-10-08, 08:22 AM What do I do?
Find another house. Kick the older brother. If you can't find another house, approach the parents of the older brother about him disrupting your games.
kelvinaw273
03-10-08, 10:10 AM I imagine that there is some reason this older brother has to be involved, correct? Parents have said he has to have an open invitation to join if he wants or some such. Best thing to do is prepare the following response(s) with all the other players and back one another up:

"Do you mind? The rest of us like this game."

"Nobody is making you play."

"If you don't like it that much, leave. The rest of us do, so do us the courtesy of shutting up, please."

You don't have to be rude, just be firm, polite, and mature. Try to brush his disruption aside and carry on as normal with as much dignity as you can. This may not get you immediate results - I would expect either outright 'I'm bigger than you' threats or sulky passive-aggressive behaviour - but in the long run (after a few sessions) he'll either stop or stop playing.
Monchothehorse
03-10-08, 04:32 PM [QUOTE=kelvinaw273;15303593]I imagine that there is some reason this older brother has to be involved, correct? Parents have said he has to have an open invitation to join if he wants or some such.

Yeah thats pretty much it, one time someone complaigned and we were banned from it for 6 months...
But anyway I just don't want to be a jerk cause he's sort of my friend but if it continues after I try some of those suggestions we'll just have to move the location and not invite him I guess.
Thankyou:)
Theron20
03-12-08, 06:43 PM Thanks for the in put guys. The big problem is that he's extreamly imature, and might bring harm to the equiptment. (btw I'm the DM)
talsharien
03-16-08, 06:35 PM This needs to be sorted now. I am a gm and my older brother is in his late thirties and has been playing in my campaigns for the best part of fifteen years. Although he is not as disruptive as your brother he still behaves like a class a fool during the session. Unfortunately things can become competitive because older brothers often do not like their kid brothers doing or having something that they do not.

Take my advice, stop him from playing, sort him out or face years of roleplaying family arguements:P
kelvinaw273
03-17-08, 10:56 AM Yeah thats pretty much it, one time someone complaigned and we were banned from it for 6 months...
But anyway I just don't want to be a jerk cause he's sort of my friend but if it continues after I try some of those suggestions we'll just have to move the location and not invite him I guess.
Thankyou:)

Thanks for the in put guys. The big problem is that he's extreamly imature, and might bring harm to the equiptment. (btw I'm the DM)

Sounds like you also need to have a long talk with your parents explaining that he's spoiling the game for everyone else, otherwise you may find that you are lumbered with taking him with you even if you change venue. You can guarantee that if you don't tell them that you are playing elsewhere and simply move and don't invite him he's likely to tell them out of spite - that or have your answers ready for when he does this.

Or ... if you are at somebody else's house and somebody else's parents see him acting up, let THEM throw him out and tell your parents. Hell if any of your players were my kids, I'd DM for you!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Monchothehorse 03-09-08, 11:33 PM	Ok, so we have a group of friends that gets together to play Dnd at my friends house. We all get along well and the campaigns usually are alot of fun except for one proplem. The guy who Dm's most of the times older brother plays with us but does not respect him at all. He won't pay attention during campaigns and just tells the Dm (his younger brother) how boring and sucky his campaigns are and will just get up and leave and watch tv which ruins it for everyone else, especially the people who have to drive all the way out to his house. Even when he does play he just goofs off and drives the dm insane (even when it isn't his brother) and distracts everyone. What do I do?
Lord_Varos 03-09-08, 11:40 PM	The standard, boiler-plate response we give out here is this: Talk to all parties involved. That means the players, the DM, and, yes, even the older brother. Ask how they feel about the situation. If the players and DM agree that his behavior has to stop, talk to the brother. Tell him that if he continues to act this way, he will not be invited to play any more. Disruptive players cannot continue being so. If you're the only one with a problem with it (which I doubt, considering the circumstances), then maybe just inform the DM that you really don't like that behavior and that you don't want it to happen any more. You guys will get a handle on things somehow. In the end, you may just have to give the brother the boot and/or start playing somewhere else.
Cuindless 03-10-08, 12:29 AM	The other boiler plate response is "Invite the brother here to give his side of the story". HA! Beat you to it, didn't I Daniel?
Clem-Da-Squig 03-10-08, 01:00 AM	I thought it was "Steel folding chair of awesomeness"?
Dash Branaghan 03-10-08, 05:58 AM	Well, aside from the advice given, if the older brother doesn't like playing, then why not ask him why he bothers? He complains, he walks away...so why does he play in the first place? Alternatively, I would always run with the "Put up or shut up" to the older brother. He thinks he can do better, lets see him do it.
Kouk 03-10-08, 06:04 AM	I thought it was "Steel folding chair of awesomeness"? I was going to say, "Thow a book at him" but that works too I guess. Disinvite the older brother, and host the games at a different location. Maybe volunteer your own house or something.
geekling 03-10-08, 06:26 AM	When he starts going on about disruptive non-game stuff or complaining about the game. "Steve, stop being a jerkwad. I didn't drive all the way out here to watch you go on like a 5 year old. I came here to play this game with <insert name of the DM here>. I don't give a flying :censored: about how much you hate it. If you don't like this game, don't bother playing and go away, or shut your moaning. Now, can we get back to the game?" Pick up dice and <insert tiny-recap here>
pmurray@bigpond.com 03-10-08, 08:22 AM	What do I do? Find another house. Kick the older brother. If you can't find another house, approach the parents of the older brother about him disrupting your games.
kelvinaw273 03-10-08, 10:10 AM	I imagine that there is some reason this older brother has to be involved, correct? Parents have said he has to have an open invitation to join if he wants or some such. Best thing to do is prepare the following response(s) with all the other players and back one another up: "Do you mind? The rest of us like this game." "Nobody is making you play." "If you don't like it that much, leave. The rest of us do, so do us the courtesy of shutting up, please." You don't have to be rude, just be firm, polite, and mature. Try to brush his disruption aside and carry on as normal with as much dignity as you can. This may not get you immediate results - I would expect either outright 'I'm bigger than you' threats or sulky passive-aggressive behaviour - but in the long run (after a few sessions) he'll either stop or stop playing.
Monchothehorse 03-10-08, 04:32 PM	[QUOTE=kelvinaw273;15303593]I imagine that there is some reason this older brother has to be involved, correct? Parents have said he has to have an open invitation to join if he wants or some such. Yeah thats pretty much it, one time someone complaigned and we were banned from it for 6 months... But anyway I just don't want to be a jerk cause he's sort of my friend but if it continues after I try some of those suggestions we'll just have to move the location and not invite him I guess. Thankyou:)
Theron20 03-12-08, 06:43 PM	Thanks for the in put guys. The big problem is that he's extreamly imature, and might bring harm to the equiptment. (btw I'm the DM)
talsharien 03-16-08, 06:35 PM	This needs to be sorted now. I am a gm and my older brother is in his late thirties and has been playing in my campaigns for the best part of fifteen years. Although he is not as disruptive as your brother he still behaves like a class a fool during the session. Unfortunately things can become competitive because older brothers often do not like their kid brothers doing or having something that they do not. Take my advice, stop him from playing, sort him out or face years of roleplaying family arguements:P
kelvinaw273 03-17-08, 10:56 AM	Yeah thats pretty much it, one time someone complaigned and we were banned from it for 6 months... But anyway I just don't want to be a jerk cause he's sort of my friend but if it continues after I try some of those suggestions we'll just have to move the location and not invite him I guess. Thankyou:) Thanks for the in put guys. The big problem is that he's extreamly imature, and might bring harm to the equiptment. (btw I'm the DM) Sounds like you also need to have a long talk with your parents explaining that he's spoiling the game for everyone else, otherwise you may find that you are lumbered with taking him with you even if you change venue. You can guarantee that if you don't tell them that you are playing elsewhere and simply move and don't invite him he's likely to tell them out of spite - that or have your answers ready for when he does this. Or ... if you are at somebody else's house and somebody else's parents see him acting up, let THEM throw him out and tell your parents. Hell if any of your players were my kids, I'd DM for you!